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I ordered my Mi Max 3 from TradingShenzhen and chose the option to have them install the xiaomi.eu ROM. It arrived with TWRP installed, an unlocked bootloader, and xiaomi.eu MIUI 10 v. 8.7.26 installed. I downloaded the most recent xiaomi.eu MIUI 10 ROM (v. 8.8.23) and flashed it in TWRP.
Everything on the phone is working fine except for a persistent problem with calls. Within about 40 seconds of being in a phone call (whether on the phone or through the car's bluetooth) the party on the other side complains that my voice has suddenly changed to being very "tinny" and "robotic" and that they can't understand me. I hear them fine. At all times my signal strength is excellent. Depending on where in the city I am I may be on LTE or LTE+ with four or five bars but the problem persists.
Does this sound like a firmware issue or did I get a bad phone?
frcraig said:
I ordered my Mi Max 3 from TradingShenzhen and chose the option to have them install the xiaomi.eu ROM. It arrived with TWRP installed, an unlocked bootloader, and xiaomi.eu MIUI 10 v. 8.7.26 installed. I downloaded the most recent xiaomi.eu MIUI 10 ROM (v. 8.8.23) and flashed it in TWRP.
Everything on the phone is working fine except for a persistent problem with calls. Within about 40 seconds of being in a phone call (whether on the phone or through the car's bluetooth) the party on the other side complains that my voice has suddenly changed to being very "tinny" and "robotic" and that they can't understand me. I hear them fine. At all times my signal strength is excellent. Depending on where in the city I am I may be on LTE or LTE+ with four or five bars but the problem persists.
Does this sound like a firmware issue or did I get a bad phone?
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Try this fix from @ice0901: Hey I fixed it. Found a post on a thread that will enable VoLTE on Xiaomi Phones. Apparently they disabled VoLTE starting with MiUi 9 due to lack of certifications in certain countries, the US being one of them. To activate it dial *#*#86583#*#*
Thank you for your note. I used the secret code and activated VoLTE, but the problem persists. I called my telecom this morning and a few seconds into the call with tech support the chap said: "your voice has become distorted - I can't hear you" and then he hung up! I was thinking about using fastboot to flash the China Stable and then reflash the xiaomi.eu to see if that clears up the problem, but I am concerned about the announcement that beginning with MIUI 10 v. 8.8.23 "anti-rollback" has been activated on the Mi Max 3 and that you will brick your device if you attempt to downgrade. I also read on the xiaomi.eu forums that xiaomi.eu "disables" the anti-rollback features of the China development ROMs they use. Any thoughts on how to proceed?
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Thank you for your note. I used the secret code and activated VoLTE, but the problem persists. I called my telecom this morning and a few seconds into the call with tech support the chap said: "your voice has become distorted - I can't hear you" and then he hung up! I was thinking about using fastboot to flash the China Stable and then reflash the xiaomi.eu to see if that clears up the problem, but I am concerned about the announcement that beginning with MIUI 10 v. 8.8.23 "anti-rollback" has been activated on the Mi Max 3 and that you will brick your device if you attempt to downgrade. I also read on the xiaomi.eu forums that xiaomi.eu "disables" the anti-rollback features of the China development ROMs they use. Any thoughts on how to proceed?
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Happy to help! Sorry you're going through so much headache. I would suggest starting over as you mentioned and doing the following from @omer1919's instructions from his nitrogen rom thread:
"I suggest to start clean again by flashing 8.8.9 fastboot and then follow the full installation instructions on op post
Installation Instructions:
- Make sure your bootloader is unlocked!
- Boot to fastboot mode
- Format your data to make sure that the installation will be clear using the command: fastboot format userdata
- Flash TWRP Recovery
- Boot to TWRP recovery
- Mount all the possible partitions
- Wipe your data,cache,Internal storage,dalvik DONT WIPE SYSTEM OR YOU WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE
- Using MTP or OTG copy the xiaomi.eu rom to your device
- Flash the Xiaomi.eu rom
- Wipe cache and dalvik
- Reboot"
Can you tell us what carrier you are using? I also bout from trading Shenzen with the xiaomi.eu rom installed and had call problems at first. First thing I did was follow the advice from this thread. Flash the chinese fastboot then flash the latest xiaomi.eu rom. Then I enable voLTE by typing *#*#86583#*#* into the browser and now my calls work great!
My carrier is Telus (Canada). I followed the advice in the thread you linked (flashed China stable, re-flashed TWRP, etc.) then flashed xiaomi.eu 8.8.23 and this time my call problems were even worse. When I went to dial anyone the phone app would simply say (failed to connect). So I then flashed xiaomi.eu 8.8.9 which other Mi Max 3 users have commented is trouble free, and so far I've been making calls for the past hour to different landlines and mobiles and no call problems. Perhaps there is a problem with 8.8.23, but it is odd that more people haven't had my problems using that version.
UPDATE:
I have now had several messages from other Mi Max 3 users that 8.8.23 caused serious call issues and that reverting to 8.8.9 fixed all their problems. I have now had two days trouble free after reverting to 8.8.9 so I will wait for other reports before considering today's release of 8.8.30 (if it isn't broken why fix it). Besides, MIUI 10 beta testing is now complete for several devices so Xiaomi has begun releasing China Stable MIUI 10 ROMs as of today. I downloaded and flashed the China Stable MIUI ROM for my Mi MIX today and it is working great (despite the odd annoying menu in Chinese). Can't wait for the developers at xiaomi.eu to release their version of the China Stable MIUI 10 ROMs. If the Mi MIX (an older device) has a China Stable MIUI 10 ROM it can't be long before our Mi Max 3s get the stable version as well.
For those of you with call problems using xiaomi.eu MIUI 10 v. 8.8.23 finally an explanation from xiaomi.eu as to the cause. Xiaomi.eu has always 'stripped' the anti-rollback feature from China developer ROMs that they translate into European languages. For the Mi Max 3, 8.8.23 was the first China ROM issued with arb, so in their release xiaomi.eu stripped this feature from the firmware of the ROM. After so many complaints they realized that beginning with 8.8.23 a new modem (required for calls) was imbedded with the anti-rollback feature of that ROM, and by stripping the arb from the firmware you wound up with a ROM that included a modem that didn't work. So on this week's release, 8.8.30, they have left the anti-rollback feature in place, thus allowing the new modem in the firmware to permit normal calls. So you basically have two choices if you stay with xiaomi.eu on this phone - stay on 8.8.9 which is stable and has no anti-rollback protection, or upgrade to 8.8.30 but thereafter brick your phone if you attempt to re-flash an older version.
...then someone try 8.8.30 ? Resolved call problem ?
Can I reverse my actual rom 8.8.23 to 8.8.9 ?
Total disappointed about mi max 3.Bought from mi global store with global rom.When receive it, the calls don't work.I was hijacked to use custom buggy software for flashing rooting and other ****s to do, if i want to use max 3 normally, because there is no official global rom.Never again xiaomi, never.......
galev_90 said:
Total disappointed about mi max 3.Bought from mi global store with global rom.When receive it, the calls don't work.I was hijacked to use custom buggy software for flashing rooting and other ****s to do, if i want to use max 3 normally, because there is no official global rom.Never again xiaomi, never.......
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First: mi global store is not official Xiaomi store, just a chinese guy, which sell Xiaomi devices from China.
Second: they unlock bootloader unofficial, which is a big problem.
In other words, you got a chinese Mi Max 3, with unofficial unlock bootloader and fake ROM. Buy official global version and anything works perfect out of box.
Plz how can I get official global ROM for my mi max 3. I am in Nigeria and bought the unlocked global version of the phone last two months, August. I need Ur help, pls
Hello everyone,
I have got a mountain of questions that arised from reading the forum and a lot of different topics.
I'll have numbers on them, so if you can/want to only answer a few of them you can refer to the number.
1. I've read about this ARB quite a lot, what's the deal with that if I want to go to a custom rom?
2. I understood that it matters where to buy the device in terms of an unlocked bootloader (TradingShenzen seems like a good place to start). But if I can't get my hands on a phone with unlocked bootloader, can I unlock it myself?
3. I'd like to go with the xiaomi.eu rom, any advice on how to get there? What I mean is, should I choose a CN model or is a Global model better, does it matter? What steps to take regarding TWRP and avoiding ARB, etc.
4. What does GSI stand for? I haven't found any thread explaining what that means, and I'm quite new to xiaomi devices (would be my first one).
5. I've also seen that there are quite a few different variants of this device, do the roms for it just work on all of them or do I need to check if the model is supported? (That seems to be a bit different to other phone vendors)
That's it for now, please don't kill me if some of the things have been answered before, I haven't found an answer to the questions so far (the infos that I got so far were insufficient)
Cheers,
Zacki
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
Bartos81 said:
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
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Thanks for your reply.
@1. Interesting to see what Google is up to with things like this...why would they want this?
@2. Thanks, but whoa that's quite some time...and I guess I can only trigger the 300h AFTER I bought the phone, right? (Why so many hours actually...?)
@3. I've read about the changes they made to the rom and I like that. But what do you mean with being "less stable" than the global rom? In what way? I'd like to use that as my daily driver if I get it (not the weekly builds of course).
@4. Will have a look, thanks :good:
@5. I was actually looking at the 6GB/128GB version of the phone, if I can convince my wife to allow me to spend ~260€ on a phone (I'm currently a student ).
In this case, I'd already have an unlocked bootloader and if I want to install the rom from xiaomi.eu, there should be no problem, right? Also regarding ARB, this should be fine, right?
And in what ways are the CN and the Global versions different other than the rom? Are there differences for the supported bands or radios? I live in Austria, can I use the CN model here without any downside?
Edit: I'm having a look at this particular model, it would be available with CN firmware or with Global firmware. Would that still account as CN model in this case?
TradingShenzhen - Mi Max 3 - 6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636
Cheers
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
Bartos81 said:
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
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Ok got that, seems like people are trying everything to make a few bucks extra... Then it would have to be so (waiting).
Bartos81 said:
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
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Ok that's not such a big issue, as I said. I'd stay on the "stable" builds, not the weekly ones.
Bartos81 said:
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
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So the xiaomi.eu roms don't have any of that ARB stuff, good to know. Could I technically install an older version of that custom rom without triggering the ARB or is that not possible? Just so I understand that.
And how is that with other custom roms? I've read in some threads that you have to make sure you have the correct ARB if you want to flash that particular rom, why that?
Bartos81 said:
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
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I'm not worried about the warranty but more about the specifics of the device. Is the CN model different in any way that it may not work properly with the providers in europe? Or things like that?
And sadly that vendor does not seem to have that version in stock at the moment, so I was thinking of getting the regular CN version of the device, that's why I'm asking
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
Bartos81 said:
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
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So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
Bartos81 said:
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
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Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
Bartos81 said:
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
Oh and by the way, thank you for answering all my questions
So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
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it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while.
Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
Bartos81 said:
it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
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Ok sounds good, so if I want to go for the xiaomi.eu rom, I can just go ahead an flash that thing and I'm good, that's what I understood. Is that correct?
Bartos81 said:
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while..
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Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
Bartos81 said:
Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
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I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
Bartos81 said:
the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
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Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Using dev to unlock the bootloader affected old phones. Currently, it does not matter. Rom useful as well as Stable.
I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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Miflash is used to install only official miui Rom, you use the rom .Tgz package
It installs through Miflash with the cleaning option. It does not leave garbage in the old system.
Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
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If you have xiaomi.eu then china rom does not matter.
You can look for a seller who offers a phone with downloaded xiaomi.eu or miui global - to choose from
in the past, the sellers offered the china version.
Bartos81 said:
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
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So last question for now (I hope ), if I decide to get the EU version instead, can I still unlock the bootloader or is that only possible on the CN versions?
you can in any xiaomi
Bartos81 said:
You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
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I've just read in another thread that it is 720 hours that's full 30 days... I hope it's more the 300 hours you said but I fear I might have to wait a full month for that...
Can anyone confirm this number of hours?
Cheers
Usually it is 720 hours, but I checked it every now and then, after 4 days, this time has decreased by half.
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
techdeisel said:
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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That is an interesting note. I created an account a few days ago, when I ordered the phone. Does this already count as "having an account before trying to unlock"?
Hi,
there is a good offer for a Note 8, but it is the chinese version.
Which problems are to expect? What's to to switch the phone completly to a version to use in Germany?
Regards
Robert
robert_b said:
Hi,
there is a good offer for a Note 8, but it is the chinese version.
Which problems are to expect? What's to to switch the phone completly to a version to use in Germany?
Regards
Robert
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You can switch from chinese to global rom(or indian rom if you want inbuilt call recording option) after unlocking bootloader and debloat it all after rooting..Or maybe just flash custom roms .
robert_b said:
Hi,
there is a good offer for a Note 8, but it is the chinese version.
Which problems are to expect? What's to to switch the phone completly to a version to use in Germany?
Regards
Robert
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Hello Robert
I have ordered CN version Oct, and i have been using it ever since. Out of the box you will get 18w charger with adapter which is very good, i live in Bosina, both sims are working fine 4G works too. There is not much to be worried about in CN version it works great it gets latest builds of MIUI (compared to other versions). Only thing that was kinda a nitpick and kinda annoying for me from start is that you get few standard Chinese apps that you can delete, and some of main Mi apps keep giving notifications in CN like mi videos and very other few, but rarely and they can be blocked. When you power on a device for a first time and creating Mi account you will have to install gapps which you can do over integrated mi store as i can remember (just type google no need for Chinese fonts). After doing that and logging into your google account i recommend you to unlock bootloader, you will have to make a request for unlocking it takes 160+ hours for it to get approved. Install xiaomi.eu rom which is cleaned and optimized CN miui for global users with xiaomi devices and regular updates and builds. I am currently using xiaomi.eu rom its fast, it has also ability to update it with updater in system. Anyway it is up to your preference what you want from device, you can try to install global firmware without unlocked bootloader you can try, if you want or some other custom rom with unlocked bootloader.
Best regards
I got my 9 pro yesterday and it has indian firmware which i don't like. Is it possible to change it to global one. I'm on 11.2.5.5.
Also is it possible to use msm tool for Indian variant on this handset?
Thnx. Really hoping to get some answers
It should be, you should be able to download the global firmware from OPTeam's list of them and just flash in local update.
Yes, you can.
The only problem is 11.2.5.5 is too new, there is no full upgrade package yet. You can try flash an older global version rom, but with the risk of brick your phone. Through I think worst could happen is you have to wipe your phone.
You can find download link for global rom in this thread.
Q: How do I switch to Europe or Global OS?
A: Wait for the new version, download the #Full package and Local Update it. If you have Magisk installed, you can try to Local Update after entering the following command (need ROOT access).
resetprop ro.build.date.utc 1400000000
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That's my case too.
I'm also in the 11.2.5.5 Indian SW.
So it's better to wait for a Global 11.2.5.5 or newer to flash over it? Right? It's not necessary to erase all data?
Does someone know what are the benefits from Global over the Indian? It seems that OnePlus is giving more attention to Indian market (updates, features, etc)
danilobertelli said:
That's my case too.
I'm also in the 11.2.5.5 Indian SW.
So it's better to wait for a Global 11.2.5.5 or newer to flash over it? Right? It's not necessary to erase all data?
Does someone know what are the benefits from Global over the Indian? It seems that OnePlus is giving more attention to Indian market (updates, features, etc)
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From what I can tell, there is no discernable difference in the firmware other than bloat directed at the Indian market. I'm also on LE2120 in the U.S. running the DA firmware. Everything on my device is fully functional as far as WiFi, 5G connectivity and all that. I debloated all the Indian specific bloat (red cable club, cloud storage and the like, especially since it doesn't work here in the States). I expect you can flash other regions firmware without issue or data loss so long as the other regions firmware is "newer" than what you're already on, otherwise it simply won't let you using local upgrade.
I'm also on LE2120 in the UAE running out of box coloros, then downgraded to the DA firmware, today I have updated to Global 11.2.5.5 . Everything on my device is fully functional except 5G (ETISALAT) and Invalid VIP NV's:2500 at every restart
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I'm also on LE2120 in the UAE running out of box coloros, then downgraded to the DA firmware, today I have updated to Global 11.2.5.5 . Everything on my device is fully functional except 5G (ETISALAT) and Invalid VIP NV's:2500 at every restart
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is the nv 2500, the verification in about phone page in system setting and the missing 5g all related upon cross flashing the color os to oxygen os?
MarukuV said:
is the nv 2500, the verification in about phone page in system setting and the missing 5g all related upon cross flashing the color os to oxygen os?
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Not really sure
anasmhds said:
Not really sure
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did you check the verification area under the "about phone" page in system settings. there are no regulatory labels there
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
sun_is_shinning said:
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
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I suggest you unlock your bootloader and Flash a xiaomi.eu Rom(Lots of videos on YouTube FYI) via TWRP . It has MI Dialer and Contacts. Don't flash Stock ROM of other regions or sub brands.
Animesh Singh said:
I suggest you unlock your bootloader and Flash a xiaomi.eu Rom(Lots of videos on YouTube FYI) via TWRP . It has MI Dialer and Contacts. Don't flash Stock ROM of other regions or sub brands.
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I suggest flashing China ROM directly instead... Miui.eu is unstable garbage , feels like a bad custom ROM with all of it's FPS drops and random lag spikes.
I tried China developer build while I was on my downgrade spree and I can say performance was immensely better . Everything else tho not so much ...
Better than EU for sure but I prefer global over it. Google services and everything else...
sun_is_shinning said:
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
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Unlock your bootloader & flash Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM. It's the best version of MIUI and includes Mi Phone (with Call Rec) & Mi Contacts.
The China ROM doesn't contain Google Services and is generally not optimised for Use outside of that region.
dreamytom said:
Sounds like user error.
Unlock your bootloader & flash Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM. It's the best version of MIUI and includes Mi Phone (with Call Rec) & Mi Contacts. Don't flash Mi 11X ROM onto the Poco F3.
And don't flash the China ROM. It doesn't contain Google Services and is generally not optimised for Use outside of that region.
The user above me is full of ****.
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Lmao man you shouldn't be qualified to talk about performance at all. Based on your post from before your use case scenario is so light that you can't even notice lack of performance from 870 chips.
I've talked to users having same issue I've described literally few days ago , on top of that I've tried myself both EU and VN versions and both felt like custom ROMs in terms of severe performance instability. So much so that I'm not using either of those but waiting for features in those ROMs to come to global users.
Have you flashed China ROM ???
Tried it for yourself before calling someone out ? I really doubt that's the case. It feels and performs leagues above miui VN or EU
Rstment ^m^ said:
Lmao man you shouldn't be qualified to talk about performance at all. Based on your post from before your use case scenario is so light that you can't even notice lack of performance from 870 chips.
I've talked to users having same issue I've described literally few days ago , on top of that I've tried myself both EU and VN versions and both felt like custom ROMs in terms of severe performance instability. So much so that I'm not using either of those but waiting for features in those ROMs to come to global users.
Have you flashed China ROM ???
Tried it for yourself before calling someone out ? I really doubt that's the case. It feels and performs leagues above miui VN or EU
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I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
You also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
Sorry for saying you're full of sh*t, but you also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
Sorry for saying you're full of sh*t, but you also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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Nah the geekbank benchmark makes 0 sense when we are talking about random frame drops and stuttering lmao... But anyways it still is worse for you so yeah.....
Those random lags and stutters that you blame miui for are nonexistent on proper miui ROMs - China or global , I moved to get away from the stuttering and **** performance and am happy to report I've seen next to none ever since.
Idk what miui EU Devs are doing but it's essentially custom ROM regardless , they broke something 100% , be it by removing functionality from some crucial miui service or whatever the performance is not there.
EU version is supposed to offer higher performance in all use case scenarios over global by allowing for higher thermal limits when performance mode is activated , yet the experience is much worse with or without performance mode....
China or global only , miui EU is a joke. Based on China but trying to imitate global and ends up being worse than both lmao
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Nah the geekbank benchmark makes 0 sense when we are talking about random frame drops and stuttering lmao... But anyways it still is worse for you so yeah.....
Those random lags and stutters that you blame miui for are nonexistent on proper miui ROMs - China or global , I moved to get away from the stuttering and **** performance and am happy to report I've seen next to none ever since.
Idk what miui EU Devs are doing but it's essentially custom ROM regardless , they broke something 100% , be it by removing functionality from some crucial miui service or whatever the performance is not there.
EU version is supposed to offer higher performance in all use case scenarios over global by allowing for higher thermal limits when performance mode is activated , yet the experience is much worse with or without performance mode....
China or global only , miui EU is a joke. Based on China but trying to imitate global and ends up being worse than both lmao
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I'm talking about Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM, not Stock MIUI for EU region, those are 2 different things.
If you have problems, run 3DMark Firestrike and compare against other SD 870 phones.
dreamytom said:
I'm talking about Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM, not Stock MIUI for EU region, those are 2 different things.
If you have problems, run 3DMark Firestrike and compare against other SD 870 phones.
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I know what you're talking about lmao read better before you jump to reply.
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I know what you're talking about lmao read better before you jump to reply.
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I have read it, but it's hard to tell from your messages if were talking about the Custom ROM. Some people mistake Xiaomi.eu for official Xiaomi ROMs for Europe.
Regardless there isn't much difference between Global & EEA. EEA has a toggle for ads directly in the Android Setup while the other doesn't, and some other changes so its GDPR compliant. There are no differences regarding performance.
I agree that China ROMs are the best if you want pure performance on MIUI. People only use xiaomi.eu because it's convenient, but it can never be the same as the official stuffs, after all it's just a frankenstein ROM that was modified directly then released without any actual optimization.
Saphira209 said:
I agree that China ROMs are the best if you want pure performance on MIUI. People only use xiaomi.eu because it's convenient, but it can never be the same as the official stuffs, after all it's just a frankenstein ROM that was modified directly then released without any actual optimization.
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im about to unlock my bootloader today cause the thing of "wait 168 hours" sh*t" and today i have free time...
One last question, xiaomi.eu ROM have the dolby atmos built in as the stock ROM?! Thanks in advance.
sun_is_shinning said:
im about to unlock my bootloader today cause the thing of "wait 168 hours" sh*t" and today i have free time...
One last question, xiaomi.eu ROM have the dolby atmos built in as the stock ROM?! Thanks in advance.
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Yeah
Hello people.
If I want to flash stock firmware with "MiFlash" do I have to unlock the device and the bootloader?
I mean, it is stock firmware.
Also, wondering if this applies if I want to flash the Mi 11x firmware?
Currently running Global firmware for Poco F3, MIUI 12.5.4.
I used to have Samsung before and flash all the time, but since they started with the Knox tripping thing I stopped and now I'm a little rusted.
I changed to Xiami and couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your support
jpdediego said:
Hello people.
If I want to flash stock firmware with "MiFlash" do I have to unlock the device and the bootloader?
I mean, it is stock firmware.
Also, wondering if this applies if I want to flash the Mi 11x firmware?
Currently running Global firmware for Poco F3, MIUI 12.5.4.
I used to have Samsung before and flash all the time, but since they started with the Knox tripping thing I stopped and now I'm a little rusted.
I changed to Xiami and couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your support
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For Official ROMs, unlocking bootloader is not necessary. Why do you want to flash the ROM of a different phone? Not recommended doing that...
dreamytom said:
For Official ROMs, unlocking bootloader is not necessary. Why do you want to flash the ROM of a different phone? I don't recommend doing that.
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Well, the bottom line will be just to test and see the difference between MIUI and Poco MIUI.
And it will be only with Mi 11x firmware which is the same phone but "different" brand, no intention of flashing the shark firmware for instance.
I've noticed some difference with my wife's Mi11 and I liked the dialer and she can sort regents in horizontal way.
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I think you won't be able to flash a different phones' ROM. Aren't you afraid it would brick your device? The ROM is for a different phone!
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Well, that's why I'm asking here.
At the end it is the same rebranded phone.
Must important will know how to unbrick it just in case
Not sure if I'll try at all
Haha
The difference is the model. Poco F3 and Redmi K40 are the alioth model, while Mi 11X is aliothin. Most custom roms makes the distinction between models at flashing, who isn't the case for stock. There's the slight chance to brick the phone while flashing the China version, plus the baseband aren't the same.
If you like to test pure MIUI instead of Poco MIUI, why not instead extract the desired APKs in Mi 11X ROM and replace them in your Poco F3?
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