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What is the Pixel C USB data transfer speed?

Hi,
I was hoping someone could answer this for me as I can't find an answer anywhere.
I was just wondering whether to buy the Google USB C cable that is stated to transfer at USB 2.0 speeds (480Mbps) or whether to buy a faster USB 3.0 (5Gbps) or 3.1 (10Gbps) cable (A to C).
I've found a few compliant USB C cables including a Belkin USB 3.1 A to C cable that transfers at 10Gbps and was hoping to take advantage of the USB 3.1 ports on my new Z170 based motherboard.
Thanks

Rambler76 said:
Hi,
I was hoping someone could answer this for me as I can't find an answer anywhere.
I was just wondering whether to buy the Google USB C cable that is stated to transfer at USB 2.0 speeds (480Mbps) or whether to buy a faster USB 3.0 (5Gbps) or 3.1 (10Gbps) cable (A to C).
I've found a few compliant USB C cables including a Belkin USB 3.1 A to C cable that transfers at 10Gbps and was hoping to take advantage of the USB 3.1 ports on my new Z170 based motherboard.
Thanks
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I do not believe the port in the Pixel C is USB 3.0. Therefore, it wouldn't be necessary to get a USB 3.1 cable. It should still work, but you wouldn't exceed USB 2.0 speeds, which is probably why Google's cable is only USB 2.0.

Thanks for the response.
Is anyone able to do a quick transfer with a USB 3.0/3.1 based Type C cable to see if it maxes out at USB 2.0 speeds.
It would be much appreciated.

charesa39 said:
I do not believe the port in the Pixel C is USB 3.0. Therefore, it wouldn't be necessary to get a USB 3.1 cable. It should still work, but you wouldn't exceed USB 2.0 speeds, which is probably why Google's cable is only USB 2.0.
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Most tech sites report the Pixel C has USB 3, but the fastest read speed I can get on a USB-C /3.0 flash drive is 27MB/s which leads me to believe even tech sites are confused and don't understand that USB-C does not automatically mean USB 3.

I think it was confirmed by Benson Leung, in the Reddit AMA, it's full host/client USB c spec so it's full speed port. Maybe another way to test would be to mount a USB 3 drive to pixel and storage benchmark it

I thought that the USB 3.1 host and client related only to the ability to charge the Pixel C as well as the ability to charge other devices from the Pixel C and to use the USB port for other devices such as an ethernet adapter.

beardymcgee said:
I think it was confirmed by Benson Leung, in the Reddit AMA, it's full host/client USB c spec so it's full speed port. Maybe another way to test would be to mount a USB 3 drive to pixel and storage benchmark it
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That's pretty much what I did. A USB 3 USB-C MicroSD flash drive. On my PC it reads at 80MB+, on the Pixel it is 25MB

I'm a bit confused now.
Recently I read a review by Benson Leung on a USB 2.0 A to C cable here http://www.amazon.com/review/R1AF6ZHBZRQFHV/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B018HUOMYE&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless on Amazon and at the end of the review states:
In conclusion, this is a Good cable for your Nexus 6P/5X to use with all of your older USB Type-A chargers, hubs, and PCs. It also works great with Chromebook Pixel 2015 and will work great on USB Type-C spec compliant devices to come! However, it is NOT a SuperSpeed USB 3.1 5gbps cable. Look elsewhere if you are specifically looking for a 5gbps cable for use with MacBook or Pixel C.
Is this implying that the Pixel C is capable of USB 3.0 speeds, but perhaps not at the moment?
Or is it just a typo as a Superspeed USB 3.1 cable should be capable of 10Gbps and not 5Gbps (USB 3.0).

That is interesting. I'd suspect he'd know what the C is. I however, have never gotten more than USB 2 speeds out of it.

Grims said:
That is interesting. I'd suspect he'd know what the C is. I however, have never gotten more than USB 2 speeds out of it.
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Just don't think it fully enabled yet same with HDMI out as well

Which USB cable should I get?

Hi there,
So my original OnePlus data/charging cable is damaged and I have to put it in a certain position to get it to charge my phone. I had a spare but my friend has left it at his parents house and I don't think I'm going to get it back. I've been using the short charge cable that came with my OnePlus power bank to charge my phone.
I tried some old micro USB cables that I had lying around from older devices. They work for charging but they don't seem to let me connect my phone to my PC.
I also do not like the style of USB head that OnePlus put on their official cables, the plastic tab with the contact points does not sit firmly in the USB ports on my computer.
I want to get a couple of replacement USB cables for charging and data transfer but I don't know which cables would work with my OnePlus One. I would like to avoid an official OnePlus Micro USB cable as the USB connector is too loose.
Can anyone suggest a cable for me to get? I would like it to be able to charge at full speed and also work with USB file transfers and have a normal USB head on the cable so it sits firmly in the port.
I just don't want to order a wire and find out it doesn't work with the phone. I seem to remember my phone has always been picky with USB cables and I do have some driver issues that may be caused by the wire type.
Thanks,
donk165

donk165 said:
Hi there,
So my original OnePlus data/charging cable is damaged and I have to put it in a certain position to get it to charge my phone. I had a spare but my friend has left it at his parents house and I don't think I'm going to get it back. I've been using the short charge cable that came with my OnePlus power bank to charge my phone.
I tried some old micro USB cables that I had lying around from older devices. They work for charging but they don't seem to let me connect my phone to my PC.
I also do not like the style of USB head that OnePlus put on their official cables, the plastic tab with the contact points does not sit firmly in the USB ports on my computer.
I want to get a couple of replacement USB cables for charging and data transfer but I don't know which cables would work with my OnePlus One. I would like to avoid an official OnePlus Micro USB cable as the USB connector is too loose.
Can anyone suggest a cable for me to get? I would like it to be able to charge at full speed and also work with USB file transfers and have a normal USB head on the cable so it sits firmly in the port.
I just don't want to order a wire and find out it doesn't work with the phone. I seem to remember my phone has always been picky with USB cables and I do have some driver issues that may be caused by the wire type.
Thanks,
donk165
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Using 1+'s original cable is always the best get.

donk165 said:
Hi there,
So my original OnePlus data/charging cable is damaged and I have to put it in a certain position to get it to charge my phone. I had a spare but my friend has left it at his parents house and I don't think I'm going to get it back. I've been using the short charge cable that came with my OnePlus power bank to charge my phone.
I tried some old micro USB cables that I had lying around from older devices. They work for charging but they don't seem to let me connect my phone to my PC.
I also do not like the style of USB head that OnePlus put on their official cables, the plastic tab with the contact points does not sit firmly in the USB ports on my computer.
I want to get a couple of replacement USB cables for charging and data transfer but I don't know which cables would work with my OnePlus One. I would like to avoid an official OnePlus Micro USB cable as the USB connector is too loose.
Can anyone suggest a cable for me to get? I would like it to be able to charge at full speed and also work with USB file transfers and have a normal USB head on the cable so it sits firmly in the port.
I just don't want to order a wire and find out it doesn't work with the phone. I seem to remember my phone has always been picky with USB cables and I do have some driver issues that may be caused by the wire type.
Thanks,
donk165
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Actually, yes. I've had my One for more than 2 years now and changed the cable as well. There are actually 2 cables I can recommend as of now - from Nillkin and from Aukey. Both are sturdy, solid, fast and just do their job as good as they should. Aukey, however, is much better in one aspect: it's longer. 2m vs 1.2m. Aaaaand it still charges with full 2.1A current, which, in my opinion, is pretty awesome. Both of them are also pretty cheap - you can buy them for ~ 5$ - just search for them on Aliexpress

I had good experiences with Sharkoon and LogiLink cables.

I've got the 5 pack from Anker and it's doing well. On a test it had good performance and was very cheap on Amazon.
Item model number: AK-B7103011
ASIN: B00Q88RI0S

You should get USB cable with Micro USB

Thanks for the replies, I guess my main concern was getting a USB cable that works for data transfer. I ended up ordering a triple pack of Aukey USB's. 2 x 1m and 1 x 2m cables. The description said that they work with 2.1a chargers and USB 2.0 data transfer which is what I need.
Thank you for the suggestions !

Can you please share the link of the purchase
donk165 said:
Thanks for the replies, I guess my main concern was getting a USB cable that works for data transfer. I ended up ordering a triple pack of Aukey USB's. 2 x 1m and 1 x 2m cables. The description said that they work with 2.1a chargers and USB 2.0 data transfer which is what I need.
Thank you for the suggestions !
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Can you please share the link of the purchase. I also need one to buy and can't find the best option. Thanks in advance.?

tilakdebnath said:
Can you please share the link of the purchase. I also need one to buy and can't find the best option. Thanks in advance.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-USB-...d=1488165703&sr=1-3&keywords=aukey+usb+3+pack
Here you go, that's the exact pack I bought.

Is this as good as the original cable for charging & data transfer

You can try BlitzWolf reversible micro usb cable. It's able to charge with full 2A current and most funny, it's really reversible, so it does not matter which side you connect to your phone (unlike normal micro usb connector).

tilakdebnath said:
Is this as good as the original cable for charging & data transfer
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Yeah, it charges quickly, and data transfer works great. I haven't benchmarked it or anything but its doing its job, and the 2m cable is great! It still charges quickly despite being longer. The micro USB head has a satisfyingly click when plugged in and the USB head is normal and works well.

donk165 said:
Yeah, it charges quickly, and data transfer works great. I haven't benchmarked it or anything but its doing its job, and the 2m cable is great! It still charges quickly despite being longer. The micro USB head has a satisfyingly click when plugged in and the USB head is normal and works well.
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Thanks a lot !!☺

Pixel2XL can't connect to PC via most of the cables

Hi,
Got my Pixel2XL, love it!
But 1 strange thing, I had the Nexus 6P before and a few cables some that I got in it's package and some that I bought (USB-A to USB-C) all work both for charging and for data transfer (more important for me adb and fastboot) except 1 cable, let's call it ORANGE (since it's color) that only worked for charging.
When I connect my Pixel2XL none of those cables work for data, only for charging! the PC doesn't recognize anything in device manager and the phone doesn't show any option and only charging. that is regardless of the cables or ports and even tried on another PC with same cables. same with USB debugging enabled and disabled.
BUT, when I connect ORANGE it works! now the strange part is that some of my cables are high quality and even pretty good companies like Choetech (if I wrote correctly) and the ORANGE, is some lame cable from Aliexpress.
So I wonder if maybe there are few standards that are supported/not supported on the Pixel2XL? or how do I buy now cables? same was when I tried an older USB-A to MicroUSB with an USB-C adapter.
I couldn't find any official data by Google.
Please assist, Thanks.

No Issues here
dimiboy said:
Hi,
Got my Pixel2XL, love it!
But 1 strange thing, I had the Nexus 6P before and a few cables some that I got in it's package and some that I bought (USB-A to USB-C) all work both for charging and for data transfer (more important for me adb and fastboot) except 1 cable, let's call it ORANGE (since it's color) that only worked for charging.
When I connect my Pixel2XL none of those cables work for data, only for charging! the PC doesn't recognize anything in device manager and the phone doesn't show any option and only charging. that is regardless of the cables or ports and even tried on another PC with same cables. same with USB debugging enabled and disabled.
BUT, when I connect ORANGE it works! now the strange part is that some of my cables are high quality and even pretty good companies like Choetech (if I wrote correctly) and the ORANGE, is some lame cable from Aliexpress.
So I wonder if maybe there are few standards that are supported/not supported on the Pixel2XL? or how do I buy now cables? same was when I tried an older USB-A to MicroUSB with an USB-C adapter.
I couldn't find any official data by Google.
Please assist, Thanks.
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Sorry to hear that Bro.
I am using all the same cables I used with my 1 XL and can connect to both my win7 and win 10 machines

Try USB 2.0 port and Spigen cable
Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZE36WH8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sXhaAb7Z5356G

Icyou said:
Try USB 2.0 port and Spigen cable
Edit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZE36WH8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sXhaAb7Z5356G
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Checked now in USB2 and USB3 ports with some of my cables, same

Have you rebooted the Pixel?
When I first got mine and I set it up and I finally wanted to copy over my ringtones, my laptop and PC wouldn't detect the Pixel. It would make a ding sound then go back to Charging. I then rebooted for the first time and then it worked.

Ok, seems that my "high quality" cables wasn't so good.
It seems that 1 of them wasn't choetech and the other that I though came with the Nexus 6P was something I got from the store since in those days they provided the n6p with a different charger (they couldn't deliver US plug chargers than)
after I found the box of the n6p I found the short USB-A to USB-C cable and it works both for data and for charging!
Thanks for all the help and everything, it was my mistake and a big learning curve of why cheap cables won't work.
I still wonder how does the phone know which one is good or not.

Best USB Adapters and Cables

Id really like to fine a nice usb-a to usb-c adapter as my MacBook only has usb-a ports and my pixel cable like everyone's is c to c.
Alternatively I'd like to also get a nice ubs-c to usb-a cable.
Lastly just for reference let's hear who has good usb-c to usb-c cables.
Not looking for cheap cables either, let's comprise a listing of only high quality products. Seems a waste to buy a near $1000 dollar phone only to plug it into a crap cable and accidentally fry it. I have no problem spending a little extra coin to ensure a quality product. I'm sure others can relate as well.
Sent from my p3xl

Cable USB Anker PowerLine + USB-C a USB 3.0 (0, 9m)
Amazing quality like always from Anker
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3NB6FB/ref=twister_B07B68KX45?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

kingoftf said:
Cable USB Anker PowerLine + USB-C a USB 3.0 (0, 9m)
Amazing quality like always from Anker
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3NB6FB/ref=twister_B07B68KX45?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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These are the only cables I will buy. Contacted Anker when I had an issue with one and they sent me a replacement no questions asked. Top notch product and customer service

fitz420 said:
These are the only cables I will buy. Contacted Anker when I had an issue with one and they sent me a replacement no questions asked. Top notch product and customer service
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I too only buy Anker cables. They are very high quality. I've had the same cable that was linked but in 6' for over a year now and it works great. Some of the best cables, chargers and accessories I've ever bought. I also have an Anker BT speaker that works very well.

I have a few of their latest version. No problems yet.
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerline-ii-usb-c-to-usb-a-2-0-cable/A8462011

Wanted to bring this topic back to life.. What about USB-C to USB-C 3.1? I can't find anything longer than 3 feet... at least by a reputable company like Anker.. Any input? My motherboard has USB-C 3.1 onboard and the 3' cable is just too short.. I can get one from Google.. $30

jbarcus81 said:
Wanted to bring this topic back to life.. What about USB-C to USB-C 3.1? I can't find anything longer than 3 feet... at least by a reputable company like Anker.. Any input? My motherboard has USB-C 3.1 onboard and the 3' cable is just too short.. I can get one from Google.. $30
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When in doubt, start with Monoprice and compare from there. That said, buying USB-C stuff is super confusing these days with USB 2.0, USB 3.0, USB 3.1 Gen1, USB 3.1 Gen2, and now this USB 3.2 stuff coming out (that rebrands USB 3.0 and 3.1 stuff to 3.2). All that said, see if maybe this is what you're looking for? The moment you start going to 3.1 instead of 2.0 or 3.0, you start getting some expensive and thick cables.
Speaking of Monoprice, I'm a big fan of this charger - 45W for $17 right now. I own 3.

Jaxidian said:
When in doubt, start with Monoprice and compare from there. That said, buying USB-C stuff is super confusing these days with USB 2.0, USB 3.0, USB 3.1 Gen1, USB 3.1 Gen2, and now this USB 3.2 stuff coming out (that rebrands USB 3.0 and 3.1 stuff to 3.2). All that said, see if maybe this is what you're looking for? The moment you start going to 3.1 instead of 2.0 or 3.0, you start getting some expensive and thick cables.
Speaking of Monoprice, I'm a big fan of this charger - 45W for $17 right now. I own 3.
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Looks like that will do the trick! I just need one long enough to use with my computer. I prefer using the USB C port on my desktop ... I know regular USB-C to USB works fine.. Just my preference. Thanks! I always forget about Monoprice and their wonderful cable selections!

Question Google USB Cable

I can use none google usb cable to charge pixel6pro but I cannot charge oneplus8pro by google usb cable.
Is there any secret on google usb cable ? Will it is clue to brick pixel6pro if using none google usb cable ?

You can use any quality cable. The only other brand other than an OEM cable that I trust is Anker, although I've gotten lucky with some (now discontinued) random name brands.

Kris Chen said:
I can use none google usb cable to charge pixel6pro but I cannot charge oneplus8pro by google usb cable.
Is there any secret on google usb cable ? Will it is clue to brick pixel6pro if using none google usb cable ?
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It is the OnePlus cable isn't a standard USB cable it is a propitiatory standard, that said any good quality cable should still charge the OnePlus phone but only at 15W (if memory serves).
Anker all the way for me as well, i cannot remember the last time i used the cable that came with a phone.

As mentioned by @MrBelter it's the OnePlus cable that's the issue.
I've had this cable for about 4 years (see link), and used it on the Pixel 2 XL, Pixel 4 XL, and Samsung Galaxy S21 with no issues...still using the same came on my P6P.
Link: USB C to USB C 60W Cable, JSAUX[2-Pack 6.6ft] USB Type C Charger Fast Charging Cord Compatible with Samsung S21/S20/S10/A52, MacBook Air/Pro 13'', iPad Mini 6/iPad Pro2020/Air 4, Pixel 6, Switch-Grey https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MDYXC1...abc_CJYMVDFH8YXV40DQ6RZ5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Kris Chen said:
I can use none google usb cable to charge pixel6pro but I cannot charge oneplus8pro by google usb cable.
Is there any secret on google usb cable ? Will it is clue to brick pixel6pro if using none google usb cable ?
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OnePlus either uses firmware within the USB connector, or a specific resistance value to determine if the cable is an OP cable and it's likely they do so to limit legal liability from users who unintentionally try to push 3A - 5A through a cable not designed to handle current that high.
Folks have unintentionally used shoddy USB cables to charge a smartphone that resulted in the death of the user.
When folks speak about a "quality" cable, it's referring to the wire gauge of the cable, as it's the gauge of the wire that dictates how much current can safely pass through the wire without causing it to overheat from the high resistance caused by pushing more current through the cable than the cable is designed to carry.
A quality manufacturer will list the gauge of the wires within a USB cable and if a listing doesn't have the wire gauge listed, my rule of thumb is it can handle no more than 10W (5V @ 2A). MonoPrice is a well known manufacturer of quality cables and they lifetime guarantee all their cables with a no-hassle lifetime warranty.