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Can someone help me with this little problem? I love CM or AOSP based roms but the problems i always had with them (on all devices htc one, galaxy s3, galaxy note 2) that they set the speaker volume too high and you can always hear that the speaker have problems with that, when you play your sound on the highest level.
i know there are mods like Noozxoide but they dont affect the alarm sounds or the call sounds.
would very appreciate some help here, thanks
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Can someone help me with this little problem? I love CM or AOSP based roms but the problems i always had with them (on all devices htc one, galaxy s3, galaxy note 2) that they set the speaker volume too high and you can always hear that the speaker have problems with that, when you play your sound on the highest level.
i know there are mods like Noozxoide but they dont affect the alarm sounds or the call sounds.
would very appreciate some help here, thanks
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A custom kernel will provide you with the abilty to set the sound levels, you would be able to turn down the max speaker volume or reuce distortion through a control app. look for a kernel with boeffla sound control, or wolfson audio control, scoobydoo sound or voodoo sound
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
By ditching MIUI...!?
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
F27 said:
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
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Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
nijel8 said:
Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
F27 said:
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
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I can confirm the low headphone volume bug exists for some media/music player apps on the miui 8 global rom. However, there's an easy workaround. Open Google play music app and play an audio file in that app. Increase the headphone volume from that app beyond the 'Warning: high volume can damage hearing' volume level. Leave the headphone volume at the highest setting. Close Google play music app. The next time you play audio in your preferred media player (other than Google play music), it should already be fixed. If you don't have Google play music, you can download it from Google Play store.
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
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That wasn't necessary... I am well aware of all things about Mi Max from day one.
And you were asking about CM so...
I thought my new earphones were faulty when I used them in my Mi Max. I was going to give them away but then I read about sound problems on Mi Max. Both my xiaomi phones have poor sound quality, mi4 always had poor quiet sound.
The low volume has been fixed for me on g8
There's some cracking but that's sorted by clean cache in the play music app there's also a equaliser in the app settings
This is a workaround for get high volume during listening to music by using IEM/Headphone. Only work with poweramp v3 alpha build 703/704
(Please Google it for APK. It's free in Poweramp forum)
Install poweramp v3 alpha, go to setting > resampler.
Select resampler type > SoX
Resampler cutoff frequency ratio > 97% ~ 99%
Dither > Improved e-weighted noise shaping (Poweramp indicate it slow but actually it fast enough)
Tap back button and select Hi-Res Output and then turn on Wired headset/aux (it will upsampled lossy format thus higher volume and audio quality improved a little bit. Another thing is make sure the 24-bit Snapdragon DAC is activated during listening session).
WARNING: Lower the volume at 20% or lower before activating Hi-Res output during playback. Trust me you'll thanks me later xD
If you can hear distorted sound at high volume, go to replay gain (RG), set preamp for songs without RG info to -7dB. (Just to make sure the sound is not clipping).
The Mi Max audio quality is pretty good even the DAC is just an integrated DAC.
In the screenshot is DSD128 playback. Working but it was downsampled. As for 24bit/96kHz source, it will upsampled to 192kHz.
Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
F27 said:
Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
Actually the 'Neutron' screenshots did not show any headphones attached. The music was played on Mi Max's loudspeakers which can't reproduce low frequency so you can't hear the clipped low frequency sounds. The recording is actually only piano, vocals and cymbals. The low frequency is from instrument feedback (low frequency hum). On my ATH-M50s/LE headphones, that volume level would have been half as much since 100% is already too loud, eliminating the low frequency clipping. I don't need an external amp for my headphones. They're loud enough for me except for some Chesky recordings.
At the end of the day we shouldn't need to do any of these fixes and tweaks to make the sound from the Mi Max reasonable, Xiaomi should fix it but it seems they have very poor customer service when it comes to feedback and bugs. This Qualcomm DAC chipset is in many phones yet they don't have sound quality and loudness issues. I don't expect perfection but the Mi Max out of the box sounds worse than by budget Mediatek powered phone from 4 years ago!
i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
AeroMiku said:
FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
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Try out Foobar2000 (available on the Play Store, free & open source) instead of Neutron & you can skip the entire default sound processing with usage of the Open SL sound output & you will find a built in DSP section mostly sufficient. I am against modifying sound picture to much & as much as I sow in GSM Arena review the output sound picture is almost perfect & thick behind iPhone 6s (I plan to buy Max now). Rest is mostly influenced by quality of sound source & used headphones. For more well use dedicated external DAC & Amp.
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i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
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Would actually rather increase (in small steps) output volume
In <!-- Play Scenario --> section for headphones & speaker if I whose you.
Don't exaggerate with it!
Best regards.
I did the opposite and reduced headphone volume to get rid of the hissing. I had the same problem on the Note 3 Pro, on MIUI 8 and CM13/CM14, so it's down to how the Qualcomm mixers are configured. By reducing gain and turning off companders you're dropping the noise floor. The drawback is that headphone volume is low, so this hack only works well with low impedance IEMs like Xiaomi Pistons.
1. Get rooted, open up all mixer_path_*.xml files in /system/etc.
2. Change HPHL Volume and HPHR Volume to a low value like 2.
3. Change any Comp* Switch values to 0.
4. Change RX HPH Mode to CLS_H_HIFI
5. Reboot and enjoy.
My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
skerry2006aj said:
My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
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Use Foobar2000 instead, VLC is bad when it comes to music.
I went to an electronic party last weekend so I could finally test the audio recording quality on extreme situations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzfXQqgGZ1M
Turns out its really awful. Even my friend with a Motorola G5 have better audio quality. That is pretty disappointing for me, as I'm also a DJ and music producer so I make videos under this circunstances a lot. Also it impacts song-finder apps, as the quality is so bad that the app can't recognise the song.
Is there anything that can be done via software? Custom ROM or tweaks... Or is it a matter of the microphone (hardware) quality itself?
Btw I've already tried recording with the Open Camera App selecting the "unprocessed" audio source. Gets distorted same way.
Thanks in advance.
I confirm the existence of a similar problem for me and several people. How can this be fixed at least temporarily?
Thanks in advance.
Gratefall said:
I confirm the existence of a similar problem for me and several people. How can this be fixed at least temporarily?
Thanks in advance.
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Can't really call it a "problem" since it affects all Xiaomi phones. It's just a standard quality microphone paired with bad software otimization. I did some tests and the microphone is actually capable of capturing audio with less distortion under these conditions, the problem is the processing applied to the audio isn't optimized for these situations, making it distort.
Did you have the same issues using other kernels or roms? I confirm I've been getting similar issues also
massalami said:
Did you have the same issues using other kernels or roms? I confirm I've been getting similar issues also
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Yea I tried every rom and kernel... all the same.
If it was only at shows... could live with it. But the audio distorts even at daily things like recording messages on whatsapp when inside a vehicle (I reported this on another thread). I get really frustrated.
Same here..I participate at the lot of Trance events and simply, audio is one big bulshitt. (like at 99% of Android phones). For loud events recordings, iPhones are still the best
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Same here..I participate at the lot of Trance events and simply, audio is one big bulshitt. (like at 99% of Android phones). For loud events recordings, iPhones are still the best
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Exactly... I always had android, then I swiched to an iphone 6s only because of the audio I knew was good... now I finally came back to android (cause I love the OS and its variety of functions compared to iOS) and unfortunately suffering again with poor audio recording. The few android I know can handle this are the top-end Samsung (S8, S9, S10). I heard about HTC also but never got to see or test it personally.
Altough I really can't understand why manufacturers don't take this audio thing more seriously, they leave this aside like no one cared about audio quality lol
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Exactly... I always had android, then I swiched to an iphone 6s only because of the audio I knew was good... now I finally came back to android (cause I love the OS and its variety of functions compared to iOS) and unfortunately suffering again with poor audio recording. The few android I know can handle this are the top-end Samsung (S8, S9, S10). I heard about HTC also but never got to see or test it personally.
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Damn, I thought I was the only with this kind of concern and this is the reason I'm currently using an iPhone 6s as my second phone just for audio recording. In my case I like to listen and play metal music with my band in a rehearsal room, so I always used my phone to record my rehearsals to see my band's progress and some other things and the best phone with a good recorder was the Mi 8 Lite until someone robbed me.
Idk why Xiaomi don't take a look to this issue, I mean, I'm not saying they have to listen to heavy metal or something like that, just realize the many scenarios the people would use the recorder app or the camera, e.g. in concerts.
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Damn, I thought I was the only with this kind of concern and this is the reason I'm currently using an iPhone 6s as my second phone just for audio recording. In my case I like to listen and play metal music with my band in a rehearsal room, so I always used my phone to record my rehearsals to see my band's progress and some other things and the best phone with a good recorder was the Mi 8 Lite until someone robbed me.
Idk why Xiaomi don't take a look to this issue, I mean, I'm not saying they have to listen to heavy metal or something like that, just realize the many scenarios the people would use the recorder app or the camera, e.g. in concerts.
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Most android manufacturers lose users to Apple just because of details like this, they don't realize how important this might be for some users. I mean, take for example artists on the music world... these are influent people... and 99% of them use iPhones because of things like the audio quality.
Anyway... this conversation can go really far.
Talking about the Mi 9 SE... mostly the cause of the the bad audio quality is bad software optimization. Xiaomi could get this a lot better with just some simple updates. I've tried modifying some microphone options, turns out it can actually record with less distortion (not really perfect but better). Still a bit of the guilt is on the microphone hardware itself... its kinda cheap.
try cameramx app, set audio source to external. it worked quite well at a muse concert.
the issue is the recording volume too high which affects also whatsapp vocal messages.
somebody solved it on rooted devices by installing root volume mixer pro, set the microphone gain to -3. this wasn't tested at loud events, only on whatsapp.
turronet said:
try cameramx app, set audio source to external. it worked quite well at a muse concert.
the issue is the recording volume too high which affects also whatsapp vocal messages.
somebody solved it on rooted devices by installing root volume mixer pro, set the microphone gain to -3. this wasn't tested at loud events, only on whatsapp.
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I've tried using Open Camera with audio source set to unprocessed. Didn't solve it for me, got a bit less distortion but still a lot (maybe bacause the sound was really extremely loud). Will try with "external" source.
I was trying to modify the mic gain directly on the system files, but I'm gonna try that volume mixer pro thing also. Ty.
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I've tried using Open Camera with audio source set to unprocessed. Didn't solve it for me, got a bit less distortion but still a lot (maybe bacause the sound was really extremely loud). Will try with "external" source.
I was trying to modify the mic gain directly on the system files, but I'm gonna try that volume mixer pro thing also. Ty.
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Did it make it any better?
I have the Xiaomi Mi 9 SE , i love the phone, but yes the recording quality is terrible. i downloaded the Root volume control, but when im in the path files, i dont know what changes to make.....
What is the recording mic on the camera called in the files??.......what values am i looking for??......
How many changes to i need to make.......??
I don't know ir the problem is because harware or software, but this problem doesn't happen in all Xiaomi phones, because models like Mi 9T (Pro version also) or Mi 8 records the audio clearly, also, remember that an user said that the Mi 8 Lite has a good quality of audio recording (I don't know if the NORMAL Mi 9 (not SE) records well the audio). Probably the problem is from the hardware, because phones like a big part of Redmi or other Android has a low quality mic, so the sound recorded will be poor, this problem also happens with other companies like OnePlus.
But if we want to talk in a general way, all the cellphones, including those made from Apple, ASUS, HTC or Samsung are going to lose quality in the record of concerts, very few phones like some LG are good recording specifically the audio from concerts.
I fixed a bit this problem just putting a finger up the microphone. At least it didnt clip af
Try another camera app like Cinema-FV5. I heard it improves.
Had this problem with every xiaomi I owned, only Mi 8 Lite didn't have it, so strange :\
hi, i had this problem on Redmi 3, on MI 9 SE its better, but still present. I installed CameraMX and set microphone to external and i think it helps a lot !
Again and again every xiaomi phone has the same ilness
Very bad sound on video recordings, something to do with noise cancelation. It was the same on redmi note 4. There was an excelent zip sound fix for rn4 mido nougat, i still have it somewhere. Is there similar mod/patch for rn5 whyred? Already changed the bitrate in etc/media profiles to 224kbs but doesnt make it better. Im on miroom miui 11, in all versions miui same problem.
Hi, try to disable Google assistant
I can’t quite get my Sony WH-XB900N wireless bluetooth headphones to sound right with the Mi 10T. They sounded great with my last phone, the Nougat-restricted HTC U11 Eyes, which topped-out at AptX (and with all my other tech).
With the older phone, adjusting the equalizer in any third-party app affects sound output accordingly. With the Mi 10T, adjusting third-party equalizers has absolutely zero effect on sound. In fact, when I attempt to engage the equalizer in Blackplayer, it displays a pop-up saying something along the lines of “Can’t use this until you disable built-in equalizer”. The built-in equalizer has its own quirks (which I’ll get to), and there’s no way to turn it off AFAIK. Disabling/uninstalling Mi Sound and Audio Effects (via ADB) doesn’t restore third-party equalizer functionality.
With the exception of Classical, the built-in equalizer’s presets are all rubbish IMO. Far too muddy or boomy in terms of bass. Adjusting it manually doesn’t really make things better either. I’m allowed only boomy bass or no bass, and waspy treble or no treble.
Toggling on “Adjust sound to earphones” and selecting Colour Edition or Youth Edition certainly helps (the rest only degrade sound quality further) – but neither is perfect. Colour Edition produces tight, clean bass but waspy treble. Youth edition produces crystal clear treble but boomy bass (arrgh!).
After much experimentation, the best combination I found is as follows.
AptX HD > LDAC (listening to 44.1/320 MP3 tracks).
Youth Edition.
Starting with the default preset, adjust the right-most three sliders to about a third of what they are in the Classical preset.
Adjust the left-most two sliders down just a smidge.
But I’m still not satisfied. I was looking forward to a superior musical experience using the Mi 10T, seeing as how its codec support tops-out at LDAC – but I’m left disappointed.
What else haven’t I tried?
For me, its okay. AAC support is welcoming