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I know there is lots of Information out there, but since it varies widely and doing something wrong might brick my phone, i need some help.
My phone is unlocked, Anti 4 on Liquid Remix (9.0). I was on MIUI 10 Beta before unlocking. I now want to go back to MIUI 10 Global Developer Rom.
There seem to be two ways of doing it. Either TWRP or MiFlash. Also, there seem to be two sources for official Roms:
http://en.miui.com/download-341.html and http://en.miui.com/a-234.html
One being Fastboot Roms, the others not? Also, with the fastboot files, there is only a global stable option, no Developer Version.
So what gives? Which of those do i do? Can i still assume, that MiFlash will only flash something that won't brick my device? Any hint which Rom to Flash how would be highly appreciated:good:
domsch1988 said:
I know there is lots of Information out there, but since it varies widely and doing something wrong might brick my phone, i need some help.
My phone is unlocked, Anti 4 on Liquid Remix (9.0). I was on MIUI 10 Beta before unlocking. I now want to go back to MIUI 10 Global Developer Rom.
There seem to be two ways of doing it. Either TWRP or MiFlash. Also, there seem to be two sources for official Roms:
http://en.miui.com/download-341.html and http://en.miui.com/a-234.html
One being Fastboot Roms, the others not? Also, with the fastboot files, there is only a global stable option, no Developer Version.
So what gives? Which of those do i do? Can i still assume, that MiFlash will only flash something that won't brick my device? Any hint which Rom to Flash how would be highly appreciated:good:
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always flash latest beta or stable MIUI.. to avoid anti roll back problems
Nambardar said:
always flash latest beta or stable MIUI.. to avoid anti roll back problems
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Thanks, i just bit the bullet. The "Fastboot" Rom, latest Stable Global, flashed via MiFlash worked perfectly fine. Looks like MIUI 10 is now in the stable channel, so i'm back to 10.
On another note. While ARB isn't bad in itself, the uncertainty it creates in "users" is ridiculous. As a Sysadmin and XDAer (Romaholic) for over 10 years, i consider myself rather seasoned in those things. And even i can't get to the point where i'm 100% sure beforehand wether what i'm flashing is safe. Thank god all went well. And the Note 5 will be the first phone not running on AOSP for me. MIUI is that good.
Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
palmdude said:
Hi all,
I am completely new to the Xiaomi world (I prefer stock Android and easy root usually), but I got an excellent offer to buy this beast today.
I will buy this device, only if the following is possible.
- Unlock bootloader
- Root with Magisk
- Pass Safetynet check
- Install AFWall
- Install Adaway
Has anybody done this yet?
I don't want to know "how" (I can ask/figure out that later). I just want to know whether it is possible/relatively straight forward?
Thanks!
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Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
opasha said:
Yes, all done. Very easy and straightforward. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for best miui experience or latest AICP Oreo treble rom for 95-99% working Android stock experience. Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu and have all except afwall on mine since I don't use that app.
I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
If you go with any other version, check out my buggy vendor thread to flash to xiaomi.eu rom easily.
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Quick follow up question. Is it possible to keep encryption on the userdata partition with the latest TWRP? I really like if my data is encrypted.
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I recommend the 6gb/128gb from TradingShenzhen with xiaomi.eu installed - it will have unlocked bootloader right out of the box - many of us went with this version. Easiest/best experience.
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Thanks for the hint!
I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
palmdude said:
I guess keeping encryption seems to be possible? Using the unofficial TWRP by @nijel8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-1-nitrogen-t3866084
Right?
Thanks @nijel8 and @opasha ! I am glad we have geniuses like you on this device.
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Encryption is possible. @nijel8 will have more knowledge since he created a modded TWRP. See this thread regarding encryption: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/help/encrypt-phone-t3845117/amp/
You are most welcome :highfive:.
Thanks again. I will order now.
Talk to you all again in 720 hours
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
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Currently on 8.8.9 xiaomi.eu
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There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
palmdude said:
I got my device today. I like it!! I got the global version 9.6.7.0.
Looks like I "only" need to wait 360 hours to unlock
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I have a three more questions now.
#1 Is there a reason not to use this global 9.6.7.0 ROM (other than the ads). Are there any big bugs in this global version? If not, I will probably start rooting this version first Should I update the global version?
#2 You mentioned
There seem be to many newer versions than that. And also a "MIUI 10.0/10.1 STABLE RELEASE" (oct 24th). Is there a reason you are still on that old version?
#3 I understand not having ARB is better if you need to downgrade (without bricking). Is there a reason to downgrade frequently in the Xiaomi world? Is this because people need to switch back and forth between the Chinese and global ROM? And since I have the global version, can I ignore ARB?
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1) EU is just better (has more features baked in - universal face unlock, theme store, etc), less bloated, and more updated.
2) Stable release is fine, but I just prefer beta updates - faster fixes, more features introduced, and tested more by users = more feedback.
I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because:
a) It's pretty flawless for me.
b) If it's not broken why fix it? I haven't seen anything worth jumping ship for.
c) It's NON-ARB; I'll only upgrade to ARB if and once I see a better working pie release (coming soon supposedly) because a data wipe may be necessary. I'll use migrate app (faster than titanium backup) to backup all my apps and then restore them onto the new rom.
3) Honestly, having ARB is not a big issue especially since the updated EU roms are solid. However, my points back in number 2 still stand. You can flash to and back from treble gsi roms on ARB and NON-ARB without any issues. However, no matter what anyone tells you, gsi roms for our phone are not perfect. They're only 95% usable. They are still missing mono speaker, volte, and some other things that some say are working without evidence or thorough testing. @MrColdbird just tested a few of the latest if not all of the gsi roms, and he's in agreement with me - they're almost there, but not 100% yet. Stick to xiaomi.eu roms for a complete rom. Just my humble opinion .
If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
@opasha @MrColdbird
Have u guys tried latest AOSPExtended Pie GSI? I loved this rom on my previous device.
https://downloads.aospextended.com/download/treble_gsi/pie_arm64_aonly/AospExtended-v6.0-arm64_aonly-20181117-0000-OFFICIAL.zip
Currently I'm also on 8.8.9 run and waiting for Pie build.
Anyone tried cutting of files from firmwareupdate folder to avoid ARB activation.
I've found solution that cutting firmware folder, leaving only files associated with modem shouldn't break anything and won't trigger ARB. Is it working on latest eu builds?
Files that allegedly have to stay in firmwareupate folder to not trigger arb:
.BTFM.bin
cmnlib.mbn
cmnlib64.mbn
devcfg.mbn
dspso.bin
NON_HLOS.bin
splash.img
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If anyone tested please confirm
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If you have any other questions, just ask. I hope this was informative enough.
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Thanks! And yes, this was very informative and helpful! Thanks for your time.
Regarding
> I'm on 8.8.9 eu strictly because ... It's NON-ARB
I was under the impression that EU is non-arb by design?
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/do-eu-roms-remove-anti-rollback.47145/#post-451617
I guess I haven't understood this ARB stuff 100% yet? And obviously this is a moving target. Posts only one or two months might be already outdated haha
Having said that, you convinced me about Eu.
And I guess in 15 days there will be new developments anyway (no pun intended).
I take photos quite a lot and I don't play games that much. Any rom suggestion for me?
I mostly use google apps personally and for university!
foneiamone said:
I take photos quite a lot and I don't play games that much. Any rom suggestion for me?
I mostly use google apps personally and for university!
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Use debloated miui 11. Good roms are MIUI eu 11.0.11 and MiuiMix 11.0.11 (favorite). It's okay with stock kernel but I use agni kernel. Here's a page with many resources for curtana in one place but be careful before installing anything you haven't seen anyone using.
Curtana Premium
Almost forgot... You can use gcam for slightly more detailed photos than miui camera. There are numerous versions. Check out curtana photography in telegram. Personally I only use gcam for raw images. But for quick shots that you won't be doing pixel peeping on, stock camera is enough.
Hello ftriends, I'm a little confused, are all the ROMs on CurtanaGang valid for the international, European version of the phone? I am very interested in this. I have a new Redmi Note 9 pro bought in Romania. Thanks
Hellera said:
Hello ftriends, I'm a little confused, are all the ROMs on CurtanaGang valid for the international, European version of the phone? I am very interested in this. I have a new Redmi Note 9 pro bought in Romania. Thanks
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That website is not known to a lot of people. Roms made for miatoll will work on your phone. Be careful to NEVER install a rom that's made for curtana only.
The roms listed usually have a support or discussion page linked so look for it. Information in the changelogs can also help you decide. Just make sure that you confirm a rom will work on your phone. The installation guide or the rom thread will usually tell which phone the rom is made for. Look for it and post questions there if possible.
Oh! You said you have a new phone... Don't do anything regarding flashing ROMs before you unlock the bootloader.
twistyplain said:
That website is not known to a lot of people. Roms made for miatoll will work on your phone. Be careful to NEVER install a rom that's made for curtana only.
The roms listed usually have a support or discussion page linked so look for it. Information in the changelogs can also help you decide. Just make sure that you confirm a rom will work on your phone. The installation guide or the rom thread will usually tell which phone the rom is made for. Look for it and post questions there if possible.
Oh! You said you have a new phone... Don't do anything regarding flashing ROMs before you unlock the bootloader.
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Thank you @twistyplain for your detailed answer, I understood. For now my big-big problem is unlocking bootloader... I'm trying hard for three weeks without any result...everytime it saying "wait for 168 hours..." I know I must not sign out from Mi account, don't reset phone...etc... but nothing, same 168 hours to wait... I don't know what to do anymore... any advice is welcome! Thank you.
Hellera said:
Thank you @twistyplain for your detailed answer, I understood. For now my big-big problem is unlocking bootloader... I'm trying hard for three weeks without any result...everytime it saying "wait for 168 hours..." I know I must not sign out from Mi account, don't reset phone...etc... but nothing, same 168 hours to wait... I don't know what to do anymore... any advice is welcome! Thank you.
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I used these instructions to unlock my bootloader. My phone came with miui 11 but these instructions should work with Miui 12 also.
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working MOD NOTE: This guide is only for devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets, NOT MediaTek! This tutorial guides you through unlocking and rooting your Redmi 9 Pro &...
forum.xda-developers.com
twistyplain said:
I used these instructions to unlock my bootloader. My phone came with miui 11 but these instructions should work with Miui 12 also.
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working
How to unlock & root Redmi 9S & 9 Pro using official tools only - fully working MOD NOTE: This guide is only for devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets, NOT MediaTek! This tutorial guides you through unlocking and rooting your Redmi 9 Pro &...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thanks again @twistyplain, I know all these steps to unlock ... it doesn't work unlocked. My phone came with MIUI-11 but it was updated to MIUI-12. Probably because the SIM card is not activated on their server (server error ... etc) and is not activated after restart, reset (three times!). Maybe it will work with another SIM card...I'll try it...
Hellera said:
Thanks again @twistyplain, I know all these steps to unlock ... it doesn't work unlocked. My phone came with MIUI-11 but it was updated to MIUI-12. Probably because the SIM card is not activated on their server (server error ... etc) and is not activated after restart, reset (three times!). Maybe it will work with another SIM card...I'll try it...
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I think that's the problem. You must make sure that the sim card to be activated is able to send an international SMS (Mandatory) and it should (maybe) be the active data sim. When you try to activate it make sure you're using mobile data using that Sim card to be safe. Also, try to activate it without another Sim installed.
My primary Sim card activated properly the first time but Sim 2 has never successfully activated. Every time I reboot it tries to activate Sim 2 but always fails. I just wait for it to fail and clear the error message because it affects nothing.
twistyplain said:
Use debloated miui 11. Good roms are MIUI eu 11.0.11 and MiuiMix 11.0.11 (favorite).
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Hi there, so where can i found those?
I'm on the same train, i'm searching a debloated firmware for my new 9 pro.
From what i gather through forums and posts is that the Havoc-OS is the custom firmware+official with the less issues, unless those you mention are better.
I searched both rom subforums but i can't find them.
The closest i find is this which for some weird reason doesn't have as many posts as one could expect Lol
[ROM]-MiuiMiX_2.2.0_joyeuse-[Android 10 - MIUI 12]
I'm not involved in MiuiMiX team nor its development. I only love and would like to share this fantastic work. Hope you enjoy it. * Your warranty is... still valid? * * I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, * thermonuclear...
forum.xda-developers.com
R00tFreak said:
Hi there, so where can i found those?
I'm on the same train, i'm searching a debloated firmware for my new 9 pro.
From what i gather through forums and posts is that the Havoc-OS is the custom firmware+official with the less issues, unless those you mention are better.
I searched both rom subforums but i can't find them.
The closest i find is this which for some weird reason doesn't have as many posts as one could expect Lol
[ROM]-MiuiMiX_2.2.0_joyeuse-[Android 10 - MIUI 12]
I'm not involved in MiuiMiX team nor its development. I only love and would like to share this fantastic work. Hope you enjoy it. * Your warranty is... still valid? * * I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, * thermonuclear...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Havoc is AOSP meaning it is based on vanilla Android (not miui). It has a large thread on xda so you can browse that to know about the rom. Official means that it's the one recognized by havoc os developers -- not that it's in any way affiliated with xiaomi. The AOSP rom that most people agree is better than most is Evolution X. However, better than other AOSP roms doesn't mean it's better than miui based ROMs. I always use roms based on stock hence the reason i recommend them. They're generally more stable and require much less effort to get going.
Regarding the source of MiuiMix, you can follow the telegram link in the thread you just posted just under "We follow also other devices, you can know more and update in our telegram channel". I won't repost the link because I'm not sure it's even allowed. When you get there search for your device codename. For instance mine is curtana so i just type #curtana in the search box snd i see a list of the roms released for my device.
Miui eu has a dedicated website so look for it.
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Havoc is AOSP meaning it is based on vanilla Android (not miui). It has a large thread on xda so you can browse that to know about the rom. Official means that it's the one recognized by havoc os developers -- not that it's in any way affiliated with xiaomi. The AOSP rom that most people agree is better than most is Evolution X. However, better than other AOSP roms doesn't mean it's better than miui based ROMs. I always use roms based on stock hence the reason i recommend them. They're generally more stable and require much less effort to get going.
Regarding the source of MiuiMix, you can follow the telegram link in the thread you just posted just under "We follow also other devices, you can know more and update in our telegram channel". I won't repost the link because I'm not sure it's even allowed. When you get there search for your device codename. For instance mine is curtana so i just type #curtana in the search box snd i see a list of the roms released for my device.
Miui eu has a dedicated website so look for it.
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Thank you for all the info!
Yeah, i think i will go the same root and use MiuiMix which is a stock based rom, that's why i asked where did you get the ones with miui 11 since i can't find them on sourceforge.(there is only a curtana 11.0.9)
I think i made up my mind and since i have joyeuse i will go with the MiuiMix miui 12 pointed in the thread linked above.
R00tFreak said:
Thank you for all the info!
Yeah, i think i will go the same root and use MiuiMix which is a stock based rom, that's why i asked where did you get the ones with miui 11 since i can't find them on sourceforge.(there is only a curtana 11.0.9)
I think i made up my mind and since i have joyeuse i will go with the MiuiMix miui 12 pointed in the thread linked above.
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Good choice. Im using it right now. It seems to be a nice rom. Better than eu in ram management. Dark theme has some bugs but I don't use it because it has no energy saving for ips display.
Hi, i'm waiting for official Pixel Experince custom rom for the Redmi note 9 pro (joyeuse), I asked them on their twitter account they told me to wait, you can do the same it will convince them to do
twistyplain said:
Good choice. Im using it right now. It seems to be a nice rom. Better than eu in ram management. Dark theme has some bugs but I don't use it because it has no energy saving for ips display.
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Hi twisty where can i find MiuiMix 11.0.11 ? i searched xda but could only find mention of it, I got my note9s for xmas and am waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked but then i want a stable rom that i can use for daily use as i use it for work also.
t3rm3y said:
Hi twisty where can i find MiuiMix 11.0.11 ? i searched xda but could only find mention of it, I got my note9s for xmas and am waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked but then i want a stable rom that i can use for daily use as i use it for work also.
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Go here and search for #curtana
You'll see the ROMs posted for your phone. There are five so far.
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Go here and search for #curtana
You'll see the ROMs posted for your phone. There are five so far.
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thanks, i dont really use telegram, but i have downloaded 11.0.11 would you say to leave the version 12s for now?
t3rm3y said:
thanks, i dont really use telegram, but i have downloaded 11.0.11 would you say to leave the version 12s for now?
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I upgraded to MiuiMix 12.0.2 and it's been perfect for almost three weeks now. I don't use dark mode because it's the only bug i know to exist with this rom. And I can't blame the MiuiMix devs because it's a xiaomi fault.
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I upgraded to MiuiMix 12.0.2 and it's been perfect for almost three weeks now. I don't use dark mode because it's the only bug i know to exist with this rom. And I can't blame the MiuiMix devs because it's a xiaomi fault.
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May I ask if you use wifi calling and if so does it work as well with MiuiMix as it does with Miui ?
HiQual said:
May I ask if you use wifi calling and if so does it work as well with MiuiMix as it does with Miui ?
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Never used it
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
only one way to find out
Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Not worth it, the changes are very little, like e.g. added Ads toggle directly in the initial Android Setup and probably other very minor stuff.
Unless you're talking about Xiaomi.eu which is a Custom ROM. I personally use it and can recommend it. Latest MIUI from China, optimised for rest of the world. Advantages are more features and in-house apps like MIUI Phone (with Call Recording), MIUI Contacts, Xiaomi Health, etc..
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Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
Xyril07 said:
Wait I'm confused?
Xiaomi.eu is different from the EU ROM?
Does that mean that the particular ROM you're using is actually a Custom ROM (From the community rather than from developers/ POCO themselves)
If so, what exactly are the advantages it provides aside from the one you mentioned? How about substance?
And does that mean that it is outside the realm of being official, and therefore not ideal to someone like me looking to stick to stock everything to avoid the hassle and headache?
Thank you!
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
I'm not sure if you can flash the Official EU ROM without having to unlock the bootloader. I think you can.
But for Xiaomi.eu you definitely need to unlock it. For me personally it was worth it, but I'm also very specific about my customisations and also always unlock & root my Android devices.
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Yes 100% different. Many get confused about this because of the website's name.
It's very much a Custom ROM, but very stable, since it just takes the latest MIUI ROM from China (China gets the latest ROM first, because Xiaomi is chinese). The community devs also did a few adjustments to make the chinese MIUI ROM suitable for the rest of the world, like adding Google Services which China doesn't use, etc..
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Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
Xyril07 said:
Damn.
Do you personally recommend going through the hassle of switching over to Xiaomi.eu, as someone who wants to stick to stock as much as possible but also want the best ideal experience (best battery life, general quality of life stuff)
I also wanna avoid stuff like bootlooping, issues with my warranty, not being able to go back to the official state of the phone etc.
Can you also comment on the opinions I see mostly saying that there is better battery over at Xiaomi.eu. and if so by how much? Are talking an extra hour or two on your screen on time and general battery life? Or at best a couple of minutes?
Thank you
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Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
dreamytom said:
Hm. Well, Global and EU ROMs are always behind China ROM and Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM.
First thing you'd notice is the Xiaomi apps like Phone, Contacts, and other Xiaomi apps being improved and having a modern Design. You also get new features like Horizontal Recents-Menu, ability to smoothly adjust Font-Thickness. And probably more obvious stuff.
It's been a long time since I last used Stock ROM, but.. battery life is the same.
Also: When people claim much improved battery life on Vanilla Android ROMs or other specific ROMs, take them with a grain of salt, unless these people do scientific tests.
There's always variation, and it highly depends on the features that are enabled, your apps and its services that are running in the background and other stuff like your specific brightness setting.
You may get bootlooping when trying out Custom ROMs, that can happen, but you can always revert back to Stock ROM. You just need to do research on how to flash a Custom Recovery like TWRP, how to flash a Custom ROM and how to revert back to a Stock ROM.
Unlocking Bootloader and using Custom ROM is probably not covered under warranty, but if you can, you can revert to Stock, lock the bootloader, and say "I haven't modified my phone's software", they wouldn't know.
The best MIUI experience is Xiaomi.eu in my opinion, however you have to take time in doing research about TWRP, Xiaomi.eu, Mi Flash (to revert to Stock if sh*t goes wrong), and yeah.
From Global to EU ROM (Official) however, is not worth it at all. No differences basically.
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What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
CharlieMHz said:
What about OTA? From what I've read in the past, the Updater app in Xiaomi.eu just downloads the full package and we dirty flash the package it in TWRP. Is that still the case?
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Yup, on Xiaomi.eu that is the case.
However it only takes 3 minutes to flash the ROM and to reboot. That's literally it.
It's possible for a system to work together with a Custom Recovery, in order to automatically flash updates, but apparently in 2021, we haven't gotten there yet.
I've heard of some Vanilla Android Custom ROMs having fully automatic OTA-updates. AICP or crDroid I think? Not sure..
There's two option with Custom MIUI ROM ( Bare minimum modifications or else there is Highly modifiable MIUI ROM's like OneOS, MIUI MIX, Hellas MIUI, XTRV, MIUIVN, MI-Globe, etc. ) , Xiaomi.eu weekly beta update and a Xiaomi.eu Stable update which are both based on chinese beta and stable as the name suggests. Personally, I use the Weekly update and i have not found any issues for which i would consider it a deal breaker. I am Rooted and happy. I will never go back to Stock ROM because of how poor the battery life was. And also to factor the google dialer and messages app. I do not like it.
I agree with everything @Animesh Singh said, except the Battery life part.
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Sì, su Xiaomi.eu è così.
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Ho sentito parlare di alcune ROM personalizzate Android Vanilla con aggiornamenti OTA completamente automatici. AICP o crDroid penso? Non sono sicuro..
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Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
pegasoc said:
Just to complete the list, even with Syberia I get the update via OTA.
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lol why is it in italian
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lol why is it in italian
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I apologize, I got confused with the translator.
Xyril07 said:
I just bought my Poco F3 (8/256), and initially I never really gave any thought about flashing a custom ROM, since at this level, the phone itself is amazing, and I can use it well and reliably.
But I came across people being really passionate towards the EU ROM over the Global one. And they aren't doing it for the sake of customization, they're doing it for literal quality of life improvement.
With that said, as the title suggests, my interest is piqued with the topic, and just wanna ask if it's worth doing so?
I hope you guys could give a conclusive, objective list, not just simply because you use one or the other. (Would really appreciate it :> )
Also I have a few other questions;
Is it technically a custom ROM but is essentially official ROM (I.e. it's from Xiaomi directly so practically nothing changes and everything is still optimized and built for the F3)
Can you go back to the default ROM like nothing happened (Literally back to stock, is that possible?)
And is it safe from a I wanna keep my phone as stock as possible, without any modifications (I really just want the EU if it's officially from Xiaomi and really is stock)
Also maybe you guys can throw around tutorials, and instructions (Like with is TWRP?)
As someone who came from the era of primitive Android modifications (Rooting around 2014) I managed to boot loop an old device of mine, and so I'm understandably hesitant towards these things m
Hopefully my questions could be answered by such an awesome community. Appreciate it :>
Stay safe always guys!
Edit: I really value keeping the phone as is (The experience and the technicalities) I just really want my phone to still be reliable and free from bugs and headaches (With exception to the ones caused by the phone itself, not cause I messed around with my phone)
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If you really like to more Google default apps than MIUI default apps such as Phone, Messages, Google Discover, etc. then changing from Global ROM to EU ROM from official MIUI site is good to go. Unlock the bootloader first then you can flash the EU ROM. Otherwise just stick with Global ROM, everything is same from performance, battery life, etc. But then again if you prefer a Custom ROM based on MIUI, then MIUI EU from Xiaomi-EU is better, it has better stability and more features as well since it is from Chinese ROM which always release earlier features and bug-fix improvement than the official MIUI ROM. Hope this help
You can check all xiaomi.eu features from the link below (scroll down a bit).
MIUI 12.0 - MIUI 12.0/12.1/12.2/12.5 STABLE RELEASE
STABLE RELEASE RULES WHEN POSTING 1. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK ABOUT ITS ETA 2. If a ROM is not published DONT ASK why! 3. If a ROM is available, download it and use it 4. If a ROM has bugs, post the bug to the bug section if the BUG is not already listed 5. If you use any form of...
xiaomi.eu
Notable features for me are:
Increased volume in headphones after some tweaking in sound settings, better standby and battery life, wallpaper carousel (it has an anime category in xiaomi.eu), better theme store imo because of the AOD category which i couldn't find in the global but most of the stuff is in chinese so it might not be as appealing for everyone, no ads etc
I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
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I have been looking at a Poco f3 5g. It will have the UK (EU?) Rom. Should I still try xiaomi.eu?
I have a mi 9t at the moment with pixel experience but I'm willing to give Xiaomi ROM another go.
I like Google dialer and messages app. I don't record calls and don't understand why people make a big deal of this?
Is there less bloat in the xiaomi.eu ROM compared to the official EU ROM?
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I have read somewhere that xiaomi.eu have some significant better stuff, i think it was on reddit. I ordered mine yesterday, my Poco F3 comes with the Global ROM so i am also thinking on flashing it to xiaomi.eu or to the Official EU ROM, i am still thinking more about changing to the EU ROM other than xiaomi.eu since it's official and it's the first time i am thinking about flahing a phone, is it possible to change from official Global ROM to official EU ROM and if so, do you know how can i do it?
I personnly wouldnt bother still got bloat like virus scanner pretty sure it Avast with a diffrent stamp dont care for the music and video apps to much bloat , the themes app sucks to ,, gonna flash something make it worth your while like Arrow
Background Info -
I purchased my 16GB x 512GB Mi MIX Fold from a reputable supplier on Alibaba. It was claimed that he was capable of making it have a "Global" ROM (a 5 - 7 day process is how long it took him). All Google services and apps were preloaded, just like my first Xiaomi Global phone I purchased 1.5 years ago. As well as only some of the Xiaomi Global apps. Now that I have the phone, I am running into a fair bit of issues (in this post I am only focusing on one). I did bring these all up to the supplier (of course including updating the ROM issues), all without much help. All he gave me was he said the ROM on my phone is actually the EEA version that was modified, and of I need any updates, go on www.xiaomi.eu. So not much help, because come to find out, they don't support the Mi MIX Fold and that there is no ROMs available. Including the current ROM my phone has right now - V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global").
What is nice about my phone is that all the system apps are the Global versions. But what's not so great is the System Apps Updater does not work at all. It shows there are update(s) available for my Global apps, but when I update them, they are indefinitely suck at "Connecting 0%". I also tried Xiaomi's "Get Apps" while switching my Region to "India", it too showed updates, and would not update them no matter what I tried. So, I search online for each individual system app, and update each manually (yes, the whole process is a pain).
So Where I Need Some Help (The Purpose Of This Post...Updating the ROM) -
So, I am in the process of trying to update my phone's ROM, to get the best MIUI has to offer for the Mi MIX Fold. I have searched all over the internet and the only ROMs I can find are "China" versions.
My current ROM version is V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global"). I know the most up to date ROM is V12.0.21.0.RJTCNXM (but it's the "China" version). I would like to have the current ROM, but I have a strong feeling that I will loose all functionality of all my Global system apps. The Xiaomi Updater app unfortunately does not work at all. When checking for an update, it says "No updates available". When tapping "Download latest package", it says "Can't download update...Wait a minute or two and try again". When I tap "What's new", it says "You don't have permission to access the update log...". Please see screenshots for all of this. I even tried to update it another traditional Xiaomi way by using Mi PC Suite, which it couldn't even detect my phone when connected. So that doesn't work either.
So my attempts are as follows (at least 20 attempts). I downloaded every Stable Recovery ROM version as listed in the XDA Mi MIX forum titles "MIUI Updates Tracker (Mi MIX Fold)" I also downloaded every ROM version from a couple other sources. I tried to update the ROM (from the newest version to the oldest) using the Xiaomi Updater app through Recovery Mode. Every time it failed saying "Current version is invalid. You can only flash the latest stable ROM", or "Can't verify update...Can't install official ROM". So then I downloaded the ROMs directly from mirror links to Xiaomi's server. I did the same update procedure, they all failed. Does that mean I have to do it via Fastboot?
Last Thoughts -
I included some screenshots showing what the ROM is on my phone (and the outdated Android security update), and what message comes up with each update attempt.
Could you guys point me in the right direction and help me figure out how I can update my Mi MIX Fold to the most current ROM, preferably the EEA version (if possible), since there really is no such thing as a Global version? I would be extremely appreciative if someone can shed some light!
Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Thank you very much for your response!
OK, so it looks like I will have no choice but to get rid of the custom "Global" ROM for the China version. I do wonder though if I am going to lose out on anything as far as the Global system apps (but won't update, unless manually), or all the Google apps & services, or anything else. There of course are many benefits switching to the China ROM.
I'm just a little reluctant because of it being a China ROM being used on a phone in the US. And having features that only work in China and is not optimized for the Global market. As well as features usually found on a Global Xiaomi phone, would be missing or can't work at all. Maybe I am overthinking it all. Another concern is if the China ROM would have English as a language that can be choses. I assume so, but it would be a plus to know 100% before I make the plunge.
Only if I could play around with a Mi MIX Fold with a fresh install of the China ROM. See how different it really is compared to what I currently have. See what it comes with (apps & all) & what is or isn't compatible. My previous, & only Xiaomi phone, was the Global version of the Mi Note 10 Pro. So I have, I guess you can call it, a Xiaomi Global mindset. My Mi MIX Fold is my daily driver, I can't play too much around. Also if I do flash it with China ROM, I can't revert it back to the ROM it has now, since it seems to be custom. Unless I can somehow backup absolute everything, ROM and all.
I know this is a simple question, but what and how is the very best method to back everything up? To not only make sure no data is lost, but also to make the whole process faster when restoring everything.
Do you have any other suggestions or advice? I would appreciate it!
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
bom Dia, como consigo essa rom global?
Obrigado
anasmhds said:
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
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Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
JazonX said:
Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
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Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
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Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
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Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
JazonX said:
Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
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Sold my mix Fold and replaced with Samsung fold 3 as the software of Samsung is better, but both are suitable only for office use not a daily driver.
I am using xiaomi 12 pro as a daily driver and planning to move to s22 ultra soon .
Did you find any solution to install Global ROM in Mi Mix Fold?
hello every one
i have Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 with chines rom how can to convert it to global rom ?