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Dear Xiaomi,
I'm sure there are a lot of buyers (like me) of your latest flagship phone Xiaomi Mi5s who bought this phone hoping that you will release the source code very soon after its market introduction and thus make use of numerous custom firmware out there.
Hence our humble request: Please release the kernel source code for Xiaomi Mi5s asap.
Thanks
Edit 1 (27.04.2017):
After 7 months of waiting, the kernel source code for Xiaomi Mi5s has been released. Finally!
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/scorpio-m-oss
See also the MIUI Xiaomi Mi5s Forum.
http://en.miui.com/thread-407935-1-1.html
best regards
This post does not belong in this section.
Also I doubt anyone from Xiaomi would read this post.
Even if they did, they already know we on XDA would like the source code released - the same as every other phone released!
Answer from the supermoderator of en.miui.com:
"hi dear all
please be patience.
when it is release, word will spread.
however, no exact date is known at this point of time, SO
please please stay tuned in forum for more news & announcements.
cheers"
luiseteyo said:
Answer from the supermoderator of en.miui.com:
"hi dear all
please be patience.
when it is release, word will spread.
however, no exact date is known at this point of time, SO
please please stay tuned in forum for more news & announcements.
cheers"
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I saw that comment, what an informing notice lol. Miui forums community is cancer imo, no info at all. Polls everywhere.
"when it is release, word will spread." Oh god thank you! I'll not fall for the price next time i buy a phone.
atakanadil said:
I saw that comment, what an informing notice lol. Miui forums community is cancer imo, no info at all. Polls everywhere.
"when it is release, word will spread." Oh god thank you! I'll not fall for the price next time i buy a phone.
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And I suggest you not to read that forums comment section. They post something and there is only thank you and praise for the OP. Fair to say it's cancerous
Need to start getting to the governments of countries involved to block importing/sale of ANY products that use GPL based software that they dont release source code for that the license says they must. I guess unfortunately enforcing GPL doesnt have the backing of multi billion dollar movie studios like pirating one movie might bring...
Basically their stealing other peoples work and making a profit by selling it without following the law of releasing their modifications of the source.
If the product is sold then source must be available otherwise the law is being broken, stop them selling their products outside of China and then they might give a toss about releasing kernel source, their stealing the work of thousands of developers and not abiding by the license that the source was released under.
Looks like Mi5S support will be abandoned shortly as their releasing the Mi6, looks like we got a lemon of a phone, time to chuck all Mi5S's into the kitchen grinder and destroy them
droiduser said:
Looks like Mi5S support will be abandoned shortly as their releasing the Mi6, looks like we got a lemon of a phone, time to chuck all Mi5S's into the kitchen grinder and destroy them
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Stop crying. Mi 5s forum moderator said that in beta a big amount of changes for Mi 5s.
BlackJetCat said:
Stop crying. Mi 5s forum moderator said that in beta a big amount of changes for Mi 5s.
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Well, if they can not handle it like Oneplus did it months ago, they could release sources to let us do better than they can.
Please don't protect xiaomi developers. Their updates are a joke, at least when hardware bugs still subsist like fingerprint scanner. It's funny to see that an XDA developer fixed it with LineageOS even without source code. They are amateurs on their jobs, that is guaranteed. They don't understand that an hardware is as good as it's software permits.
It's also important to note that they released nougat not only for ancient devices but also for more recent devices than mi 5s which is an insult. In fact i believe nougat comes to mi6 sooner than mi 5s, releasing mi6 with MM is ridiculous anyway.
With mi6 they change this device to the past, with software from the past and without kernel sources, future proof hardware bugs.
So yes, even if they release sources or Nougat tomorrow i would be still disappointed. It's my right to feel as so and to share it in a proper manner.
BPSoft said:
Well, if they can not handle it like Oneplus did it months ago, they could release sources to let us do better than they can.
Please don't protect xiaomi developers. Their updates are a joke, at least when hardware bugs still subsist like fingerprint scanner. It's funny to see that an XDA developer fixed it with LineageOS even without source code. They are amateurs on their jobs, that is guaranteed. They don't understand that an hardware is as good as it's software permits.
It's also important to note that they released nougat not only for ancient devices but also for more recent devices than mi 5s which is an insult. In fact i believe nougat comes to mi6 sooner than mi 5s, releasing mi6 with MM is ridiculous anyway.
With mi6 they change this device to the past, with software from the past and without kernel sources, future proof hardware bugs.
So yes, even if they release sources or Nougat tomorrow i would be still disappointed. It's my right to feel as so and to share it in a proper manner.
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I am disappointed too. But every day I see at least one man who say that "Xiaomi tricked us, no support for global, this phone is ****, throw it away". I don't see posts like this on 4pda, but usually russian community raging first.
I don't feel tricked, because i expected Xiaomi dominant position. But a dominant position makes sense when there is no problem whatsoever, or they managed to rapidly correct problems, or when a software is proprietary. None of this happened. They don't fix it and don't let us try to do better. This model suffer from hardware inconsistency with some camera and screen manufacture, this should be sufficient to provide some after sale care at least at software domain. I still wait for the best, but what i could assure at this time is that i regret this acquisition against Oneplus 3T. I question myself if they acknowledge that Oneplus is their natural competitors and that they are gaining the game with simple actions. First CPU with normal clock (170k vs 152k max at antutu), then battery friendly oled, then a working fingerprint scanner without battery drain, consistent hardware sources against multisourced modules, open source since day one, frequent usefull updates, and fast upgrade to last Android. For me is night and day. Say nothing isn't an option because i would not protect my product, neither potential buyers, or Xiaomi option to make things right.
BPSoft said:
I don't feel tricked, because i expected Xiaomi dominant position. But a dominant position makes sense when there is no problem whatsoever, or they managed to rapidly correct problems, or when a software is proprietary. None of this happened. They don't fix it and don't let us try to do better. This model suffer from hardware inconsistency with some camera and screen manufacture, this should be sufficient to provide some after sale care at least at software domain. I still wait for the best, but what i could assure at this time is that i regret this acquisition against Oneplus 3T. I question myself if they acknowledge that Oneplus is their natural competitors and that they are gaining the game with simple actions. First CPU with normal clock (170k vs 152k max at antutu), then battery friendly oled, then a working fingerprint scanner without battery drain, consistent hardware sources against multisourced modules, open source since day one, frequent usefull updates, and fast upgrade to last Android. For me is night and day. Say nothing isn't an option because i would not protect my product, neither potential buyers, or Xiaomi option to make things right.
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I agree with you for the most part, but not for comparing Xiaomi's Mi5s with Oneplus 3T. I paid less than $300 for my Mi5s 4/32, Oneplus 3T costs at least $420. I don't say it doesn't worth the money, I'm sure it does (OLED, 6gb RAM, etc...), I'm just saying it's not the same price range...
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I agree with you for the most part, but not for comparing Xiaomi's Mi5s with Oneplus 3T. I paid less than $300 for my Mi5s 4/32, Oneplus 3T costs at least $420. I don't say it doesn't worth the money, I'm sure it does (OLED, 6gb RAM, etc...), I'm just saying it's not the same price range...
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If Mi 5s had 6GB ram, Gorilla Glass 4 and OLED etc... It'll will cost as much as 3T
Let's not split hairs,let us all just hope Xiaomi releases the kernel sources for Mi5s along with Mi6 or by the end of April.
g0t.milkk said:
I agree with you for the most part, but not for comparing Xiaomi's Mi5s with Oneplus 3T. I paid less than $300 for my Mi5s 4/32, Oneplus 3T costs at least $420. I don't say it doesn't worth the money, I'm sure it does (OLED, 6gb RAM, etc...), I'm just saying it's not the same price range...
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Also in that case a more fair comparison would be between Oneplus 3T and Mi5s 4/128 that cost me 379€.
Since the mi6 was released today...should we expect to receive access to the kernel's source code today? Any news in this regard?
We need official nougat global dev rom ASAP.
I guess at this point it may be a good idea to write to http://gpl-violations.org for an advice and help
Xiaomi already know you want the source code - it is the same with EVERY other phone! They will release it when they are ready to.
Making complaints on this non-Xiaomi forum / starting petitions will not make any difference. They will not read them.
Hi Folks,
As you know, there are lot meet ups happening in India for Honor/Huawei users, currently for Honor 6X and Honor 8 Pro only, but we may see these coming to other devices as well based on the response. It may be limited for older devices where software support is not possible but eventually newer devices like, Honor 5C, Honor 8, Honor 6X and honor 8 pro would be included (if they get more requests for 5C and 8).
In this thread, lets discuss on various points/feedback and feature request that we want to raise it to the Honor teams during meetup and eventually taken up to the R&D team for consideration to enhance the end user experience in a positive way.
Anybody attending these meet ups with Honor team can put forward these points and we wish these points will be considered to provide a happy and positive user experience.
Creating a thread in Honor 8 Pro section as well so that 8 pro user can fill their points there and we can refer any of these thread for unique points to proceed with.
8 Pro Thread
Good luck.
Attached is the list of point raised during Honor meet up in Chennai and compiled by our fellow member @amulbaby (Abhishek)
View attachment Points_from_Chennai_Meet-up.pdf
8 pro thread- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/feature-request-feedback-upcoming-emui-t3669807
As we already discussed on other thread few of the points
removal of knuckle feature
camera lag on EMUI 5 (while opening only)
Over exposed image while using front camera
timely Kernel sources for all the device
Double tap to wake up
uniform OTA acorss all devices
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @VenuGopalu077 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby add other if I missed anyone.
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
shashank1320 said:
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
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Well to be perfectly honest after owning 2 H5x and an Honor 8 I have no intentions of ever owning another Honor device.
The company has all but abandon it's past phone owners and all their interested in is you buying their next phone.
Their is no reason to back or support Honor and all their broken promises. The don't even respect their own employees
and they for Damn sure never listen to the Users request and feedback.
At the prices they are charging for their devices you could be using a LG G6 / HTC 10 / ZTE axon a Nokia 6 or any number of Moto or samsung phones (My kids Galaxy S8 plus was $525 with trade in and just $24 a month with samsung financing)
clsA said:
Well to be perfectly honest after owning 2 H5x and an Honor 8 I have no intentions of ever owning another Honor device.
The company has all but abandon it's past phone owners and all their interested in is you buying their next phone.
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A transparent and open feedback mate :good:
First of all, thanks for asking my opinion about. I've read the PDF file attached and i found it very interesting. Plus, seeing such a relationship between OEM and customers is great. That's how things should always be.
Aside what has been already told, and the thing which i agree most is the uniformity of updates on all devices to ensure a quality performance to every device, I'd suggest to being more developer friendly (don't worry, I've already seen that in the points declared above, the release of kernel sources in time is already there). You shouldn't leave developers with tied hands, and anyway the device would be always bought from Huawei/Honor, so why mind too much at which OS will run on the phone? I buy the phone for hardware characteristics overall, what matters for real is that the user would feel free to do whatever it wants with the phone, once that it has been payed. Next; ensuring a stable security patch update without having to download the full package would be nice third: things like NFC chip present in the device but disabled in some countries (luckily I'm not one of the involved) should never happens. I understand about the call recording because some countries take it easier compared to others, but i think that the NFC technology is the same (or almost) in every country, so why disable it?
As i'll remind other features, I'll come back to speak about them. At the moment nothing else to say
RedSkull23 said:
First of all, thanks for asking my opinion about.
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Coz i knew, you will definitely provide feedback and a honest and useful one.
RedSkull23 said:
ensuring a stable security patch update without having to download the full package would be nice third: things like NFC chip present in the device but disabled in some countries (luckily I'm not one of the involved) should never happens. I understand about the call recording because some countries take it easier compared to others, but i think that the NFC technology is the same (or almost) in every country, so why disable it?
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Exactly mate. Thats why i said uniform OTA and similar EMUI for all variants if they use same hardware. Also OTA can be same across all devices.
First of all i want to say that honor is doing a good act.. Tgis meetup thing is very positive but i want them to really implement this and the results should be positive..
1. Double tap to wakeup on kirin based devices
2. Quick and firm OTA updates for all regions as i feel that Pakistan region is ignored and dont get updates fasters.
3. Should provide 2 major upgrades on a device.. Means 2 year full support.
shashank1320 said:
Coz i knew, you will definitely provide feedback and a honest and useful one.
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Wow, thanks again man
shashank1320 said:
Exactly mate. Thats why i said uniform OTA and similar EMUI for all variants if they use same hardware. Also OTA can be same across all devices.
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Would be both a work in less to do by them, and a better way to communicate with other devices and so developing a more synergetic compatibility with various devices by the same OEM. Sounds more like something futuristic however ahahah. Jokes aside, some model surely has and will have particular features that are present only in models that the hardware would permit, like more options for a better shot on camera as an hypothesis. Then it'd be sufficient to add in the OS some strings as "show this option if camera sensor x is true" and "show not this option if camera sensor x is false" or something like that, like some apps and OS already do from many time (like Greenify and the alternative lock-screen option that is shown if is a fingerprint sensor is detected, in example).
I have two things to speak about:
1- honor made their devices totally hard to unlock and even harder to recover if bricked, I was wondering why they won't make it easy like Oneplus or Google?!
2- is about EMUI, I want Huawei to leave the lockscreen and notification panel just what Google intended (they can skin it however they)
The way how EMUI handle notification and lockscreen notifications is pretty bad.
I want them to fix these two points, and if they still continue with that.
I'm seriously going to sell my honor 8 and get Xiaomi mi A1
PalakMi said:
I have two things to speak about:
1- honor made their devices totally hard to unlock and even harder to recover if bricked, I was wondering why they won't make it easy like Oneplus or Google?!
2- is about EMUI, I want Huawei to leave the lockscreen and notification panel just what Google intended (they can skin it however they)
The way how EMUI handle notification and lockscreen notifications is pretty bad.
I want them to fix these two points, and if they still continue with that.
I'm seriously going to sell my honor 8 and get Xiaomi mi A1
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Absolutely. The notification on lock screen is pretty bad and need to unlock to see them properly
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You said it could come to 5c if there are more requests. How do I request?
arshilhonor6x said:
stock Ui
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I wish for this too but, it's hard for his to ditch EMUI
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You said it could come to 5c if there are more requests. How do I request?
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By filling the form. But as of now, i am sure they will just go to honor 8 apart from 6X and 8 pro. You cam still try
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By filling the form. But as of now, i am sure they will just go to honor 8 apart from 6X and 8 pro. You cam still try
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Sorry which form? Am I being dumb?
I would like to hear recommendations for buying a new mid-range phone (up to 300 euros, but that's not a hard limit). My motivation for running Lineage OS is to have a phone without GApps (no Play store, no GCM, etc.).
I am searching for a phone that is compatible with the recent version of LineageOS. Simple installation would be a plus. But in particular, it would be great if the phone were compatible with future versions of LineageOS. As far as I understand, the latter is hard to predict because vendors are usually not making any commitments.
I must admit that the situation is very confusing to me right now because of the possible decision of skipping Lineage 15 in favor of developing 15.1, but also because I do not know how Spectre/Meltdown mitigation affects current development. I'm hoping that people in this forum have better knowledge and experience to give me some recommendation.
I'm sorry that this is a very general question, but I really do not have very specific needs. I previously had a Fairphone 1. The phone was fine for me, but I was pretty disappointed in the end because OS updates have been announced for a very long time and then they have never been delivered.
Thanks!
Buy a phone with project treble support.
Sebastian K said:
I would like to hear recommendations for buying a new mid-range phone (up to 300 euros, but that's not a hard limit). My motivation for running Lineage OS is to have a phone without GApps (no Play store, no GCM, etc.)...
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Your best bet is to post this question within one of the following threads that is specific to your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Good Luck!
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PLEASE KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE
On Monday I have written a post here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineage-os-18-can-it-enable-infrared-camera.4237717/ but since that forum is more surrounded by regular users, not us homies. Thus I would like to forward it here and ask around expecting some echoes. Anyone interested?
The feature is one of two kinds (another being Poco) and I believe that there won't be another model of OnePlus that would use the same hardware in the future. So I guess it would be interesting if someone could even reverse engineer it from the stock OS and transplant it to lineage or via independent applications.
I understand it is against forum rules to request builds, apologies if this is out of place.
I was misled by the likes of GetDroidTips into thinking there was Lineage OS support for the N10, only to realize the lie when I finally got my device and tried to install TWRP.
Every other Oneplus device has received Lineage OS support, so I expect the N10 will in the future, but I would rather return this phone and purchase another if the build will not be available for many months.
So I hope to learn if there are any current projects to port Lineage to the N10, and if there is a general idea of when it will be available. If there is no plan to support the device in the near future, I will know to return my device.
Regardless, I have used Lineage in the past and I am sure I speak for all of us when I say we are incredibly grateful for all the hard work from the developers. Thank you for your time.