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HTC Restore Problem

Hi guys
I recently factory restored my HTC Desire and the built-in backup prompted me to restore my settings, which I did, but for some reason my SMS messages were not restored.
I checked the SD card, and there is a backup there, but of course the files are encrypted. Is there any way to read these files, or to restore my messaging SMS?
Thanks in advance!

Am I right in saying that the backups's hashes are salted with the device serial #? If that's the case then decryption should be quite possible.

I have had the exact same problem today. Had to return my Desire as it was faulty for a straight swap (kept the same SIM and SD card). The SD card has restored all contacts and music, but SMS messages have not transferred over. I've looked at every possible option in the settings but can't seem to see how to do this.
I'd be grateful for any advice or info. Thankyou.

slightly old thread, but relevant to my problem....
have been playing around a lot with my desire over the past week, and managed to delete the wrong nandroid backup and lost all my sms. I have a sense auto backup form a day or so earlier, but cannot for the life of me get the phone to read these - there's no option to restore just backup.
So, tried factory reset from recovery, copied the 'old' backup to the sd, and booted. Nothing was restored. Have tried all sorts of combos to try and get the backup to be read, but no joy at all. Even completely wiping everything, flashing the original rom i was using (modaco 3.1) and restarting, but still sense doesnt see the backup.
I definitley remember it doing it once during all the crazy rom swopping of the last few days, and the sms, wifi key etc all restored, but I can't get it to do it again.
Any ideas about 'forcing' the restore? I know that the backup is handset specific (tied to the serial/imei?) but it should restore on any rom using sense yeh?
all help greatly appreciated
ta.
another small thought, there may be an app idea in here for anyone thats interested - reading the sense backup and applying it by force? i know quite a few people tend to backup their sd card regularly, so it could be useful as a last resort option.

I guess there's not much I can help you but to avoid this problem in the future you might want to use SMS backup (by Cristoph Studer, there are 2 others on the Market with the same name) - backs up your sms's to your Gmail account, works great. I love the Cloud!

I have used sms backup in the past, didn't bother this time as i had the nandroid backup. Kicking myself as I'm usually pretty careful about what files i'm getting rid of, and have got all my sms for about the last ten yrs (minus the 2 months i just lost) for blackmail purposes time to crank the delete button paranoia up a notch again
edit: solved tok everything off the sd card, made sure i had the backup set from the date range i wanted, wiped absolutely everything from recovery, reflashed the rom i was running when the backup was taken & rebooted. the backup was picked up fine, all settings, sms etc back with no problems.
the small trick to getting this to occur seems to be just let the phone sit for a minute when it reboots - i assume that if you go into the setup wizard before the sd card is correctly moutned and read that you bypass the restore. i had done the same procedure to try to get it to restore before and it didn't, the pause to allow the sd card to be read was the only thing i did differently.

I'm having the same issue, I want to restore a back-up from my SD card, but cannot see any way to do it. I've tried a factory reset, but still no luck.
Can a restore be forced? The 2.2 upgrade seems to have removed Settings>Privacy

Same problem here, Froyo won't restore my backup.
I tried to downgrade to Eclair, but the installation failed with "Error 140: wrong bootloader version".
I guess my backup is pretty useless now...

Frojo wont restore settings after hardreset
I asked HTC about this, and here's the answer:
Thanks for your question regarding backup of your device. The former feature backup to SD card is missing in this newer version. This is due to Google, which has developed backup feature in the software, changed the system in 2.2, then back out to their servers instead. This applies to the Google devices, such as NexusOne. When your device is the HTC brand, we have some backup features as before. However, you can take backup in the following way (as with older versions of Android): Contacts: You can save contacts via Outlook when they are created as telephone contacts. For this you need HTC Sync and Outlook on your computer. HTC Sync, see your device's SD card. To open the map, select Mount in the device, your device is displayed on the computer as an external disk drive. Then you find the program through your computer's Windows Explorer, and also integrates it on your computer. You can now sync. You can also download HTC Sync from our website under Support tab. If you use Google contacts they can be retrieved back when you set up your email again. If you have configured an Exchange server, you can also download contacts onto the device again. Calendar appointments: These are transferred in the same manner as contacts. Emails: These can be synchronized over again through your Exchange server, or if you have Google mail. Data files: These can be transmitted via computer Explorer when you select Mount as previously described. You can then transfer your files to a folder on your computer. SMS and MMS: Those you can not backup.
Blueyed1

Way to go HTC.... hurray
The more I learn about Google and HTC's way of handling my data I get more determined to Root my phone to get full access of my phone, and to control what data and in what way that data is transferred to either google or HTC.
When you compare to the way Apple is controlling it's sheep herd, Google is not any better when it comes to data gathering and data sniping.

Blueyed1 said:
SMS and MMS: Those you can not backup.
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WTF????????????????????????????

DRMON said:
WTF????????????????????????????
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Backup not possible with previeus build in backup, that is..

[Q] Backing up etc

Hi all. Well I've not rooted yet (just not had the time), and have a stock orange UK ROM with the default stuff! I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer to simple backup questions!
I am having the reboot issues (well documented in another thread), and it's getting worse and worse. even to the extent now that it's rebooting after calls (started out when charging using games, then now I cant run navigation for more than 2 minutes).
I have been told to do a factory reset (not a bad idea TBH). But backups is my main concern.
I have my contacts and calendar fine (not an issue), what I am concerned about mainly is my paid for apps. I have just synced with AppBrain, but will this get my paid for apps back?
Also SMS is the other thing I want to backup, I have installed SMS Backup which backs up to an XML file, which I can read. But read that some people have had problems with restoring, is this true? Or can someone recommend a better app? I am not too concerned with settings, as happy to do things slightly differently this time round, so mainly paiud for apps! Also what happens when orange eventaulyl send me a new phone (which seems to be the resoltuion of the paid for apps?)
I will take the SD card out when I factory reset, but what else should I worry about?
Regards, Martin

I have used SMS Backup and it seems to work fine with me. Not sure if it backs up MMS though, but there is a seperate free tool to save the MMS to SDcard available on the market.
As for your paid for apps, they will show up in the Market once you have perfromed a factory reset and you will be able to re-install without having to pay again. Just make sure that you log in using the same credentials.
The backups I perfored prior to rooting were as follows:
1) export contacts to SDCard
2) backup SMS using SMS Backup & Restore
3) Backup call logs using Call Logs Backup and Restore - I wanted to keep these.
A factory reset should not wipe what is currently on your SDCard, but I cannot hurt to copy the contents to your PC/Laptop before doing the reset.

dcnice said:
I have used SMS Backup and it seems to work fine with me. Not sure if it backs up MMS though, but there is a seperate free tool to save the MMS to SDcard available on the market.
As for your paid for apps, they will show up in the Market once you have perfromed a factory reset and you will be able to re-install without having to pay again. Just make sure that you log in using the same credentials.
The backups I perfored prior to rooting were as follows:
1) export contacts to SDCard
2) backup SMS using SMS Backup & Restore
3) Backup call logs using Call Logs Backup and Restore - I wanted to keep these.
A factory reset should not wipe what is currently on your SDCard, but I cannot hurt to copy the contents to your PC/Laptop before doing the reset.
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Thanks for this, yes call logs would be cool too! I'm not too fussed with regards to the settings of the phone, gives me a chance to start over! Im not even that fussed on SMS's nice to have a history they're currently backing up to the google mail thing!
It was the apps I've paid for most concerned for, and yeah sounds good that it's tied to the google account, guess that means if/when I get a new phone they'll just get copied over to the new phone, when orange realise that it needs to be replaced... Pffftt...
Many thanks makes sence now (used to the iTunes/iPhone system! WHich shilst walled, does make some things easy! I PREFER DROID THO!)

OnePlus Switch vs Google backup+restore

I have googled this but not getting a clear answer so hoping someone here can confirm.
I am switching from a OnePlus7T to a Nord and I was just wondering what the best option is for transferring my apps and content etc from 7T to Nord.
Last time I went from OP6 to OP7T I did the google restore on the 7T and then also ran the Switch app.
But I ended with lots of duplicate stuff like contacts and other stuff (can't remember what else was duplicated)
So, should I just install Switch onto the Nord - but don't Google Restore and then just run Switch? Will that do everything?
Or is there a better approach?
With my previous non OnePlus phones I would just use Google and some other SMS + Call History restore app and then do other stuff manually.
Thanks.

Hi harryw66, i think the switch app is the better solution as Google Backup doesn't backup everything.

Thanks - I received the phone earlier today and went the Google router - seems to have backed up most stuff - but not my folders etc - so guess I will have to do them manually - just need to be sure the other stuff does not get duplicated...

harryw66 said:
Thanks - I received the phone earlier today and went the Google router - seems to have backed up most stuff - but not my folders etc - so guess I will have to do them manually - just need to be sure the other stuff does not get duplicated...
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Ok - so it backed up my SMS but not my call logs - weird.

harryw66 said:
Ok - so it backed up my SMS but not my call logs - weird.
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I use..
- SMS Backup & Restore by Sync Tech to backup messages and call logs and it never failed since first use many years ago. Also it has Google Drive backup, auto delete old messages in drive,.. etc.
- SMS organizer by Microsoft as SMS app. It is the best SMS app I used and still using, though it failed a couple of times in backing up the SMSs.
- Titanium Backup to backup all my apps with data daily.
- SyncMe Wireless by bvaisoft for backing up my entire phone contents to my PC after midnight, daily, including Titanium Backup data.
- To clear the storage space taken by Titanium Backup, the Tasker will delete all these contents at early morning.
I've been using these settings for years, though restoring about half number of apps' data didn't work well with Titanium Backup with 7T. So I used OnePlus switch to copy these apps, but without their data.

Thanks - yes I ended up using SMS Backup & Restore by Sync Tech to backup from old phone and restore onto the Nord.
I used to use SMS Backup+ from Jan Berkel with great sucess in the past - but this seems to be broken now due to Google auth changes...
Cheers.

Quick way to back up. If only we could direct this to an OTG?

Droid_Nut said:
Quick way to back up. If only we could direct this to an OTG?
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Into "Switch" app there is an option to do a local backup.
Once done, copy that file to a pendrive.

Pantumaca said:
Into "Switch" app there is an option to do a local backup.
Once done, copy that file to a pendrive.
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I use Titanium Backup, and my files go directly to the OTG. Just how much better of a backup is the one plus switch? Can you incrementally restore apps and data?

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I use Titanium Backup, and my files go directly to the OTG. Just how much better of a backup is the one plus switch? Can you incrementally restore apps and data?
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Sorry, I use Google's backup

OnePlus Switch doesn't backup everything. It didnt back up files in Downloads or documents, unless it was an image, or video.
App Data is random. Works for some apps but not for all.

Question Want to root and unlock - what's the quickest way to get back installed all the apps I currently have?

Question as per title. All my photos, music, videos are cloud based anyway. The only thing I'm concerned about is apps. What's the quickest way to reinstall my apps? Last time I chose to restore from a Google account, it started to install ALL my apps, even ones that weren't installed when I performed the reset (meaning ones I had downloaded but since uninstalled, going back years)

Swift backup

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Swift backup
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Is that similar to Titanium backup? I used to use that long ago but the interface was horrendous and I never took the time to fully understand it. Is it even still actively developed, and worth learning about? Or has Swift superseded it?

If you value your data always back it up redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Cloud apps can fail you miserably. At least use a second backup method is cloud is the primary.
That includes apps. If you don't keep installable copies they may be lost forever or you will be forced to sideload from questionable sources.
Playstore is not a reliable repository.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of apps and updates, load directly from the drive.
You want cross platform installable app copies that you can load on most Android devices not just your current one. Apps are critical data, back them up.
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com

They will be automatically reinstalled if your device is synced to google.
Data and configs are lost though...
If it reinstalled old apps then check if it's properly synced.

fdgfgd said:
They will be automatically reinstalled if your device is synced to google.
Data and configs are lost though...
If it reinstalled old apps then maybe if it's properly synced.
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They might be, but as my OP stated, I've had the situation where it installs more than what was on the device

samwhiteUK said:
They might be, but as my OP stated, I've had the situation where it installs more than what was on the device
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Take direct control. Nothing like a bunch of unwanted app installs/uninstalls to mess up a reload.
With Google you're not the customer, you're the product.

Swift backup worked a charm, thanks everyone

A suggestion I've read in the past, but have not tried myself, is to use OnePlus's app, now Clone Phone, to perform a backup. The file gets placed in internal memory under "opbackup". Copy the file off the phone prior to wiping it. Put the file back afterwards and perform a restore from within Clone Phone.
I cannot speak to if all app settings are restored.

Question Best Backup Solution?

What is the best backup solution that can backup appdata and apps and system settings?

Google backup? I've been wondering this myself, but haven't found anything but Google's backup/restore. :|

For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.

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Google backup? I've been wondering this myself, but haven't found anything but Google's backup/restore. :|
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Google backup doesn't backup all apps just Google apps just tried it.

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For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.
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Thanks will try it out

I bricked/un-bricked my phone last night and successfully restored all apps and data with Migrate (NG version downloaded from their telegram channel). Not sure about system settings... I prefer a clean start with those so I didn't try.

IamTheBRAVE said:
For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.
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Migrate is also a viable solution. I had a problem with their sdcard enabler on another phone so used swiftbackup instead. Very satisfied.

vangry2020 said:
What is the best backup solution that can backup appdata and apps and system settings?
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The best I've seen(must be root) Swift Backup(Google play store). You can back up messages, call logs, and most importantly apps, app data, ext data, system apps, ext data. Awesome app and easy to sync to dropbox, drive, etc.

IamTheBRAVE said:
For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.
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Thanks for this - Question - Can you still get all app & ext data without being rooted? (Yes I'm a root idiot, sorry)!

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Migrate is also a viable solution. I had a problem with their sdcard enabler on another phone so used swiftbackup instead. Very satisfied.
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I had issues with Migrate on an older phone as well (OP 7Pro) , but so far on this phone it has been solid.
Does anyone know of any apps that can do incremental backups of only modified data? I've used Swift Backup but it doesn't seem to be an option. Swift has an option to back up only "updated apps" but I could care less whether the apk was updated... I'd like something that can back up only apps with modified data on a nightly basis, the way I used to do with Titanium Backup on earlier versions of Android.

jprattnu said:
Thanks for this - Question - Can you still get all app & ext data without being rooted? (Yes I'm a root idiot, sorry)!
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No don't think so.

terlynn4 said:
I had issues with Migrate on an older phone as well (OP 7Pro) , but so far on this phone it has been solid.
Does anyone know of any apps that can do incremental backups of only modified data? I've used Swift Backup but it doesn't seem to be an option. Swift has an option to back up only "updated apps" but I could care less whether the apk was updated... I'd like something that can back up only apps with modified data on a nightly basis, the way I used to do with Titanium Backup on earlier versions of Android.
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Did not see any option for that in the app. You can do it manually by renaming theold backup folder and redoing existing backup option. I think that would work.

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Did not see any option for that in the app. You can do it manually by renaming theold backup folder and redoing existing backup option. I think that would work.
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Wouldn't that just back up everything again? Or maybe I don't follow what you mean.

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Wouldn't that just back up everything again? Or maybe I don't follow what you mean.
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Yes, back up everything again but since you rename the old backup folder you end up with 2 incremental backup. At least that how i see it but it would be a pain to do that if you want nighly backups.
The only other idea may be to set a scheduled backup (paid). Just took a look, it say you can have customisable backups in premium (which i don't have) maybe someone can tell us what that contains?

IamTheBRAVE said:
Yes, back up everything again but since you rename the old backup folder you end up with 2 incremental backup. At least that how i see it but it would be a pain to do that if you want nighly backups.
The only other idea may be to set a scheduled backup (paid). Just took a look, it say you can have customisable backups in premium (which i don't have) maybe someone can tell us what that contains?
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You're talking about multiple backups, I'm talking about incremental/differential backups, where only modified data is backed up. The purpose is for smaller size and faster backups so they can be run daily or even multiple times a day. I save my backups to google drive and "all apps" is about 20 GB for me. It's insane to upload that much every single night when most of it hasn't changed, but I want my backups always up to date for the next time my phone is bricked unexpectedly. I do have premium, but the option to back up only modified data isn't there. I'm looking for an app that can do that, like Titanium Backup did flawlessly.