Curious as to whether this is standard behaviour or not: generally my 6 Pro screen runs extremely smoothly, but the refresh rate noticeably drops to 60Hz and stays there in Google Maps. Is there any way to get maps to use 120Hz or is this designed to work this way?
jayfenney said:
Curious as to whether this is standard behaviour or not: generally my 6 Pro screen runs extremely smoothly, but the refresh rate noticeably drops to 60Hz and stays there in Google Maps. Is there any way to get maps to use 120Hz or is this designed to work this way?
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Google Maps is capped at 60 Hz. Status in one issue tracker (A13 Beta) is "Won't fix (Intended behavior)". Another was just opened for QPR1 Beta.
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I'm glad it drops on things like maps, I thought that was the point
Maps uses GPS data, which comes in at 1 Hz. They've implemented some smoothing to the display by guessing at intermediate points, but from a technical point of view, I really don't see any need for it to update faster than the data that it is based on.
And just how much battery do you want it to suck down?
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Even if I put the phone on the level surface, the compass is very unstable, value changes very quickly. This is very annoying using streets view (compass mode) in Google Maps or Google Sky Map - if the phone is horizontally, the map rotates both directions very fast. Any fix for this?
I'd think that the sensitivity is set too high, I don't think this is something you can change from within Google Maps.
Have you tried downloading a compass app from the Market and seeing if the results are them same? Most apps will have some settings you can change to see where the problem lies.
Yes, I've tried... Same problem in Ulysse Gizmos - pitch and roll are very unstable
Just downloaded that app, the compass works fine, but my pitch and roll are way off. Not quite fluctuating wildly, but very inaccurate.
Have you tried calibrating the compass by waving it in a figure of 8 horizontally.
Of course I did but is the same
I have exactly the same. But annoyingly I also have that it places me consistently 10 to 40 meters off.......
Really annoying! If anyone has a solution please let me know!
I've noticed that opening Google maps at all causes the device to switch to 60Hz even when 120Hz is enabled in settings. It reflects across the device even after closing the app. The only fix is to head back to settings, switch to 60Hz and then back to 120Hz.
Anyone else experience this?
Google maps will always use 60hz because of the battery, when your battery gets more hot than 42 degrees it will drop to 60hz to. Plus when your battery reaches 5% it will switch to 60hz.
Google Maps is something that should be using a much LOWER refresh. 5Hz would be fine when in nav mode, for example.
From0toHero said:
Google maps will always use 60hz because of the battery, when your battery gets more hot than 42 degrees it will drop to 60hz to. Plus when your battery reaches 5% it will switch to 60hz.
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cpufrost said:
Google Maps is something that should be using a much LOWER refresh. 5Hz would be fine when in nav mode, for example.
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Yeah I agree, but it should revert back to 120Hz when leaving the app, instead it forces 60Hz system wide.
Check the battery temp after using google maps. Maybe it trespasses the 42 degree hence a systemwide 60hz
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Check the battery temp after using google maps. Maybe it trespasses the 42 degree hence a systemwide 60hz
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I thought it was that as well, but I opened the app only for a few seconds later and it has the same issue.
I understand. Maybe a bug, or a feature to preserve battery while using google maps. Because switching between 120hz and 60hz would make it adaptive and we know its not.
I've just set up my phone, and from all the videos never seen anyone comenting on the LTPO panel refresh rate. Tested the screen by enabling the FPS counter in developer settings and noticed it never goes down to 10hz. Even worse - always on stays locked at 120hz and home screen locks at 60hz. Is there something I am missing, or is it a bug?
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I've just set up my phone, and from all the videos never seen anyone comenting on the LTPO panel refresh rate. Tested the screen by enabling the FPS counter in developer settings and noticed it never goes down to 10hz. Even worse - always on stays locked at 120hz and home screen locks at 60hz. Is there something I am missing, or is it a bug?
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I've seen on other device threads were the built in FPS counter doesn't show the actual refresh rate and only bounces between those two. Can't recall what method was used but there are other apps that will display the proper info.
I see. I read on the Xda review, that it fluctuates between 60-120 so wanted to test and see if thats true, as I would imagine it dropping down to 10hz would be way better for battery performance.
This review is confirming that too. The variable refresh rate is definitely broken...
JDUS said:
This review is confirming that too. The variable refresh rate is definitely broken...
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As I understand it, SurfaceFlinger only sees 60 and 120, but can't see below 60. It is the display controller that sees below 60, so I suspect the Poco X3 has a different display controller than the Pixel 6 Pro. I think the Pixel 6 Pro would have to have a different display controller to allow the the developer options refresh rate to display anything below 60.
Anyone having an issue where the phone just drops down to 60hz even thou the slider is set on 120hz?? Happens about once a day for me the only way to fix it is a reboot
Joelbrentbell said:
Anyone having an issue where the phone just drops down to 60hz even thou the slider is set on 120hz?? Happens about once a day for me the only way to fix it is a reboot
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Are you using tasker? I noticed in tasker that one of the tasks I had running dropped the display down to 60hz. Either that or it lowered performance in some way.
I am not using tasker the phone is 100% stock don't know why I'm having this issue
The Oneplus 9 Pro was meant to go down 1Hz when looking at static content but no one can verify that, according to GSM Arena.
If the static content can be a GIF image, one can easily verify the 1 Hz claim if the GIF updates only once every second.
The LTPO display seems a mess. Totally broken.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1455577873209864198
Joelbrentbell said:
Anyone having an issue where the phone just drops down to 60hz even thou the slider is set on 120hz?? Happens about once a day for me the only way to fix it is a reboot
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yes, i am having the exact same issue.
i reckon it could be due to some app which hangs in the background as i already witnessed that if you listen to telegram or whatsapp voice messages and minimize the messenger app, you get the same issue.
I truly am not a person who feels I need to point fingers at the competition in order to feel better, but this is interesting: Samsung attempts to explain Galaxy S22 screen refresh-rate shenanigans
I just noticed, whilst playing around with the Show Refresh option (developer options), that the phone constantly uses 120hz whilst having AOD enabled - shouldn't it go down to 60hz? I know that some people here thought Google would set it to 10hz, but that was debunked a while ago. As of now, only Apple cycles correctly between different VRR modi (Google only does 60/120Hz, Apple does 24/30/60/90/120 as far as I know)
It seems odd that the phone is running a high refresh rate, when only a portion of the screen is running, completely still without anything running on the screen expect a static image.
Hopefully, it's yet another aspect that will get ironed out in further Android 12 updates.
Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
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Anyone else notice the phone also got super snappy and smooth all the time? I tried turning on show refresh rate an hour ago just to find out the phone never go back down to 60hz.
I tried not touching the screen untill it actually auto lock, opening youtube, netflix, tiktok, chrome, settings etc etc. I even rebooted and no change. Battery life has been slightly better which is kinda weird though.
Also i checked twice, the force peak refresh rate is turned off.
Try clearing the system cache.
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Anyone else notice the phone also got super snappy and smooth all the time? I tried turning on show refresh rate an hour ago just to find out the phone never go back down to 60hz.
I tried not touching the screen untill it actually auto lock, opening youtube, netflix, tiktok, chrome, settings etc etc. I even rebooted and no change. Battery life has been slightly better which is kinda weird though.
Also i checked twice, the force peak refresh rate is turned off.
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I just checked my phone (updated to .037), and the refresh rate is still dropping to 60hz whenever there is no input, so the adaptive refresh rate still works on my end.
My phone is dropping to 60 when there's no input as well. I just played a YouTube video and it went to 60.
On my device i have the exact same problem. As you already described, it is "always" on 120hz - it only jumps down to 60 Hz for a very brief moment, then again reaches the 120hz. This cicle is repeating itself as long as the display is turned on.
I already tried disabling all overlay services and other settings that could, as far as I could think of, have an impact on these behavior, like apps that have access to usage or device controll etc.
But as for now, I don't have a solution for this.
The strange part is that i also have a better display on time since the last update, but after checking the battery temperature for the last week (i installed the .037 on thursday) it reaches higher temperatures now as it was before the update, with around 34 Celsius on .036 vs 38 Celsius on .037 after around an hour of the same activities in the mostly same environment. The temperature difference does make sense for me, because the screen won't chill as it should. On the other hand, the longer battery life does'nt seem to fit too well in this picture.
Rauchinator said:
On my device i have the exact same problem. As you already described, it is "always" on 120hz - it only jumps down to 60 Hz for a very brief moment, then again reaches the 120hz. This cicle is repeating itself as long as the display is turned on.
I already tried disabling all overlay services and other settings that could, as far as I could think of, have an impact on these behavior, like apps that have access to usage or device controll etc.
But as for now, I don't have a solution for this.
The strange part is that i also have a better display on time since the last update, but after checking the battery temperature for the last week (i installed the .037 on thursday) it reaches higher temperatures now as it was before the update, with around 34 Celsius on .036 vs 38 Celsius on .037 after around an hour of the same activities in the mostly same environment. The temperature difference does make sense for me, because the screen won't chill as it should. On the other hand, the longer battery life does'nt seem to fit too well in this picture.
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As far as we know, it's currently buggy anyway, since the
Pixel 6 Pro is consuming more power in 60Hz mode than in 120Hz one*
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Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
www.androidheadlines.com
*in certain scenarios, like low brightness
Battery life tests have also shown that there is only a minor difference in battery life between 60hz or 120hz, so it doesn't really matter and you should - because of that - 120hz anyway since it's a much better experience.
Anyone from the UK had this update yet?
I only ask because I don't have any major issues and fingers crossed this update doesn't make anything worse.
wilpang said:
Anyone from the UK had this update yet?
I only ask because I don't have any major issues and fingers crossed this update doesn't make anything worse.
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Officially it's only a rollout in the USA and Canada, it will come to the rest of the world with the December update (or you manually sideload it, as I did).
Morgrain said:
Officially it's only a rollout in the USA and Canada, it will come to the rest of the world with the December update (or you manually sideload it, as I did).
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Notice anything major from the update?
Morgrain said:
As far as we know, it's currently buggy anyway, since the
Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
www.androidheadlines.com
*in certain scenarios, like low brightness
Battery life tests have also shown that there is only a minor difference in battery life between 60hz or 120hz, so it doesn't really matter and you should - because of that - 120hz anyway since it's a much better experience.
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Adaptive refresh is totally borked on the 6Pro.