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[Q] S6 Edge Lag and stutter

So I got the S6Edge and its suppose to be lag free most of the time, but mine lags when typing and sometimes misses letters I type, also the touchwiz launcher sometimes freezes and switching apps lag and stutter, google chrome and the Samsung browser aren't smooth at all, they suffer from freeze and lag, what can I do?
Will flashing stock firmware remove lag?
Start ing to regret this phone, I paid $1000 for it and there's lag..

Yes thats what im thinking also, this supposed to bw the fastest phone amd t still lags . I had the Nexus 6 , Moto 2014 and the Htc m8 all of them with zero lag. From Galaxy s6 edge I take out the camera and everything else is a fail.

I don't have these issues. I would go ahead and start fresh.

dc/dc said:
I don't have these issues. I would go ahead and start fresh.
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Stutter, stutter, S-s-s-s-Stutter, stutter...

just try CM browser in app store please
just try CM browser in app store please. it is way better and way less stutter.
grom96 said:
So I got the S6Edge and its suppose to be lag free most of the time, but mine lags when typing and sometimes misses letters I type, also the touchwiz launcher sometimes freezes and switching apps lag and stutter, google chrome and the Samsung browser aren't smooth at all, they suffer from freeze and lag, what can I do?
Will flashing stock firmware remove lag?
Start ing to regret this phone, I paid $1000 for it and there's lag..
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I have no lag or stutter at all. I'm rooted.
The only issue is a not so good battery life but it's been fixed by using airplane mode at home where I literally have no signal and depend on WiFi calling anyway.
If you had to update via OTA then I suggest you re-flash the stock ROM as that doesn't seem to have issues while the OTA might have introduced a few

chastity said:
I have no lag or stutter at all. I'm rooted.
The only issue is a not so good battery life but it's been fixed by using airplane mode at home where I literally have no signal and depend on WiFi calling anyway.
If you had to update via OTA then I suggest you re-flash the stock ROM as that doesn't seem to have issues while the OTA might have introduced a few
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The better fix for the battery issue has been to reflash the stock recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/help/rooting-deep-sleep-t3079385

Yeah mine does it too. I'm very close to returning my phone. I have gone through two so far, my third one will be delivered today. If this has stutter as well along with GPS issues, I'm done. I have less than 7 days left in my buyers remorse period. So It is now or never.
I may try the M9, but I honestly think I'm just gonna use my iPhone 6 until the Nexus 2015 or Note 5 is available.

vahdyx said:
Yeah mine does it too. I'm very close to returning my phone. I have gone through two so far, my third one will be delivered today. If this has stutter as well along with GPS issues, I'm done. I have less than 7 days left in my buyers remorse period. So It is now or never.
I may try the M9, but I honestly think I'm just gonna use my iPhone 6 until the Nexus 2015 or Note 5 is available.
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I was in your boat too. Try the suggestion above. There is something with the update they pushed that is not only killing the battery but makes the entire phone lag. Follow the thread posted above and clear cache and do a full reset. I was literally going to go get an M9 2 days ago before I did this. Entirely different phone now. I got 15 hours today with over 4 hours screen on time and zero lag.
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btothec said:
I was in your boat too. Try the suggestion above. There is something with the update they pushed that is not only killing the battery but makes the entire phone lag. Follow the thread posted above and clear cache and do a full reset. I was literally going to go get an M9 2 days ago before I did this. Entirely different phone now. I got 15 hours today with over 4 hours screen on time and zero lag.
Sent from my SM-G925T using XDA Free mobile app
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Okay cool I'll give it a try. On another note though it appears to have been hardware issues. My GPS was broken so it kept seeking location which dropped my battery way down. It also just couldn't find my location. I have cleared cache and done all that jazz with it and even used GPS Fix to no avail. So far this new replacement seems to be doing the job.
I'll take a look at not doing the OTA.

vahdyx said:
Okay cool I'll give it a try. On another note though it appears to have been hardware issues. My GPS was broken so it kept seeking location which dropped my battery way down. It also just couldn't find my location. I have cleared cache and done all that jazz with it and even used GPS Fix to no avail. So far this new replacement seems to be doing the job.
I'll take a look at not doing the OTA.
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You should do the ota, but then clear cache and reset to factory afterwards.
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vahdyx said:
Okay cool I'll give it a try. On another note though it appears to have been hardware issues. My GPS was broken so it kept seeking location which dropped my battery way down. It also just couldn't find my location. I have cleared cache and done all that jazz with it and even used GPS Fix to no avail. So far this new replacement seems to be doing the job.
I'll take a look at not doing the OTA.
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Just to clarify once you do the ota update you will want to power off the phone and then hold the volume up + home button + power button. Once booted into clear cache and then do a factory reset.
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Just my two cents, I think this is a memory leak issue. I've seen the phone start to get bogged down but with a quick restart, the smoothness returns as it should. I'm hoping that 5.1 will fix this memory leak.

If all else fails try this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3079176
Helped clear up a lot of things for many people. My main issue was fast battery drain. Seems to be a lot better now. I'm a pretty heavy user so this helped me.

I would go ahead and start fresh.

grom96 said:
So I got the S6Edge and its suppose to be lag free most of the time, but mine lags when typing and sometimes misses letters I type, also the touchwiz launcher sometimes freezes and switching apps lag and stutter, google chrome and the Samsung browser aren't smooth at all, they suffer from freeze and lag, what can I do?
Will flashing stock firmware remove lag?
Start ing to regret this phone, I paid $1000 for it and there's lag..
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I have the same problem, I'm on stock 5.1.1

This fixed my phone, if it helps you say thanks.
Download Debloater http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
install and run
disable "com.tmobile.pr.adapt"
that's it, my battery is great now and no lag

smashcz said:
This fixed my phone, if it helps you say thanks.
Download Debloater http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
install and run
disable "com.tmobile.pr.adapt"
that's it, my battery is great now and no lag
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do you need to have root to use this tool?

No

Video Stutter Issue in P2

from the last few days i am facing frame skipping in video playback (including youtube app, mx player, vlc) , the video lags and skips few frames.
I did a factory reset, installed deodexed version, wiped cache even reinstalled stock but the problem is still there
Anyone with some info please help
thanks in advance

Yeah bro,i am also facing same problem, BTW did u find any solution?

I'm also facing same issue after nougat update,
I have factory reseted my phone, updated all apps and applied system settings (enabled 'FORCE GPU RENDERING), but it doesn't solved my problem.

Yes it's present in stock ROM nougat version. On mm there weren't any such issues.
Sent from my Lenovo P2a42 using Tapatalk

i don't thinks that its a solution
but after flashing the nougat rom through fastboot the problem of stutter has reduced greatly
now it doesn't stutter that often

Any other solutions for this problem?? i have already factory reset it 2 times and i don't want to risk my new device doing fastboot flash :crying:

any solution for this prblm

I updated my phone to 244 and did a factory reset still the problem persisted but the stutter doesn't seem to occur when I keep it in airplane mode. Can anyone try this.

Guys, I guess I figured it out. Turning off the "participate in the Lenovo experience program" in about phone in settings fixed mine. Hope it works out the same for you guys.

NerD_RagE said:
Guys, I guess I figured it out. Turning off the "participate in the Lenovo experience program" in about phone in settings fixed mine. Hope it works out the same for you guys.
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Doesn't work for me, had it turned off from the beginning. The problem also applies to alarm sounds for me, they pause for a split of second every 10-15 secs, is it caused by the same thing?
Is this a common problem or only happens to some of the ppl? How can I know this? I bought this phone yesterday and after it consumed 25% of battery overnight I seriously consider returning it The battery was the main reason I purchased it and now is seems not only it doesnt work properly but other stuff is broken...

Did you update the phone to 244. If not then try it and check again. There weren't any other problems for me other than the video stutters.

If the question was for me, then yes, I did update to 244 and did a full wipe afterwards.

Hmm. Guess your only option is to give it to Lenovo service center and make them roll it back to marsh mellow.

Weird Bug!!! Seems it happens only when using Jio sim in nougat. It will not lag when u switch on aeroplane mod...

Same for me, airplane mode solves the stutter issue. Can you confirm that it works OK on other sim cards.

How does this help me with YouTube? I believe that it will not even load without internet? And what is "Jio"?

It's a 4g carrier in India. Btw have you tried airplane mode. We know that you can't use YouTube but try Mx player or vlc for stutters while in airplane mode. We just want to narrow the possibilities.

I bought a Bluetooth headphone yesterday and it seems to get worse. It was then I found out that an app named Android system was draining my battery but is not the actual Android system(check the screenshot).I went to the app manager and force stopped this app and haven't felt any stutters till now.
Edit: Although the app opens up after a while even if you force stop it and the stutters continue. Need to check after freezing it.

Does this problem still exist? Planned to buy this phone today... but meh, thats a dealbreaker.
Does this problem occur on Custom ROMs too? damn ... i want this battery monster.

Lybserv said:
Does this problem still exist? Planned to buy this phone today... but meh, thats a dealbreaker.
Does this problem occur on Custom ROMs too? damn ... i want this battery monster.
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The phone doesn't have any major problems such as this one on marshmallow at least from what I hear but running it on nougat will make you to face such problems and Lenovo provides a crappy support.

OnePlus 5t Issues (Day 90)

So, I use my op5t as my primary device.
I test my applications on it(Android developer), i listen to songs and i do all the normal things on my phone, Nothing abnormal like intensive gaming/ using it while charging or anything.
From last 1/1.5 weeks my phone is over heating it goes above 41C(CPU-Z readings) while doing normal things like listening to songs on wynk(It runs in the background), using whatsapp and instagram only. I don't use snapchat that often or any camera app (barely 15 minutes in 24 hours);
So i thought its getting warm in bangalore, It maybe because of it.
But 41C isn't normal for such a less use and that too not even in the direct sun.
And from last 3 days as i test/debug my applications on my device, The developer option should be enabled, and it was enabled from day 1 i got my phone.
Now while testing apps, My developer options suddenly gets disabled by itself(No module in app is playing with the system settings at any point), and now this is happening like 2-3 times a day in the time span of 5 hours of testing applications.
I Always make sure after debugging my applications that i restart my phone to free ram/ uninstall the app i was testing, clear the cache, stop background applications, stop applications that are using mobile data in the background.
Any suggestions on the overheating and developer options being disabled by itself?
I've posted the problem about the developer options on oneplus community but i would like to get more advices on if its a bug or just my usage is more than i actually think it is.
Thank you~ :good:

Perhaps a factory reset!/flash stock firmware, I always say this but if problems persist after this then you really have a problem

Skinpipe said:
Perhaps a factory reset!/flash stock firmware, I always say this but if problems persist after this then you really have a problem
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But I don't think that this should be the problem in the first place

ujjwaldapro said:
But I don't think that this should be the problem in the first place
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Agreed but it could solve the problem, it could not, you don't know the cause, going back to out the box stock is a good start

get to stock|factory reset
had an issues with overheating in test by antutu(in net mentioned that there is no no overheating problems)
after a reset 33celcius
try it out

I'm not at all a fan of "factory reset".
It's much better to do a full wipe (fastboot format userdata).
And then do a stock ROM install (or whatever ROM you want).
If you've experienced corruption somewhere in the system files, then a factory reset may not fix that.

Skinpipe said:
Agreed but it could solve the problem, it could not, you don't know the cause, going back to out the box stock is a good start
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Okay then I'll try this

CZ Eddie said:
I'm not at all a fan of "factory reset".
It's much better to do a full wipe (fastboot format userdata).
And then do a stock ROM install (or whatever ROM you want).
If you've experienced corruption somewhere in the system files, then a factory reset may not fix that.
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Ok let me see if update after this

ujjwaldapro said:
So, I use my op5t as my primary device.
I test my applications on it(Android developer), i listen to songs and i do all the normal things on my phone, Nothing abnormal like intensive gaming/ using it while charging or anything.
From last 1/1.5 weeks my phone is over heating it goes above 41C(CPU-Z readings) while doing normal things like listening to songs on wynk(It runs in the background), using whatsapp and instagram only. I don't use snapchat that often or any camera app (barely 15 minutes in 24 hours);
So i thought its getting warm in bangalore, It maybe because of it.
But 41C isn't normal for such a less use and that too not even in the direct sun.
And from last 3 days as i test/debug my applications on my device, The developer option should be enabled, and it was enabled from day 1 i got my phone.
Now while testing apps, My developer options suddenly gets disabled by itself(No module in app is playing with the system settings at any point), and now this is happening like 2-3 times a day in the time span of 5 hours of testing applications.
I Always make sure after debugging my applications that i restart my phone to free ram/ uninstall the app i was testing, clear the cache, stop background applications, stop applications that are using mobile data in the background.
Any suggestions on the overheating and developer options being disabled by itself?
I've posted the problem about the developer options on oneplus community but i would like to get more advices on if its a bug or just my usage is more than i actually think it is.
Thank you~ :good:
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Agreed!! This is why i still not sell my OP5, haha.

HairieM said:
Agreed!! This is why i still not sell my OP5, haha.
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You will pay for this.

Skinpipe said:
Perhaps a factory reset!/flash stock firmware, I always say this but if problems persist after this then you really have a problem
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I fixed it. In my Moto x style I fixed this problem by letting the phone to at the highest it can and it fixes it self.
For my Op5t it never went to 45. It went to 45 and now even if I charge it or do the same tasks when I used to do when it got really hot, it's barely 33 now.?*?*?*

ujjwaldapro said:
I fixed it. In my Moto x style I fixed this problem by letting the phone to at the highest it can and it fixes it self.
For my Op5t it never went to 45. It went to 45 and now even if I charge it or do the same tasks when I used to do when it got really hot, it's barely 33 now.?*?*?*
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Could you please explain what/how you did this.

Xebeck said:
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Could you please explain what/how you did this.
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So I had a Moto x style and it went hot, really hot. And I was fed up because of it as I thought it's a malfunction in the phone and something's wrong. So I used to be scared that if went to hot it will catch fire or smthng. So I just one day let it go as warm as it can and it went to 45-46 and came back to 35 again and after that it's just normal temperature.
Same with my OnePlus5t. I listen to songs+charge it. So it goes really hot as it shouldn't because I'm not doing any big tasks. So one day I just left it on charging with music on. It went to 42 and it came back to 35. Now while listening to songs and charging my op barely goes to 35.
I don't know if it's a good.fix or.not but it always works for me. I've tied this on my friends Moto x play too just 1 day ago and it worked like magic

Oneplus 5T suddenly lagging

Hi, so i've been using the Oneplus 5T for a year and just recently it started having issues with lag, making the phone unusable. I tried installing different roms without success(Oxygen OS Open Beta 23, Lineage OS 16, and Oxygen OS 5.1.4) and i have no idea what is causing it. This issue began while i was on the OOS beta 23 and it wasn't rooted, it just started behaving that way suddenly i didn't drop it or anything, also the screen blinks and start doing weird things sometimes. Did anyone had this issue? And what can be causing it? Thanks
Link to a video of my problem: https://youtu.be/17LOiftTf8w

Found the issue. Apparently it's caused by google play services, if i clear the data of the app the phone works fine and as soon as i install something from the store it starts lagging again

I always have this issue after finishing a clean setup on oxygen os beta. One restart for me solves and never returns.

same here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/help/help-op5t-lagging-ang-static-screen-t3894594

freyrnygaard said:
I always have this issue after finishing a clean setup on oxygen os beta. One restart for me solves and never returns.
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Weird, i have this issue on every rom and restarting doesn't fix it, even the boot animation lags

gondia said:
same here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/help/help-op5t-lagging-ang-static-screen-t3894594
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If you find a solution please let me know i ran out of ideas my fix with the play services stopped working, thanks

What the hell is that lag issue seriously ??
I was thinking to flash a custom kernel and ROM but would it solve the issue ?
And the issue is completely random as well.

I have the exact same issue. Starts when i download something from playstore, open camera after a while or transfer big files e.g transferring data through oneplus switch. I have tried everything i could and didnt help. Upgrades, downgrades, root, trimming storage, clearing cache etc. Nothing is helping. If anyone finds a solution please tell me too. Really frustrated ?

The problem occured on official ROM but it comes back even on Lineage OS 16 (official too).
Do you think it could be a hardware issue ? If not, how come this problem happens even when flashing an other ROM ?

meresis said:
The problem occured on official ROM but it comes back even on Lineage OS 16 (official too).
Do you think it could be a hardware issue ? If not, how come this problem happens even when flashing an other ROM ?
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when this problem starts to me on the first time I flash an asop and for 4 weeks the problem solved and after that, its happen again till now on the last beta the problem happened to me once or twice a day.

gondia said:
when this problem starts to me on the first time I flash an asop and for 4 weeks the problem solved and after that, its happen again till now on the last beta the problem happened to me once or twice a day.
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For me it lags all the time, the phone is unusuable. I can reboot, flash a new ROM ... nothing will solve it.
I had this problem for almost 3 weeks and no fix from Oneplus, so I will buy a new phone.

juanval1 said:
Weird, i have this issue on every rom and restarting doesn't fix it, even the boot animation lags
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I had the same issue 2 months ago, I tried everything to fix the problem even did hard reset using oneplus' official program and it didn't work.
I came to a conclusion that it's a hardware issue so I sent my phone to repair and one week later I got my phone back fixed.
I recommend you to do the same if you still have warranty, the whole process took only one week. The customer service is really good.

Same problem here, my phone lags like a hell. Running omnirom pie

EugenStanis said:
Same problem here, my phone lags like a hell. Running omnirom pie
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Is it like on the video that op posted?

Supersaan said:
Is it like on the video that op posted?
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Not that much. I mean i can use my phone normally, but sometimes it lags a lot (not like in video, but still)

EugenStanis said:
Not that much. I mean i can use my phone normally, but sometimes it lags a lot (not like in video, but still)
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Maybe try to reset your phone by using MsmDownloadTool, if that doesn't fix your problem then it must be a hardware issue.

Supersaan said:
Maybe try to reset your phone by using MsmDownloadTool, if that doesn't fix your problem then it must be a hardware issue.
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Yeah i have done that, did not help me.

adeelazmat said:
I have the exact same issue. Starts when i download something from playstore, open camera after a while or transfer big files e.g transferring data through oneplus switch. I have tried everything i could and didnt help. Upgrades, downgrades, root, trimming storage, clearing cache etc. Nothing is helping. If anyone finds a solution please tell me too. Really frustrated
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Yup also when you try to uninstall apps, i even tried running no gapps and that didn't help either

Supersaan said:
I had the same issue 2 months ago, I tried everything to fix the problem even did hard reset using oneplus' official program and it didn't work.
I came to a conclusion that it's a hardware issue so I sent my phone to repair and one week later I got my phone back fixed.
I recommend you to do the same if you still have warranty, the whole process took only one week. The customer service is really good.
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The problem is that (not only i lost the warranty) but i'm not from the USA and sending them the phone is kind of hard and expensive, to the point that i think buying a new phone is cheaper. I reached to support anyways but i'm still waiting for a response after 3 days. What did they change on your phone?

juanval1 said:
The problem is that (not only i lost the warranty) but i'm not from the USA and sending them the phone is kind of hard and expensive, to the point that i think buying a new phone is cheaper. I reached to support anyways but i'm still waiting for a response after 3 days. What did they change on your phone?
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I don't know what did they replace I didn't get any information about that. The screen is the same though they didn't change it, my guesses are either it's the motherboard or the motherboard to screen connector (it's called main flex I think, you can get on for about 3$)

Erratic ram management in Android 10

Hey guys, I have updated to Android 10 from quite a sometime now(was a beta tester) and was noticing that device practically become usable after a few days of usage. Keyboard stops popping up, apps get killed in background and so on..
This issue gets fixed by a restart though. Has anyone else noticed something similar?

I am also facing issues after Android 10 update. Please let me know if you find permanent fix or solution.

Yes, same here. I reverted back to Pie. I thought I was the only one!
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

Nope, you are not alone :crying:
i can confirm the exact same issue since OTA update to Android 10 on S9 (DBT). currently with second minor Update to DTAD build problem still there. Tried different things to work around but yet nothing helped. i assume it has something to do with memory leak on swap partition. memoryinfo & swapcheck app always show 0 byte free swap memory which cannot be freed again when this occurs. As stated before, only reset phone helps, but after 24h its the same. struggling with this since the first Q Update Version. Any suggestions highly appreciated.
Olioaglio

Auto-restart every morning

I didn't find any issue, and I didn't factory reset my device after installing the update. My phone runs quite smoothly, no issues whatsoever.
The only minor bug is that the transition animation of the clock from the lock screen to the always on display is laggy, and sometimes the instructions like "hold your phone more upright" get stuck on the always on display. I hope this will get fixed in the next update.

@icoolguy1995
any news on this issue? Perhaps it's any app or launcher or tool some of us use in common, since it seems not everyone is affected. i have to admit, that i have really a ton of apps on my device and freqently use it. But I already had the same conditions on Pie and there never run in this lag problem,so....
Cheers, Olioaglio

Olioaglio said:
@icoolguy1995
any news on this issue? Perhaps it's any app or launcher or tool some of us use in common, since it seems not everyone is affected. i have to admit, that i have really a ton of apps on my device and freqently use it. But I already had the same conditions on Pie and there never run in this lag problem,so....
Cheers, Olioaglio
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Well I am still researching about this issue. I reported this issue couple of times to Samsung during beta testing; they said, they are unable to reproduce this issue neither they are able to see it on logs which I have sent. For me, the issue starts to appear after 91 hours of usage without a restart. Weirdly, using any keyboard other than Samsung Keyboard seems to help somewhat. I tried using Gboard and the issue somewhat mitigated but still annoying enough.
Did you guys tried reflashing the firmware using Odin?

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Did you guys tried reflashing the firmware using Odin?
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No, i didn't. But, out of sudden since a few days the low memory bug seems gone However, i am not aware that i did something to affect this
how about you?
Olioaglio

Olioaglio said:
No, i didn't. But, out of sudden since a few days the low memory bug seems gone However, i am not aware that i did something to affect this
how about you?
Olioaglio
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I have reflash the firmware because it was getting unbearable. It's been 3 days, no issues yet. Will keep you guys updated.

I just cleared the System Chache and my phone is working fine now.

Same issue here. After android 10 update it's laggy as hell. Android auto crashes randomly. Spotify stops working..

Olioaglio said:
No, i didn't. But, out of sudden since a few days the low memory bug seems gone However, i am not aware that i did something to affect this
how about you?
Olioaglio
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No effect of reflashing. Same issue popup up after 4-5 days. I wonder if this is more like a hardware related issue then software?

No, i don't think so.

Got a new update, it made issue worse. Now, instead of 90 hours free of system killing spree I am getting 70 around-ish hours with good ram management. So my workaround for this is now to set auto restart in 3 days interval.

Olioaglio said:
No, i didn't. But, out of sudden since a few days the low memory bug seems gone However, i am not aware that i did something to affect this
how about you?
Olioaglio
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Did you change your default keyboard?

icoolguy1995 said:
Did you change your default keyboard?
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yeah, i use SwiftKey since ages.

Two updates passed (currently on G960FXXS9DTD7), so far so good (despite no mention in the changelog).