Feature available in Settings -> Special Features -> Second Space allow escaping all sorts of parental controls applications with just three taps, but I couldn't find a way to disable it.
Could it be disabled, or do I need to flash a custom ROM?
The removal of it could be being blocked by the parental controls you speak of.
Unfortunately, that is not the case, Settings app cannot be managed by parental controls.
Even if it was possible, that would be a bad workaround, as Settings are used for too many things other than Second Space.
tdiabel said:
Unfortunately, that is not the case, Settings app cannot be managed by parental controls.
Even if it was possible, that would be a bad workaround, as Settings are used for too many things other than Second Space.
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I misunderstood your question.
I don't think it's possible to remove the feature. Although yes, your best bet would be to find a custom Rom that does not have second space.
Been some time since I was on MIUI, but I think there is a Gear-Icon in the top right, in the Second Space Settings in Settings-App (or MIUI Security?)
I think there it was possible to do ^^
This option is akin to a hard reset, deletes current "VM" and then you can make a new one.
Pardon me,
is still anyway to remove/uninstall this feature "second space" completely from xiaomi? want to give my old poco f1 to nephew, however the parent ask to full parental control the phone, so the choice is no second space or -no- xiaomi phone at all
It's very easy to remove actually.... But then again if he has a PC no matter what you do , he can get around it.
I'd rather not participate in anything like this tbh
So I'm not gonna tell you how or anything
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Here's a list of apps that are open when my phone is just turned on:
Paperdroid
Greed2
Market
NewsRob
Tasker
Google Mail
News
Wifi Manager
Gallery
Colornote
Footprints
Messages
Nimbuzz
Clock
twicca
Skebby
fring
FM Radio
Music
Stocks
Except a few system ones (Gmail, Messages..), why do apps open even if I never used them? Especially the HTC ones (Stocks, Footprints), they are really annoying apps I never opened.
Can this be solved somehow? It may not use resources or battery but I don't understand why I can't decide what to open.
It feels like the Windows system tray, bunch of stuff often stuck there autostarting with no way of removing it (if not by using 3rd party programs).
i was about to post the same question. Just dont understand why they start when i got my sync set to manual
totally agree that all these apps/services or whatever you call just annoying as they are started without user permission. Hv raised a similar thread some time ago, and Im not expert on such issues, but as far as I understand, the only way to get rid of them is -unfortunately- passing through root & custom roms.. No way out to stop them from being run automatically especially the Sense ones. However, acc to more advanced users or developers, they are not so "dangerous" in terms of battery consumption, nor any other impact on system as long as user do not activate and use them. For those which requires synching e.g. stocks, news, facebook, peep etc. it is enough to keep autosynch option disabled, thus it is no longer needing to think/care about them, that's it. But if the point is to ensure more room available in the internal memory, then -as said- the only solution is flashing rom with any 3rd party rom like cyanogen, modaco, defrost, ........
Me? still stuck with the official froyo on my unbranded, unrooted Desire (since April 13th)
iLHaNroID said:
totally agree that all these apps/services or whatever you call just annoying as they are started without user permission
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when you download them you give them all the permissions they need, if you dont like the way a program behaves ..... simple dont download it
Wow that's helpful, simply don't download stock and peep and others.how come I did not think about it???
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it starts them, cause it has enough memory to cacche them.
so when you want to launch them, they open fast. simple as that.
when do people stop worrying about memory and all this. android handles that very well. no reason for watching memory and running programs even.
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Can this be solved somehow? It may not use resources or battery but I don't understand why I can't decide what to open.
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Put simply, the reason why these start at boot is because they are set to receive the ACTION_BOOT_COMPLETED intent.
Allows an application to receive the ACTION_BOOT_COMPLETED that is broadcast after the system finishes booting. If you don't request this permission, you will not receive the broadcast at that time. Though holding this permission does not have any security implications, it can have a negative impact on the user experience by increasing the amount of time it takes the system to start and allowing applications to have themselves running without the user being aware of them. As such, you must explicitly declare your use of this facility to make that visible to the user.
Constant Value: "android.permission.RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED"
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Bear in mind that 99.99% of Android users will never know that this has happened, or that these processes were started. So, if they want to use Stocks, Peep, or whatever, they don't need to make a conscious decision to have the app start automatically - it just does.
Whilst I'm sure Google could build in an official API to allow you to control this behaviour, it would only be of benefit to a very tiny minority of users.
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Dave
Thank you for the explanation.
All I want would be an option to disable autostart.
I found it in fring, for example, and would like to see other developers add this option as well.
The only bad impact you could have is that boot time could be a couple of seconds longer for every application that starts. Otherwise, that memory it occupies will be freed the second the system needs it and CPU-wise, those applications are staying idle in the background
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All I want would be an option to disable autostart.
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Same here. Android has a slightly ridiculous amount of processes and apps running in the background all the time, and while they in theory shouldn't put a strain on the battery when they're not using the CPU, I'm beginning to think that they do since battery life on Android usually is awful, no matter how many precautions you take.
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Same here. Android has a slightly ridiculous amount of processes and apps running in the background all the time, and while they in theory shouldn't put a strain on the battery when they're not using the CPU, I'm beginning to think that they do since battery life on Android usually is awful, no matter how many precautions you take.
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exactly, no matter how many precautions you make, so you are basically saying it doesn't matter how many apps are "running"... It makes no difference whether memory is used by an app or not.
Read this article to understand it better: http://www.droid-den.com/android-guides/android-guide-should-i-use-a-task-killer
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exactly, no matter how many precautions you make, so you are basically saying it doesn't matter how many apps are "running"... It makes no difference whether memory is used by an app or not.
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With "precautions" I wasn't referring to killing processes, but general battery saving precautions, many based on common sense. I agree that task killers never should be used, unless a specific app has frozen and is given you trouble. But you can just go to Android's own Applications screen for that.
Is there a free way to stop applications from starting up?
This can be accomplished with a cheap app Autostarts, but I would rather not pay.
i'm trying the trial of startup manager, blocks some but not all. looks like it just kills the process once it's started tself. gonna get rid, and just use the task manager i have now.
it doesnt matter if it only makes a small difference, it's (for me anyway) about control, no different that on the PC
i have plenty of RAM in my PC but i wont allow every single program to have something start itself at bootup. it;s annoying. that's why i use msconfig to kill em.
that's what we need for android.
I don't know of other programs, but autostarts works quite well, and it's not that expensive, as I recall.
snudel said it all: stop worrying about memory.. i was a long time iphone user. on iphone memory is a nightmare.. soh on desire i was all the time fc'ing app's, them i notice the problem wasnt memory os the great number of opened apps, but me.. now they run on background, open fast, the mem management is awesome, they dont seen to utilize any noticeable amount of battery.. so, before changing the system, try changing yourself..
Hello everyone. I installed the VCS Rom and apparently it blocks ads. I want to enable showing ads once again, so is there anyway to do this? And even better, is there anyway to enable it for specific apps? Meaning that the adblocker will continue for most apps except for some of them? I want to support some developers that I believe did a very good job, and the least I can do is enable the ads to show...
I don't know whether no on knows or just ignoring the question !!
While I am not too sure about disabling it for certain apps, if there is no option to simply disable it on the VCS ROM (I haven't checked that one out yet), what you can do is download ROM Toolbox from the market, and in its ad-block feature there is an option for disabling ad-blocking. If you only need to use a certain app or two (Like Hulu+) then I think that this would be the way to go. At least that is what I do
It did work. Of course for all the apps, but I just wanted to support the developers. So, I guess we're all happy now. Thanks a lot...
Very poetic I know...
I am incredibly overwhelmed at the amount of apps that I can disable to auto start on Rom Toolbox and I simply dont know what some of the instances are. Can someone suggest a general rule of thumb on which apps to disable the auto start of? Any help is greatly appreciated. Oh and I just discovered the lower density settings. Pretty nice.
Only general rule of thumb I know, is do not disable unless you know what it is. Other than that, google will answer your questions if you are actually curious.
You'll know the apps you've installed. Most /system apps are self explanatory, the underlying frameworks will be the only unknown left to understand, and you shouldn't disable most of them anyways.
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Very poetic I know...
I am incredibly overwhelmed at the amount of apps that I can disable to auto start on Rom Toolbox and I simply dont know what some of the instances are. Can someone suggest a general rule of thumb on which apps to disable the auto start of? Any help is greatly appreciated. Oh and I just discovered the lower density settings. Pretty nice.
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For me, basically I disabled lots of startups.
If you are using rom toolbox, there are two types of startups displayed - Events and Applications.
Events - My recommendation is, do not touch any system related events like phone, exchange service (if you use email), etc. But beside of system apps, you may disable the custom apps if it doesn't need to be updated on the event of system boot. I disabled lots of events, something like XDA premium, triangle away, Telenav gps, talk, tango, screenshot it, rom manager, email, gmail, +++
Applications - Only the part that I usually change is the 'widget updating'. All other parts are related to boot/shutdown, connectivity, state changes. So, to keep the application working, these parts need to be untouched. But widget part is a little different. I believe most of users are partially using the widgets. Even some people don't like the widget at all. So, for the widgets, you don't use, you can disable the widget updating. If you disable the widget updating, then the disabled widgets will be disappeared from the widget menu and those cannot be used for widget. The difficult part of disabling widgets is, it's hard to find which one (widget updating) on the applications is corresponding to which actual widget (if there are multiple widgets under one application).
The benefit of disabling the startups is, we can save the memory and battery by eliminating unnecessary events or applications.
But the difficult part is, it's taking long time and there's no tool to backup your startup configuration. So, if you flash the new rom, you have to re-configure the startup settings unless if you use the no-data option during the flashing (this is what I'm doing everytime when I flash the rom).
-my two cents -
Remembering this from the old EVO boards, doesn't it end to starting anyway? Just doesn't start at the actual bootup? Same issue with task managers that close things that can't stay closed and end up restarting.
If this is (still) true then there is no reason to stop them from starting. Though I could be way wrong in which case just do what my wife does and ignore me.
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Remembering this from the old EVO boards, doesn't it end to starting anyway? Just doesn't start at the actual bootup? Same issue with task managers that close things that can't stay closed and end up restarting.
If this is (still) true then there is no reason to stop them from starting. Though I could be way wrong in which case just do what my wife does and ignore me.
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Lmao. Well that why I ask because I have no idea what I am doing and do not want to cause any more problems for myself but it seems as if alot of unnecessary apps start when I boot.
after the latest update it feels like there is way too much stuff
nice that they added Music.
FreeTime, at first I got foolishly excited thinking: "even though this is for kids, it says 'you can add Your Apps' !!!" but then quickly realized the obvious: amazon's apps, not your own apps. duh.
but now it feels like there's just way too much junk sitting there.
it would be nice to be able to choose the order of the categories, and which categories to display (or not-display)
I don't think this will happen, because then the user won't constantly scroll past all those things to buy!
I've been happy with stock everything for a while - all I ever use is Plex and whatever free videos I've loaded. So basically I only ever use: Home, Watchlist, and Settings.
didn't want to bother with rooting or with llama / launcher.
hmmmm... actually... with rooting, there might be a way to change some of the KFTVLauncher display settings... if I get annoyed enough maybe I'll look at that.
Maybe someone can make an xposed mod for editing the selection menus so we can add,hide/remove,or reposition selections.
Of course the settings page will need to be made unable to hide or delete.
I want to at least hide all but home and settings so I can quickly access my apps by going down only once and without using as much memory since the other options would not take up extra RAM space.
Random question for anyone:Can I set up a SWAP file on my 32GB USB Mass Storage connected via Stickmount to gain serious performance?
retroben said:
Maybe someone can make an xposed mod for editing the selection menus so we can add,hide/remove,or reposition selections.
Of course the settings page will need to be made unable to hide or delete.
I want to at least hide all but home and settings so I can quickly access my apps by going down only once and without using as much memory since the other options would not take up extra RAM space.
Random question for anyone:Can I set up a SWAP file on my 32GB USB Mass Storage connected via Stickmount to gain serious performance?
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I was planning on expanding my Xposed module to allow you hide/show the various sidebar items. I already figured out how to modify it but with the recent update some or all of my code is broken and I haven't had a chance yet to see which part of it is.
I'm not sure what kind of boost you think you are going to get from swap. For one, USB storage is slower than molasses and for two, that's a great way to kill said usb storage device.
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I'm not sure what kind of boost you think you are going to get from swap. For one, USB storage is slower than molasses and for two, that's a great way to kill said usb storage device.
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QFT
also, thank you rbox for all your earlier work with xposed...
QFT
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Quite,fast,though?
I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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Thanks for your hard work on this. I have 12 menu items on the home launcher, 6 of which I never use, and would love to cut that in half.
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I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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rbox, do you have the code on github or anywhere? I would love to have a go at it also.
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rbox, do you have the code on github or anywhere? I would love to have a go at it also.
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No. Right now it's a big giant mess of lots of random test code.
rbox is killin it with this xposed work. He gave me some insight into what he's doing and it blows any of the tinkering I've done (messing with DBs that get rewritten immediately..) away.
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rbox is killin it with this xposed work. He gave me some insight into what he's doing and it blows any of the tinkering I've done (messing with DBs that get rewritten immediately..) away.
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I just updated my module thread for v1.1 which contains the menu items selection feature.
Hi, I am a new user of this excellent phone.
I never root my phones (I know - I shouldn't even be here ), but like to tinker with settings a bit.
Anyway, I was just wondering when I go to SETTINGS--APPS--ALL I can see there is an option to 'Disable' on many of stock apps.
I presume, this can free some on the internal memory?
So my question is which of these stock apps can be safely disabled?
I would also appreciate an explanation of what this option actually does.
TIA and enjoy your phones, everybody.
Disabled app's aren't allowed to run in RAM but are still installed and take up internal storage waiting to be enabled again.
You can disable most things it will let you if not rooted. Anything really important to the system won't have a disable button but it's not enough for lots of people. Junk from operator can't be disabled on mine but some semi-useful stuff can... Better to root, remove what you want, unroot again if need be.
bangawasawa said:
Hi, I am a new user of this excellent phone.
I never root my phones (I know - I shouldn't even be here ), but like to tinker with settings a bit.
Anyway, I was just wondering when I go to SETTINGS--APPS--ALL I can see there is an option to 'Disable' on many of stock apps.
I presume, this can free some on the internal memory?
So my question is which of these stock apps can be safely disabled?
I would also appreciate an explanation of what this option actually does.
TIA and enjoy your phones, everybody.
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