Hello all. Looking into purchasing a pad 5 with 256gb storage global version.
Question is can a 3rd party launcher like Nova launcher for example be install and set as default without issue? Or would it be better with gsi custom ROM?
From what I read Pixel experience 11+ with audio stutter fix and Bluetooth audio fix is best? Did tap to wake ever get fix?
Thanks for the help
wally86 said:
Hello all. Looking into purchasing a pad 5 with 256gb storage global version.
Question is can a 3rd party launcher like Nova launcher for example be install and set as default without issue? Or would it be better with gsi custom ROM?
From what I read Pixel experience 11+ with audio stutter fix and Bluetooth audio fix is best? Did tap to wake ever get fix?
Thanks for the help
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pe11 gsi is discontinued. so no, unless someone port it.
What about using nova launcher as default without issue?
wally86 said:
What about using nova launcher as default without issue?
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I use nova, it's perfekt but Navigation gestgure doesn't work.
I use nova with fng for navigation gesture without any issue.
I'm also using Nova Launcher Prime without issues; i use the gestures to lock the screen.
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Been struggling with this lawnchair, nova, and pretty much every launcher i tried disables the gestures and reverts me back to 3 button navigation bar..
Any suggestions?
Funny thing is, it works fine as long as i don't set nova\lawnchair as a default - i can continue using those launchers + gestures.
Why would this funky behavior be?
masri1987 said:
Been struggling with this lawnchair, nova, and pretty much every launcher i tried disables the gestures and reverts me back to 3 button navigation bar..
Any suggestions?
Funny thing is, it works fine as long as i don't set nova\lawnchair as a default - i can continue using those launchers + gestures.
Why would this funky behavior be?
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Search please. This has been talked about. Gestures are disabled for anything other then stock launcher
c_86 said:
Search please. This has been talked about. Gestures are disabled for anything other then stock launcher
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yeah i know and i'm wondering why?
and why does it work when i use 3rd party launchers without setting it as default?
masri1987 said:
yeah i know and i'm wondering why?
and why does it work when i use 3rd party launchers without setting it as default?
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It's just the way Google programmed it. Ask Google.
masri1987 said:
Been struggling with this lawnchair, nova, and pretty much every launcher i tried disables the gestures and reverts me back to 3 button navigation bar..
Any suggestions?
Funny thing is, it works fine as long as i don't set nova\lawnchair as a default - i can continue using those launchers + gestures.
Why would this funky behavior be?
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My guess is it has to do with the way the new gestures and their animations integrate with the launcher (the app minimizing to the icon on the home screen when swiping up, etc.) and they're working on 3rd party support for that. They said it'd be in a post-launch update, but there's no ETA on that yet.
As much as I want to use Nova Launcher, it's just not as smooth and quick as the stock Pixel Launcher. Anyone else feel this way? At the same time, I have a love/hate relationship with Pixel Launcher because I love having the icon unread notification numbers on Nova as well as being able to change the home screen grid size. In the end, though, Nova is just not as quick loading apps and the app drawer.
I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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Same here.
U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.
Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep or magisk.
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Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep.
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Fully aware, just providing more options
I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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In my opinion, the warning is wrong. Back when I first got my phone, like half of the gestures didn't quite work. Now everything works for me.
At Nova's homescreen...
Swipe from side: Isn't triggered because you can't go back from home. Just flips pages.
Swipe from bottom: Opens app search. I'm not sure if the gesture is doing this or Nova is.
Swipe from bottom & hold: Opens recents.
Swipe from corner: Shows assistant overlay.
Everything basic works. I don't have palm swipe screenshots enabled.
My issue with Nova is the delay going back to the home screen. I can't immediately open another app. I always have to wait an extra second or click on app twice before it opens. I want the full pixel experience and it seems that Nova doesn't always deliver on it. I do occasionally go back to it until I get annoyed with my first statement.
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Honestly, I've never noticed this. I guess I go home before I know what I want to click on and so I'm never quick enough to see it.
The way it's acting, it reminds me of a paused activity that needs to refresh when the app gets restored. I tried to disable battery optimization for Nova, but it didn't help. I'm not sure how to solve that.
I tried the same test on my old phone and pressing the home button actually does nothing for a split second, then Nova shows and responds immediately. But when you gesture, you want it to happen immediately... not a split second later. So in that way, Android 10 and Nova do the sensible thing and shows the paused activity.
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Can you provide a link please?
I was using Nova Launche a lot of time ago! let's going to check how does it works now!
I have no reason to use any other launcher than pixel launcher. It works just as I need.
not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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I just switched back to Nova from Lawnchair on both my S20+ and Pixel 4XL. Nova works beautiful now and Nova Google Companion works with dark mode.
I'm on Android 11 Beta and am running Nova with no problems with gestures at all. For some reason on 10 they were not working as smooth and I would get some lag going back to the home screen. On 11, those problems have seemed to disappear.
While that's true, the closing app animation is not there and feels weird. ( Using gesture navigation )
I just noticed there's some lag in Mi 10T when using Nova Launcher as the default launcher. For example, when changing apps in multitasking or going back to homescreen.
Also, when Nova Launcher is set as default, you lose the gesture to go to the previous app swiping up from the bottom and then right.
Any solutions?
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I just noticed there's some lag in Mi 10T when using Nova Launcher as the default launcher. For example, when changing apps in multitasking or going back to homescreen.
Also, when Nova Launcher is set as default, you lose the gesture to go to the previous app swiping up from the bottom and then right.
Any solutions?
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Gestures don't work at all in custom launchers, that's a limitation of android 10, and 11, and without rooting there is no solution for now. As for lagginess that's again using other launchers. Try and find one that doesn't lag (nova doesn't lag for me, but I'm using classic 3 buttons navigation because gesture nav doesn't work...)
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Gestures don't work at all in custom launchers, that's a limitation of android 10, and 11, and without rooting there is no solution for now. As for lagginess that's again using other launchers. Try and find one that doesn't lag (nova doesn't lag for me, but I'm using classic 3 buttons navigation because gesture nav doesn't work...)
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I am rooted. I have all navigation gestures working with Nova except the one I mentioned...
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I am rooted. I have all navigation gestures working with Nova except the one I mentioned...
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You have to find the way to get nova launcher to behave like system launcher (delete miui launcher and put nova in its place) to get gestures working. Check on internet, there's tons of guides on how to make system launcher, or maybe there is some magisk module that does that...
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You have to find the way to get nova launcher to behave like system launcher (delete miui launcher and put nova in its place) to get gestures working. Check on internet, there's tons of guides on how to make system launcher, or maybe there is some magisk module that does that...
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I just tried that and made Nova a system app, then I deleted MIUI Launcher. It behaves the same. Switch between apps from the bottom (Android 10 native gesture) is not working. I'll just have to stick with the MIUI Launcher then, though I hate to see icon labels in home screen...
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I just tried that and made Nova a system app, then I deleted MIUI Launcher. It behaves the same. Switch between apps from the bottom (Android 10 native gesture) is not working. I'll just have to stick with the MIUI Launcher then, though I hate to see icon labels in home screen...
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I feel your pain.
Same deal on my Note 10+... those damn white labels. That's all I wanted to change.
Nova Launcher does slow it down as do many others if it already has a good stock launcher as the 10+ actually does.
Nova used a lot more resources/battery than stock too.
Take any launcher instability seriously.
After hyperion boot looped me twice, yes two full reloads worth of fun, I decided I could live with the white labels.
My need for speed and system stability is much greater...
Hi all
I've tried a couple of alternative launchers, Nova and Microsoft, and system navigation with gestures does not work in both cases.
Anyone with same issue? I'm on global 12.0.8.0
Really strange, again, because on my Poco X3 with MIUI 12 (Android 10) and Nova Launcher everything works fine...
Thanks
PS: I didn't know, but I just read that on Android 11 MIUI 12, Gestures are only available with stock launcher and it seems that Xiaomi is not going to solve it.
Very bad, also because if I try to use any side app to obtain same effect (Fluid n.g or Gestures control), every time I reboot I get the system navigation buttons again...
Hope that Xiaomi will fix it or that some launchers will find a solution.
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Hi all
I've tried a couple of alternative launchers, Nova and Microsoft, and system navigation with gestures does not work in both cases.
Anyone with same issue? I'm on global 12.0.8.0
Really strange, again, because on my Poco X3 with MIUI 12 (Android 10) and Nova Launcher everything works fine...
Thanks
PS: I didn't know, but I just read that on Android 11 MIUI 12, Gestures are only available with stock launcher and it seems that Xiaomi is not going to solve it.
Very bad, also because if I try to use any side app to obtain same effect (Fluid n.g or Gestures control), every time I reboot I get the system navigation buttons again...
Hope that Xiaomi will fix it or that some launchers will find a solution.
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I was able to get around this problem with an app called Fluid N.G. It works very well for me, of course after setting up autostart, unlimited battery access etc. Besides, it has a ton of extra options to apply custom gesture settings. After a reboot, just switch from buttons to gestures - not ideal solution, but better than none.
I have tried various lauchers and all of them seem to have this same issue. When on home sceen I can't access recent apps with any 3rd party laucher. Is this a issue with my particular device? I am pretty sure it is no bug from the launcher as i have tried various launchers all of them have this same issue. Is there a fix for this as I don't like samsungs stock launcher.
Edit: The recent app window is working but has a delay of like 2seco ds
Anyone with the fix for this?
One UI is the best launcher to use on a Samsung.
What are the problems you have with it?
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One UI is the best launcher to use on a Samsung.
What are the problems you have with it?
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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May need to wait for the 3rd party launchers to be updated.
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I have tried various lauchers and all of them seem to have this same issue. When on home sceen I can't access recent apps with any 3rd party laucher. Is this a issue with my particular device? I am pretty sure it is no bug from the launcher as i have tried various launchers all of them have this same issue. Is there a fix for this as I don't like samsungs stock launcher.
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I use Nova and Recent apps works. One thing I did notice was, if I debloat (i.e. disable) OneUI Home then recent apps dont work on Nova launcher.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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For me, the recent apps are working and I'm on the stock OS One UI!
Nova launcher works for recent apps. But the gesture is not as fluid as it would be with the stock launcher. Try using good lock app and customize with one handed operation.
What do you mean by 'customize with one handed operation'? What does that have to do with the gesture?
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What do you mean by 'customize with one handed operation'? What does that have to do with the gesture?
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That's what it does, uses swipe gestures from R/L sides to control multiple user selected functions including navigation and apps.
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That's what it does, uses swipe gestures from R/L sides to control multiple user selected functions including navigation and apps.
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Thanks! Tried it since my message yesterday, and it works good.
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Thanks! Tried it since my message yesterday, and it works good.
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You're welcome. It's a great app especially suited to nest in the curve of the screen. The curved screen starts to make sense...
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You're welcome. It's a great app especially suited to nest in the curve of the screen. The curved screen starts to make sense...
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I have the S22 base model, but I understand what you mean.
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I have the S22 base model, but I understand what you mean.
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That might be for the better; the S22U screens seem to be breaking rather easily from short drops.
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There is no problem with the launcher. I am used to vertical scrolling and stock like feel as i had a 6t. I want a similar experience here. One UI might be the best but point is I can't change is due to this recent app bug.
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What launcher are you using? I'm using Microsoft Launcher and the Recent Apps function works fine.
Recent apps are working but there is a delay in opening the window on all 3rd party lauchers!