Hello anyone have any updates as how will be able to have esim or second physical sim activated on 926w (Canada) bought direct from samsung ,all discussions seems to hit a dead end
I really need at least 2 sim on this phone and getting a international version is not an option anymore
Thanks for any input
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If you are in the USA, its not enabled. Samsung has told several people that it will be, once One UI 4.0 hits. We shall see
I lost hope on esim support for the U1 variant. Paying 2k for a phone and not having the option made me jump to the pixel 6 pro so I only have to carry one phone. Still holding onto the fold though in case it comes later on. If so, id jump from the pixel back to my fold.
What exactly is esim?
blizzyblake386 said:
What exactly is esim?
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What is an eSIM card? How will it impact you? | US Mobile
eSIM offers a new way to load carrier information onto your phone without using an external physical chip, enabling you to switch carriers on the spot.
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t3ch187 said:
I lost hope on esim support for the U1 variant. Paying 2k for a phone and not having the option made me jump to the pixel 6 pro so I only have to carry one phone. Still holding onto the fold though in case it comes later on. If so, id jump from the pixel back to my fold.
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As European customer with Dual-SIM and eSIM Fold3 I'm not familiar, how Samsung and US carriers deliver the Fold3 in the States. According to your post, your fold is a single SIM device, is that right? Or do you have a carrier, that delivers eSIM support only?
In the USA it is one sim slot only. No dual sim, no Esim. On all carriers. Even unlocked
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In the USA it is one sim slot only. No dual sim, no Esim. On all carriers. Even unlocked
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My like is a like for you but is actually a dislike for the content because it's STUPID that US does not use eSIM more widely.
Where eSIM's are used more than anything else in the US is for Watches. I have a Gear Watch 3 (my Watch 4 is BT only) and it ONLY comes in eSIM and my carrier (T-Mobile) didn't even blink and just activated it. So the SUPPORT IS THERE, just too lazy for widespread adoption.
Get rid of the SIM slot and one less place for dust/water to get in!!
Talderon said:
My like is a like for you but is actually a dislike for the content because it's STUPID that US does not use eSIM more widely.
Where eSIM's are used more than anything else in the US is for Watches. I have a Gear Watch 3 (my Watch 4 is BT only) and it ONLY comes in eSIM and my carrier (T-Mobile) didn't even blink and just activated it. So the SUPPORT IS THERE, just too lazy for widespread adoption.
Get rid of the SIM slot and one less place for dust/water to get in!!
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Also all iphones and all Pixels have Esim active
Forcing people to buy two phones instead of one amounts to big $$$
Markeee said:
Forcing people to buy two phones instead of one amounts to big $$$
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Ummm... this is AMERICA!! Where very company looks harder at the Bottom Line rather than do what's good for the customers or people...
Hell, all you have to do is look at our Medical Practices (Hospitals, insurance and most of all, Big Pharma) and you can CLEARLY see it's all about The Great Chase for the All Mighty Dollar...
But by not offering dual-SIM you loose dollars, because people buy iPhones and Pixels ...
Just got the second 4.0 update the Jan. Security update. Samsung still blocking US Esim support on the Fold 3
Markeee said:
Just got the second 4.0 update the Jan. Security update. Samsung still blocking US Esim support on the Fold 3
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Scamscum still blocking E-SIM? Ughhh. Glad I swapped my phone out for the Mexican Model.
Interesting, I thought Canada and Mexico have the same version phone and I know Canada does not have eSIM ability.
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Interesting, I thought Canada and Mexico have the same version phone and I know Canada does not have eSIM ability.
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Mexico has the International Version. Not the North American Version. I have the Mexican version and it has E-SIM
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Mexico has the International Version. Not the North American Version. I have the Mexican version and it has E-SIM
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How’s you find a Mexican onr
I can’t even order one to the us via the Samsung site. Idk? No where else seems available to ship to us
This Samsung store near me sell only international phones I'm sure they would ship u one just make sure what you buy will run on your carrier
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Anyone got t-mobile android 12 update? and can confirm no esim support whatsoever
Thanks
adika9 said:
Anyone got t-mobile android 12 update? and can confirm no esim support whatsoever
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Yup, and no eSIM support at all!
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The 4g variant is supposed to have esim yet I do not see anything in the settings to allow adding a new service.. Any clue about esim functionality?
I do not believe the U.S. version of the Galaxy Fold supports dual-sim; it only has one sim and it uses a nano-sim. Have you called AT&T to find out if there is in fact eSim support?
It definitely has an esim, you can see it imei in about phone.
Edit* That said i don't know how to use it.
mastibeta said:
It definitely has an esim, you can see it imei in about phone.
Edit* That said i don't know how to use it.
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To activate it you would need to call your carrier and provide the eSim IMEI number to them. The phone may support eSim but AT&T itself might not. I'd like to know though if they do coz' that's the only reason why I haven't purchased that phone yet. Other specs I read mentions both eSim and Nano Sim and calls it "Dual Sim" but for some reason for the Folds Best Buy and AT&T only labels it as "Single Sim". Samsungs USA website does the same thing but their international sites identifies the phone as eSim and Nano sim capable.
I believe all Fold LTE versions has the same hardware and only difference are carrier supported features.
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I believe all Fold LTE versions has the same hardware and only difference are carrier supported features.
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I know they don't plan on releasing the 5G version in the U.S. and only the LTE version but you are probably correct with your statement. The U.S. LTE version could be the same as the ones they are releasing across the world and supports dual sim but AT&T might not just support it. I guess will know for sure when someone calls AT&T's support and attempts to enable the eSim feature. I personally got mixed answers from reps at the stores as they are not too familiar with the Fold's feature yet. If it was a cheap phone I'd probably still try and take my chances but for a $2,000 phone I'd like to know for sure first that I can use the eSim and Nano sim on it and have two lines running before buying one.
We got our answer! Published just hours ago at PCMag: https://sea.pcmag.com/smartphones/34287/samsung-galaxy-fold
"The Samsung Galaxy Fold is available unlocked directly from Samsung Experience stores and some Best Buy locations, as well as locked to AT&T from some carrier stores. It works on all US networks and supports LTE bands 2/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/30/38/41/66/71. There's a nano SIM slot as well as an eSIM, though Samsung states the eSIM is only compatible with European carriers at this time"
There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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Good luck with "messing up the firmware" of you expensive Fold...
Just accept e-SIM is not activated in the US!
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There has to be a way to activate it, I wonder if we can find the info somewhere
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It won't hurt nor will it mess up your phone to try. T-mobile supports eSim for both postpaid and prepaid customers, Verizon supports it for postpaid, and AT&T (I believe) supports it for both prepaid and postpaid too. But since AT&T carries the Fold there may be a chance that it won't work with them. All they need is the IMEI of the eSim chip anyway, and all you need to do is provide it to them. If their systems accepts it then good but if not then you simply just continue using your nano sim.
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We got our answer! Published just hours ago at PCMag:
"The Samsung Galaxy Fold is available unlocked directly from Samsung Experience stores and some Best Buy locations, as well as locked to AT&T from some carrier stores. It works on all US networks and supports LTE bands 2/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/30/38/41/66/71. There's a nano SIM slot as well as an eSIM, though Samsung states the eSIM is only compatible with European carriers at this time"
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Thats wrong. Bought a Sm-F900F (U.K.) version unlocked thru amazon for U.S. use and got esim setup for tmobile.
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Thats wrong. Bought a Sm-F900F (U.K.) version unlocked thru amazon for U.S. use and got esim setup for tmobile.
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Looks like you didn't understand the thread or didn't read the PCMag article. The quote was accurate because it was referring to the U.S. version of the phone. You bought the U.K. version and that indeed is a dual-sim phone.
I actually personally verified that at a Best Buy store in the U.S. When I checked the network settings the eSim feature is grayed out. It is showing an IMEI but is grayed out and cannot be activate. I also got to touch the Singapore version which is a dual sim version like yours and that didn't have the eSim grayed out.
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Looks like you didn't understand the thread or didn't read the PCMag article. The quote was accurate because it was referring to the U.S. version of the phone. You bought the U.K. version and that indeed is a dual-sim phone.
I actually personally verified that at a Best Buy store in the U.S. When I checked the network settings the eSim feature is grayed out. It is showing an IMEI but is grayed out and cannot be activate. I also got to touch the Singapore version which is a dual sim version like yours and that didn't have the eSim grayed out.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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So..if i Odin flash the international firmware then the esim will work? Wheres the thread discussing this? I'm all in if true.
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Still wrongnIt's being software blocked on the att variant if you Odin flash a different firmware it works and many ppl have it running like att on reg sim and TMobile on esim there's even a whole tutorial on how to do it which I posted in a thread I created. Also if the phones didn't have esim there wouldn't be a esim IMEI in the about phone . American carriers are just greedy money hungry leeches.
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Well the article doesn't market to techies but normal people that would be buying the phone so it referred to the facts and facts are never wrong.
But I agree with you, the hardware is there and they are just greedy to not allow the eSim to be used. Where is that thread you said you created because I've been researching that method for quite sometime now and didn't find any? I don't even know a single person that has successfully flashed it and even went to Asian cellphone stores that does phone repairs and they couldn't flash the fold. I would love to read that thread if what you're saying is true.
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Well the article doesn't market to techies but normal people that would be buying the phone so it referred to the facts and facts are never wrong.
But I agree with you, the hardware is there and they are just greedy to not allow the eSim to be used. Where is that thread you said you created because I've been researching that method for quite sometime now and didn't find any? I don't even know a single person that has successfully flashed it and even went to Asian cellphone stores that does phone repairs and they couldn't flash the fold. I would love to read that thread if what you're saying is true.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/e-sim-t4011541
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/e-sim-t4011541
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LoL! Just what I thought. That thread you said that you started with full instructions on how to do it was started just yesterday after we asked for it. Furthermore, the link you said didn't show any flashing instructions, and worse, I couldn't find the "many people" you claimed have done it on that Reddit post. In fact, "many people" have claimed what I said that the AT&T versions/U.S. Fold versions does not support eSim functionality.
Bring the ego a little down low man, this forum is meant to help everyone and not disagree with people or claim that their posts are wrong specially if you cannot provide factual counterclaims.
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LoL! Just what I thought. That thread you said that you started with full instructions on how to do it was started just yesterday after we asked for it. Furthermore, the link you said didn't show any flashing instructions, and worse, I couldn't find the "many people" you claimed have done it on that Reddit post. In fact, "many people" have claimed what I said that the AT&T versions/U.S. Fold versions does not support eSim functionality.
Bring the ego a little down low man, this forum is meant to help everyone and not disagree with people or claim that their posts are wrong specially if you cannot provide factual counterclaims.
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I didn't say the many people were in that thread. The instructions I was referring to were the actually activating the esim once you have the options available. And I said off jump out the box att doesn't (although 2 ppl did say it was active out the box for them) but if you flash it should open it up. And I didn't time frame when I made the post. I did make it before I seen this thread. But in either way the time it was made is irrelevant. All I was saying was that I had made one.
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I didn't say the many people were in that thread. The instructions I was referring to were the actually activating the esim once you have the options available. And I said off jump out the box att doesn't (although 2 ppl did say it was active out the box for them) but if you flash it should open it up. And I didn't time frame when I made the post. I did make it before I seen this thread. But in either way the time it was made is irrelevant. All I was saying was that I had made one.
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Do you know if there is any change in the eSIM information for the F900U units in the US? Some conflicting information. Not sure, if flashing unlocked firmware enables it.
hello, anyone flashed the international firmware & got the e-SIM option rolling?
Hi, apologies for starting a new thread on this. I've asked the questions but can't get a definitive answer so hoping this will help me and other prospective buyers.
I have 2 options. Buy from wondamobile and get the HK version (TGY csc) or buy from T-dimension and get the Taiwan version (BRI csc)
Both are dual sim 128gb. However I want to be able to use both an sd card and a 5g sim. I'm seeing reports that even after the latest firmware update, you can only get 5g if you put the sim in sim slot 2. Is that true because I wouldn't get it if I can't add an sd card as 128gb is nowhere enough space and I don't like saving my pics to the cloud and my WhatsApp media folder just grows and grows as I like to keep old stuff.
So really:
1) can I use both sim slot and sd card and still get 5g here in the UK (EE). I've checked and the 5g band n78 is what ee use so it will pick up the 5g signal
2) does it matter which version I get, hk or taiwan?
3) even though wondamobile say volte and WiFi calling won't work, I think with the latest update they do work. Is that right?
4) is t-dimension OK to buy from?
Thanks!
So I bought from t-dimensions via eBay (G9860). They are based in HK so u assumed I would get the HK version, however I got the BRI version. As people have said in other threads, there's no option to select 5g on this model as there is no 5g in Taiwan yet.
I changed the CSC from BRI to TGY using Sankey using a guide on this forum - was relatively simple process and didn't wipe my phone - I can now select 5g for both sim 1 and sim 2 - whether I can actually get 5g I don't know. While passing through a 5g area, I didn't catch a 5g reception, only 4g plus (I'm on a Vodafone 5g tariff) so I'm not entirely sure. My Vodafone SIM was in sim 2 tray.
Also both Google pay and Samsung pay work. For Samsung pay, when signing up you have some Chinese writing, but after that it's all English and you can add UK cards to your account. You will see a Chinese banner with HK ads thou.
WiFi calling works for me, volte doesn't appear to despite it being selected.
Not really answered your questions, but hopefully my experience is helpful
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So I bought from t-dimensions via eBay (G9860). They are based in HK so u assumed I would get the HK version, however I got the BRI version. As people have said in other threads, there's no option to select 5g on this model as there is no 5g in Taiwan yet.
I changed the CSC from BRI to TGY using Sankey using a guide on this forum - was relatively simple process and didn't wipe my phone - I can now select 5g for both sim 1 and sim 2 - whether I can actually get 5g I don't know. While passing through a 5g area, I didn't catch a 5g reception, only 4g plus (I'm on a Vodafone 5g tariff) so I'm not entirely sure. My Vodafone SIM was in sim 2 tray.
Also both Google pay and Samsung pay work. For Samsung pay, when signing up you have some Chinese writing, but after that it's all English and you can add UK cards to your account. You will see a Chinese banner with HK ads thou.
WiFi calling works for me, volte doesn't appear to despite it being selected.
Not really answered your questions, but hopefully my experience is helpful
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That helps a lot! How was your experience with t-dimension in terms of delivery. I heard they also ask for ID which I'm hesitant to send to China lol.
Interesting about the 5g too. I'll need another person to share their experience in relation to it working. I know I read one guy on here say it only works in sim 2, but they never mentioned if the option was also there for sim slot 1 and that they selected it but didn't pick up anything. 5g can be dodgy so who knows.
Samsung pay and Google pay I don't use anyway so fine with that not working. I think the same guy mentioned volte worked on ee... Again I dunno which sim slot or if it matters, or if you need a base hk model like his. Is there any reason why you have yours in sim 2 by default?
So they didn't ask me for any ID - the only issue I had was that I ordered the cosmic black version and they messaged via eBay that they don't have it in stock and would I like either grey or white instead. I asked how long for the black and was advised they don't know so if I want black they would rather refund than hold the order... I decided to go for white - actually glad as it looks quite nice and not had a white phone before. It took a week to arrive - they used DPD. No tracking available until in the UK which got me abit worried, but as soon as it showed up in Manchester, DPD delivered it the next day. Btw I didn't have any customs or tax charges either.
From what I read on trustpilot it's sounded like they only asked for ID if your delivery address was different to your PayPal verified address. Again, I ordered via ebay and PayPal so maybe that's why I didn't get asked for ID.
My primary number is in sim 1 and sim 2 had my simo which I use for data. No other particular reason for that order, that's just how I had it in my last phone (OnePlus 5t).
Only other thing to add is that if 5g is selected for sim 2 and then try and select it in sim 1 I get the message ' if you change sim 1 to 5g, sim 1 will be used for mobile data' and then sim 2 changes to 4g - so you can only have 5g selected for either sim 1 or sim 2, not both at the same time.
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Hi, apologies for starting a new thread on this. I've asked the questions but can't get a definitive answer so hoping this will help me and other prospective buyers.
I have 2 options. Buy from wondamobile and get the HK version (TGY csc) or buy from T-dimension and get the Taiwan version (BRI csc)
Both are dual sim 128gb. However I want to be able to use both an sd card and a 5g sim. I'm seeing reports that even after the latest firmware update, you can only get 5g if you put the sim in sim slot 2. Is that true because I wouldn't get it if I can't add an sd card as 128gb is nowhere enough space and I don't like saving my pics to the cloud and my WhatsApp media folder just grows and grows as I like to keep old stuff.
So really:
1) can I use both sim slot and sd card and still get 5g here in the UK (EE). I've checked and the 5g band n78 is what ee use so it will pick up the 5g signal
2) does it matter which version I get, hk or taiwan?
3) even though wondamobile say volte and WiFi calling won't work, I think with the latest update they do work. Is that right?
4) is t-dimension OK to buy from?
Thanks!
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Any reason those two shops are your only options?
Those are 2 I've seen mentioned by people. There's a user on ebay also selling for much cheaper than either but I'm not sure how safe it is buying from ebay
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So they didn't ask me for any ID - the only issue I had was that I ordered the cosmic black version and they messaged via eBay that they don't have it in stock and would I like either grey or white instead. I asked how long for the black and was advised they don't know so if I want black they would rather refund than hold the order... I decided to go for white - actually glad as it looks quite nice and not had a white phone before. It took a week to arrive - they used DPD. No tracking available until in the UK which got me abit worried, but as soon as it showed up in Manchester, DPD delivered it the next day. Btw I didn't have any customs or tax charges either.
From what I read on trustpilot it's sounded like they only asked for ID if your delivery address was different to your PayPal verified address. Again, I ordered via ebay and PayPal so maybe that's why I didn't get asked for ID.
My primary number is in sim 1 and sim 2 had my simo which I use for data. No other particular reason for that order, that's just how I had it in my last phone (OnePlus 5t).
Only other thing to add is that if 5g is selected for sim 2 and then try and select it in sim 1 I get the message ' if you change sim 1 to 5g, sim 1 will be used for mobile data' and then sim 2 changes to 4g - so you can only have 5g selected for either sim 1 or sim 2, not both at the same time.
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Appreciate the detailed reply! Oddly enough I can't even find t-dimension on UK ebay. I have found a random seller called bestbuy263 or something selling for £630
Re the sim 1 sim 2 stuff, I would only have 1 sim as I need sim 2 for the micro sd
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Those are 2 I've seen mentioned by people. There's a user on ebay also selling for much cheaper than either but I'm not sure how safe it is buying from ebay
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Why not buy from a reputable store like The Carphone Warehouse?
Then you get a warranty, and know it will work on 5G
NO way would I buy from some foreign website or ebay for something that expensive, ebay you will lose your money if it breaks, and quite possibly with those online sites too, the wondamobile one already says they are unsealed because they had to activate them before shipping, I wouldn't be accepting a £1k device that had already been used / possibly refurbished, possibly IMEI stolen / blocked
Spend the little extra and buy from the UK, and not ebay/amazon, buy it new from a good rep store
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Why not buy from a reputable store like The Carphone Warehouse?
Then you get a warranty, and know it will work on 5G
NO way would I buy from some foreign website or ebay for something that expensive, ebay you will lose your money if it breaks, and quite possibly with those online sites too, the wondamobile one already says they are unsealed because they had to activate them before shipping, I wouldn't be accepting a £1k device that had already been used / possibly refurbished, possibly IMEI stolen / blocked
Spend the little extra and buy from the UK, and not ebay/amazon, buy it new from a good rep store
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Because carphone warehouse is a UK company and only sells the UK version I.e exynos variant. And I don't want the exynos because they've borked it
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Appreciate the detailed reply! Oddly enough I can't even find t-dimension on UK ebay. I have found a random seller called bestbuy263 or something selling for £630
Re the sim 1 sim 2 stuff, I would only have 1 sim as I need sim 2 for the micro sd
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So the eBay trader ID they used is 'skytrade19' but had all the blurb of t-dimensions. Also I got emailed a t-dimensions invoice afterwards with 'skytrade19' listed as sales agent. The item id was 153876284501 - I can see it in my transaction history, but looks like the listing has ended.
T-dimensions does have a store on eBay.com.au - item id 392790145906 will bring up the listing for the g9860 in white. Converting the price from AUD to GBP works about about £660. I'd message them and ask if they are willing to list on eBay UK if your keen on buying from them on eBay.
I haven't bought like this before but wanted the Snapdragon model like you. I liked the idea of ebay and PayPal protection together so took the gamble and bought it. I used PayPal credit as well so should have section 75 protection for my purchase (which I wouldn't have if I used PayPal with a credit card) - see mse forum for details on the section 75 stuff.
Anyway it worked out for me overall, that's all I can say.
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Because carphone warehouse is a UK company and only sells the UK version I.e exynos variant. And I don't want the exynos because they've borked it
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No they haven't, mine is the Exynos version and it is fine, this last update fixed the only issue I had with it and that was a delay taking selfie photos with the front facing cam, now it's instant
I've been talking to a guy who exchanged his Exynos S20U for the Snapdragon version and he says the only improvement is it doesn't get as hot during game-play, but videos and selfie photos are worse
Don't listen to the SD owners hating on the Exynos, and likewise vice versa, and if I was going to import a SD model from anywhere it would be the US, not Asia
The last update that was released for BRI with July patch has also activated 5G so there is no need to change csc to TGY if it was originally BRI.
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The last update that was released for BRI with July patch has also activated 5G so there is no need to change csc to TGY if it was originally BRI.
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Will it work in sim slot 1 though...
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Will it work in sim slot 1 though...
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Just need someone to check
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Just need someone to check
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Oh I thought you had a Taiwan model g9880 ultra as opposed to plus
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Oh I thought you had a Taiwan model g9880 ultra as opposed to plus
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Both.
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Oh I thought you had a Taiwan model g9880 ultra as opposed to plus
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Sent the G9880 back as didn't like the size and got G9860 in white.
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Sent the G9880 back as didn't like the size and got G9860 in white.
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Oh so can you not check yourself if 5g works on sim 1 slot is what I mean? Or am I missing something?
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Oh so can you not check yourself is what I mean? Or am I missing something?
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Would involve driving 30 min.
Ahhh that makes sense lol!
The specs page says Pro 9 has dual Sim but all the press reviews say that the US Version will have only single sim. Does anyone know? If 9 Pro unlocked NA version is 1 sim I'm pretty bummed and pissed off, especially since my order tech sheet says dual sim.
I was just looking at the spec page on their website, and it says "Single nano-SIM slot". Fire up my VPN and go to the UK page, dual sim. Also, black version not available on US store.
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I was just looking at the spec page on their website, and it says "Single nano-SIM slot". Fire up my VPN and go to the UK page, dual sim. Also, black version not available on US store.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will you post if it works?
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That's a brilliant idea. Will you post if it works?
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I'm currently on the fence, mostly cause my current phone works and performs fine. But if I do, I'll post here.
I can report, I just got my US variant (AA) and the dual sim tray slot on the backside like normal had a plastic bar preventing the use of dual SIM...I wonder if it's also disabled in software as well if one were to get a dual sim card tray...
I just tried my dual SIM tray from my OnePlus 8 Pro and it will only recognize a SIM in the front slot. I assume the functionality is disabled in the rom.
BTW, the 8 Pro SIM tray doesn't quite go in all the way, it has a thicker red gasket for sealing than the 9 Pro does. It still works, just not flush with the body of the phone.
bjevers said:
I just tried my dual SIM tray from my OnePlus 8 Pro and it will only recognize a SIM in the front slot. I assume the functionality is disabled in the rom.
BTW, the 8 Pro SIM tray doesn't quite go in all the way, it has a thicker red gasket for sealing than the 9 Pro does. It still works, just not flush with the body of the phone.
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I tried this as well, same result. It is hard to remove the 8 Pro SIM tray from the 9 Pro if you push it in.
Is the international ROM available to flash? I want to see if flashing that will make it recognize the second SIM with the 8 Pro's SIM tray.
I am very interested in this as well. I pre-ordered this phone because it said it was Dual-SIM for the USA. The following day, they edited it back to single-SIM.
If this can be worked around via getting a dual-SIM tray and flashing the global ROM, maybe I won't have to return it after all.
I can't believe we even have to have this discussion with a $1000 phone from a brand that has always had dual sim functionality. Argggggg...... It's going to make my head explode!
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I can't believe we even have to have this discussion with a $1000 phone from a brand that has always had dual sim functionality. Argggggg...... It's going to make my head explode!
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Right? The whole reason I splashed out for a carrier-free "premium" phone was to not be held down by any idiotic restrictions- but lo and behold OnePlus bent over backwards for T-Mobile. The worst part is that it's literally the same hardware, we just got a single-slot SIM tray and software to lock us out of the second slot.
It boils my blood that you can see the second set of SIM contacts in there and can't use them without jumping through hoops.
Mine's sitting in the damn box still, because I'm not using it until I know I can utilize both SIMs I have on it.
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Right? The whole reason I splashed out for a carrier-free "premium" phone was to not be held down by any idiotic restrictions- but lo and behold OnePlus bent over backwards for T-Mobile Verizon. The worst part is that it's literally the same hardware, we just got a single-slot SIM tray and software to lock us out of the second slot.
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I suspect it's Verizon's fault to forcing it as Single SIM on the software side. Verizon gimped previous Android models in a similar way previously. Pixel 3 eSIM was disabled on Verizon-sold models, and they forced OnePlus to make separate variants of the OnePlus 8 for both Verizon and Visible.
They knew OnePlus would want it certified for 5G mmWave, and that was probably Verizon's 'terms' for getting it cleared.
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I suspect it's Verizon's fault to forcing it as Single SIM on the software side. Verizon gimped previous Android models in a similar way previously. Pixel 3 eSIM was disabled on Verizon-sold models, and they forced OnePlus to make separate variants of the OnePlus 8 for both Verizon and Visible.
They knew OnePlus would want it certified for 5G mmWave, and that was probably Verizon's 'terms' for getting it cleared.
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This is actually a very good point that I hadn't considered. I hate how anti-choice the US wireless market is.
carbondog said:
I am very interested in this as well. I pre-ordered this phone because it said it was Dual-SIM for the USA. The following day, they edited it back to single-SIM.
If this can be worked around via getting a dual-SIM tray and flashing the global ROM, maybe I won't have to return it after all.
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the second sim does not even fit in the the sim slot, it kinda looks like a microSD can but I don't have one to try.
Yeah I was kinda upset about this too, b/c I used my OP7Pro for personal and work phone with 2 sims.
Bradl79 said:
the second sim does not even fit in the the sim slot, it kinda looks like a microSD can but I don't have one to try.
Yeah I was kinda upset about this too, b/c I used my OP7Pro for personal and work phone with 2 sims.
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The tray has been deliberately rendered useless on the second side. I tried it with the tray from the 8 Pro which fits two SIMs properly, but the software won't recognize the second SIM.
carbondog said:
Right? The whole reason I splashed out for a carrier-free "premium" phone was to not be held down by any idiotic restrictions- but lo and behold OnePlus bent over backwards for T-Mobile. The worst part is that it's literally the same hardware, we just got a single-slot SIM tray and software to lock us out of the second slot.
It boils my blood that you can see the second set of SIM contacts in there and can't use them without jumping through hoops.
Mine's sitting in the damn box still, because I'm not using it until I know I can utilize both SIMs I have on it.
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So frustrating. US telcos need more consumer-friendly regulation so they can't engage in anti-competitive behavior like this.
I put mine back in the box. Offering it to my wife to use, and if she doesn't, this is going back for a refund. Ordered the exact same phone from Amazon Italy, that should have dual SIM. ETA Apr 1-2.
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So frustrating. US telcos need more consumer-friendly regulation so they can't engage in anti-competitive behavior like this.
I put mine back in the box. Offering it to my wife to use, and if she doesn't, this is going back for a refund. Ordered the exact same phone from Amazon Italy, that should have dual SIM. ETA Apr 1-2.
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That's not a bad idea, I think I'll do the same since I know my wife doesn't need dual-SIM. She probably won't want it though, haha. Let us know how that works out, if it's smooth sailing then I might just do that as well. I wish I knew this before ordering from OP directly, I'd have just gone to Amazon first.
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That's not a bad idea, I think I'll do the same since I know my wife doesn't need dual-SIM. She probably won't want it though, haha. Let us know how that works out, if it's smooth sailing then I might just do that as well. I wish I knew this before ordering from OP directly, I'd have just gone to Amazon first.
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Just a heads up bro.
If you live in North America like me ordering the OnePlus 9 series from Amazon Italy makes no sense as their variant is UK version which misses many LTE & 5G bands that we need in USA & Canada! I almost put the order through before noticed that is a UK variant.
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Just a heads up bro.
If you live in North America like me ordering the OnePlus 9 series from Amazon Italy makes no sense as their variant is UK version which misses many LTE & 5G bands that we need in USA & Canada! I almost put the order through before noticed that is a UK variant.
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The bands are almost always different. I think they do it on purpose so people in North America are stunted if they do a gray market purchase.
Why does the North American models have 5G band 78 for the EU but they don't have 71 or n260, etc.. They do it on purpose to screw us over.
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Just a heads up bro.
If you live in North America like me ordering the OnePlus 9 series from Amazon Italy makes no sense as their variant is UK version which misses many LTE & 5G bands that we need in USA & Canada! I almost put the order through before noticed that is a UK variant.
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Damn, man- this got me thinking, so I threw together a quick comparison graphic of the bands, which are missing in their respective models. Top is from the US OP page, bottom is from Spain's.
I was planning on using mine with Verizon, looks like that might not be a good idea.
Looks like the NA version should work in EU with minimal problem, but the EU version is missing many NA bands. 100% due to carrier pressure, disgusting.
If anyone can manage to successfully enable the second SIM slot of a NA variant, that looks like the way to go.
I search around and found that iphone US version are also single sim and they are able to make it to dual sim only if they open the phone and replace the actualy sim inserted piece on the motherboard. I watched the tear apart video of oneplus 9 pro which the sim card piece on the motherboard is also detachable without remove the whole motherboard. I think the would work. Simply use a dual sim tray would not work.
We can finally order dual-SIM trays via eBay as of today. What are the odds of being able to enable that second slot?
It might need some time. I read from other post that oneplus 8 pro took a year before a low that feature. now oneplus 9 pro only have one sim tray so it might talk even a longer time for them to release that feature. I am more depending on the people who know how to customize the rom and add feature . So just stay tune at different forums.
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
carbondog said:
We can finally order dual-SIM trays via eBay as of today. What are the odds of being able to enable that second slot?
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That's great news. I returned by OP9P NA variant, but don't have a global variant yet. Shouldn't it just work with the NA variant if we flash a global ROM on the same device? It looks like it has pins on both sides.
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That's great news. I returned by OP9P NA variant, but don't have a global variant yet. Shouldn't it just work with the NA variant if we flash a global ROM on the same device? It looks like it has pins on both sides.
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Not that simple I think. I already flash to EU tom but it does not second sim in the settings. I think it might need wire flash of all components including baseband
amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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it doesn't for USA model.
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Not that simple I think. I already flash to EU tom but it does not second sim in the settings. I think it might need wire flash of all components including baseband
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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I saw one guy on Reddit complaining of the same situation we're in- ordered the phone when it said dual-SIM and trying to return it afterward.
He claims OP customer service said dual-SIM would be enabled via update in the future. While I hope that's true, it's the first and only time I saw that said anywhere. Could've just been said to try and avoid return. Even if it does happen, it'd probably be a ways off.
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I saw one guy on Reddit complaining of the same situation we're in- ordered the phone when it said dual-SIM and trying to return it afterward.
He claims OP customer service said dual-SIM would be enabled via update in the future. While I hope that's true, it's the first and only time I saw that said anywhere. Could've just been said to try and avoid return. Even if it does happen, it'd probably be a ways off.
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I chatted with OnePlus customer service two different times. Both agents tried to talk me out of wanting Dual SIM, but were very clear that it is single slot only for the US. One even cited spouted some bull**** about doing that to optimize 5G performance on US networks.
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Oh no. Does OnePlus publish those components, or are we out of luck until someone figures out a way to get them? The EU variant I have on order doesn't support one AT&T LTE band, so would much rather use an NA variant with dual SIM enabled.
If the EU variant shows up at my door before someone figures out how to make dual SIM work on the NA variant, then I will just use it even with the missing LTE band.
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I guess we have to wait to see if anyone can figure out how. At least, just upgrade to a newer version of EU tom does not work. Not sure if you for flash everything and reset from adb is the same
i have a bnib stellar black chinese version dual sim 8/256 oneplus 9 pro for sale. I am in SF bay area.
Will it work if i have a Dual Sim Oneplus 9 from Malaysia, install NA rom to open more BANDS ? The malaysia OnePlus 9 has the same 5G bands as in UK, but lack of some US 5G bands like n71. All CN variant do not have B13 band, therefore, not supporting Verizon LTE nicely. All ebay sellers who claimed dual sim with 12GB RAM and 256GB storage are mostly CN variant. I'm better off with EU/UK or MY. Hong Kong spec is the same as USA with dual sim. If anyone wants a dual sim and want mostly all US bands supported, Hong Kong Oneplus seems to be the right fit. Only if we can get it from HK
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amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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Funny, I don't have the option.
amandeepparmar said:
OP9Pro normally comes with a dual SIM. Just flip over your sim tray and insert the second sim. Voila!
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wait what?! both SIM fits in the same compartment ?
wouldn't that be too tight?
mine only has a slot for 1 SIM
The dual sim versions have 1 sim on each side of the tray.
Mine came with dual sim out of the box and is working perfectly.
I really like how I don't have carry around 2 phones anymore.
flaxjef said:
Mine came with dual sim out of the box and is working perfectly.
I really like how I don't have carry around 2 phones anymore.
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Do you have the US version?
I was very disappointed that the US version didn't come with a dual sim. I ordered mine at launch, when their website said that it had it.. Anyway, I finally figured out an acceptable replacement option for mine. I did have 1 sim for my personal number and a second sim for my work number (worked great on my OP 6T for a couple of years now). After playing around with things, I finally ended up porting my work number over to Google Voice (1 x $20 fee) and installed the Google Voice app on my phone. Now I essentially have 2 #'s on one phone, just like having a second SIM, but no cost to my carrier. I can receive calls and txt's for the # I ported to GV. Wasn't quite the solution I was hoping for, but now I no longer pay for that line.
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Do you have the US version?
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I don't think is a US variant. As far as US Variant is concern, is single SIM. Anyone that is using Dual sim could be CN or EU/UK Variant. If it is indeed a US variant, then I'm interested to know where the source to get it then . Those variants have fewer 5G sub-bands compared to the US except HK. I just hope that Oneplus has the hardware embedded and is just a matter of software activation. Samsung Note20 new firmware patch also opens up their eSIM support.
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I was very disappointed that the US version didn't come with a dual sim. I ordered mine at launch, when their website said that it had it.. Anyway, I finally figured out an acceptable replacement option for mine. I did have 1 sim for my personal number and a second sim for my work number (worked great on my OP 6T for a couple of years now). After playing around with things, I finally ended up porting my work number over to Google Voice (1 x $20 fee) and installed the Google Voice app on my phone. Now I essentially have 2 #'s on one phone, just like having a second SIM, but no cost to my carrier. I can receive calls and txt's for the # I ported to GV. Wasn't quite the solution I was hoping for, but now I no longer pay for that line.
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You do know they make an app called second line right? So you don't need to pay for 2 plans
Just need to confirm that Esim is enabled in the USA at launch. The fold 3 fiasco with Esim has me doubting, so need to confirm prior to ordering
I think it's safe to say yes as the S22 Ultra worked out of the box.
It BETTER be FFS!
Samsung has a mixed bag on this and the last fold did not work dual sim
They announced esim is available
Went to Best buy today to play with one. Flip 4 had Sim manager in the connections settings. Fold 4 did not. Guess will try a different best buy lol
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Went to Best buy today to play with one. Flip 4 had Sim manager in the connections settings. Fold 4 did not. Guess will try a different best buy lol
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I think this may be carrier specific.
My Flip3 that I got from Verzion in June did NOT have sim manager. I flashed an unlocked ROM and got it.
If it doesn't have it out of the box (unlocked), that is going to make some heads roll, I will tell you that.
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I think it's safe to say yes as the S22 Ultra worked out of the box.
It BETTER be FFS!
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Fold 3 didnt.
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Fold 3 didnt.
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Yes and neither did the S21 Ultra and Flip 3.
At this point in the game I would be very surprised if any Samsung flagship didn't have it out of the box.
Well, pre ordered today. Lets hope...lol
I went on BestBuy's site, and had a chat with a 'geek' named Olivia. They sell the TMO locked version ( I bought the unlocked, but plan to have TMO SIM in it, so my bet it will boot into a TMO environment like the locked ones). As per very SPECIFIC questions I was told that the Fold 4 supports eSIM. I asked in three ways , and 2 out of the three questions were , in short. a 'YES' , the fold 4 US version under TMO will support eSIM to cover non TMO USA territories. The third question, if she can tell me if the menu under setting->connections have a SIM manager menu, was ignored.
Did I learn something new? NO. Do I know eSIM is supported? NOT SURE. I guess we will know around August 24th to 26th when the pre-orders from Samsung come in... Or maybe someone who got his AMAZON order maybe kind enough and share if the menu indeed exists..
My fear, before entering a TMO SIM, it will be there, and as soon as a TMO SIM will be entered, the menu will be gone... I have no doubt Samsung has the hardware. I will check the setting BEFORE I place the TMO SIM and will see...
Best Buy's chat support are either AI bots or 3rd world employees being paid $1/day. I wouldn't put any faith in them whatsoever. They're about as reliable as Samsung chat support.
Also beware in order to use embedded sim the device cannot be locked to a different carrier. For example if you have TMO and buy a device from them on EIP, it will be locked to them. It should work with two lines but not with Verizon or ATT. The only exception is if you pay in full and wait 45 days for them to approve an unlock request. Of course if paying cash it makes sense to buy unlocked in the first place. ;-)
Yeah, I am fully aware they know nothing of the devices they sell.. and I am well aware this is for fully purchased TMO devices. I did speak to a real person, and I did not get the answers I trust to be the truth.. I really hope SOMEONE who got his unlocked device from Amazon already will share his experience. With all the things I bought in my life at Best Buy, service and warranty by their 'Geek' squad was never something I paid for..
Man, I currently use eSim on my S21 that I am trading in. You guys got me nervous that i won't be able to setup my Fold 4 when i get it haha. I might need to order a TMO sim just in case lol.
Confirmed by TMO at a US store that the TMO version has Esim enabled. Saw it myself with a TMO sim inserted
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Confirmed by TMO at a US store that the TMO version has Esim enabled. Saw it myself with a TMO sim inserted
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Confirmed for T-Mobile i just enabled my Esim.
Yup. I did mine yesterday when I got my Fold
When I got mine yesterday, I had to insert the sim card from the Fold3, then go online to chat with a rep to get it activated. Tmobile device.
Wow, in the UK, all I did was 'Transfer e-Sim" on EE's site/app and plonk away it went after scanning the QR. My watch 4 to watch 5 e-sim swap however.....
Just want to clarify....
Esim is live for T-Mobile only..
Atnt straight talk and Verizon don't connect, they can't. I've been told by Samsung directly to wait for an update like the fold 3 for esim support to go live for them...
Came from a OnePlus 8 pro running atnt and Verizon and was slapped in the face when I found out this 0hones 1sim+1esim I was under the assumption the unlocked one was going to be dual sim..
So I'm trying to deal with Verizon through sim card for the time being. Verizon also doesn't have a slightest clue what my device is either, it read the 8 pro, now it just shows nothing in my account for a phone.