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Okay guys.
So I just got my 4S back from these guys, and wow, I am honestly amazed.
I saw them on my local news a few days ago, and figured what the hell. Apparently they put your phone through a process that binds their product on a molecular level, and makes it "waterproof" I didn't think it'd work as good as in the videos but it really does.
Essentially what happens is, you pay and ship your phone to them. Within a day of receiving it, they treat your phone and send it back. (can do the express version for 10$ more)
I sent my phone in on a monday, received it back on that thursday. I then decided to put it to the test. filled up my sink (about a foot and a half deep), closed my eyes, and submerged my 4s. To my astonishment, I opened my eyes and the screen was still on! I was even able to type a message to my girlfriend telling her I was texting her from underwater xD
I then answered a call in the shower the next morning and all worked fine! Its been a week since Ive gotten my phone back and have done the sink trick countless times to impress my friends, and it still works like new hehe. just thought id share, seeing as a good waterproof case for the 4s is about 20$ more.
http://www.liquipel.com
edit: I figured the accessories thread was the best place, let me know if you feel otherwise ;P
heres a good demo i found of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtsSPZCGmuY
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
killall said:
Yeh looks good but a pretty short list of approved devices. No SGSII for a start
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try emailing them? I thought i read somewhere on there site that they can usually make accommodations for devices not on the list..
And they JUST started taking orders at CES, so they should expand the supported devices soon if theyre doing this good. pretty great start imo xD
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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Ah. Well that might be a problem then xD
killall said:
Thanks but second problem, I dont think they are in the UK yet.
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It said it was a mail in program... international mail... phone back in like 3 weeks lol
edit:The following devices are approved to be Liquipelled:
Apple iPhone 4s
Apple iPhone 4
Apple iPhone 3g/s
HTC Evo 4G
HTC Evo Shift 4G
HTC MyTouch 4G
HTC Thunderbolt
Motorola Droid X/X2
Samsung Charge
Wow that is amazing!!
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My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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blaine07 said:
My understanding is they coat internals of phones & simply keeps the water from corroding intricates.
My initial question was how speaker would still operate as it "coating" not hampering its performance but its answered on websites FAQ.
My question now lies in...if they coat everything that's good BUT what happens when you switch batteries...if the contacts of the battery weren't coated I'd think it could/would short out. No?
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Good question. You might have to email them on that one. I don't have to worry about it since my battery isn't "removable" lol
While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
ekin said:
While I understand the application to any iOS devices because they are naturally closed.
But to other devices you get some variation of success.
The most important areas are the jack ports, speakers, mics, buttons, screws and edges of the opening-backside.
They probably coat the display too "just in case" but that should deteriorate the quality of the touchscreen.
And coating the innards is not necessary, but helps as "secondary insurance" but I'd be worried about the warranty getting void.
We need a device like the NOTE entirely Aluminium-Unibody with only the bottom lip opening up for removable battery, SIM, microSD (like the HTC Legend).
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It sounds like your completely guessing at what "it" does and how its applied. I on the other hand decided to investigate BEFORE acting as if i knew what it was we are discussing.
1. Its applied via vapor,in a vacuum chamber environment, so as to completely coat inside and out, all parts of said device. The coating is 1000 times thinner than a human hair and therefor does not change the way the phone feels or functions(screen response)
2. speakers are not effected because they too are waterproofed in the same nano tech molecular bonding process.
3. When you submerge your device once coated, water does completely run THROUGH your device. Short circuit cannot be obtained because the liquid cannot make contact to the positive and negative/grounding surfaces because of said thin/nano layer of protection. although it repels liquids, it still allows all existing electrical pathways to function without flaw, and will conduct electricity thus allowing for the capacitive functions to work also.
4. This technology was not designed to make your phone "UNDERWATER" proof, and they recommend not submerging any device in liquid. In the case that your phone falls from your hoodie pocket into the toilet, you can retrieve (and hopefully) rinse your device before electrical failure/short occurs. Its a backup plan for accidents, not a solution for mobile underwater photography or social networking.
These statements are not conjecture. this is what happens when you read and investigate what youve read.
If your gonna troll, at least take the time to know what your talking about. F'in trolls!
Not trolling, just thought this was the "old" method previously adopted (was it by Vertu?).
If you call anyone a troll for showing interest then I guess you would be alone in this world as a non-troll, just saiyan
Did you even read what you wrote??? Words like "probably", and other staments like "naturally closed" make you sound like an idiot, which im sure you are not... but if you are gonna post in a category, wouldnt it help to know the subject your posting about. The information is there and one should not have to ?guess?
I on the other hand became very curious about said tech, and therefor did the research needed to contribute to this discussion.
There are no what if this happens in this case because the are selling a tested product, and have limited device compatibility - for now.
I was hoping that when i saw a new post on this thread that it was someone with valuable information, trying to fill gapps of knowledge, but it was just "what if's" and "probably's"... come on. If you want to pm me about what ive learned about this product, ill be happy to share anything else i have with anyone. I am here to learn, not waste valuable time reading conjecture based on nothing.
Hey smart guy why would you come here looking for information when you already know everything?
Even if I was still interested, I wouldn't ask someone like you (just letting you know so you dont have to constantly check you pm)
Later buddy
Seriously guys. This is to get other peoples opinion about the product. No need to argue
The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
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I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
Well that sucks.... I cant post pictures of it.... Just google joelespinoza photobucket they should be the top pictures in my only album.
I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Ironically, my Honda battery is suffering during this colder season and could use such a boost! LOL
Honestly, I can't see how anyone could actually use the S3 without a case. I have never held such a slippery and uncomfortable device...begging to fly out of my hand. Too thin. But there are so many case options out there that compliment it. Love it. :good:
On the topic of "entertainment", here is a video for a new Griffen Survivor case that gives your BED DROP tests a run for the money...
all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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Dangerous? is it dangerous to carry a 9 volt battery? Fully charged this is around 4 volts, why would it be dangerous?
When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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Very unlikely, I wear carpenter jeans and and always use the leg pocket for my phone and nothing else goes in there, so there is almost no chance of it shorting out against anything. This phone has had this battery since about 3 weeks after Sprint released the S3s and it has never been an issue, and I recently redid the connections and switched from gorilla glue to thermal adhesive.
Not only that but if it did start heating up, there is nothing holding the battery in there but friction. Pulling the battery out takes me all of 1 second.
But worse case scenario if you wanted to do it and you were worried about it, just pot the side with the connections.
Hahaha this is great, love the idea!
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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I work in IT and keep my pockets very organized, if I was tossing this phone into a purse or pocket with a bunch of loose change or other metal objects I would have it better insulated. I will probably do so anyway at some point but right now it is not an issue.
As a side point I seriously doubt anything but shorting out could possibly cause any kind of "thermal runaway" with this setup. The battery has 5 times the mass and better airflow then stock and the phone can only draw the same power. I do still get a warm screen with this setup (how the CPU/GPU dissipates heat) but the battery never gets much more then body temp, even under the most brutal use for hours at a time.
That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Even if it was awkward to hold, the battery life would so be worth it.. Getting the battery life of my old flip phone would be an incredible experience on a smartphone. I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
Be super careful doing this. I know that lithium polymer batteries are really bad news if they are punctured or damaged... I believe this is also the case with the Lithium Ion batteries.. specifically if you inadvertently short them causing heat and internal breakdown.. Have seem my share of laptops that were burned when someone used the wrong laptop power supply (21V instead of 12V for example)
Not saying to not do this sort of mod... just saying to be VERY careful and don't risk your safety or risk burning down your house for the sake of extra battery life.. there are too many USB charging batteries out there to help with battery life extension if you are away from a USB port for too long.
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Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL!
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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I added a couple pics in the first post.
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I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
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I have done my fair share of messing with electronics, but im not an electrical engineer or anything... If you are comfortable soldering, its not that big of a deal. The hardest part is attaching the wires to the stock battery, because you have to lift up the small circut board the contact points are attached to, then resolder it back down after you attach wires underneth it. But to be fair you dont need the boards of the other 2 batteries so you can pratice on them. Then you line up all the batteries where you want them and glue them together. After that its all wire routing and ataching negatives to negatives and positives to positives.
It would probably be a good idea to have the main battery completely drained before starting. But having the other 4 with some charge would be fine if you are somewhat careful.
Be sure to pick a very thin wire with a decent casing, some kind of ribbon wire would probably work best I think, however, I just used ethernet wire I had laying around, but some of them had great insulation and some of them the insulation sucked.
If you want to play around with it without jumping in with both feet you can take apart just about any old cell phone battery and see how they are put together, they are all pretty similar. My old verizon LG octane 950mAh battery actually runs my S3 and charges normally in it, it just has to be held in with a piece of tape.
Its like anything really, if you are patient and careful you will get a nice finished product, if you are not......
You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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I do agree I should probably slap some insulation on the side... However I think all of you people who are worried about something terrible happening are wildly overestimating the results.... I have shorted out this battery, its not a huge deal. Would it be bad if I purposefully directly shorted it out for a long period of time? Well yea... is it a big deal if it brushes up against something and I immediately pull it away? Has not been a problem so far,,,
This is not a single cell battery, its 5 cells connected by thin copper wire... I have actually used copper wire this thin as a fuse in a pinch, if it gets hot it melts then you are back to a single cell, assuming that the arcing didnt simply melt away the metal shorting out, which usually happens nearly instantly.
I know Lithium ion batteries can be dangerous, I also know how much abuse it usually takes to make them that way. I was around and saw some of these "tests" first hand with Luke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dree...gcnR3aIyzfEYEaOlYsyQe_ANtSuo7U2FsvDnzcBTJK8yE
an s3 commuter with batteries?
who does that?:laugh:
Okay, so, I found out the hard way that even with a hard-shell-back case on the S4, it is very much NOT pocket friendly. Last week (5 days ago), I put my S4 (which i've babied from day 1 and looks brand freakin' new), pull it out of my pocket 5 minutes later to a dead screen. After some fiddling by taking everything out and plugging it back in, I found the screen kind of came back but failed again shortly after that. The S4 felt light to begin with, I didn't think there's a shred of metal anywhere in the device to provide a supportive internal structure to keep things from bending in a way they shouldn't (one of the reasons I bought the case at T-Mo's 80% markup)... After calling in to claim on my warranty (this thing is 6 months old), I brought it into a store and spoke with a rep who said it looked perfect otherwise, brand new, however he confirmed my suspicions that they're only plastic framed. This design is great for many reasons, weight being one, but horrible for things such as pockets, imagine if I had sat down in a car with it in my pocket instead of just walking down the stairs at work and using a urinal... the thing would have been obliterated, even in it's hard-back case. Wanted to get out there and find out if anyone else has had some issues with the S4 and pocket incidents.
To note, I have a random replacement device coming back because they didn't have an S4 on back-back-order and decided rather than to make me wait, they just shipped something android to me, probably not an S4, and if it is, it's black, which I will promptly return because I live in Arizona and black is the worst idea for a color of anything out here unless you want it to be hotter than hell when you touch it. Let's hope they got me something good, not HTC, and not black, I suspect I'm gonna lose this roulette and be stuck with this awful HTC HD7 (WinPhone7, fml) for a while, while I go back and forth with T-Mo to get my replacement android device.
No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
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No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
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Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
@elesbb your to much
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elesbb said:
Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
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Pics or it didn't happen.
I second the pics or it didn't happen.
Bonus points if you're wearing guyliner.
I read the other thread on this subject in the I9505/I9500 forums... No one asked this question, what is your BMI (weight (lbs) divided by height (inches) squared multiplied by 703)? Just curious. Mine is 26.4 (considered overweight, can't argue with belly pudge), I wear skinny to straight pants, rocking a Neo Hybrid case - no issues or concerns (aside from the occasional stretch-out-leg-while-sitting-to-pull-phone-out issue). I walk up and down roughly 20 flights of stairs a day, use the urinal 3-4xs, and generally go about my day with my primary device damage concern coming from placing my keys in same pocket and droppage.
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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My thoughts exactly lol
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
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Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Lol, tell me about it. :good:
Cynagen said:
Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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i was referring to skinny jeans lol im not that in shape myself
Actually this is kind of what happened to mine, only mine bent the frame along with the busted screen. Mind you this was a hot day and this particular car's A/C (1997 Saturn SL2) is slow to work on hot days (although it feels fine when it's warm but not humid). no more than 15 minutes in my pocket, *break*. of course I had my wallet next to mine.
I have mine in the Leather flip book case and its stable and durable enough to last in my pocket. i have had a slight issue with pocket dialing though, but probably because im not shutting off the screen before closing the case and putting it away.
1buy said:
Can you tell me why? I think should be no problem.http://www.1buy.com/6-inch-zopo-zp9...creen-1gb-ram-16gb-rom-13mp-camera-white.html
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that is disgusting.
TheAtheistOtaku said:
that is disgusting.
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Looks like a Galaxy Mega without the physical home button...
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I've kept mine in my pocket for 3 months and have had no problem with it, other than it falls out of my pocket occasionally when I'm in the car.
Mine always wants to turn on its side in my pocket and sit horizontal instead of vertical... That's annoying.
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Hello Everyone.
I just noticed mine one week old Note 5 Pro is curved. Does your phones bends too?
I hope they don't.
mine is to bend within 10 days of buying
Mentu12 said:
Hello Everyone.
I just noticed mine one week old Note 5 Pro is curved. Does your phones bends too?
I hope they don't.
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mine is too bend in 10 days after buying, what to do now.
its known problem on all xiaomi's aluminium back phones , all my previous xiaomi's metal back phones are bended!
try not to put it in a pocket or any pressure .
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lawong said:
its known problem on all xiaomi's aluminium back phones , all my previous xiaomi's metal back phones are bended!
try not to put it in a pocket or any pressure .
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Thanks for replying, now what to do will they replace my phone, did they replaced your because its been only 10 days i purchased it.
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Thanks for replying, now what to do will they replace my phone, did they replaced your because its been only 10 days i purchased it.
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sorry sir i dnt know about that because i nvr sent for warrnty on all my prvious phone .
in here at my state/country , warranty claim will take month to be settle and i didnt have the patient to wait for that ,as long the phone functioning good so i just keep using it .
Use a case
Well with specific amount of pressure every aluminium phone is going to bend. That's how aluminium works guys. It's not Xiaomi specific. iPhones bend too even with pressure applied using bare hands. If you don't want your device to be bent then use it carefully. Apply a case. Don't sit on it or probably stop thinking that you bought an explosion proof phone. Simple logic. If it's aluminium its destined to be bent if you apply pressure. So keep your phone safe.
the replacement shells are like 17 shipped, its not end of the world even if it did bend, but yeah a case a no skinny jeans goes a long way.
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Well with specific amount of pressure every aluminium phone is going to bend. That's how aluminium works guys. It's not Xiaomi specific. iPhones bend too even with pressure applied using bare hands. If you don't want your device to be bent then use it carefully. Apply a case. Don't sit on it or probably stop thinking that you bought an explosion proof phone. Simple logic. If it's aluminium its destined to be bent if you apply pressure. So keep your phone safe.
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Mine appears to be bent after ~2 hours of being in my front pocket, with a case. It was either bent out of the box, or Xiaomi is using the cheapest aluminum available. I've never bent or damaged a phone in any way. My iPhone 6s plus is perfect, without the slightest bend, and I've used it caseless for three years. So, yeah, it appears to be a Xiaomi specific problem. If a phone is so fragile you can't even put it in your front pocket, then it's hot garbage.
I read the topic as "Does it blends", I thought it will be a new episode of "will it blend?"
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Mine appears to be bent after ~2 hours of being in my front pocket, with a case. It was either bent out of the box, or Xiaomi is using the cheapest aluminum available. I've never bent or damaged a phone in any way. My iPhone 6s plus is perfect, without the slightest bend, and I've used it caseless for three years. So, yeah, it appears to be a Xiaomi specific problem. If a phone is so fragile you can't even put it in your front pocket, then it's hot garbage.
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well i can surely said that xiaomi built quality are red hot garbage , i have been using lots of xiaomi variant and most of them suffer from bending issue. its really annoying i cant even put it in my pocket to make sure its not bended.
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Mine appears to be bent after ~2 hours of being in my front pocket, with a case. It was either bent out of the box, or Xiaomi is using the cheapest aluminum available. I've never bent or damaged a phone in any way. My iPhone 6s plus is perfect, without the slightest bend, and I've used it caseless for three years. So, yeah, it appears to be a Xiaomi specific problem. If a phone is so fragile you can't even put it in your front pocket, then it's hot garbage.
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Yeah, phone is so fragile it bends in front pocket.. dont make me laugh. Phone is just fine, this video proves it, as it performs just about same as other devices in this bend test. If its bent, its your fault, not xiaomi.
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Yeah, phone is so fragile it bends in front pocket.. dont make me laugh. Phone is just fine, this video proves it, as it performs just about same as other devices in this bend test. If its bent, its your fault, not xiaomi.
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I've too seen that video, before buying the device, as I knew many other Xiaomis were extremely fragile, like the A1 or the RN4. Asking other users around, it appears that some RN5 are slightly bent out of the box. Even the display unit at a local store is. This is rubbish, I'm returning it, and never buying a Xiaomi phone again. You get what you pay for, I guess. Also, this community is toxic and full of fanboys that can't admit their device is not perfect. If it's bent it's the shoddy build quality's fault, not mine. All my devices are in pristine condition after years of use.
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I've too seen that video, before buying the device, as I knew many other Xiaomis were extremely fragile, like the A1 or the RN4. Asking other users around, it appears that some RN5 are slightly bent out of the box. Even the display unit at a local store is. This is rubbish, I'm returning it, and never buying a Xiaomi phone again. You get what you pay for, I guess. Also, this community is toxic and full of fanboys that can't admit their device is not perfect. If it's bent it's the shoddy build quality's fault, not mine. All my devices are in pristine condition after years of use.
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Nothing IS perfect!
It's my first Xiaomi, so I'm far away to be a fan boy and I'm not involved in the community. But for using the smartphone for almost two months, I think it's pretty well made and solid. As most of phones it's not a tank but I'm not very gentle with it, I use the protection wich came in the package and for the moment I have nothing to complain. It felt down twice and no damage to declare.
So in my opinion it's a solid phone.
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Mine appears to be bent after ~2 hours of being in my front pocket, with a case. It was either bent out of the box, or Xiaomi is using the cheapest aluminum available. I've never bent or damaged a phone in any way. My iPhone 6s plus is perfect, without the slightest bend, and I've used it caseless for three years. So, yeah, it appears to be a Xiaomi specific problem. If a phone is so fragile you can't even put it in your front pocket, then it's hot garbage.
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Are U really compare an iPhone to a Xiaomi?
Stop it Please. My RN5P is flawless. I usually inline skateing, fell lot with phone in my hand, still perfect for this price.
Homlok said:
Are U really compare an iPhone to a Xiaomi?
Stop it Please. My RN5P is flawless. I usually inline skateing, fell lot with phone in my hand, still perfect for this price.
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This phone is anything but flawless. Apparently many Xiaomis are slightly bent out of the box, and that's definitely a symptom of bad quality control. Luckily I returned the RN5p and go a discounted Honor Play for only 15€ more. Night and day difference in build quality.
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This phone is anything but flawless. Apparently many Xiaomis are slightly bent out of the box, and that's definitely a symptom of bad quality control. Luckily I returned the RN5p and go a discounted Honor Play for only 15€ more. Night and day difference in build quality.
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Apparently, i would like you to give me atleast 1 source for this "bent out of box" claim. Because this is first time im hearing it. And Honor Play starts at 240 euros, where as redmi note 5 starts at 130 euros, so you are comparing apples to oranges here... Budget vs middle tier.
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Apparently, i would like you to give me atleast 1 source for this "bent out of box" claim. Because this is first time im hearing it. And Honor Play starts at 240 euros, where as redmi note 5 starts at 130 euros, so you are comparing apples to oranges here... Budget vs middle tier.
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It cannot have bent inside my pocket, with so little time and pressure. The model on display at a local mall is also slightly bent, and users on a reddit tread on r/xiaomi confirmed that other models (A1, A2 lite RN4) appear to have bent either out of the box or without any pressure. In 10 years of using smartphones I've never had to worry about them just bending in my pocket. So, it either was like that out of the box, or they're using soda can-grade aluminium.
Anyway you're comparing the price of an imported from china (so, no warranty at all, and china ROM) in a 3gb of ram edition, to the price of a phone sold locally with a decent warranty of 2 years. The RN5p with 4GB of ram is 199€ here, I've paid my Honor Play 216€ during a sale.
Just take it , most of xiaomi phone suffer from bending issue , they have worst build quality in their product ,i have been a fans of xiaomi product and have been using their product for a long2 time , this bending problem started when they release redmi note 3 or to simplify it when their started to using aluminium material on their phone body parts.
Looks like the LG V40 will launch late this year. Some info on it can be found here: https://wccftech.com/lg-v40-specifications-feature-launch-date-leak-specifications-features-price/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v40
Guess am sticking with the v20. I cant live without removable battery. But Im always looking to import.
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Guess am sticking with the v20. I can't live without removable battery. But Im always looking to import.
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You want removable battery because your battery dies during the day or what? And you want to swap it out?
People keep saying the can't live without removable battery but won't ever say why. My wife and I have not have removable battery on our Androids since 2014, so I don't quite understand.
First, with newer phones with high IP ratings -- like V30 IP68 -- you can't have removable battery without a lot of engineering headache. Also designing back exit port (with clear exit/entry/walls) for user battery removal makes the phone bigger than it needs to be.
Second, the V30 battery life is EXCELLENT. Some days I don't even charge my phone until I get home from work, as the V30 system has great built-in battery saving. I do keep Quick Charge chargers in car and at work, just in case. (Why? Because of my previous phone.)
Coming from a 2014 Moto XT1225 with a 3900 mAh battery, I was very worried about battery life on a phone with smaller battery (3300 mAh) and larger OLED display (6" vs 5.2"). I've been pleasantly surprised. Ironically, the older Moto XT1225 with bigger battery would not hold a charge all day long, thus my charger stash in car and at work... And I'm still going to keep those. There's no harm in charging while I'm using Google Waze navigation or topping off at work while I'm typing on my laptop.
Third, no current or future premium phones are going to have removable battery. See point #1. So, unless you are going to keep buying increasingly older refurbished V20 phones, at some point you're going to need to move forward.
I love IP68 protection, myself and the V30 has headset jack and Qi wireless charging -- which are my "lines in the sand" for what I need on a phone.
I wouldn't mind the LG V40 battery being a little larger than LG V30 3300 mA... but I am quite pleased with the battery performance of the LG V30.
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You want removable battery because your battery dies during the day or what? And you want to swap it out?
People keep saying the can't live without removable battery but won't ever say why. My wife and I have not have removable battery on our Androids since 2014, so I don't quite understand.
First, with newer phones with high IP ratings -- like V30 IP68 -- you can't have removable battery without a lot of engineering headache. Also designing back exit port (with clear exit/entry/walls) for user battery removal makes the phone bigger than it needs to be.
Second, the V30 battery life is EXCELLENT. Some days I don't even charge my phone until I get home from work, as the V30 system has great built-in battery saving. I do keep Quick Charge chargers in car and at work, just in case. (Why? Because of my previous phone.)
Coming from a 2014 Moto XT1225 with a 3900 mAh battery, I was very worried about battery life on a phone with smaller battery (3300 mAh) and larger OLED display (6" vs 5.2"). I've been pleasantly surprised. Ironically, the older Moto XT1225 with bigger battery would not hold a charge all day long, thus my charger stash in car and at work... And I'm still going to keep those. There's no harm in charging while I'm using Google Waze navigation or topping off at work while I'm typing on my laptop.
Third, no current or future premium phones are going to have removable battery. See point #1. So, unless you are going to keep buying increasingly older refurbished V20 phones, at some point you're going to need to move forward.
I love IP68 protection, myself and the V30 has headset jack and Qi wireless charging -- which are my "lines in the sand" for what I need on a phone.
I wouldn't mind the LG V40 battery being a little larger than LG V30 3300 mA... but I am quite pleased with the battery performance of the LG V30.
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I want removable battery so I can replace it myself when it gives signs of wear. Without taking the whole damn phone apart!
I never take baths with my phone, all phones have enough water resistance so you can walk with them in the rain.
I really don't see the point in having water proofing on modern phones. Not when it comes at the cost of repairability or drop resistance.
FACT: old phones with removable battery were much more resistant on drops even if their parts (cover, battery) flew in all directions on big drops. I dropped old Nokia smartphones from 2nd story with no damage. How does water proofing help your flagship these days? They crack from laughable heights of under a meter.
I'm pretty sure drops on hard surfaces are much more common causes for damage than the lack of water proofing ever was in the past.
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I want removable battery so I can replace it myself when it gives signs of wear.
I never take baths with my phone, all phones have enough water resistance so you can walk with them in the rain.
I really don't see the point in having water proofing on modern phones.
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It's not taking baths, it's the drop off the edge of swimming pool. Drop in the toilet. (Ugh). Kid knocking over pitcher of tea at the dinner table, directly onto your phone.
V30 has mil spec ratings for dropping. See the forum description on the PC website version. Phone will keep functioning. I do keep case on for glass back as it's slippery.
LG V30 in United States has two year warranty.
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It's not taking baths, it's the drop off the edge of swimming pool. Drop in the toilet. (Ugh). Kid knocking over pitcher of tea at the dinner table, directly onto your phone.
V30 has mil spec ratings for dropping. See the forum description on the PC website version. Phone will keep functioning. I do keep case on for glass back as it's slippery.
LG V30 in United States has two year warranty.
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Maybe you shouldn't take the phone near the swimming pool. Or buy a phone specifically made for extreme environments if you're really not able to be careful about using electronics near water or keep it away from kids.
I don't care about the specs for dropping and whatever others have tested and written about the phone.
I learned on my own how those specs mean absolutely nothing. I dropped the V30 from 60 cm on wooden floor. The screen cracked, water resistance is gone. These new designs are terribly flawed. Superior materials (plastics) have been replaced by metal and glass. Neither provides any functional advantage. They just make the phone more heavy and slippery. Add to that the craze about screen to body ratio aiming for 100% that does nothing but make the phones even more fragile.
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Maybe you shouldn't take the phone near the swimming pool. Or buy a phone specifically made for extreme environments if you're really not able to be careful about using electronics near water or keep it away from kids.
I don't care about the specs for dropping and whatever others have tested and written about the phone.
I learned on my own how those specs mean absolutely nothing. I dropped the V30 from 60 cm on wooden floor. The screen cracked, water resistance is gone. These new designs are terribly flawed. Superior materials (plastics) have been replaced by metal and glass. Neither provides any functional advantage. They just make the phone more heavy and slippery. Add to that the craze about screen to body ratio aiming for 100% that does nothing but make the phones even more fragile.
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Well, you're never getting removable battery on a new premium phone, no matter how much you complain.
How often do you replace your batteries anyway?
Love the peace of mind of IP68, whether I ever need it or not. I've not had removable battery phone since 2014 and never missed that feature.
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@DLS123
i think that everything comes down to money... if you had the money you would change the friggin phones every month, every week... but it's like the fox and the grapes (if you understand what i mean)
as for battery change, how often do you change them? once a year? once two years? you might not even keep a phone that much and speaking about the phone beinng dismantled like that it means that you don't even do the operation of changing the battery
ip68 protection is very good. many people kill their phones because of liquid damage. there are many situations you cannot really control, like a sudden rain while you are outside, or dropping the phone into toilet, or having it on the table and someone spill some glass with water on it, etc... ip68 protection is more than welocome, it helps you sleep better at night. i once killed a nexus 5's display because i had it on the floor and at night i wanted to drink some water but because i was sleepy i dropped the bottle on the floor, didn't realize the phone was there until morning when was too late already. you putting the blame on us killing phones because of liquid damage makes you something that i cannot write here... many of us want less stress on our heads about phones. PLEASE do not judge us about something you cannot understand
i have had many phones with alot of physical impact damage, broken screens, broken cases, even bent cases. afterall it is a phone which is not made from vibranium, it's glass and plastic but if you refer at nokia 3310 with "old phones with removable battery" sentence then we might have a problem. everything with a full body display BREAKS, i can and i did, not on purpose anyway. nobody wants their phone to be a second baby and keep it all day long in silk... it's a phone, it's an OBJECT. everything in this world breaks with the right amount of force.
this is why i always use full body cases and tempered glass screen protectors, to minimize the repair costs. i am one of the few ppl out there who do not care about how it looks as long as i do not change display once a month.
damn, i abuse them like hell. my 5x even had three full charges a day, fully emptied, overheated till 80 degrees and it still works like a charm, with new battery and thermal pad to cool the processor little bit more. on the other side v30 gives me twice the battery life n5x had but sometimes i eat two v30's betteries in a day, removed thermal throttle completely so the gpu do not go dows when i play games.
changing the bettery is not that hard, you just need some good double adhesive tape and a small cross screwdriver and, of course, a new bettery which costs 10 euros.
don't be such an ignorant *something* and put your hands to work, evolve yourself or, if you do not want to, keep your outdated v20 and, please, do not criticize our awesome v30
I think water resistance is a great feature. Like insurance, I never intend to use it, but I still like having it "just in case".
I also think user replaceable battery is desirable, because the battery is the one thing that wears the most in a modern smartphone, and the one thing that makes it impractical to use a phone for several years. V30 has good battery life: I charge mine only every 3rd night (occasionally every 2nd night) and generally get 8 hrs SOT or more. But I use Battery Saver most of the time, and I do it mainly to reduce battery wear, because I need to keep this phone useful for at least 3 years. Had the battery been user replaceable, I wouldn't have that concern.
Alas, the two features are not compatible for the reasons described, so each has to prioritize and decide for him/herself.
I prefer anodized aluminium to glass, both for its looks, its feel, and its resistance to fingerprints. Hence V30 wasn't really my preferred phone at first. But it was my wife's, and with T-Mobile's BOGO AND LG's $400 rebate, it was a no-brainer. And I have since come to like it a lot, particularly after I trimmed the bloat, found the right case for it, and after I realized how great that Sabre DAC is. Paired with decent headphones, it really is a poor man's Hi-Fi system -- and a pretty darn good one too.
And I also really appreciate LG's 2-year warranty!
I insisted on 2 things with every phone I ever bought: removable battery and expandable storage. I never once replaced a battery (and every phone was a flagship on a full 2-year contract). I did, however, always rely on an extra microSD card for media and to make it easier and safer to flash new ROMs. But now that I have 128gb built-in, even that is hardly an issue. I never pay any attention to glass vs. aluminum vs. plastic body, because my phones all live in matte black TPU cases so they all look the same from my point of view.
I was as closed-minded as the next guy for nearly a decade, but darned if technology didn't just evolve beyond my needs.
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I was as closed-minded as the next guy for nearly a decade, but darned if technology didn't just evolve beyond my needs.
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LOL. Nice post!
Edit: I haven't yet filled up my 128GB either, even with most of my CDs as FLAC and a ton of hi-res music files to boot. And if I ever do, V30 still has an SD card slot. So it really has worked out to be the right phone for me, even though I didn't realize it at first.
I tried replacing phone batteries in the past. I learned that (1) low price aftermarket batteries have inferior performance and are a gamble with respect to safety, (2) OEM batteries are either way overpriced if fresh (only available while the phone is still in production), or "new" aka unused but stale*, or used and stale*.
Basically, it is a waste of time and money at best to replace a phone battery. (It is also a safety risk with most aftermarket Li-Ion batteries.) So, a phone is a 2 year device. After that, the battery is at end of life, the phone is slipping into obsolescence, time to get a new phone, forget about replacing batteries.
* Li-Ion batteries in this class have only a 2-3 year life whether they are used or not, as soon as they are manufactured the clock is ticking. Freshness matters. A 2-3 year old battery has only 60% or less original fresh capacity.
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I tried replacing phone batteries in the past. I learned that (1) low price aftermarket batteries have inferior performance and are a gamble with respect to safety, (2) OEM batteries are either way overpriced if fresh (only available while the phone is still in production), or "new" aka unused but stale*, or used and stale*.
Basically, it is a waste of time and money at best to replace a phone battery. (It is also a safety risk with most aftermarket Li-Ion batteries.) So, a phone is a 2 year device. After that, the battery is at end of life, the phone is slipping into obsolescence, time to get a new phone, forget about replacing batteries.
* Li-Ion batteries in this class have only a 2-3 year life whether they are used or not, as soon as they are manufactured the clock is ticking. Freshness matters. A 2-3 year old battery has only 60% or less original fresh capacity.
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Now that's a really good point you're making, that quality batteries are difficult to find after a couple years, or unreasonably expensive. I hadn't thought about that. Of course not that it matters with V30 :silly:
But I will say that good battery care really does make a difference with Li-Ion batteries, including minimizing the number of charging cycles AND minimizing the amount of time spent at the top and bottom of the battery's range (where its chemistry suffers the most). Case in point is the old Samsung laptop on which I am writing this: Its battery wear is still less than 20% after over six years. It is plugged in most of the time, but with Samsung's Battery Life Extender enabled, which stops charging at 80%. During those six year I've used it on battery about twice a week for meetings or presentations or working outside, but I try to avoid running it down completely. I charge it fully to 100% when I need the extra battery runtime, but mostly I have kept it within the 20-80% zone where Li-Ion is most comfortable.
With my V30 it is not practical to stop charging below 100% as I charge overnight. And maybe LG's charging logic makes it unnecessary. But I do avoid running it down completely, and I only charge it every 2-3 nights. So far my battery health is still at 102% after 8 months, according to AccuBattery -- although I am not sure how accurate that really is.
And we have soooooo hijacked this thread
So the V40 aspect of having a non-replaceable battery (like the V30 and most other current phones) was the point that went off on a tangent about the issues of phone battery replacement.
Here's the scenario, where you are careful to maximize your original phone battery by optimal charge state between 20-80%, moderate temperatures, moderate power draws, etc.:
You managed to keep it viable for an unusually long service life, maybe 3 years. Good! (But even optimal charging and service conditions cannot change the chronological aging problem of Li-ion batteries, so 3 years has dropped capacity to only 60% and falling.)
Now, you have a phone that is obsolete, with sub-par battery runtime. And, the other systems of the phone are at end of life too, because it is all designed for a 2 year service life, so failure probability is increasing rapidly.
Available batteries are stale and/or inferior quality (and most are safety hazards).
Are you going to try to keep the phone going with replacement battery? It is past the point of diminishing returns, and most aftermarket batteries are an increased safety hazard too (charging should be done only in a fully ventilated area with nothing nearby that can burn).
After learning all this by experience, I gave up on replacing phone batteries, and the user-replaceable battery.
Face it, a phone is just a disposable 2 year device. Replaceable battery is irrelevant. IMHO.
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Now that's a really good point you're making, that quality batteries are difficult to find after a couple years, or unreasonably expensive. I hadn't thought about that. Of course not that it matters with V30 :silly:
But I will say that good battery care really does make a difference with Li-Ion batteries, including minimizing the number of charging cycles AND minimizing the amount of time spent at the top and bottom of the battery's range (where its chemistry suffers the most). Case in point is the old Samsung laptop on which I am writing this: Its battery wear is still less than 20% after over six years. It is plugged in most of the time, but with Samsung's Battery Life Extender enabled, which stops charging at 80%. During those six year I've used it on battery about twice a week for meetings or presentations or working outside, but I try to avoid running it down completely. I charge it fully to 100% when I need the extra battery runtime, but mostly I have kept it within the 20-80% zone where Li-Ion is most comfortable.
With my V30 it is not practical to stop charging below 100% as I charge overnight. And maybe LG's charging logic makes it unnecessary. But I do avoid running it down completely, and I only charge it every 2-3 nights. So far my battery health is still at 102% after 8 months, according to AccuBattery -- although I am not sure how accurate that really is.
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It's not really hijacking. Somebody said they wouldn't buy a better phone (we're hoping V40 will be a better phone) than the V30 (because it is posted in this thread, so therefore the implied comparison between the two) because it won't have replaceable battery. HUH?
Well, V30 also doesn't have replaceable battery and neither did my previous Motorola phone. So, that person wasn't just criticizing the still unknown V40 but even our current V30 phone.
They won't even buy V30, which is the best phone of 2017.
In a way, we're explaining even our V30, otherwise we would all be stuck using slider keyboards Eclair Androids. For good or bad, software keyboards are defacto. (No, don't even mention BlackBerry. They are not a trend.)
And sealed batteries are defacto.
* IP68 beats any reason for replaceable battery.
* Batteries are goingng to last 2-3 years. By then, you're going to get another phone.
* Also, battery charge lasts longer than in the past, where people needed to swap out batteries mid day.
* There is also QuickCharge technology that will give you six more hours in 15 minutes... I keep Quick Charge in car and at work.
Now you can always argue for bigger batteries, but sealed batteries are here for premium phones.
Same with IR blasters. No one is begging to control their TV with their phone. Sure, it's a "cool" trick to show off one time, but it is a not a real life concern for millions of people.
Now headset jack and Qi wireless charging, THOSE are important.
DLS123 said:
Maybe you shouldn't take the phone near the swimming pool.
Or buy a phone specifically made for extreme environments if you're really not able to be careful about using electronics near water
or keep it away from kids.
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I could also admonish you to never be so clumsy... Forget about hyperactive kids, you dropped and broke your own phone. Ironically, ig you had at least dropped it in water, it would be OK.
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I dropped the V30 from 60 cm (about 24 inches) on wooden floor. The screen cracked, water resistance is gone.
These new designs are terribly flawed. Superior materials (plastics) have been replaced by metal and glass. Neither provides any functional advantage. They just make the phone more heavy and slippery. Add to that the craze about screen to body ratio aiming for 100% that does nothing but make the phones even more fragile.
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Cracked with drop of 2 feet to wooden floor, then you didn't have a case on your phone or the right case? Yeah, it's ironic we have to cover our glass phones with plastic.
You need a case for the back glass and you need raised lip on the case to protect the front display from hitting the floor.
But I like larger displays, I love IP68, I will not buy a phone without Qi wireless charging (so you can't have metal).
I do agree with you that a tightly sealed modern plastic which would still give you IP68 would definitely be better than glass (same plastic stuff race car driver helmets are made of) -- but you still wouldn't have removable battery. Those days are over.
And even though we cover our glass phones with plastic cases, somehow the buying public WANTS shiny glass at least to buy the phone. Then immediately cover it with plastic -- never to be seen again!
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I think water resistance is a great feature. Like insurance, I never intend to use it, but I still like having it "just in case"....
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FWIW, I don't think my V30 would've survived my trip to Spain for San Fermin without IP68. I can say with certainty, that it is not only water resistant, but also WINE RESISTANT!
San Fermin WINE INCOMING!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlJH_ZPBxdT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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FWIW, I don't think my V30 would've survived my trip to Spain for San Fermin without IP68. I can say with certainty, that it is not only water resistant, but also WINE RESISTANT!
San Fermin WINE INCOMING!!
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LOL Yes, I can see that :laugh:
Drinks with sugar content (like wine and sodas) are some of the worst if they get inside electronics, because the sticky stuff remains and can keep shorting even after the liquid has dried out. So this is a perfect example of where IP68 proved to be "worth the insurance premium".
ChazzMatt said:
You need a case for the back glass and you need upper lip on the case to protect the front display from hitting the floor.
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I started out with a clear TPU case with upper lip (this one) because I was terrified I would drop my expensive new glass phone. And while it did indeed protect, I never got to like the phone all the time I used it: It ruined the V30s elegant design and, ironically, it actually made me drop the phone TWICE on our tile floor because the sticky silicone rubber surface somehow surprised the tactile expectations of my hands when handling the phone.
After a few months I got a hard cover slim skin case instead (this one) and it completely changed my experience with the phone: It looks great (people now ask what kind of phone I have) and feels great in my hands. And while I realize it won't protect as well in case of a drop, I haven't dropped it since, because the mat silky surface behaves as my hands expect.
We recently got the same case for my wife's V30 -- although Rose Gold! She continues to use a Spigen clear TPU case during the week because she often drops her phone at work. But when we go out, she puts on the slim skin case
Late reply,
I understand the need-ness for ip rating and what not, but I can to grips that you'll never find a "flagship" in this day and age with everything you need ie.; Remote control, replacement battery, fast charging, military grade protection (I degress, maybe a sales pitch). I'm pretty sure everyone on xda is a tinker.. wanting to see how everything works.
With that being said I don't knock no one for their choices. I fully support anyone and their ideas. I know we are stuck (v20 7.0 2yrs) with awesome hardware but a ****ty company (sometimes or department). I don't really upgrade that much because I researched alot before I make a decision.