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A question:how can you get the great things for Hermes?

I just want to know that how can the "madmen" get the HTC drivers?apps and make them suitable for hermes to use,it seams that the HTC did'nt release them.if you get them from other roms,then how do they get?Thanks.

Being that this is your first post, I'm going to tell you before someone else who isn't so nice will. You have to read the threads, and the wiki. Also, when you do a search, use google.
The sites search feature doesn't work to well, because of all the redundant posts. Also, check out the Hermes upgrading forum, they have a lot of great information there. Good Luck.

What kind of apps are you looking for?
To search this forum, you should use the following format:
launch the google search page
type:
hermes xda (name or type of application) i.e for hermes xda pimbackup:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hermes+xda+pimbackup
this should find the post you can use to get information on a name or type of application that you might like.
Birdwords said:
I just want to know that how can the "madmen" get the HTC drivers?apps and make them suitable for hermes to use,it seams that the HTC did'nt release them.if you get them from other roms,then how do they get?Thanks.
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Or use this link to search the forums.
Same thing really... add it to ur favourites

im sorry that there must be some misunderstandings.i want to know how can you get the drives?apps which did not release,but not i want these things. anyway,thanks.

Ssshhh.....it's a secret
Birdwords said:
im sorry that there must be some misunderstandings.i want to know how can you get the drives?apps which did not release,but not i want these things. anyway,thanks.
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Think I follow what you're asking......
The chefs have their own sources that they get copies of the ROM's from - obviously these ROMs are not generally released yet. "We" (i.e. the normal forum members) don't know - or care about - their sources, we just like the end result.
Hope this answers your question
Mark.

yay i love this place
+1

Mark Crouch said:
Think I follow what you're asking......
The chefs have their own sources that they get copies of the ROM's from - obviously these ROMs are not generally released yet. "We" (i.e. the normal forum members) don't know - or care about - their sources, we just like the end result.
Hope this answers your question
Mark.
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Thanks for your answer! though we just want the final result,i want to know where do the chefs' roms come from. it is still puzzled me since jasjaming said he would release black3.5 with the latest HTC drivers.also other members here "delivered" the x-button.

^^^ Well, have you asked Jasjamming where he gets it?
I doubt he will tell you but you might as well ask the source.

hehehhheeh
Do you know this is kind of a trick question ! Ask Mr Bill from Micr.... if you can know how the code is done ...
But if you know how just start spread it !!!
ehheeeeh

what is an ROM

hello everybody
i dont know if im just a retard, but i dont know what a rom is.
can i get a definition, is it like touchflo 3d or is an update
please help me
/mr. stupid

Mr. Stupid said:
hello everybody
i dont know if im just a retard, but i dont know what a rom is.
can i get a definition, is it like touchflo 3d or is an update
please help me
/mr. stupid
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Have you tried asking google?
Google knows a lot of things, & I think he might just know what a ROM is.

no i think hes mad at me cause hes not telling me anything about roms

You had a fight with google or something Mr. Stupid? May that is why Mr.Google is mad with Mr. Stupid
BTW, type in "what is a rom" in that stupid textbox at google.com to know what is a rom

The rom is a image file in your phone, just like you have a image "rom" in your pc, Vista or XP

is it a kind of program?
that cant be changed
is it then a program you install then you can choose if you want touchflo or others while you have both?
and google never shows me what im looking for so i hate him

don be so confident of your stupidity
Mr. Stupid said:
is it a kind of program?
that cant be changed
is it then a program you install then you can choose if you want touchflo or others while you have both?
and google never shows me what im looking for so i hate him
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You were given instructions to go to google .. also you were told that it is like your operating system ( windows xp , vista ) ...
the best thing is he started a thread too ...PLEASE CONSULT GOOGLE

i will try
but i hate that guy!

i think i got it now
but 1 last question:
can i have 2 installed at the same time or can i only have 1?
(can i shut one down and start the other like an ordinary program)

Nice try my friend...
Whatever, ROM is the name for the capital of Italy in german language. Or is it the acronym for Regional Office Manager?

Mr. Stupid, by reading those posts you had proven that you actually know how to read. So be so kind and instead of generating forum traffic put this skill to use.
SEARCH & READ!!!!!! and only then come back.
P.S. Maybe if you don't get it, it too serious of a topic? Start reading...

the question has been answered
so before the flame war starts....THREAD CLOSED!

Fundamental Search Issues?

Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?

Well...
I can think in 3 search criteria:
1. Go to the upgrading section of your device
2. use Wiki to find all cooked and shiped ROM´s
3. Use the XDA fttp

Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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A few months back I actually dug through the advanced search code in vBulletin (trust me, it's terrible code). I may be mistaken, but I believe that it doesn't allow keywords of 3 or less letters unless there's extra parameters (like boolean operators and more keywords). Don't hold me on that, I'd have to look again to be sure.
One of these days if I remember, I'll go hunting through the code again to confirm that and update the wiki page I wrote (link is in my signature) with the answer to this.

mikechannon said:
Indeed words of less than 4 letters will not search. BUT if you click on advanced searh then choose search using Google at the top, it will search for 3 letter words.
Or you could use this:
Search XDA-Devs Forums or Wiki
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The problem with using google in this case is that it's not context aware of the forum threads. I think he's looking to see a large list of the different roms. With google, he's going to get search results including several different pages per rom and no way to sort the results. It would be faster to just click next through each page of the rom dev forum for the selected phone...which is almost as good as getting the intended search results from searching for [ROM]....
It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.

speed_pour said:
It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]

wg5566 said:
If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
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I wasn't talking about producing a better search engine, only fixing the known bugs. Things like the incorrect handling of sorting by relevancy (as detailed in the wiki page I wrote), the 4+ letter requirement on search terms, and maybe even giving it grouping capability. The first two aren't even hard to change, though the 4+ letter requirement is performance based, so it might be good to re-engineer some stuff. The grouping is trickier, but not even remotely an expert-level task (though it too has some performance implications).
Google doesn't have the know-how to separate or understand the context of searching only a certain group (or set of groups). It doesn't know how to search ONLY the topic and not the text body (or vice versa), etc. All of that data is separate and stuck in the database in different fields, which makes it WAY easier to search. We can have better search results than google because we have better access to the data, we just have to work through vBulletin's very simple code.

Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.

wg5566 said:
Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
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I think it depends on what is being searched for. Most RL friends know me for instantly hitting google to search on almost anything, but for this site I actually do use the integrated search most of the time. A well formed search here is still better than most results on google unless you need to use some pretty advanced searches that only Google can understand.
wg5566 said:
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
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GPS, WM6, SIM, GSM, SD, ROM, CAB
Just to name a few....
wg5566 said:
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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I'm about to pick on you just a bit...
Did you consider searching Google for 'Google Custom Search'? Fourth result down there's a step-by-step guide that explains it easily and also pushes the value of it when combined with AdSense. This is a search thread after all
I admit, I'm glad to have stumbled onto setting up that feature with adsense because I would actually like to use it just for my own site I'm setting up shortly.

Thanks a lot, I got it.
One more noob question(web design is apparently not my area), can I set it in a local page like this, bcz I don't own a website myself? [Edit: Never Mind, Got It!]
Later on after setup your site, pls pm me a link.
Tx.
Edit: Just tried to create my own search engine, take a look here
Edit: Wonderful! Yeah! So happy today.

Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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It yields zero results because the word is too short.

Searching for ROM version #s
I just ran into a search problem myself. I was searching for radio version 1.14.25.05. The google search took me to a long thread, so I thought I'd just search for "1.14.25.05". It didn't return any results, so I assumed this version wasn't there. It wasn't until I asked for help on a new thread that I was embarrassed by someone who told me it was on post #2. I had incorrectly trusted search. With version #s being so important to what xda-developers is all about, having a robust thread search is critical. Any thoughts on possible improvements? Are there settings in this software that could be changed?
John

Searching for a 3-letter result... "YES" we can
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe

pimpmydragon said:
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
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The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
pimpmydragon said:
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
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We're well aware that the vB search engine isn't perfect but neither is the one from google. That is why we give you the option to use both.
I'm well aware that this can be confusing at times but simply searching for "how to search xda-developers.com?" would have given you this thread wich explains in the first post that you can use google and that we implemented it because the vB search doesn't allow words with less than 4 characters.
Best regards,
Flar
Site admin
p.s. I always use the search in the navbar first I noticed later that my example search string gives really crappy results in the vb search.

Originally Posted by pimpmydragon
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
we are only a PM away.

Flar said:
The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
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I believe many users never read site rules. Once we register on any web-site, there always be a rule or a terms-of-use, and people's habit would be just click on 'Agree' without a glance at the content, since they are all similiar.
But we have a way to force new users to learn how to search and view the site. Simply change the rule to: New users can not post within say first 50 online hours after registered. Then they have to view and search first, especially if they came with some question or urgent problem to be solved.I think Vbulletin has the function of online-time statistics.
Just an idea for consideration, I don't know it will be practical or not.

wg5566 said:
I believe many users never read site rules.
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The Forum Rules announcement has >51,000 views since march... not bad
Dave

Yes, looks like the situation is better. It works especially by continuous remindment everuwhere. What about number of new users since then?
Edit: Remindment like this works, thanks for everybody's effort. A further thought is: If everybody already read it, but still a lot don't follow it. That may be caused by some human nature for urgently need an answer for his question. Noticed MODs' effort like your goodself to execute the rule, it helped.

Sorry i'm not quoting people here, i'm typing this on my phone.
First, the number of people reading the rules is far less than the number of new users, which doesn't even account for the long time users. Not that it matters hugely, the rules only truly matter to people posting, which is realistically isn't too bad.
Regarding the use of two search engines, it can be seen in a bad way, or it can be seen as having two different tools instead of just one. Neither is perfect, neither is better (opinions and experiences may differ), and they can often be used interchangably, but they are not the same and should be used differently.

Min 4 letter search is awful for a tech forum. No idea why such a known forum hasnt found a work around.
Theres no way around how terrible it is. As mentioned before the sheer number of issues that arise with things that start or 3 letters long renders search impotent.
MMS/USB are two major problems Ive had recently and couldnt do a search to find an answer. Of course that results in yet another thread on the topic being created that is probably needless.
Google search isnt forum specific so it too is too cumbersome to be useful.
Orb , MMS ,SMS , USB, APK , API I mean over half the "talk" we use for Phones involves 3 letter acronyms. Not even beginning to mention something like 1.6 , 2.0 when getting spcifics on those 3 letter acronyms.

Android nbh?

I just heard the news about flashing android on Diamond，can I get recognition here？
Sorry to my bad English，if you can‘t understand my words，you can use google translate the following：
我刚听说一些消息关于将android nbh，我能在这里得到肯定吗？

232603 said:
I just heard the news about flashing android on Diamond，can I get recognition here？
Sorry to my bad English，if you can‘t understand my words，you can use google translate the following：
我刚听说一些消息关于将android nbh，我能在这里得到肯定吗？
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Hrm... You obviously know mildly what you're talking about if you're referring to nbh...
Why didn't you use the search feature friend? Or even peruse the stickies... Maybe the first few posts of some of the popular threads?
Either way, I'll be nice. Basically it's not possible yet. Hopefully soon, I know a few devs are looking into it more seriously, one of them posting here - http://www.neopeek.com/en/community...67-Flashing+Android+on+our+devices?groupid=13
It's been done with other devices like the Kaiser, so it is possible. Just needs to be sorted out for our devices

If only it were possible to get a nbh for XDAndroid my life would be complete.
Of course there are many people working on it but I do not see it happening within the near future, as it is not a primary concern of the main dev team.
As of now we need to focus on stability and getting all hardware components to work 100% first.
I do see it as becoming possible within my devices life cycle so I am looking forward to it.
But as of right now, nope

[BETA] SpeechyVTS

A translator you can really talk to, literally. Say what you need and Speechy VTS will translate and speak out loud what you said in English for others to know what you really need or if you're just trying to learn the language to prepare for your trip.
So when you're at the Airport and no one speaks English and you don't know the native tongue, you can say "How do I get to Terminal B" and know someone who speaks Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, or French can help.
Currently in BETA and as we've encountered 1-error out of 10 so far, we may be needing more testers but on a non-AT&T Network. If you're interested, please let me know as we will contact you if you're deemed needed.
Thank you all for our continued support by XDA and it's users, YOU!

Nice app, but I have question: Does app supports other languages, or only those listed ?

lseidman said:
A translator you can really talk to, literally. Say what you need and Speechy VTS will translate and speak out loud what you said in English for others to know what you really need or if you're just trying to learn the language to prepare for your trip.
So when you're at the Airport and no one speaks English and you don't know the native tongue, you can say "How do I get to Terminal B" and know someone who speaks Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, or French can help.
Currently in BETA and as we've encountered 1-error out of 10 so far, we may be needing more testers but on a non-AT&T Network. If you're interested, please let me know as we will contact you if you're deemed needed.
Thank you all for our continued support by XDA and it's users, YOU!
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you can count on me for testing your app

Budniu said:
Nice app, but I have question: Does app supports other languages, or only those listed ?
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Hi Budniu,
Currently at the time of the screen shot, those were the only languages supported but we've now migrated to a whole new speech service that is using a speech server hosted in the cloud...
We we're trying to make it a non-net connected App but we've gotten requests/concerns wanting other languages like Babel fish, Bing & Google Translators offer.
Good thing is, we don't make App's around us and what we want. We make what YOU, the users want and that is our main goal.

tessut said:
you can count on me for testing your app
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That is so terrific to hear! We can't wait for you to try it out too and see what you think about it...
Unfortunately though, an automatic closing issue kept occurring on non-US Phone Carriers using SpeechyVTS 0.0.6B. Everyone who got a pre-existing copy, including USA has been asked to please remove from his/her phone, just temporarily.
Good news is, we've spotted the error and I think pretty much done but just want to make sure it's workable and stays loaded before allowing even US users access once again... We will notify you ALL immediately and update the screen shot.
I appreciate your message as it's nice to know we have others interested!

if you still need non-us-testers, i could help out. language: german, englisch

diboze said:
if you still need non-us-testers, i could help out. language: german, englisch
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Hi Diboze,
We certainly do. New Artwork is being applied and version 0.0.9B will hopefully be made available tonight.
Once everything is encrypted and ready for release we will let you and others who are interested aware.
Thank you,
Lance

is this homebrew or will it be available via the marketplace ?

the0ne said:
is this homebrew or will it be available via the marketplace ?
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Hello,
It will be made available to the Marketplace with our other currently available App's. To see all of our App's and where eventually you can find this and any upcoming App's at:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/publishers/Compulsive%20Technology
Hope this answers your question?
Thanks,
Lance

0.0.9B
Speechy: VTS got a bit of a face-lift... Here she is! Now with a iPhone "like" scroll list to easily scroll through the list of languages and the list acts just like an iPhone list as it can be flicked and extra "cushion" to the top and bottom of the list when you pull/scroll through it...
Icon's/Tiles are being revamped... All those who were interested in testing, you'll be notified.
Thank you,
Lance
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--- Need me ASAP? Follow/Tweet me on Twitter, @LanceSeidman.

ill gladly test it as well
tmobile
hd7
id you need another U.S. tester

Hello,
With the new update, all testers are desired. We've changed how Speechy works almost entirely as for functionality to try and make it, without sounding too rude, idiot proof.
I will notify you once the file is encrypted and ready for export.
Thank you,
Lance
knightsoldier said:
ill gladly test it as well
tmobile
hd7
id you need another U.S. tester
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Please provide your emails in private for testing...

BETA Requests ENDING!
I would like to thank EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, you've all been great and have made this very exciting for us.
However, we've gotten an outrageous amount of requests which will be ending, tonight. We will not be allowing anyone else as of 11/23/11 - 9:45 PM PDT. Very sorry but as we didn't want to turn anyone down, we got mass amounts of requests!
Q: Will you have any other BETA's?
A: Yes! We're actually fixing it up for the 3rd BETA release but making this public, just like this as it seems to be AMAZING people wishing to try our stuff.
Q: ... But will it be Voice Enabled?
A: Actually, it is... The App is named TESA (The Extremely Smart App) and it is our take on the ever so popular iPhone 4GS Plugin, Siri.
Q: Is it just like Siri?
A: No. TESA is programmed with a hundred+ (or will be) options/functionality and really to be used to help those who are blind or bad vision and additionally for general use of course.
Q: Hundred options? Doesn't sound like much!
A: It is quite a bit but that's ok as we're making this a public TODO List where you the users get to help add functionality in to an App. With a simple form, submit a desired task OR word/phrase/etc and could be added and in some cases (if verified) instantly!
As for TESA, we'll need a valid Full Name, Zipcode and Email but not everyone will be elected to try it unfortunately and please wait until the thread for it is created before requesting to help.
Thank you all yet again!
Sincerely,
Lance

Quick question: it will be a free/ad-based app, or paid?
For promoting (so aggressively) commercial app you should pick another forum, AFAIK...

It will be free. If you wish to have the entirely other edition with OCR translations included (not shown), that will be paid. TESA will be free as well, maybe a popup but doesn't seem logical since really no UI for it and can use Bluetooth to use it.

I forgot to ask... Which forum should I be directed to for my commercial apps?
sensboston said:
Quick question: it will be a free/ad-based app, or paid?
For promoting (so aggressively) commercial app you should pick another forum, AFAIK...
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lseidman said:
I forgot to ask... Which forum should I be directed to for my commercial apps?
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For the paid apps, xda has a corresponding forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=993

sensboston said:
For the paid apps, xda has a corresponding forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=993
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Very good, I will start adding them in once we develop one/release.
Thank you.

Deep Link Download Option
Hello,
If you've been added to the BETA but can't access the file? Please open your web browser to: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/1b8d1380-45f9-41ab-bdba-5c1ed248f507.
This is the "deep link" to the App and will allow you to go forth and obtain it. If your email does not match your LIVE Account, you will be forbidden from being able to obtain it.
If you continue to have access issues, please alert me.
Thank you,
Lance