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Questions regarding rooting.

I've got a nexus 7 (2013) on android 6.0. Over the two years I've spent with it, I've ran into many features that require root. Now I've finally decided to do it. Right now, I'm doing it for the multi window thing.
Q.1: How long will Nexus 7 OTA updates continue to come?
Q.2: Will I get a notification that I got a system update if I'm rooted? And will I be able to keep my root while updating?
Q.3: I found a way for rooting the Nexus on Lollipop through one click( I think wugtoolkit). Will it work on Marshmallow? If not, whats the easiest way, preferably without connecting it to a computer?
Q.4: Any risks or cons? I've heard its impossible to brick a Nexus, is it true?
Thanks 

Tranquility. said:
I've got a nexus 7 (2013) on android 6.0. Over the two years I've spent with it, I've ran into many features that require root. Now I've finally decided to do it. Right now, I'm doing it for the multi window thing.
Q.1: How long will Nexus 7 OTA updates continue to come?
Q.2: Will I get a notification that I got a system update if I'm rooted? And will I be able to keep my root while updating?
Q.3: I found a way for rooting the Nexus on Lollipop through one click( I think wugtoolkit). Will it work on Marshmallow? If not, whats the easiest way, preferably without connecting it to a computer?
Q.4: Any risks or cons? I've heard its impossible to brick a Nexus, is it true?
Thanks 
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I'm not a dev, but I have some experience rooting the N7 (2012 and 2013).
1) Well, it looks like 6.0 isn't coming to the N7 2012, so there is a good chance support for major versions will be dropped soon (within the next year?). They might continue to release patches and security fixes for 6.x a year or two after that, like they appear to be doing with the N7 2012, but this is all speculation. There are probably number crunchers looking at the sales figures and survey results to gauge interest, and there were some rumors recently of a new N7 possibly in the works. Those will both factor into whether support will continue.
2) You will get a notification, but everything I've seen has indicated that the install will fail (won't brick the tablet, but will just show an error and reboot to its previous state). What I think most people do, including me, is just flash the stock image in 'no wipe' mode and re-root after the update. You can also sideload the OTA update, depending on rooting method (I think, but haven't done this myself). Lastly, if you don't mind reconfiguring all your apps or if you have a good backup scheme, you can just do a fresh install then root. I have never had trouble flashing stock in no-wipe and re-rooting, but I've heard some people have had problems. (It's worth noting that if your bootloader hasn't been unlocked, you will have to wipe the device anyways. The unlocking survives flashing, so it's a 'one and done' thing. You only really need to lock it again if you're sending it in for warranty service.)
3) Wug's toolkit is currently borked for most people (version 2.0.6), so avoid it until the thread in the N7 development subforum has some success stories. Also, rooting in Marshmallow is possible, but seek out instructions specifically for M and use the latest versions of any linked utilities (like SuperSU and TWRP). I used Wug's toolkit 90% of the time for updating and rooting, and when it works, it's a breeze. It might be worth waiting for it to be updated to address the current issues. You can use the previous version to do some basic things and as a launchpad for manual tweaking, but the main, one click and done options will not work - I tried and was greeted with a bootloop due to an out of date SuperSU. But, in version 2.0.5 you can unlock the bootloader and flash the latest stock (haven't tried the U or V versions, but MRA58K worked fine). From there you have to root mostly manually, but there are shortcuts for some of the steps in the Advanced Utilities section.
4) It's always possible to brick a device, but it's very rare. There are 2 kinds of 'bricks'. 'Hard' brick is what most people worry about - something happens that prevents access to even the lowest level of the device. It's as if there was a hardware failure. 'Soft' bricking is what less tech literate people equate to hard bricking because to them the device is useless. In reality, it's a software issue that prevents some early stage of the boot up process. It is almost always recoverable with enough time and research. In basic computer terms, hard bricking is failing to post and soft bricking is failure of the OS to load (basically, though there are nuances). With root, you have access to everything and you're trusting whatever you install that takes advantage of that power to use it wisely. An ad blocker shouldn't need to adjust the CPU voltages. This is rare if you don't intend to overclock or mess with low level hardware tweaks. It is much more likely, but still pretty rare, to soft brick the device, which means you just have to reflash the system image. Worst case is you have to wipe the device and start over, or spend a few hours researching exactly what caused it.
Hope that helps. I'm not an obsessive ROM flasher and my experience has been only with Nexus devices, but these are my impressions.

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
1) I was under the impression that 6.0 would be the last updated for Nexus 7. Guess I'm wrong.
2) How long would "flashing the stock image in no wipe mode" take?
3) I'll wait then for an updated version ._.
4) Guess if I follow the steps correctly that won't happen. Prepared to take the risk.

Tranquility. said:
Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
1) I was under the impression that 6.0 would be the last updated for Nexus 7. Guess I'm wrong.
2) How long would "flashing the stock image in no wipe mode" take?
3) I'll wait then for an updated version ._.
4) Guess if I follow the steps correctly that won't happen. Prepared to take the risk.
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Android M is the last official update for N7 2013, the first gen N7 is done with updates. Once rooted you will not get any OTA updates anyway.
Flashing usually takes about 3-4 minutes. Booting up can take up to 10-15 min.
Just don't root on M until a stable method has been discovered.

Kay thanks.
Could you please update me when a stable way is found? Or at least provide a link where I can check myself.

You can check the marshmallow and the beta thread for updates. http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu

Tranquility. said:
Kay thanks.
Could you please update me when a stable way is found? Or at least provide a link where I can check myself.
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You can root 6.0 pretty easy if you have fastboot installed. I've done it and can confirm it works. You just need to download the ElementalX-N7 kernel and SuperSU to your device then flash TWRP in fastboot then flash the kernel and SuperSU in TWRP. There are threads on here I believe with instructions to help you. If you need any help you can message me.

The beta SuperSU and elementalx method worked great for me and seems totally stable. I'd recommend learning fastboot/adb as mentioned. That has saved me a few times from the dumb things I've done messing around with root access.
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Rooting
As I mentioned in a previous post rooting using TWRP, SU I don't think fully roots
the device. When I loaded Multi-Rom, it installed in the usual fashion but only boots to the TWRP recovery utility.
In the past, one could globally root the device but the problem appears new.
Kurt

Root & Rom Advice from the Ground Up

I need some help and I've looked all over but the information is fragmented and there is too many unfamiliar acronyms used which make it incredibly difficult for some like myself to catch up. So for the benefit of others who may be new I wanted to get some additional guidance.
I got the Pixel XL Google Version
Objectives:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
2. Native Mobile Hotspot
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc..
4. Stay close to stock if possible, but willing to explore other options as long as security is trusted, and has good
compatibility.
5. Security is a concern, I tried a rom in the past with a Galaxy S4 and swear it had a backdoor installed in the rom.
What do you guys recommend? And how do I go about doing it?
Thank you!

If security is truly a concern you will not unlock your bootloader and root your phone.
Otherwise it all depends on which version phone you have, Verizon or Google?

1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.

mikaole said:
1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
I have the Pixel XL - Google Version
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.
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My point about security really was that it's quite possible a ROM could have a backdoor. That a side..
Root is not a big security issue for me as long as the rom is trusted etc..
Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?

jadensmith said:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
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It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc.
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FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
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Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?
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While reading I got the impression that I might be able to uninstall SuperSU and use the OTA update, but that didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presume something SuperSU changed or something I did with root must have caused the update to fail. I haven't read the Magisk threads as much, yet I've seen that other SuperSU users also indicate that OTA updates no longer worked for them after rooting the phone.

alluringreality said:
It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
That didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presumed that something I did with root must have caused the update to fail to install.
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Wow thanks for the great reply! It's so refreshing!
What do you mean by root one slot?

The phone has two "slots" for Android. The basic idea is that you have two copies of Android on the phone that share the same user data. On a stock phone it's intended to allow for less noticeable updates, and it also can allow the phone to fall back to the previous software version if something goes wrong with an update. On the May update my phone did automatically switch between slots, due to what is discussed in the second link below. The first link below gives some information and additional links to discussion about the slots on these phones.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-partition-changes-and-new-fastboot-commands/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606

Is it possible to keep stock or near stock and just have root with the ability to hide root, and hotspot?
That's all I really need. What would be the best way to to do this?

Unroot HTC 10 to Get Oreo

Hi,
My HTC 10 is rooted, S-On, SU, boot loader unlocked, and running stock Nougat 7.0. As such, it doesn't get onlver the air {OTA}. I want OREO, and I understand that requires me to unroot. How do I unroot?
I hope to do an OTA and then reroot. If I really don't have to unroot, tell me please what to do to get OREO. My main attraction to rooting is to install AdAway.
Thanks,
Ndmand

These are what I did;
1. restore my stock rom via TWRP (which I backed-up long time ago)
2. flash back stock recovery (which I found form XDA). It will replace TWRP
3. OEM relocked
By then, I could get couple OTAs until I reach to Oreo.
After that, I went all the ways again => unlock bootloader (HtcDev) => flash latest TWRP => and so on.

Ndmand said:
Hi,
My HTC 10 is rooted, S-On, SU, boot loader unlocked, and running stock Nougat 7.0. As such, it doesn't get onlver the air {OTA}. I want OREO, and I understand that requires me to unroot. How do I unroot?
I hope to do an OTA and then reroot. If I really don't have to unroot, tell me please what to do to get OREO. My main attraction to rooting is to install AdAway.
Thanks,
Ndmand
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You really only need steps 1 and 2 from bita's post. If you don't have a stock system backup you can probably find one in the Backups thread.
Else, you can flash an ruu which will take you back fully stock but will also wipe your phone in the process.

bita said:
These are what I did;
1. restore my stock rom via TWRP (which I backed-up long time ago)
2. flash back stock recovery (which I found form XDA). It will replace TWRP
3. OEM relocked
By then, I could get couple OTAs until I reach to Oreo.
After that, I went all the ways again => unlock bootloader (HtcDev) => flash latest TWRP => and so on.
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Thank You,
This is exactly what I need. I interpret "OEM relocked" to mean that after flashing, you system was relocked, and you didn't have to separately relock your bootloader. I appreciate your help.
Ndmand

Tarima said:
You really only need steps 1 and 2 from bita's post. If you don't have a stock system backup you can probably find one in the Backups thread.
Else, you can flash an ruu which will take you back fully stock but will also wipe your phone in the process.
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Great, Thank You, Tarima,
Oddly, I was hoping you'd see my post because if the great help you have given to others. I deleted my stock backup by mistake last year.
My TWRP and Titanium backups are on an SD card, so I will remove the card to protect them during the process in case things go crazy.
I noticed that SU has an unroot button, but I guess that only covers part of the process.
Thank You,
Ndmand

Ndmand said:
Great, Thank You, Tarima,
Oddly, I was hoping you'd see my post because if the great help you have given to others. I deleted my stock backup by mistake last year.
My TWRP and Titanium backups are on an SD card, so I will remove the card to protect them during the process in case things go crazy.
I noticed that SU has an unroot button, but I guess that only covers part of the process.
Thank You,
Ndmand
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No problem. Yes, once you root with superSU, your system partition will be flagged permanently as modified even if you unroot. That's why you need to flash a virgin system backup image. This is also why I root with Magisk, as it makes taking OTA much easier. You may want to consider that as well when you root again.

I don't quite understand Magisk yet, but I will look into it. Thanks for making this doable and understandable.
Ndmand

Do a RUU and update ota , no need to relock bootloader, you will lose data if you do RUU

Which RUU is the right for the Oreo OTA?
I have installed the developer version, but I haven't received it. Also I knew that HTC had removed the OTA
Enviado desde mi HTC 10 mediante Tapatalk

oxineitor said:
Which RUU is the right for the Oreo OTA?
I have installed the developer version, but I haven't received it. Also I knew that HTC had removed the OTA
Enviado desde mi HTC 10 mediante Tapatalk
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U.S Unlocked has not yet received OTA. To go to Oreo you'll have to run the RUU.
Take the RUU posted by santod on this page:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297/page254

Newbie Here
Hi guys,
For several years now I've been getting help from you people and for that I am very appreciative. This is my first, of what I hope are many more posts.
I recently purchased a Sprint HTC 10 phone here in the Dominican Republic. It was factory unlocked already. It came with stock Oreo software. Yesterday I received an Oreo update, and this immediately locked my phone sim. I couldn't use it. Now thanks to you guys, I slept like at 1 am, but finally managed to get the phone unlocked thanks to this thread.
Now I have a problem. I'm not that of a techie guy to leave the phone rooted. Is it wise to unrooted back again? My main concern is, if I unroot the phone it will revert to having the sim lock, and that's a no go. So my question is: Do I unrooted? Can I, without damaging the phone? And if the answer is no, how do I proceed with my rooted phone to get the best out of it? I saw this video on youtube, it seems nice, but it is from 2015. Do I follow those steps or do something else to take advantage of my rooted device.
I would really appreciate your help.

Yank1llaz said:
Hi guys,
For several years now I've been getting help from you people and for that I am very appreciative. This is my first, of what I hope are many more posts.
I recently purchased a Sprint HTC 10 phone here in the Dominican Republic. It was factory unlocked already. It came with stock Oreo software. Yesterday I received an Oreo update, and this immediately locked my phone sim. I couldn't use it. Now thanks to you guys, I slept like at 1 am, but finally managed to get the phone unlocked thanks to this thread.
Now I have a problem. I'm not that of a techie guy to leave the phone rooted. Is it wise to unrooted back again? My main concern is, if I unroot the phone it will revert to having the sim lock, and that's a no go. So my question is: Do I unrooted? Can I, without damaging the phone? And if the answer is no, how do I proceed with my rooted phone to get the best out of it? I saw this video on youtube, it seems nice, but it is from 2015. Do I follow those steps or do something else to take advantage of my rooted device.
I would really appreciate your help.
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The only downside to being rooted is that you won't be able to take OTA updates any longer, or use certain apps that don't work with rooted devices (mostly banking apps). I'm almost 100% sure we won't get any more OTA updates for this phone, so unless you really need to use banking apps, I would leave the device rooted. Plus there are some nice things you can do while being rooted.
If you're rooted with Magisk you can still do all of the above.

Tarima said:
The only downside to being rooted is that you won't be able to take OTA updates any longer, or use certain apps that don't work with rooted devices (mostly banking apps). I'm almost 100% sure we won't get any more OTA updates for this phone, so unless you really need to use banking apps, I would leave the device rooted. Plus there are some nice things you can do while being rooted.
If you're rooted with Magisk you can still do all of the above.
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Thx Tarima. If so, what can I do with a rooted device? What are my inmediate options to upgrade the phone. Any ideas?

I thought you could take OTA?
I am WAY out of the info as I don't take them, but I'll search a little an come back with any findings.

andybones said:
I thought you could take OTA?
I am WAY out of the info as I don't take them, but I'll search a little an come back with any findings.
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Unless you're rooted with Magisk systemless root, you can't take OTA from a rooted state until you restore a stock system image, which I'm thinking might undo the SIM unlock procedure the OP had to do on his Sprint device.
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Yank1llaz said:
Thx Tarima. If so, what can I do with a rooted device? What are my inmediate options to upgrade the phone. Any ideas?
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That's what I was saying, there will 99% for sure be no other updates for this phone, so that's a non-issue. And if there is, you can run an RUU, return to stock, take the update, then do the sim unlock procedure again.
I do with root:
- Use Titanium Backup (great app backup app)
- Use F.lux app for blue light reduction
- Use Adaway ad blocker

Tarima said:
I do with root:
- Use Titanium Backup (great app backup app)
- Use F.lux app for blue light reduction
- Use Adaway ad blocker
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Process for those. Sorry for being such a pain in the behind.

Yank1llaz said:
Process for those. Sorry for being such a pain in the behind.
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What do you mean by "process for those"? They're apps, you just install them from the play store
Actually I think Adaway needs to be downloaded from their own site

Tarima said:
What do you mean by "process for those"? They're apps, you just install them from the play store
Actually I think Adaway needs to be downloaded from their own site
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Downloaded the one for blue light. How about the adaway one? When dowloading the files within the app, it does not allow me and reads:
"copying of host file failed"

Yank1llaz said:
Downloaded the one for blue light. How about the adaway one? When dowloading the files within the app, it does not allow me and reads:
"copying of host file failed"
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Sorry not sure about that, you'll have to ask in the appropriate forum.

Oneplus 5t security updates vs custom ROM newbie

Hi I've never wanted to root or custom ROM. I read the instructions and they are pages deep and the issues that come up and are discussed in threads have such confusing back and forth discussions using lingo and abbreviations that make my head spin.
However... Oneplus did their last update on my 5t my fourth oneplus phone... With an already old security update.
Is the only way to not throw away a perfectly working, phone with good Ram and a fairly new battery I paid to have installed just months ago?
If I'm wanting to hold on another year or 2 use the only option custom ROMs that contain security updates?
Is there a way to add security updates without a ROM? Or maybe at least just learn to root and then add just updates or is it only in ROMs?
I could probably happily use my phone as is but worried what effect no security updates really is to my use.
I really tried videos on doing so this myself I'm not comfortable if problems happen. Not very techy.
Any help appreciated

Unfortunately you can no longer get security updates once your device is deemed as old.
Your options will be to get an antivirus app on your phone, install a custom ROM (like LOS or pixel exp), or you can get a new phone.
Since you're new to this stuff I highly recommend you just get a new phone or simply install an antivirus.
Not sure which anti virus is better than which. But I'm confident in Avira, McAfee, and Norton. You may want to purchase their plan though.
Hope I helped.

Thanks alot for the reply. I'll start with an antivirus.

Hello,
I have similar issue, since I would need security patch update to keep running company mails and apps.
I have 2 doubts:
- if I root and install Android 11 custom ROM, security patches will be updated too?
- after this, would I be able to unroot and install company mail apps ( if rooted they will not work) ?
Thanks

Personally I think that your company has put an unfair burden on you to run company mail and apps on your personal phone while expecting you to have an updated phone at the same time. An updated phone should have been "given" to you.
That being said, you can actually flash and run a custom rom without root. Root is optional.
Process is as follows: (you'll need a PC for this)
1. Backup ALL your data
2. Unlock the bootloader
3. Install custom recovery and reboot to recovery
4. Wipe cache & system and format internal memory
5. Copy custom rom & gapps to internal memory
6. Flash custom rom & gapps and reboot system

miloinodense said:
Hello,
I have similar issue, since I would need security patch update to keep running company mails and apps.
I have 2 doubts:
- if I root and install Android 11 custom ROM, security patches will be updated too?
- after this, would I be able to unroot and install company mail apps ( if rooted they will not work) ?
Thanks
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Yes if you install custom ROM you'll have security updates. It doesn't have to be Android 11 and you don't need root to install a custom ROM.
Also make sure to follow a precise guide about it so you don't encounter any issues. Always make a backup even if you're 100% sure you won't need it.
As far as I know mail apps don't check the integrity or do a SafetyNet check, so even if you root or don't it will work fine.
If you mean banking apps then you can install some modules to bypass the check or just completely remove root. Assuming that you rooted the device.

It shows my lack of knowledge never ever did I think you could Flash a ROM without being rooted.
Thanks

I successfully installed custom ROM w/o root.
But regarding company mail apps, I would need to hide bootloader unlocked status.
maybe it's impossible, if someone has a good idea...

miloinodense said:
I successfully installed custom ROM w/o root.
But regarding company mail apps, I would need to hide bootloader unlocked status.
maybe it's impossible, if someone has a good idea...
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My banking apps working fine without root with crdroid 7.3 and flamegapps. Might work for your company mail app too.
Some roms readily hide bootloader status

Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.

miloinodense said:
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
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Hence that's why the burden should be on the company to provide the "up to date" phone

miloinodense said:
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
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And that's why the burden should be on the company to provide the "up to date" phone

miloinodense said:
Thanks for the hint, but these company mails apps are checking security patch date too. Last available for oneplus 5t are September 2020, and no further support from oneplus.
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I think if you change build.prop to some other phone with recent security patches you can bypass this.

XDHx86 said:
I think if you change build.prop to some other phone with recent security patches you can bypass this.
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Today, I was thinking that this could be good way.
Root, change build.prop, and then unroot.
If you have a link for a good tutorial on change bulid.prop would be nice, thanks.

miloinodense said:
Today, I was thinking that this could be good way.
Root, change build.prop, and then unroot.
If you have a link for a good tutorial on change bulid.prop would be nice, thanks.
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Just for update:
I tried to Root a stock ROM, edit build.prop (security patch date), unroot, and then lock bootloader.
But even if it was a stock ROM, OP5T was not booting.
Booloader was stopping boot since it was detecting a non-stock ROM.
Indeed, I had to unbrick OP5T since I was not possible to unlock bootloader.
So, still not solved

miloinodense said:
Just for update:
I tried to Root a stock ROM, edit build.prop (security patch date), unroot, and then lock bootloader.
But even if it was a stock ROM, OP5T was not booting.
Booloader was stopping boot since it was detecting a non-stock ROM.
Indeed, I had to unbrick OP5T since I was not possible to unlock bootloader.
So, still not solved
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Just edit build.prop and use magisk hide module from magisk manager.

XDHx86 said:
Just edit build.prop and use magisk hide module from magisk manager.
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Edit build.prop w/o root and unlock bootloader is not possible...
Moreover, hiding root will not work with more recent android updates and for sure it will not hide unlock bootloader.

miloinodense said:
Edit build.prop w/o root and unlock bootloader is not possible...
Moreover, hiding root will not work with more recent android updates and for sure it will not hide unlock bootloader.
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Yeah I assumed you would know that you should root first. But seeing you even attempted to lock bootloader after modifying the device, seems I assumed wrong.
Magisk hide is working fine on later android versions like 8+. And for the bootloader it only trips CTS if your bootloader is using hardware backed key - Which is the case with OP5 - as CTS check also has hardware attestation. But it is possible to bypass said check by using SafetyNet Fix module, of course you will also install that from magisk manager.

Question Opt in / out of beta

So when I opted into A13 I got an update to A13 official, I think it was like 53mb or so so when I got that update I opted out, so should I receive official Otas now?

Yes. As long as you're not rooted, although there is still a chance with root that OTAs would still work, since Google managed to make the OTA to Stable Android 13 work on rooted devices. This was rare and not typical, but we shall still see if this was just one-time or how it will be from now on. I tend to believe it was one-time due to the severe bootloader security issue.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Yes. As long as you're not rooted, although there is still a chance with root that OTAs would still work, since Google managed to make the OTA to Stable Android 13 work on rooted devices. This was rare and not typical, but we shall still see if this was just one-time or how it will be from now on. I tend to believe it was one-time due to the severe bootloader security issue.
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Yeah I get yah! Thanks I was just wondering incase I didn't receive anything , non root, I think rooting now days is more hassle than anything, so much factory resetting and then issues with Otas and re rooting, my days of that are done, although I might tinker with my S21 at some point

kevinireland11 said:
Yeah I get yah! Thanks I was just wondering incase I didn't receive anything , non root, I think rooting now days is more hassle than anything, so much factory resetting and then issues with Otas and re rooting, my days of that are done, although I might tinker with my S21 at some point
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The only time I've factory reset while rooted on my Pixel 6 Pro in the last 10 months is when I accidentally forget to remove the "-w" from the factory image flash-all.bat. Same with my Pixel 1 that I used between 2016 and 2020.
I update my phone every month with no trouble, and I love the modifications that having root allows me. But yes, everyone has their particular root needs or not needs, so it all depends on what you want out of your device.
I also never use the OTA method to update, I use the (full) factory image instead.

roirraW edor ehT said:
The only time I've factory reset while rooted on my Pixel 6 Pro in the last 10 months is when I accidentally forget to remove the "-w" from the factory image flash-all.bat.
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I hate when that happens

Lughnasadh said:
I hate when that happens
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I blame the Verify/Verification disabling. I did that in the flash-all bat, then forgot about the usual -w. As you said: LOL!