Hi All, it might be a stupid question but A13 upgrade in Pixel 6 Pro is mandatory as system update configuration like monthly security patch? I'm not big fan of A13 and preferring to stay at A12.
I *think* I understand what you're asking, but not positive.
If you're not rooted, you will definitely be eventually receiving the update no matter what. This is true of all OTAs on most every phone. You can disable automatic updates in Developer options, however even then some updates come through anyway. Others have seen it before, and I've seen it again just recently.
If you're rooted, then you might get an annoying message to update, but the update will always fail to install.
I hope that answers your question.
So, you plan on never updating your Pixel 6 Pro again...ever? (unless you like Android 14 or beyond much better)
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I got a popup asking to autoupdate the Samsung security policies. Does anybody know what the Samsung Security Policy updates update? I obviously declined the automatic updates, but was wondering if anybody knows if there are consequences either way.
I'm pretty sure this is Knox related. I've declined it myself only to be asked about a dozen more times since. Seems like it finally gave up though. If anyone else has input, I'd be interesting hearing what they know.
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My thought is to decline but i would be interested in hearing what a developer thinks.
I want to bump this question. I just had a notice to allow security policy updates. The terms and conditions that must be accepted state that the "updates may add new security policies and delete any existing policies, if necessary. The service may detect and delete any downloaded software which contains malware." Since I have a Developer Edition, am rooted and have many apps that have been granted Super User permissions, I'm wondering if these security updates could delete or alter those permissions or otherwise affect root.
I updated it on my rooted dev edition and I've had no ill effects (so far) I know it required a lot of permissions but it's a security update from the manufacturer for god sake. The last thing I wanted was some security policy to go without being updated. Maybe that's my IT mindset. I was less hesitant to install because I already have root, unlocked bootloader, and a backup, so worse case scenario I could have just restored my nand.
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I updated it on my rooted dev edition and I've had no ill effects (so far) I know it required a lot of permissions but it's a security update from the manufacturer for god sake. The last thing I wanted was some security policy to go without being updated. Maybe that's my IT mindset. I was less hesitant to install because I already have root, unlocked bootloader, and a backup, so worse case scenario I could have just restored my nand.
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Agree with this on all points, but, like @GirLuvsDroid said, it sure would be nice to know exactly what these updates are doing.
I have also been declining them, but since you took the plunge for us (and I thank you!) and to your point, that we have backups, I will take it next time.
I have a rooted dev version, and I used Titanium (I bought the premium), and I froze the Knox services, as well as the security policy updates. It stopped the popup and my phone still works fine.
So, I've decided that right now there isn't any hardware out there that is enough of an improvement over the Note3 to get me to upgrade (will wait for SD820-based phones).
Unfortunately since T-Mobile has neglected this phone we are running a year-old version of Android, and thus are vulnerable to all of the fun widely-reported security holes uncovered since then.
From what I've been reading all AOSP-based ROMs seem to be dealing with NFC/sensor fusion issues (CM has open bugs for both issues).
My question right now is: is there anything available for the Note 3 that would allow it to have the latest security fixes without having to deal with other major issues like the ones I mentioned above?
I don't really even care about having 5.1, I just want my phone to be more secure.
I'm with you about new phones and actually dislike Note 5 (no SD, non removable battery etc. WTF Samsung, if I wanted iphone I would get one). As far as I know the stagefright is the only major issue on the system level, otherwise chrome bug for example should be fixed with chrome update and other stuff should be easy to avoid as long as normal precautions are followed (installing apps from Play store only for example). But I think even stagefright bug was little overblown. My understanding is Android has ASLR (random address space allocation) so buffer overflow bug is difficult to take advantage off, since the hackers don't know where in memory needed functions are located, so even with the bug, Note 3 should be relatively safe. I updated my wife's GS5 to latest Lollipop: she hates it, I don't like it much either , so not having latest operating software is not a problem for me. Bottom line I don't worry about it too much, I just scan my phone with antivirus and all it can find is that my phone is rooted, like I didn't know that already. I'm running stock, since I can't find custom ROM that has all functions enabled, like WIFI calling, NFC etc. There was some talk of monthly security updates for Android, like Windows have, but with Google, phone makers and carriers all involved, I doubt it will happen soon.
Has anyone gotten the notification for enhanced features from Android Messages yet? I'm on t-mobile and from what I've read I should already be seeing it. Just updated to 5.1.4 & rooted with magisk but I still don't have the option. Can't find enough forum posts to determine where the problem lies. Seeing a few posts in the OP6 forum saying its a OnePlus problem, others thinking its carrier related.
I'm afraid it might be carrier related... It was working on an old phone of mine (Moto X2) and it works on my wife's current phone (Huawei P10) both of which are devices that were available through the carrier. Coincidence?
I had a OP5T and now a OP6, RCS is not available on either.
I don't think it's a Google/software thing, otherwise I feel like there would have been evidence of this in the app tear down, and likely a work around.
Given the lack of info, it's most likely controlled server side by the ISPs, that's my guess. And if that's the case, I don't expect anything to change soon.
If it is something on Google's end, hopefully with OnePlus joining project treble OP devices will get cleared for RCS.
Let me know if you hear anything.
Cheers,
Ryan
Got a notification last night from the Messages app, RCS/Advanced Chat features were finally enabled for me! Stoked.
Im on CNP and I also got the notification last night it just seems like the activation wont actually work. Always stuck on "Excuse the wait"
Totally satisfied with 11.2.9.9 and wish to disable updates for good-ish. I did this on my Pixel 3XL and needed to jump through some hoops to stop the insistent nag pop up but got it done with help from XDA good guys. Like the Pixel, the notification does not allow to be silenced or disabled so need to dig deeper. I don't want to delete or uninstall the updater service but am open to freezing it if that won't cause any other issues. I'm rooted of course. Help would be appreciated, Thanks
I'm not sure turning down the already sporadic security patches released for Android phones is a good idea to start with, refusing them while rooted is an even worse plan.
With prevalent betaware updates makes sense for some to stay stable for once AFWall+
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With prevalent betaware updates makes sense for some to stay stable for once AFWall+
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That would be reasonable if the betas weren't explicitly opt-in. Blocking consumer release updates is an entirely different kettle of fish.
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With prevalent betaware updates makes sense for some to stay stable for once AFWall+
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Nailed it Mr Vision -
My phone is 90% de-googled so my biggest security risk has been neutralized.
I usually freeze the update service app in between updates to avoid the nagging while I'm waiting on a full zip to be released, or if it's just an inconvenient time for me to mess with it. It has never caused any issues other than the obvious: if you try to select System Update from Settings while frozen it will force close. Just unfreeze the update service when you're ready to update.
That said, I'm in agreement with other folks who say not taking security updates on a rooted device "ever" is generally a bad idea. New kernel exploits are discovered all the time, and plenty of core system packages have the potential for vulnerabilities.
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I usually freeze the update service app in between updates to avoid the nagging while I'm waiting on a full zip to be released, or if it's just an inconvenient time for me to mess with it. It has never caused any issues other than the obvious: if you try to select System Update from Settings while frozen it will force close. Just unfreeze the update service when you're ready to update.
That said, I'm in agreement with other folks who say not taking security updates on a rooted device "ever" is generally a bad idea. New kernel exploits are discovered all the time, and plenty of core system packages have the potential for vulnerabilities.
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Thanks.
I would keep my phone updated but the ColorOS 12 update pretty much ruined the perfect experience. I'll update in a few months. Hopefully, they'll fix all the issues by then.
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"I usually freeze the update service app in between updates to avoid the nagging while I'm waiting on a full zip to be released, "
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Yes thanks for the reminder this is possible. I went ahead and froze com.oneplus.opbackup. My setup is safely locked in until I decide it needs to be changed!
Maybe some folks from this thread will see my thread lol and rethink the early adopter or as I like to call it, guinea pig strategy.
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Besides the general low quality of this piece of software, here are some specific pains: 1. SafetyNet test fails (no root) - WTF? Can't use any of my work applications because of that. 2. Status bar notification icons don't appear (except for...
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Just use a package disabler, a ADB edit or if your rooted you have even more apps to block OTA updates.
Security in real life isn't an issue with Android 9 or higher unless you do something stupid. This stock N10+ has been running on Android 9 for over 2 years with no updates.
The current OS load is over 1.5 yo, still fast, stable with minimum maintenance. I take a few precautions especially with app installations and downloads. Android 9 and higher are reasonably secure even if Google claims otherwise.
So enjoy your current platform for as long as you want. Don't let updates break your phone... they sure as hell can and do.
Redundantly backup all critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Time stagger backups to them incrementally as an added precaution. Have a plan in place for password resets and bank accounts (which are insured from fraud anyway).
In the case of malware if you can't completely isolate and delete it within an hour or two, go full nuke and reload. It takes far less time to reload then it does to attempt to optimize and adapt to a new OS version.
Fools leave in fear, pragmatists live within reality.
Don't ever update to Android 12 then. Remember, you have been warned. No matter what, stay on Oxygen 11
@blackhawk - Yeah I really like App Manager does all you say plus a whole lot more.
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Both you guys, EXACTLY! Ran Android 9 for 3 years on my rooted Pixel 3XL, no updates past 9/19 no issues no regrets.
11.2.10.10 is safe. But I dont update to A12 soon.
You can disable the updates very easy.
1st: Settings -> System -> System Updates -> Top right the gear -> Disable Auto download over Wifi
2nd: Settings -> System -> Dev. Options -> Disable "Automatic system updates"
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11.2.10.10 is safe. But I dont update to A12 soon.
You can disable the updates very easy.
1st: Settings -> System -> System Updates -> Top right the gear -> Disable Auto download over Wifi
2nd: Settings -> System -> Dev. Options -> Disable "Automatic system updates"
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See the thing is this doesn't stop the random often reoccurring pop-up nag that prompts to download the update. The fear there is the potential for an accidental tap. I don't want the giant update file hanging out on my phone ready to spring into gear at the slightest wrong move on my part. Maybe the tap would be interpreted by the phone as an overide to the 'disable' option selected in Dev Options. Don't know, don't want to find out.
Then use a fire wall and allow apps you want. I never got a update notification since I have the phone. I always updated it by myself.
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See the thing is this doesn't stop the random often reoccurring pop-up nag that prompts to download the update. The fear there is the potential for an accidental tap. I don't want the giant update file hanging out on my phone ready to spring into gear at the slightest wrong move on my part. Maybe the tap would be interpreted by the phone as an overide to the 'disable' option selected in Dev Options. Don't know, don't want to find out.
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Use service disabler from playstore to disable system updater(requires root)
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Yes thanks for the reminder this is possible. I went ahead and froze com.oneplus.opbackup. My setup is safely locked in until I decide it needs to be changed!
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Yes goofy to quote myself but wanted to post an update that sadly this only worked for about a month then the nags returned even though the com.oneplus.opbackup service was frozen. Getting the system update nags every other day after they stopped for a month. Gotta figure this out, I'm sure that sinister google has their hand in this someway!
Hello!
I just got an email from my very large company's IT department saying that I will no longer be able to use my google workplace apps because I my S9 has Android 10 and they no longer compare security patches.
The problem is that I've been waiting until the S23 comes out in January or February. I'm not experienced with flashing rooms etc., but can follow most instructions. Is there a way to put Android 11 (or later) on my phone without losing all my data/settings/apps or somehow fake that I have the update until the new phone comes out? Many thanks in advance.