Last week I updated my OP9 Pro to the latest version c61. Everything works fine, but the Photos App is basically useless.
What I mean by this is when I go into the Photos App everything is "blank". When I go into file explorer and go into the DCIM of pictures folders I have I can view the thumbnail and even open up any image and view it, but if I try directly from the Photo's app it's just showing like a blank transparent black box.
I have a 2 part question.
1. Has anyone experienced this before, and if so, how did you fix it? I really don't want to wipe my entire phone because everything else works fine.
By the way I tried clearing cache storage for the app under app info and tried disabling, rebooting my phone and reenabling and no luck.
2. What is a good Photo's/Gallery replacement app to the stock one?
A few features that I would like if possible:
No ads
minimal/simple functionality (I don't really care about extensive photo editing. Really just cropping and flipping photos if necessary)
If you can hide certain gals that a plus, but not necessary
A lot of the replacement gallery/photo apps I have seen have a lot of ads and I don't want to deal with that.
Thanks in advance!
Hi, whilst I've never experienced the issue you have in question 1, have you tried to add an album? When you take a photo on your phone camera does that appear? ( Both in the camera and your gallery) as for an alternative I personally use Google photos as it just works.
Thanks for your response and sorry for the delayed response. It's a really odd glitch.
If I take a picture and open it at that moment it will display fine. Also if I go into a file manager and open it I can view it fine. But if I go into my photos app it's blank. I ended up downloading a couple other photo apps and they open up all my media fine without any issues. It's a really bazaar glitch but seems to only be with the oneplus photo app with the newest c61 update.
I'm not sure if I can remove the stock photo app from my phone because I believe it's a system app and the only option I have is to disable it, but I was thinking of trying to remove it from my phone and reinstalling it from scratch.
m0d hipp¥ said:
Last week I updated my OP9 Pro to the latest version c61. Everything works fine, but the Photos App is basically useless.
What I mean by this is when I go into the Photos App everything is "blank". When I go into file explorer and go into the DCIM of pictures folders I have I can view the thumbnail and even open up any image and view it, but if I try directly from the Photo's app it's just showing like a blank transparent black box.
I have a 2 part question.
1. Has anyone experienced this before, and if so, how did you fix it? I really don't want to wipe my entire phone because everything else works fine.
By the way I tried clearing cache storage for the app under app info and tried disabling, rebooting my phone and reenabling and no luck.
2. What is a good Photo's/Gallery replacement app to the stock one?
A few features that I would like if possible:
No ads
minimal/simple functionality (I don't really care about extensive photo editing. Really just cropping and flipping photos if necessary)
If you can hide certain gals that a plus, but not necessary
A lot of the replacement gallery/photo apps I have seen have a lot of ads and I don't want to deal with that.
Thanks in advance!
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did you already clear cache and storage of the app?
maybe you denied a required access right by accident?
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did you already clear cache and storage of the app?
maybe you denied a required access right by accident?
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Yes I did that and also checked to make sure all proper permissions were granted.
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Yes I did that and also checked to make sure all proper permissions were granted.
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strange.
I mostly use the google photos app. not sure if this is an option for you, but it should check all the marks from the initial post.
Thanks, I should look at it. I'm not sure if google photos backsup your stuff by default, or you can just turn off that feature. I feel like with that feature enabled I would quickly run out of the limited space google gives you as it is so you would be forced to upgrade to get more space.
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Thanks, I should look at it. I'm not sure if google photos backsup your stuff by default, or you can just turn off that feature. I feel like with that feature enabled I would quickly run out of the limited space google gives you as it is so you would be forced to upgrade to get more space.
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I think it is turned off by default or at least asks you.
but you can definetly turn the backup off manually.
it gives you 15gb incl. shared between google drive, gmail and photos I think.
for me this is still enough, but I also backup at my home cloud.
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Well, I flashed latest Cyanogen mod, but then I found some problems with the phone. I'm not sure if it's really Cyanogen or something else, that's why I'm asking here.
Now, I always liked the default camera that comes with the phone, but this time, I can't find the timer on it. I have checked every single option and - nothing.
I figured that I might try some other camera apps, so far: Camera360, Camera Advance, Camera ZOOM FX and Vignette, they all work fine, but when it comes to saving pictures, nothing happens. I'm using some 3D gallery app, which comes with Cyanogen, I'm not sure what it's called, but it's fairly popular.
Any solution to this?
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Well, I flashed latest Cyanogen mod, but then I found some problems with the phone. I'm not sure if it's really Cyanogen or something else, that's why I'm asking here. Now, I always liked the default camera that comes with the phone, but this time, I can't find the timer on it. I have checked every single option and - nothing.
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Appreciate your reasoning but please don't cross post (same question in multiple forums / threads).
Nebell said:
I figured that I might try some other camera apps, so far: Camera360, Camera Advance, Camera ZOOM FX and Vignette, they all work fine, but when it comes to saving pictures, nothing happens.
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You mean the picture is taken ok but are not being saved? Have you used a file manager or pc to check the DCIM folder on the SD Card? This is a very unique issue and not specific to the camera apps or the ROM. Let me know re above.
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I'm using some 3D gallery app, which comes with Cyanogen, I'm not sure what it's called, but it's fairly popular.
Any solution to this?
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The Gallery 3D app is native to Android. It won't be responsible for the issues.
Sorry for late reply. Yes, the images are shown in gallery, it just reports location as unknown and when I check SD card (I have checked every folder) there are no pictures (even the newly created folders after I change save path) are not shown.
However, after you mentioned that I should check with file manager, I did so and I can see the pictures. But still, nothing on SD card, so I can't access them. I even tried sharing them on Facebook and sending g to my email then downloading, they show up in the gallery but not on SD card when I access it via PC.
What is causing this? PC issue?
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Is anyone else having issues with the gallery and looking thru pics? Mine is REALLY slow and unresponsive. Often FC's bc of unresponsiveness. If I clear cache it works fine the next launch, but after that its the same thing. Other than that everything is super smooth and fast.
Anyone else with this issue??
Thanks
No issue with my gallery. Everything is working fine.
Jerry D said:
No issue with my gallery. Everything is working fine.
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Oh ok. Thanks for the reply. Might have to take it back and exchange it.
Same here, I thought it was cause the fb and drop box sync too
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teshxx said:
Is anyone else having issues with the gallery and looking thru pics? Mine is REALLY slow and unresponsive. Often FC's bc of unresponsiveness. If I clear cache it works fine the next launch, but after that its the same thing. Other than that everything is super smooth and fast.
Anyone else with this issue??
Thanks
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I had this issue after I rooted the phone and deleted some bloatwares. Gallery was working fine until I deleted something. Don't remember what bloatwares I deleted though. So I installed custom rom and gallery working perfect again. Must be some kind of bloatwares I deleted that messed up the gallery.
I had the same issue even from stock everything when i first put in my sdcard. There was a few corrupted pictures which was making the gallery not load anything right.
Gallery issue
I discovered the issue: in Gallery menu, choose View by, and choose Content in device. The gallery works normally after that.
The problem is that when you close the gallery and reopens you have to do the same. The Gallery doesn't keep the setting...
Does anybody know how to do keep the setting permanently?
Sorry for bad english.
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I discovered the issue: in Gallery menu, choose View by, and choose Content in device. The gallery works normally after that.
The problem is that when you close the gallery and reopens you have to do the same. The Gallery doesn't keep the setting...
Does anybody know how to do keep the setting permanently?
Sorry for bad english.
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Yea. I am aware of that. I couldn't find a resolution, so downloaded "Quickpic" from play store. It's an alternate gallery and is free. Works like a charm.
I can't believe Samsung/Tmobile doesn't check these things.
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The only issues I have is that it won't sync my Google+ photo albums, even though it's setup to do so.
I had issues like this before on the GS2 and a few times when I first got my GN2. The GN2 was right out of the box and it loaded up gallery really slow and lagging, until the point where the gallery give my a GALLERY NOT RESPONDING message. I found out that the photos that lag, take forever to load or doesnt load at all are the ones on my external SD card. I tried to add more photos to the External SD to see what happen and most of the time not all the photos copy over and errors with the card. I did a SD card format using the phone and put all the photos back on, it works just fine now. No more lag, no more errors and photos are loading fast. If youre also using external SD to store your photos like me, then maybe this is the same problem you're having, but if you're on an internal memory storage then I dont know. =) Just a memory card issue and require quick format for me.
The Android Gallery app data (Settings/Device Storage/Applications/Gallery/Data) in our GN8 keeps growing. It gets about 50Mb larger each time the tab is turned on or restarted. It doesn't grow while the tablet or Gallery application is in use and overall data usage doesn't increase either.
Here's what I've found...so far:
* Wi-Fi data consumption does not increase. This would be important if this were happening on a smartphone...3G or 4G data cap considerations.
* Sync is turned OFF...everywhere. All syncs are turned off for Google and Samsung accounts, email, internet, etc.
* Google+ and Picassa apps have been turned OFF. Accounts were never created for either one.
* The only Gallery settings (Wi-Fi OFF) are for Tag Buddy and Face Tag. Both have been turned OFF.
* Clearing the Gallery data starts the process all over again. Each subsequent cold boot or restart of the tab results in about a 50Mb increase of the Gallery data...NOT Wi-Fi data consumption. Clearing the Gallery data also resets Tab Buddy and Face Tag settings to default.
I'm starting to think this is some sort of Google-related Gallery pix auto-backup feature. But considering those apps that may be affected by syncing or backing-up of photos are turned OFF, why is this happening at all???
If this behavior is not normal (as designed), how can it be stopped/prevented?
Any advice or recommendations are greatly appreciated.
What exactly do you mean?
As in you clear data then restart the tablet and 50 MB appears? Every time you restart, so just to understand 0 data .... restart 50MB.... restart then 50 + 50 =100 and adding 50MB every restart?
As far as Google+ account goes I believe this is done automatically.
Check out these sites.
http://www.iwebsoftsolution.com/thr...ur-android-gallery-app-is-using-so-much-data/
http://lifehacker.com/disable-google-photo-sync-to-clean-up-your-gallery-app-1148620893
http://android.appstorm.net/how-to/internet/how-to-remove-picasa-albums-from-your-gallery/
Hoping this helps
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EnzoS. said:
The Android Gallery app data (Settings/Device Storage/Applications/Gallery/Data) in our GN8 keeps growing. It gets about 50Mb larger each time the tab is turned on or restarted. It doesn't grow while the tablet or Gallery application is in use and overall data usage doesn't increase either.
Here's what I've found...so far:
* Wi-Fi data consumption does not increase. This would be important if this were happening on a smartphone...3G or 4G data cap considerations.
* Sync is turned OFF...everywhere. All syncs are turned off for Google and Samsung accounts, email, internet, etc.
* Google+ and Picassa apps have been turned OFF. Accounts were never created for either one.
* The only Gallery settings (Wi-Fi OFF) are for Tag Buddy and Face Tag. Both have been turned OFF.
* Clearing the Gallery data starts the process all over again. Each subsequent cold boot or restart of the tab results in about a 50Mb increase of the Gallery data...NOT Wi-Fi data consumption. Clearing the Gallery data also resets Tab Buddy and Face Tag settings to default.
I'm starting to think this is some sort of Google-related Gallery pix auto-backup feature. But considering those apps that may be affected by syncing or backing-up of photos are turned OFF, why is this happening at all???
If this behavior is not normal (as designed), how can it be stopped/prevented?
Any advice or recommendations are greatly appreciated.
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I replied to your earlier thread... My fix works well and cleared up the index cache with images.
Harjan112 said in a previous post:
What exactly do you mean? As in you clear data then restart the tablet and 50 MB appears? Every time you restart, so just to understand 0 data .... restart 50MB.... restart then 50 + 50 =100 and adding 50MB every restart?
Yup...that's exactly what's happening. At one time, the data size increased by about 50Mb each time the tab was started, restarted, rebooted. The "50Mb" number changes with the size of the Gallery. That is, if the Gallery has a ton of pictures in it, that 50Mb might be considerably larger. If the Gallery is reduced in number of images, the "add on" data level might be proportionally smaller. Yes, if the data is cleared and starts at 0 (zero), each successive start or restart increases the size of that data that is reported. I have never let the data increase go for any length of time to see if it eventually stops at the byte size of all images in the gallery. From what I can see, it can keep growing indefinitely. Driving me nuts.
I haven't taken the time to review the sites you included but I'll do that right now.
I might add at this time that the tablet IS NOT ROOTED. Consequently, other recommended "fixes" or installed apps could not be considered.
One other thing: we do not have a Google+ account. As a result, Google+ is not used and has been turned off.
Once again, thank you very much for following through with this.
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One other thing: we do not have a Google+ account. As a result, Google+ is not used and has been turned off.
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This quite frankly all depends off when you made the Google account, because Google started cramming Google+ down the throats of people that made new account and were not aware of this happening, same goes for me I never signed up for Google+ but when I looked to figure out the problem you are having I came to the conclusion that I had to my surprise Google+
I would go thru every setting/option in your Google account just to make sure.
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This quite frankly all depends off when you made the Google account, because Google started cramming Google+ down the throats of people that made new account and were not aware of this happening, same goes for me I never signed up for Google+ but when I looked to figure out the problem you are having I came to the conclusion that I had to my surprise Google+
I would go thru every setting/option in your Google account just to make sure.
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You might be on to something. We bought the tab in July (2013) equipped with Android 4.1.2 and setup the Google account upon initial startup. A few months later, the 4.2.2 upgrade was crammed down my throat then I started noticing the strange/weird stuff. If my memory is correct, stuff relative to Google+ and Picasa started showing up. Picasa, in particular came up as one of the choices when selecting wallpaper along with the Gallery choices. About that time, I turned off Google+ and Picasa having never setup accounts for either one of them.
Being an Android novice, I started thinking that even though I dropped both Google+ and Picasa they might have retained their default settings that may to this day be affecting how the Gallery works. That being said, keep in mind that I have never seen any spike in Wi-Fi data usage which would have (IMO) indicated the Gallery might be trying to upload pictures to online accounts (Google+ and/or Picasa). The only thing that keeps getting bigger is: Settings > Applications manager > All > Gallery > Data. I believe that some sort of unnecessary caching is going on and I have no idea where the files that are being created are being stored (not rooted).
I made sure that the Google account has EVERYTHING sync-associated (all check boxes) UNCHECKED...from day one. I've seen in more than one forum that there should have been a box to check/uncheck within the Google account settings for syncing pictures. Those suggestions might be for certain Samsung/Android cellphones. On our Note 8.0 there is no such box.
I'm sure I've left out some details but you've been really good at prying information out of me so I'm hoping you have more questions.
So...what do you think? Could the Google+ and/or Picasa accounts been setup without my knowledge? If so, should I go into them and turn everything off or has turning them off already done all that for me?
I'm starting to confuse myself.
EnzoS
EnzoS. said:
I believe that some sort of unnecessary caching is going on and I have no idea where the files that are being created are being stored (not rooted).
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Gallery caches & thumbnails can be found here "../mnt/sdcard/Android/data/com.sec.android.gallery3d" in My files.
Some folders like will be hidden.
So, change settings in your file manager or in system to display hidden files & folders.
As you suggested, I would indeed just try to log into Google+ and make sure everything is off/disabled, once you are sure disable Google+, and for picassa do the same procedure.
Also take a look at this site http://marcwillmore.com/2013/04/24/...d-albums-from-your-android-jellybean-gallery/ especially the part about "Cloud agent"
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@ EnzoS if everything else fails, go to your settings... gallery ... clear data and cache, then turn it off.
After you've done that go to the play store and get Quickpic that is IMO about the best gallery replacement that's out there and best off all it's FREE and AD FREE.
Here's a direct link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder
Hoping it helps
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Harjan112 said:
@ EnzoS if everything else fails, go to your settings... gallery ... clear data and cache, then turn it off.
After you've done that go to the play store and get Quickpic that is IMO about the best gallery replacement that's out there and best off all it's FREE and AD FREE.
Here's a direct link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder
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Harjan112: Thank you again for your suggestion. My next step will be exactly as you described. I've heard nothing negative about QuickPic and I can't wait to try it out. I do have one concern, however. I read somewhere, and I think it was in a not-so-recent post that warned about some form of conflict with the tab's camera. I think it said that if the stock Gallery was not available to view a recently-taken picture by tapping the little thumbnail in the lower-right corner of the camera UI, there was no way to quickly view a snapshot because this function might be tied exclusively to the stock Gallery. Have you heard anything in this regard or has the current version of QuickPic overcome this issue?
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I think it said that if the stock Gallery was not available to view a recently-taken picture by tapping the little thumbnail in the lower-right corner of the camera UI, there was no way to quickly view a snapshot because this function might be tied exclusively to the stock Gallery.
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This is correct, I guess that would be the only downfall.
Check out this camera app that could replace the stock camera, it does have the preview window and you can choose what app you want to use for previewing the pictures.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam
Hoping this helps
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Harjan112: Thank you again for your suggestion. My next step will be exactly as you described. I've heard nothing negative about QuickPic and I can't wait to try it out. I do have one concern, however. I read somewhere, and I think it was in a not-so-recent post that warned about some form of conflict with the tab's camera. I think it said that if the stock Gallery was not available to view a recently-taken picture by tapping the little thumbnail in the lower-right corner of the camera UI, there was no way to quickly view a snapshot because this function might be tied exclusively to the stock Gallery. Have you heard anything in this regard or has the current version of QuickPic overcome this issue?
EnzoS
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Well, I gave quickpic a try, still like the Gallery app the best on a tablet. The only way your going to be happy is to root and setup exposed with wanam module at the very minimum. I know, you do not want to void warranty, but you can root without flashing, and completely remove it as well.
Also, quickpic does create some sort of cache, though you can adjust what cache you want to some degree.
I did a side by side comparison with quickness and use, in some ways quickpic seems easier at finding what you want quickly, but the way I organized my media on SD and setup paths to point to them properly, makes both near equals. Though Gallery is faster at bringing up images when quickly scrolling, while both have caching disabled.
Not that I am pro Gallery, just I feel I am going backwards with non-tablet apps over stock.
If I were constantly battling over 500MB of cached images, which can be easily done if left stock, I would lean towards rooting over dealing with app shortcomings.
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Well, I gave quickpic a try, still like the Gallery app the best on a tablet. The only way your going to be happy is to root and setup exposed with wanam module at the very minimum. I know, you do not want to void warranty, but you can root without flashing, and completely remove it as well.
Also, quickpic does create some sort of cache, though you can adjust what cache you want to some degree.
I did a side by side comparison with quickness and use, in some ways quickpic seems easier at finding what you want quickly, but the way I organized my media on SD and setup paths to point to them properly, makes both near equals. Though Gallery is faster at bringing up images when quickly scrolling, while both have caching disabled.
Not that I am pro Gallery, just I feel I am going backwards with non-tablet apps over stock.
If I were constantly battling over 500MB of cached images, which can be easily done if left stock, I would lean towards rooting over dealing with app shortcomings.
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It's good to hear that you actually have experience with the app in question. So many forum responders have never even used a particular app or have encountered various issues but have opinions and recommendations anyway.
WRT my acceptance of the tab's performance, that's what I was initially looking to find out. Is this phenomenon of the Gallery's data "bloat" what is expected to be happening or do we have a problem that should be fixed? I believe you are saying that this is normal behavior. If so, I'm good with that and will periodically take steps to clean it up...as I have been doing for many months now. If this is not normal, that is, the size of the "data" should reach a plateau and stop growing, I want to do something about it. Otherwise, I'd be perfectly happy to accept it as SOP and move on. No need to go nuts over a non-issue (ha).
Like you, I'd prefer to use the apps that came with the device rather than be constantly looking for something that might be superior to or offer a couple more insignificant features. Although we don't like what they did with the appearance of the Gallery app when the 4.2.2 upgrade was forced down our throats, we're perfectly happy with the way it performs. We don't need anything capable of graphic manipulations on an 8" tablet that the wife uses primarily to play off-line games and to periodically check the weather radar and email. We're in our 60s and don't need another play toy (ha). When we need to perform any high intensity graphics or audio editing, we use the PC with a 22" HD monitor.
One last thing: please check out the screen dump I attached. So there's no more confusion, I have pointed to the reading on the Application Manager screen for the Gallery app that grows every time the tab is started or restarted. I trust we're on the same page with all this.
Very best...
EnzoS
I am actually using both apps I suggested here and not just put it on here without thinking that it might help you.
I hope you figure out what's wrong.
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I got it that you're using both the apps. Actually, that's probably the only way to see if it's gonna make a difference. I would never suggest that you're making a recommendation without actually thinking (knowing) that it would help the issue.
So...can I assume that you believe there is actually something wrong here or am I just complaining about something that is working properly but not necessarily up to my expectations? If this is the way it's supposed to work, I'm good with it. I'll leave it alone and go on to something new.
Were you able to view the image I attached?
What say you...oh wise one?
EnzoS
Where are the pictures located (internal or external SD card) and how many pictures are we talking?
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Everything is on internal SD. As an experiment, I took the number of pictures down to under 10. Right now, I loaded it up to 239 in 5 separate directories...EVERYTHING in the "Pictures" directory.
I just did a little experiment myself and transferred my pictures from my Note2 to my Note8, 600 some pics on external 64GB SD card, then turned my gallery back on to see what would happen here are some screenshots
Then did a restart
As you can see gallery data goes up but on quickpic it stays the same.
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Hi
I have the same problem but with a huge space 51 GB !!!!
And Google photos sync is off.
But also with this I still can install or uninstall apps without any problems.
I am using x note rom v5
am2010r said:
I have the same problem but with a huge space 51 GB !!!!
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Something doesn't look right at all.
The Note8 comes only in 2 "flavors" 16 or 32 GB internal memory!!!
Something is reporting the size wrong.
You could always give quickpic a try and see what happens.
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I just did a little experiment myself and transferred my pictures from my Note2 to my Note8, 600 some pics on external 64GB SD card, then turned my gallery back on to see what would happen here are some screenshots
Then did a restart
As you can see gallery data goes up but on quickpic it stays the same.
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It looks as though our conversation has attracted (finally) others who might be having the same problem. Thank you for your 2 cents am2010r.
Harjan112: Is it correct that you loaded your Note 8.0 with a bunch more pictures, checked the "data" reading, it was 14.73, then you rebooted and it was 38.50??? If that's the case, it appears that yours is doing what mine is doing: the "data" reading increases (at whatever increment the system wants to) upon each boot/reboot.
If that's the case then I have to assume the system wants to do that and I'll accept it and move on.
Of course, I thank you very much for taking all your time to help me unravel this.
EnzoS
Hello, I recently got a Nexus 5X and am wondering what is the best way to copy all my pictures from my Nexus 5. I've tried dragging them off and pasting them onto the new phone, which does work, but the order gets all screwed up and the time created of each file is not preserved. Is there a way to copy pictures (and perhaps other files) while keeping the original timestamps?
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Hello, I recently got a Nexus 5X and am wondering what is the best way to copy all my pictures from my Nexus 5. I've tried dragging them off and pasting them onto the new phone, which does work, but the order gets all screwed up and the time created of each file is not preserved. Is there a way to copy pictures (and perhaps other files) while keeping the original timestamps?
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unless you use a very wierd camera or gallery app they should stay in order, since the original timestamp is usually included in the files name. for example 'IMG_20160616_103711.jpg' was taken on 16.6.2016 at 10:37:11. so as long as they are sorted by name the files in this case (stock camera) stay in order.
does the stock photos app sort by name? i haven't been able to make that happen, or find that option.. seems just like it's random? maybe i can just delete everything and reimport while in airplane mode or something so there are no interruptions?
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does the stock photos app sort by name? i haven't been able to make that happen, or find that option.. seems just like it's random? maybe i can just delete everything and reimport while in airplane mode or something so there are no interruptions?
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google photos gets instantly deactivated on all of my devices, so i am not sure on that front. it should at the very least be able to sort photos by name or the dateincludet in the images metadata (not the 'last changed' stat) though.
oh ok.. what photo app do you use then? I personally dont like the Google Photos app either, I prefer the old gallery app. Also, thanks for chiming in here!
leaveone said:
oh ok.. what photo app do you use then? I personally dont like the Google Photos app either, I prefer the old gallery app. Also, thanks for chiming in here!
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after quickpic became infested and testing out alternatives like focus, i settled for Piktures which does all the things i want from it, although i had to spend some time in the settings. so far i haven't heard anything negativ either.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.diune.pictures
I discovered something, maybe someone is interested, so I'll write it briefly.
If you take a picture with the camera (whatever else, right) and then look at it in the gallery, it is cached as a preview. If you delete it, it is gone in the gallery and if you then empty the trash, it is not saved anywhere (is temporarily saved in /storage/emulated/0/MIUI/Gallery/cloud/.trahsbin). Nothing new so far.
But: if you look under /storage/emulated/0/Android/data/com.miui.gallery/gallery_disk_cache/full_size or small_size, you can still see the smaller pictures, so to speak the small preview pictures in the gallery (you can rename the .0 to .jpg). Even the oldest ones that have been made and deleted long time ago were there, just smaller (less than 1MB), but they are there and take up memory. Even a restart does not delete them. I don't know if there is any limit and if it will not be erased at some point. Otherwise it is just a kind of second backup or the memory will run out at some point in the case of frequent photographers or video takers. The security tool did not remove them when you tried to use the cleaner tool. At least in my case it didn't.
I've just looked and yes they are all there - This is a huge security issue in my opinion
That's unfortunately quite standard way for many apps which cache picture files for faster viewing, previews mostly will not get deleted automatically. App can store such previews as cache or app data, so to remove previews you need to clean corresponding category. For MIUI gallery it would be app data.
If you are concerned about storage use, clean data every now and then. If you are concerned about security - don't use your phone to take sensitive pictures.
_mysiak_ said:
That's unfortunately quite standard way for many apps which cache picture files for faster viewing, previews mostly will not get deleted automatically. App can store such previews as cache or app data, so to remove previews you need to clean corresponding category. For MIUI gallery it would be app data.
If you are concerned about storage use, clean data every now and then. If you are concerned about security - don't use your phone to take sensitive pictures.
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I disagree with this comment for a few reasons
1- There is no option to clear data of the MIUI gallery app. It only allows you to clear cache
2 - This only effects pictures taken with the stock camera app. If you use a 3rd party camera app & a different gallery app it doesn't happen (I've checked their data folders too)
3 - Define sensitive image. In my opinion any image I take is sensitive if I don't intend to share it with anyone regardless of what the image actually is. If I delete the image it should be deleted & not stored in data of the stock gallery apps data
TheFixItMan said:
I disagree with this comment for a few reasons
1- There is no option to clear data of the MIUI gallery app. It only allows you to clear cache
2 - This only effects pictures taken with the stock camera app. If you use a 3rd party camera app & a different gallery app it doesn't happen (I've checked their data folders too)
3 - Define sensitive image. In my opinion any image I take is sensitive if I don't intend to share it with anyone regardless of what the image actually is. If I delete the image it should be deleted & not stored in data of the stock gallery apps data
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1. you are right, but with root access it can be done easily directly or through another app. I suppose that "MIUI optimizations" are blocking "clean data" button.
2. it happens with Simple gallery app, Total commander, Quickpic,.. Some apps store data in cache, others store them as app data. It doesn't matter if you use stock or 3rd party camera app. As soon as you open MIUI gallery or another gallery app (or allow them to be always running and scanning storage for new pictures), it generates a preview and keeps it for a future use.
3. yes I agree, but you unfortunately can't rely on this assumption. Any app with access to storage area should be considered as a source of potential data leak.
I am not defending MIUI apps (I avoid them like plague), just wanted to highlight that it's not the only app with such issue.
_mysiak_ said:
1. you are right, but with root access it can be done easily directly or through another app. I suppose that "MIUI optimizations" are blocking "clean data" button.
2. it happens with Simple gallery app, Total commander, Quickpic,.. Some apps store data in cache, others store them as app data. It doesn't matter if you use stock or 3rd party camera app. As soon as you open MIUI gallery or another gallery app (or allow them to be always running and scanning storage for new pictures), it generates a preview and keeps it for a future use.
3. yes I agree, but you unfortunately can't rely on this assumption. Any app with access to storage area should be considered as a source of potential data leak.
I am not defending MIUI apps (I avoid them like plague), just wanted to highlight that it's not the only app with such issue.
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Storing them in cache is fine as the cache can be deleted - I've checked simple gallery app and it doesn't store anything permanently in data.
What I have an issue with is the permanent storage of these files in data. If they are temp files they should be stored as cache which is deleted when you clear the cache.
I agree that anything stored could be leaked however if you delete a file it should be deleted and not leave temp files behind that cannot be removed through clearing cache (by deleted I mean deleted at user level & not deleted beyond some forensic recovery tool)
Using open camera and simple gallery app no such files are left behind permanently in data
Thanks for cross-checking this. I think both of your comments are right. Many apps are keeping this cached data, but I also would like to see a possibility to clean this data for privacy reasons. The question what is considered to be sensitive is manyfold of course. I sometimes take a picture of a postal document to store it on my PC, but would also consider family pictures as private.
For me - in a good sense - it looks like a simple bug, that the authors of the SW didn't check this. In a more bad sense, but I haven't tried that (and will not ) is that this cache is possibly transferred to Xiaomi if you use a Mi-account on your device. Who knows. Just remembering the old story with this Mi-browser......
Therefore I shared, as it may fill your device storage over time, which was my main concern.
Thanks for sharing, I didn't want to discourage you or dismiss this issue as irrelevant. MIUI gallery should certainly store such data in cache folder and/or delete the preview after removal of the source picture. I am going to delete all data and disable the app through ADB, I used it only once to test the sky replacement feature anyway and now I have a good reason to disable it again.
Edit: with disabled MIUI gallery, after taking the screenshot it doesn't show the usual edit window, it saves the picture right away. Just in case if anyone wondered about the impact.
_mysiak_ said:
Thanks for sharing, I didn't want to discourage you or dismiss this issue as irrelevant. MIUI gallery should certainly store such data in cache folder and/or delete the preview after removal of the source picture. I am going to delete all data and disable the app through ADB, I used it only once to test the sky replacement feature anyway and now I have a good reason to disable it again.
Edit: with disabled MIUI gallery, after taking the screenshot it doesn't show the usual edit window, it saves the picture right away. Just in case if anyone wondered about the impact.
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You can also revoke the storage permissions for the MIUI gallery app - you keep the screenshot edit window but as it doesn't have permissions to access storage it can't save the preview files to data
Interesting ,thanks for sharing.