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I noticed when I was at a friend's place recently that the Vibrant supports N wifi networks as well as G. However, I did not have the opportunity to do any extended testing.
I have noticed that wifi transfers over the network using various file sharing tools tend to be slow, and buffering with Allshare can be slow at times. What I'm wondering is, has anybody compared actual speed of Wifi on the Vibrant or Galaxy when using an N network versus G? Is the speed of the phone itself more the limiting factor, or would I get much better speeds using an N network?
Reason is, I'm currently using a Buffalo WHR-54GS router. It is a bit old, but using DD-WRT firmware, it has been rock solid. It does not, however, support N networking. I'm wondering if I would see any improvement in speeds transferring files and buffering DLNA connections by upgrading to a Buffalo WHR-HP-GN which supports N networking.
The only reason I'd upgrade would be for the N based Wifi - so if there's no benefit on my phone, then I wouldn't need to upgrade. Any input?
I have not had a chance to do any benchmarking but I have done allshare over both a G and N network and it did seem noticibly faster over the N network. Especially when paired with a gigabit hard wire to whaterver your streaming to/from.
Actually I think the gigabit helped as much as the wireless N, of course those routers tend to be more expensive...
I got a linksys wrt160n with ddwrt. the n doesnt work great with ddwrt but the router is great. i also have another n wireless but i dont notice much diference at all. maybe internal network stuff but not internet stuff.
Can't say I've done side-by-side comparisons, but it does seem to get some boost from the N speeds. For a new router, I'd suggest the ASUS RT-N16. Just about the most powerful consumer router out there (RAM & CPU) and it runs Tomato (plus dd-wrt)
N is better for streaming.
The N network allows a faster streaming and file transfer over the wifi. Now this will not improve your internet speed. The limit on the router might be higher, the modem will still have its limits. If you use allshare alot, I'll recommend you get a N router, otherwise no reason to purchase something you won't use. I have a Netgear dualband router (WNDR 3300). It supports both N and G networks but I rarely use the N since most of my devices do not support N. The ones I have that do like the Vibrant supports at 2.4ghz frequency. The router can be switched to broadcast the N at 2.4ghz, but like I said, If you're not streaming, there's really no need for it. To put this in numbers, the G networks can only transfer data at the maximum of 50mbps while the N can transfer files at Maximum of ~400mbps (if not higher). If your internet service does not offer more than 50mbps speed, then your internet will remain the same whether on G or N. You have been schooled
Helpful, informative post. Up until the last sentence.
Unless you only set your router to n you wont get the full advantage of using n you will only get compatibility. Having g on slows down you n network to a like speed. At least that what happens on my router, I have a dlink, when I did a little Googling it confirmed it.
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Only Loki said:
Unless you only set your router to n you wont get the full advantage of using n you will only get compatibility. Having g on slows down you n network to a like speed. At least that what happens on my router, I have a dlink, when I did a little Googling it confirmed it.
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May be specific to your Dlink. My Asus does G & N, and the N devices ran significantly faster than the G laptop that I still had connected until recently. The G laptop never slowed anything else down.
tide1988 said:
You have been schooled
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tide1988 said:
To put this in numbers, the G networks can only transfer data at the maximum of 50mbps while the N can transfer files at Maximum of ~400mbps (if not higher).
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If you are going to try to school people, please do it right and quit misleading people.
The Vibrant is not MIMO capable, so we only get a theoretical 150Mbps on 802.11N. Due to security and WiFi error correction, realistic throughput is ~70Mb/s. That is 8.75MB/s, slightly faster than an AData 16G class 6 card, but significantly slower than a SanDisk 8G Class 6 card.
On 802.11G, again due to WiFi error correction and security, a realistic throughput number is around 20Mb/s. That is 2.5MB/s, barely faster than a crappy Class 2 SD card.
Keep in mind that these are all "optimal" numbers. The amount of time that your vibrant will ever see these (more realistic) maximum numbers are probably less than 10% of the time.
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May be specific to your Dlink. My Asus does G & N, and the N devices ran significantly faster than the G laptop that I still had connected until recently. The G laptop never slowed anything else down.
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Try a file transfer on N with the compatibility mode off (N Only) versus in B/G/N mode. You should see a speed increase on N only. However, with everything RF, you might have interfering neighbors that will influence testing.
Some of the wireless routers will slow down. it has to do with the router only having one band. In a dual simultaneous router, one band can be slowed to G speeds, such as my PS3 or my dad's 2nd gen iPod touch. My vibrant, however is automatically positioned on a completely seperate stream from the G devices.
i have a Cisco E3000
and i do see a small difference
about a minute difference in downloading a 600mb file
Hello everyone,
I wonder if anyone has experienced the following problems and if they have resolved them. My Lg G4 is having some serious problems with my 5ghz WiFi network at home. The 2.5 ghz works reasonably well but the speed of my 5 Ghz is more than twice the 2.5. So here is what happens, I am in the room of the router, excellent connection and all of a sudden during browsing facebook/random internet search about c++ programming/linux command the the internet cuts out. There is no internet on my phone what so ever, going to any page yields the same result. I pulled out my laptop and tested the connection on the 5 ghz and 90 megs per second.
If I turn the wifi off and turn it back on the phone reconnects and regains internetability (or the traffic starts going again).
I have tried resetting my phone, getting a replacement, changing router settings - I did everything from removing the key, leaving it unprotected to changing channels to doing firmware updates to no avail.
Has anyone had this issue and solved it?
Wireless on this device is seriously broken in every aspect. I've been battling the 5ghz issue for months now. They (VZW) know its an issue, LG knows it an issue. They credited me for two months but now say they wont do any more and I have to buy a new device out of my pocket. Even went as far as to tell me the G4 doesn't support 5ghz band and that they were sorry that I don't understand how WiFi works. They also refuse to warranty because its a software bug and any additional G4's will have the same issue. So its an issue, but its not an issue...according to them....Totally over it, and their lack of support.
Sorry, I don't have a solution for you, but I can confirm the G4 has 5ghz issues. The LG G2 also does, but much worse.
I have my G4 connected to 5ghz only (802.11ac) at home, and I experience this issue about once a week. (I'm sure it would be more if I used my phone at home more). The traffic all of the sudden just stops. Toggling wifi on/off or just waiting a long time solves it. My two other devices on 5ghz have zero issues. I can live with it because, so far, it has never interrupted important stuff like wifi calls.
Same result here on the 9th device stupid VZW has sent me and the 5ghz still dont work. I still cannot understand how it is that these people sell a broken device and can get away from the lemon laws. It is like a bank all we do is we take in the money and the broken product we sold to you is something you have to deal with.
So my phone seems to act really wonky on 5ghz band and ATT and comcast both have arris chipset based routers, the throughput speed is fine but the ping goes up and it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, i could only find one thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms when its having a problem its always 45+ms which isnt that huge of a difference but its so strange because clearing the cache does not solve this problem, im on the latest nof27b updated running pure nexus now, so i really wish they could fix this problem, if my router is unplugged and plugged back in it has this problem as well, i hate that i have to do a buncha restarting and logging in, at first i thought my pixel was broken, and i spent upward of 6 hours flashing and reflashing back to stock and rooting etc. anyone else with a similiar problem
Get some of the network tools on your phone and do some testing/data collection. If it truly is bad connecting to the 5Ghz network your only solution might be to buy your own wifi router and connect it to the cable modem and use your own WiFi setup (make sure you set it to use different channels than the ISP one if you can't turn off the ISP WiFi). We have Netgear X8 here at home and I only connect to 5 Ghz with zero issues.
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So my phone seems to act really wonky on 5ghz band and ATT and comcast both have arris chipset based routers, the throughput speed is fine but the ping goes up and it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, i could only find one thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms when its having a problem its always 45+ms which isnt that huge of a difference but its so strange because clearing the cache does not solve this problem, im on the latest nof27b updated running pure nexus now, so i really wish they could fix this problem, if my router is unplugged and plugged back in it has this problem as well, i hate that i have to do a buncha restarting and logging in, at first i thought my pixel was broken, and i spent upward of 6 hours flashing and reflashing back to stock and rooting etc. anyone else with a similiar problem
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I have a suggestion to your problems, i think this has something to do with this problem that you mentioned, it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, see this is where the problem is, as you said before, login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, but wait i have a suggestion login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, and so do i, and i spent upward of 6 hours flashing on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, i hate that i have to do a buncha restarting and logging in with totally inconsistent ping times, wonky on 5ghz band and ATT and comcast both have arris chipset based routers, anyone else with a similiar problem, ne thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms when its having a problem its always 45+ms , the ping goes up and it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, i could only find one thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms.
Does this help?
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Example...See all the ping times around the 25ms range then after all night it jumps to the 40s for some reason In the morning and network toggle doesn't seem to help now switching networks...
this is getting annoying cant seem to fix this and it seems to happen if the phone sits around idle for a while
You'll probably need to get your own WiFi router to plug into the cable modem. That was the only solution of us when we were in an apartment 2 years ago where they supplied ATT Uverse. WiFi was practically unusable. Plugged my router in and we connected to that with zero issues. Phones and computers.
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You'll probably need to get your own WiFi router to plug into the cable modem. That was the only solution of us when we were in an apartment 2 years ago where they supplied ATT Uverse. WiFi was practically unusable. Plugged my router in and we connected to that with zero issues. Phones and computers.
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ok so it is probably ATT shoddy equipment then, i figured as much
vidfinnx said:
ok so it is probably ATT shoddy equipment then, i figured as much
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Keep your fingers crossed the cable modem connection is good. If there are any issues in their network you may find that plugging your own router in won't work. I'd buy one from someplace you know you can take it back for a refund if it doesn't solve your problems. At least in our situation it was their crappy wifi router that wasn't good and the network itself was okay.
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Keep your fingers crossed the cable modem connection is good. If there are any issues in their network you may find that plugging your own router in won't work. I'd buy one from someplace you know you can take it back for a refund if it doesn't solve your problems. At least in our situation it was their crappy wifi router that wasn't good and the network itself was okay.
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network is fine, pretty sure its this crappy router as it has zero customisations whats weird though is it only disagrees with the pixel xl sometimes i dont understand it, ive had to reset it before and then it works fine.
This problem is getting annoying, it pops up no matter what factory image i flash, and if i shut off my wifi and then immediately turn it back on it happens, is anyone else having problems like this on their wifi i hate to feel like something is hardware broken on my pixel i dont wanna return it to verizon and get a bootloader locked one, this is on a completely stock reflash nmf207b Using an ATT gateway 5268AC, throughput speeds are fine but this ping consistency is annoying. What controls the wifi in these, which driver or radio or image. 5ghz AC band on a dual band
Hi all,
I've recently purchased 2x Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro's and I've noticed that the WiFi link speeds are hilariously slow for such a modern phone.
2.4g seems to be limited to a max 72mpbs and 5g is limited to 433mbps. Now, before you say 'it's your router grumblegrumble' it isn't. It's a VMG3925-B10B and its capable of much faster wifi link speeds and I know it is because my older LeEco LEMax 2 got a lot more, so do my laptops, and Ipad. Even my 10 year old Dell 1520 gets faster than 72mbps.
So, now that is out of the way, what on earth is going on? I'm certain that this modern phone must be able of quicker wifi speeds especially considering it's reliant on wifi for connectivity?
I've tried entering the mediatek engineering mode on the phone but can't get into the wifi options (wifi needs to be off, operated too much, constant search on etc) which are all set correct but still doesn't let me in.
Any ideas because this is going to bug the hell out of me. 5G is fine but it's still not acceptable.
Well I have on my router about 36MB/s on 5Ghz.
Redmi Note 8 Pro should also support simultaneously connection on 2,4 and 5 GHz WiFi. But not enabled right now for some reasons.
Generaljan said:
Well I have on my router about 36MB/s on 5Ghz.
Redmi Note 8 Pro should also support simultaneously connection on 2,4 and 5 GHz WiFi. But not enabled right now for some reasons.
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Unfortunately your speed test doesn't mean squat because it's only testing your broadband connection. Not the WiFi link speed between your device and router.
It doesn't seem like there's any extended bandwidth capabilities?
remi note 8 pro wifi speed problem solved
turn off the bluetooth when using wifi. speed will be fine.
karan989898 said:
turn off the bluetooth when using wifi. speed will be fine.
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Who was using Bluetooth while using WiFi?
I watch youtube with BT earphones for example, internet is god damned slow, 144p loads for minutes even on 4G... That seems to be a problem of software. Disconnecting BT brings internet back
On a redmi note 8 miui 12 try this: go to settings/location and turn off wifi and bluetooth scanning
Hey guys.
Purchased it today,and just like every damn Samsung phone and tablet they still haven't fixed wifi strength signal with even such expensive phone.
So I was out of town and from like 7 wifi signals,only 2 were recognized.
And even when it connects the signal is so weak and it often drops.
Now I'm in my room now and like 3 feet away from router and I'm getting around 6.7 MBps speed instead of between 9-10 just like on my good old S7 edge.
I can't believe.
So is it my phone or others have the same issues?
I have never had a single issue regarding wifi signal strenght, I got my note 10+ since Sept 2019
So I came today in city park,sit on bench and turned ON WiFi on this phone.
Damn,it couldn't find nor any fi..ing single network over WiFi.
I rebooted it like 5 times and then it found one network and barely connected to it with very low signal,but in a matter of minutes it droped.
I had near me,Ulefone 5S which is 200 euros phone and it had better WiFi signal and found at least 5 networks,although with very weak signal,but Samsung couldn't find nor one WiFi network.
Because I purchased used phone ofc I can't return it or RMA it.
Am I the only one with this issue,and how do I resolve it?
But if I'm like in a caffee where is near router the signal is okay,but when I'm outdoors I have this issue,means far away from caffee routers.
Ok I did test outdoors compared with S7 edge.
Do you notice any difference,in terms that N10+ has some issues:
So there is one place in city,where there are lots ofi wifi networks but all of them have weak signal.
So I turned ON the phone and WiFi and it didn't find nor any single network,I turned off wifi on again nothing.
Here is the picture of that issue.
I also can not find what model of wifi card is in my phone,to check if it was replaced,so I'm suspicious about that.
Btw I don't have any wifi issues when I am on local coffee shops/bars nor at home.
Just at places where like wifi signal is weak and like there are many networks at that place.
So what is this issue about.
I just went to my balcony and simply this phone doesn't detect as many networks as some chinese phone,N10+ detected just 8 and chinese phone 13.
Then all of the sudden phone goes crazy in like 5-10 min and detects like 12 network.
And though signal strength is nearly the same between phones,I'm getting even 10 % lost in download when I do speed test and compare 2 phones.
so third video,compared to my tablet and s7 edge.
and I will post pics.
Correct me if I am wrong but on tablet and on the phone on the right yeah I see more network recognized but those have weak signal...
N10+ obviously doesn't list those networks for some reason (with weak/no signal).
so third video,compared to my tablet and s7 edge.
and I will post pics.
Correct me if I am wrong but on tablet and on the phone on the right yeah I see more network recognized but those have weak signal...
N10+ obviously doesn't list those networks for some reason (with weak/no signal).
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As you do clearly see on picture N10+ is screwed up recognizing only one wifi network,and my Ulefone Power 5S many...so what is happening I dunno.
Even S7 edge beats it.
I had the same experience on my black note 10+ (4G black model), it would drop the wifi quite often during video playback while my Mate 30 Pro would just continue on the same network. That improved after I reset the network settings and cleared the system cache. I had/have a far more stable connection after that. As for the speed, the Mate 30 Pro would always achieve higher speeds than the note 10 +, no matter how many times I did the tests on both devices. As for the amount of networks it shows, my current note 10+ ( a 4G model but a white one) does only display 1 network at home while the Mate 30 Pro shows 5 or 6 different networks but all of them with a very weak signal strength. Besides them all being password protected I doubt if the Huawei would be able to connect with any of these so whats the point of showing all these weak networks. Maybe that's the reason the note 10 does not show them? Maybe the are filtered?
Both the black and the white are showing similar behavior, I have them both side by side and both are showing the same (single) network being available.
No problem with wifi with my Note 10+ N975F/DS, Good and stable connections.
I do confirm that in the wifi settings only stronger networks are displayed. When using app like WiFi Analyser I can see that there are more networks detected on the Note 10+ than shown in the wifi settings.
I do observe that wifi speeds on Note 10+ are lower than those provided by my Note 8, comparing/measuring side by side on same wifi network.
But in daily use the Note 10+ has sufficient wifi stability and -speed for my normal use, (matching the speed of my Internet connection of 100Mb) including streaming of HD-Video. I do not play online videogames.
Yep for some reason my Note 10+ doesn't show networks with bad wifi signal,dunno if it's just my model or you experience the same.
But for phone such expensive this is unforgivable.
Look here guys,it does recognize wifi networks with wifi analyzer but doesn't filtrate them so I can connect to them,same happens with my S5e tablet.
That's what I already stated...
You can however connect to wifi-networks detected in WiFi Analyzer (WA) by installing a plug-in (just click on the network in WA, it will prompt you what to install..)
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That's what I already stated...
You can however connect to wifi-networks detected in WiFi Analyzer (WA) by installing a plug-in (just click on the network in WA, it will prompt you what to install..)
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Nothing is happening when I click on network.
You need a new director for your videos.