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It's time to move on, a bad news for all Rebels.
Nextbit Robin's cloud services are nomore. Means there is nothing except 32 gb onboard we're left with as there is no sdcard slot, no otg support and from now, no smart storage too. I don't know what to do with Robin now.
It seems like Robin has been dropped by all officially supported Roms. Even the 2012's Nexus 4 has got 8.1 Oreo and salt-on-wound (XDA reviews it). I think i should move on now if there will not be any Oreo Rom this Month.
How many Rebels still want Robin Alive?
I can't answer all your questions but here is answer to one of it.
Nextbit Robin's cloud services are nomore. Means there is nothing except 32 gb onboard we're left with as there is no sdcard slot, no otg support and from now, no smart storage too. I don't know what to do with Robin now.
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If you were reliant on cloud storage or that was what you wanted all along then you are in luck. Soon after Robin was released almost the whole industry enabled auto sync in their apps.
Google Photos, OneDrive, etc are the few popular to name. You have options, you just need to choose one you like and use it. You'll never miss the missing cloud part.
Actually there is crdroid android 8.1 for robin but it still getting worked on. firebird11 seems hard at work trying to make it stable so just have patience Android O will come.
@Mr bubbles
Talking about Android O. Omni and Lineage are also being worked on. Their threads are update with devs updating the status.
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Yes ik but i said crdroid cause u can download it rn. Look in crdroid replies. The only problem rn is it is not stable for daily use it seem but it also seems close to stable. Just so you know idk if u can download the others rn if so plz send me a link or where to download i would love to check them out.
You can also download Oreo builds of LineageOS right now in the LineageOS thread. I'd say that they're gonna be working much better than the crDroid builds since crDroid's just using LOS's kernel + trees, and javelinanddart pushes out new builds more frequently whenever he fixes something whereas crDroid's latest build is from March 6th and still has the broken sensors + H264 encoder.
backup to google services works well. I just hope the battery doesnt die.
I thought OTG was not possible with the Robin i.e. it lacks the hardware for it. Is my information wrong? Do you really have it working?
@witnit I too remember the same thing @Nextbit_Khang had said. It is a hardware requirement that wasn't there in Robin.
Nvm
Awesome!
1) Out of curiosity, what model and brand of OTG cable do you have?
2) Is crdroid the only ROM you've had success with, or were there others?
My memory failed me, sorry. It was my wifes last phone, not the robin that I had her using USB OTG with. I have a bunch of phones that I tinker with, my bad.
Sucks that USB OTG doesn't work though, I would have thought of that more as a software than hardware limitation. I dont even have a C OTG cable
I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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here is for the Mix 2, not Mix 2s. But the xiaomi.eu rom has all that you mention (full screen, face unlock), except based on oreo 8.1. Use the "weekly" version.
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here is for the Mix 2, not Mix 2s. But the xiaomi.eu rom has all that you mention (full screen, face unlock), except based on oreo 8.1. Use the "weekly" version.
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Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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Every ROM ever will grab your data, no matter if China or the US gets it. I can warmly recommend you the official global beta for MIUI 10, I don't like Xiaomi.eu at all. And btw: the Mix 2S will get MIUI with Android P this fall, so you can just wait until it releases officialy!
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Every ROM ever will grab your data, no matter if China or the US gets it. I can warmly recommend you the official global beta for MIUI 10, I don't like Xiaomi.eu at all. And btw: the Mix 2S will get MIUI with Android P this fall, so you can just wait until it releases officialy!
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Well, the thing is US gov doesn't need my data (I am merely a foreign nobady) but C gov wants and might utilize data from all its citiizens. This is not a topic needs to be elaborated here. But my question is, does MIUI global version collect data as its Chinese version sibling, and if so, to what extent?
And when you said Android P for Mix 2S this fall, you mean the Android P based MIUI 10, right? Because I read that the stock Android P developer preview version was only a one-time thing and Xiaomi won't provide stock ROM in the future. In general I don't dislike MIUI, it's a solid ROM, probably among the top 3 best ROMs I have ever used. I just have this concern that I mentioned.
And my other question is, if I don't choose the MIUI, is there any other ROM, which explore the feature of full screen of MIX 2S (and I'd like it to be Android Pie based)?
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Well, the thing is US gov doesn't need my data (I am merely a foreign nobady) but C gov wants and might utilize data from all its citiizens. This is not a topic needs to be elaborated here. But my question is, does MIUI global version collect data as its Chinese version sibling, and if so, to what extent?
And when you said Android P for Mix 2S this fall, you mean the Android P based MIUI 10, right? Because I read that the stock Android P developer preview version was only a one-time thing and Xiaomi won't provide stock ROM in the future. In general I don't dislike MIUI, it's a solid ROM, probably among the top 3 best ROMs I have ever used. I just have this concern that I mentioned.
And my other question is, if I don't choose the MIUI, is there any other ROM, which explore the feature of full screen of MIX 2S (and I'd like it to be Android Pie based)?
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Yes it will be MIUI-based and only MIUI ROMs have those gestures. And I think that the Global version collects little to no data, as there would be a huge public outcry if the Global version collected data and that would probably damage their international reputation a lot, which all chinese companies fear AND the chinese govt fear.
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I flashed my Xiaomi Mix 2S with Android P developer preview verison the second day after I purchased it, because I am a heavy user of Google apps and I like the clean stock Android ROM (used to own three Nexus phones). Now I am aware that Xiaomi won't provide stock Android Pie ROM, I guess I should starting looking for alternatives (which provide security patches constantly).
When I tried the MIUI Chinese version (I am living in China now), I actually liked its gesture (not the one in stock Android version) and full screen features. Stock Android P/Pie leaves a black strip at the bottom for gesture navigation which doesn't look as pretty as MIUI. And MIUI's gesture (slide from anywhere on the screen) is more convenient in my opinion. So I could change to Android-Pie-based MIUI (international version of course because I want to use Google) after Xiaomi releases it. But my biggest concern is, does the international version also collect and upload user's data like the Chinese version? I try to avoid those kind of apps as much as I can (I only install apps from Play Store) and always disable unnecessary permissions in the apps.
Or, is there any other ROMs (hopefully Android Pie based version would be published quickly) which is suitable for Mix 2S's full display?
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:laugh: there's no such thing as a rom or smart device that doesn't collect your data. Are you a spy or something, what data could you possibly have in your device that you have to keep safe? Do you also wear tinfoil hats and cover your phone's cameras with tape? :laugh:
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:laugh: there's no such thing as a rom or smart device that doesn't collect your data. Are you a spy or something, what data could you possibly have in your device that you have to keep safe? Do you also wear tinfoil hats and cover your phone's cameras with tape? :laugh:
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That's what I thought too?
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Sorry, at first Google didn't show Mix 2S sub-forum so I thought there wasn't one for that model. Now I actually see the correct sub-forum, I'll re-post it there.
And did you see my concert on MIUI international version? Do you know if there is any discussion about it? Thank you!
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I don't have an answer to your main question but I'm curious about your paranoia regarding the Chinese rom. I've been using that rom from day one and according to the Spy Monitor app no data is being sent to any Chinese servers. My Xiaomi Services Framework is connected to a server in Canada. Having said that I've disabled or uninstalled all the Chinese apps and I don't use a Xiaomi account at all. Phone is stock.
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I don't have an answer to your main question but I'm curious about your paranoia regarding the Chinese rom. I've been using that rom from day one and according to the Spy Monitor app no data is being sent to any Chinese servers. My Xiaomi Services Framework is connected to a server in Canada. Having said that I've disabled or uninstalled all the Chinese apps and I don't use a Xiaomi account at all. Phone is stock.
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Thank you for your info, it's exactly what I was asking for. And yeah it may be paranoia but I'd say China is not the least data collecting/abusing country. Let's say a file cloud app asks for the phone identity permission (and the phone number can't be annyonymous because burner phone is not allowed here), or a restaurant advisor app wants to read your calendar. It's more difficult to identify this kind of abusing for the ROM producer than the app developer, because the ROM indeed needs to collect and upload some data, and it's hard to tell the content of the data being sent.
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Thank you for your info, it's exactly what I was asking for. And yeah it may be paranoia but I'd say China is not the least data collecting/abusing country. Let's say a file cloud app asks for the phone identity permission (and the phone number can't be annyonymous because burner phone is not allowed here), or a restaurant advisor app wants to read your calendar. It's more difficult to identify this kind of abusing for the ROM producer than the app developer, because the ROM indeed needs to collect and upload some data, and it's hard to tell the content of the data being sent.
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Echoing previous posts, you're being overly paranoid. Miui allows you to choose every permission and also allows you to block internet access for all apps. As for what the rom developer uploads you're at their mercy but that' will always be the case if you want updates and security patches. Given the popularity of miui I've never heard of anything untoward hidden in the rom. To sum it up, you want a smartphone with the usability of a feature phone.
My phone history. Sony arc s lt18i. Remi note 3 kenzo. Remi note 5 pro whyred. Poco m3 citrus lime.
I have flashed phone from android 2 to A11.
I feel frustrating about A11 dynamic partition and vendor problem.
I flash custom aosp based rom and pass safety test.
Still, there are 2~3 bank or shop app not working.
And double tap to wake Ng, flicker screen issue.
Back to eu miui port.
Camera NG.
Too many useless apps.
If I use magisk model debloat method to remove apps.
I can't pass some bank and shop app.
I used to delete apps directly in lt18i phone.
Use root to delete app in kenzo phone.
Magisk hide in whyred.
Then in android 10 I need to remove magisk after delete unnecessary apps. To pass some apps test.
Now I have no choices.
I just use a java app to debloat delete apps.
But app is still there.
64 gb. System suck with 14 gb. Then with apps installed only 36 gb storage you can use.
I feel my body is not clean.
I'm sick.
Yeah that's my mind problem.
You would say. You already debloat to delete apps. You can't see apps icon in your app list.
But I know my space is got eaten.
Uh...
And still I can use camera and watch web tv.
Tbh if I want a perfect rom experience. I need to go back to A10.
In A11 custom aosp rom. They don't list double tap to wake Ng, flicker screen, bank still not pass while safetynet pass are bug.
Unfortunately I need to use eu miui port to use double tap and pass bank apps.
I don't understand why whyred roms can use these bank app but citrus can't.
Vendor problem? Idk.
If you want to flash poco m3?
Plz think more about it then do it.
I still don't know how to use 48mp and macro camera to shot in eu miui.
If you flash it.
Your macro and 48mp may be gone.
Just install bsg Gcam in stock miui system.
Then do nothing.
That what I recommend. Today is 20210702. Hope it will be better
I thought there would be much more activity around this lime phone but it looks like another dud buy for me. I was hoping it would make it onto the official lineageos list but at this rate chances look slim. When I bought it it made sense as the hardware was pretty common and there was multiple phones with the same hardware so could be a popular device. Im running an unoficial version of lineageos and although it works there are a number of issues still.
It seems like it just hasnt been popular with the devs. Maybe someone will pick it up later but we can only hope.
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I thought there would be much more activity around this lime phone but it looks like another dud buy for me. I was hoping it would make it onto the official lineageos list but at this rate chances look slim. When I bought it it made sense as the hardware was pretty common and there was multiple phones with the same hardware so could be a popular device. Im running an unoficial version of lineageos and although it works there are a number of issues still.
It seems like it just hasnt been popular with the devs. Maybe someone will pick it up later but we can only hope.
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The android limitation when google introduced Android 10 makes it a bit harder for a dev to develop
also the android phone release too fast but the source code is released after a long time.
I've Lenovo A6000 plus back in the day with custom ROM up to Android 10
GrapheneOSThe private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility. Developed as a non-profit open source project.
website : https://grapheneos.org/
WebUSB-based Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/web
CMD Line Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/cli
Releases : https://grapheneos.org/releases#raven-stable
This is listed as "Experimental"...
Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
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Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
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yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
Good to hear about... will be watching! cheers
I basically bought my P6P for this, so I'm extremely happy development is moving forward! Really hoping that, when a stable version is out, it will be possible to use the phone "normally" with it. Keep it up, Graphene team!
I'm with @Alex-Absolute I purchased my P6 just for GrapheneOS support, coming from a string of OnePlus devices. Though I am going to wait until it's listed as stable to switch, I'm excited they have a working build going!
I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
roirraW edor ehT said:
I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
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Amazing, thanks for the tip!
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yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
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I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
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Amazing, thanks for the tip!
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You're welcome, I'm using the free version - it's been around for a very long time on Windows, and I'm using the Android app which appears to more or less sync with the Windows version through Dropbox, if you have or create an account with Dropbox. It doesn't work perfectly for me, but I at least get notifications on my phone about the same changes in websites that the Windows program lets me know about - so I at least know that I should get on the computer and look to see what's new.
Sorry to anyone for the OT - I have lots of Android-related sites set to give me notifications of changes through this program.
The non-free version is a little pricey for my needs.
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Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
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I will post some screens later this evening...
I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
AndroidAddict420 said:
I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
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I agree. I've been using it off and on for 18 months on different pixels. but just good to be cautious, as always...
GrapheneOS just tweeted a few hours ago, the next release will be Stable for the 6 series (most likely this week)
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Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page
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What I read about that is that its not experimental in the "unstable" sense, its that they haven't fully implemented the security enhancements.
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I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
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Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
The.Jericho.Initiative said:
Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
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Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
Flippy125 said:
Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
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Despite the hassle and increased expense, perhaps one of those Carplay AI boxes like Apple Pi might be the necessary workaround?
I'm very interested in this OS, but I too rely on carplay/auto as a general rule while driving. If I have to outsource my maps and music to an external box in order to have more comprehensive device security, that might just be the way it has to be.
Flippy125 said:
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
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Thank you for reporting. As curious as I am about this OS, this rules this out for me too. Been using AA for almost four years now and I'm hooked.
I want privacy, but I cannot live without syncing all my stuff together. Is this OS for me?
Hi,
Google disabled the HDMI alt mode in the bootloader/kernel on the Google Pixel 6 Pro, which means that you cannot share your device screen by mirroring to an external screen using HDMI. You cannot either use the built in desktop mode in Android and use the Samsung DEX like desktop experience.
How can this be solved?
1) Is it possible to unlock the bootloader / root the phone, and change the kernel to allow desktop mode / HDMI out from the phone?
2) Is it possible to unlock HDMI out by flashing a custom ROM, such as Lineage OS?
3) Is it possible to force the Google Pixel to use the desktop mode even without HDMI, and use the desktop mode by sharing the screen to a Chromecast?
4) Is it possible to use a Displaylink external GPU to not only mirror, but also force the Pixel to start desktop mode and share this through Displaylink to an external display? (Displaylink disables Netflix etc)
5) I also tried Sentio Desktop / Taskbar, but it wouldn't allow me to open several windows in freeform mode. Only one at a time, and the application would never by default open in freeform mode by using the launcher, they had to be manually converted to freeform. Sentio Desktop could also not be open in the background while a freeform application was open in the foreground, which sorta makes it useless.
X) i tried this command through adb to force the phone into desktop mode, but it wouldn't work. Anyone tried it? adb shell am start -n “com.android.launcher3/com.android.launcher3.SecondaryDisplayLauncher”
I understand that we can share and mirror the screen to an external screen by using Chromecast, but this requires it to be setup to Wifi, and doesn't really work that good on a hotel. It is also possible to mirror the screen with a Displaylink adapter, but this disables any streaming services to the external tv, and does not allow desktop mode.
I would think that some of you awesome developers have looked into this either on the Google Pixel 6, or the 4 or the 5, which all have hardware support for HDMI out.
Thanks!
This video shows a Google Pixel 4 running a desktop mode Interface through a custom rom. Should be possible with the Google Pixel 6 right?
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The extended desktop requires Android OS changes to handle mouse and launching applications to different displays.
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These changes are available to phone manufacturers who would like to make their device a productivity one. As some products start to appear in the market, then we can hope the interest will increase... We've just been ready early.
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As far as I am aware, Android natively only does one device in clone at a max resolution of 1080p.
There's a presenter mode on some applications like PowerPoint to display something different without user interaction possible on that external display as there's no way with stock Android to handle mouse across displays or select which screen the app should be launched on.
We've done it to show it's possible, creating a specific ROM for that. The OS can be modified to do extended desktop with mouse support.
The Android device needs to support being a USB host (USB On The Go).
DisplayLink DL-1x5, DL-3000, DL-5000 and DL-6900 series all work.
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There is also option
7) create a feedback form to Google / talk to a Google Rep, asking them if they are aware of this "issue" and ask them to fix it
It's a shame that Tensor lost a lot of basic abilities (just think about the people that have problems with DACs or hearing aid tools). Hopefully Google can bring these features back with future software updates, but of course they won't if people don't directly tell them "We want this, go fix it!".
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There is also option
7) create a feedback form to Google / talk to a Google Rep, asking them if they are aware of this "issue" and ask them to fix it
It's a shame that Tensor lost a lot of basic abilities (just think about the people that have problems with DACs or hearing aid tools). Hopefully Google can bring these features back with future software updates, but of course they won't if people don't directly tell them "We want this, go fix it!".
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Yeah, that's an option. I can definitely look into that. It's just that I sorta don't expect them to do anything about it. (Sadly)
Google have purposely disabled this feature, so they must have a reason for it. I'm hoping it's because they want the desktop mode to be perfect before it's released, so that noone can say that Samsung did it better. Some people believe it is because they want everyone to buy a Chromecast. (Already have 2 and it doesn't help me, so I'm hoping that's not it.)
I don't know, but when a company manually disables a feature which is by default enabled, then I believe hacking the **** out of the device, and enabling it yourself is the only option.
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Yeah, that's an option. I can definitely look into that. It's just that I sorta don't expect them to do anything about it. (Sadly)
Google have purposely disabled this feature, so they must have a reason for it. I'm hoping it's because they want the desktop mode to be perfect before it's released, so that noone can say that Samsung did it better. Some people believe it is because they want everyone to buy a Chromecast. (Already have 2 and it doesn't help me, so I'm hoping that's not it.)
I don't know, but when a company manually disables a feature which is by default enabled, then I believe hacking the **** out of the device, and enabling it yourself is the only option.
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Pixels have never had support for HDMI out (not talking about modifications). They support DisplayLink using a $200 Dock (Google support documentation verifies this for previous pixels).
Sure make your voice heard. I'm all for that. But be realistic. 99% of the featureset is locked 18 months before release of the product. If they didn't have a huge stake in Chromecast, I think things might be different.
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4) Is it possible to use a Displaylink external GPU to not only mirror, but also force the Pixel to start desktop mode and share this through Displaylink to an external display? (Displaylink disables Netflix etc)
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Well no, because display link uses non-public protocols and has no open source implementation, however, Linux supports GUD (generic USB display) for which you can use something like a $5 raspberry pi zero as the adapter. I doubt that GUD is compiled into the p6p's kernel, but it would be easy to add.
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Well no, because display link uses non-public protocols and has no open source implementation, however, Linux supports GUD (generic USB display) for which you can use something like a $5 raspberry pi zero as the adapter. I doubt that GUD is compiled into the p6p's kernel, but it would be easy to add.
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That sounds very interesting, and actually sounds like an option that may work! I would love to give that a try. Just need one of our kernel developers to add the code.
The Generic USB Display Driver Taking Shape For Linux 5.9~5.10 - Phoronix
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Generic USB Display driver
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Generic-USB-Display Interesting news. If I understand this correctly, this could potentially enable external displays for convergence even for phones without display out on USB and should be more m...
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Pixel 6 screen expanding (not mirroring). HDMI Alt Mode - Google Pixel Community
HDMI Alt Mode is unlikely to happen as it's a very exotic (and not officially supported by the USB-C spec). DisplayPort Alt Mode (which is used by nearly ALL the USB-C to HDMI cables) on the other hand, should be possible as long as the USB-C controller can receive video signal from the SoC.
DisplayLink kinda goes around this, and although the available documentation is quite limited, my main guess would be that it employs something similar to the aforementioned GUD drivers, providing display out purely over USB protocol (instead of switching the USB-C port into alt modes).
fonix232 said:
HDMI Alt Mode is unlikely to happen as it's a very exotic (and not officially supported by the USB-C spec). DisplayPort Alt Mode (which is used by nearly ALL the USB-C to HDMI cables) on the other hand, should be possible as long as the USB-C controller can receive video signal from the SoC.
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Thanks for this response. I think this is how it works on all of the Samsung phones. When I still had my S21U, I just used a USB-C to HDMI adapter and could connect my phone to any display - it was great!
Now, of course, I understand the desire for Google to follow Apple's decisions and force their users to grab a Chromecast, however, the Chromecast just doesn't work as well for me when compared to wired connections. I'm hoping that they allow for this in the future as the current audio/video desync is pretty rough when I'm streaming content to my Chromecast =/.
NippleSauce said:
Thanks for this response. I think this is how it works on all of the Samsung phones. When I still had my S21U, I just used a USB-C to HDMI adapter and could connect my phone to any display - it was great!
Now, of course, I understand the desire for Google to follow Apple's decisions and force their users to grab a Chromecast, however, the Chromecast just doesn't work as well for me when compared to wired connections. I'm hoping that they allow for this in the future as the current audio/video desync is pretty rough when I'm streaming content to my Chromecast =/.
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That's the funny thing here - anyone can implement AirPlay, there's even software that allows using Chromecast devices as AirPlay targets! Apple is really cool about it, and I'm surprised no Android app implements it as of now.
Google is really stuck on their ChromeCast ecosystem, which, to be frank, works quite well for most purposes - the app deep linking it achieves with e.g. YouTube is pretty dope. But Google shouldn't be ignoring the other protocols that work better for certain scenarios. It's like Google actively wants to reduce the experience on Pixel devices.
Does the google pixel 6 pro come bootloader unlocked?
bhale99 said:
Does the google pixel 6 pro come bootloader unlocked?
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This isn't the place for your question. Also, it takes literally two seconds to Google an answer.
But to help you out: no, the bootlaoder is NOT unlocked by default, but can be easily done (by enabling OEM Unlocking in Developer Options, then unlocking through fastboot)
bhale99 said:
Does the google pixel 6 pro come bootloader unlocked?
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No it doesn't. However, you may be able to unlock the bootloader depending on what model/variant you get. If you get a Verizon model/variant you will not be able to unlock your bootloader.
This is really the wrong thread to ask this question though. This topic has been discussed many times in several other threads.
Hi, On the GrapheneOS website this is stated
"Display Port
The Qualcomm chipsets in Pixel phones supports Display Port which outputs HDMI. This is however not enabled on Pixel phones. It is somewhat likely to be trivial to enable this though "
Wonder if it is possible to tweak the kernel and enable it?
Etienne_ said:
Hi, On the GrapheneOS website this is stated
"Display Port
The Qualcomm chipsets in Pixel phones supports Display Port which outputs HDMI. This is however not enabled on Pixel phones. It is somewhat likely to be trivial to enable this though "
Wonder if it is possible to tweak the kernel and enable it?
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Pixel 6/7 is not qualcomm. Its exynos.
96carboard said:
Pixel 6/7 is not qualcomm. Its exynos.
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Thanks for clearing that up.. Does that make it less possible?
Etienne_ said:
Thanks for clearing that up.. Does that make it less possible?
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Maybe, maybe not. I don't know much about how these are wired up or what their capabilities are.
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Maybe, maybe not. I don't know much about how these are wired up or what their capabilities are.
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Difficult what to do.. I run Graphene OS and it works great.. But the p6p has much more to offer, like a desktop mode.. The hardware is there but it is blocked (by kernel) Too bad.. (for now). Hope there will be a solution soonish... Thanks for the reply..
so is there any way to do HDMI/Display out through the USB port of any Pixel phone?