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After debranding my 3 UK Razer Phone, installing the factory image and updating to Oreo via an OTA update, I noticed that various animations and interactions such as scrolling anywhere or opening the app drawer are stuttering or skipping frames. I am very perceptive of frames and I can definitely say that after the Oreo update my phone has developed micro stutters. The phone doesn't hang or lag, it just feels like it skips frames. I have tried all performance profiles via Game Booster but the same issue persists. Has anyone else noticed a similar issue after updating to Oreo?
I dont have a probme but i do notice a bit if my frames dropping. I always run the phone on 120 fps but sonetimes recently i norice the divice falling to 60 fps and going back to 120. I did not glash anything and im doing so e testing to see if the problem is becauae of so ething i have installed ir not. But i dont notice any stutters ir frame skips.
I also have observed this issue and it is driving ne crazy. Pulling down the notification shade, scrolling through recent apps, scrolling in general, all have this micro stutter now. I had this issue before with my Axon 7 so I knew how to test it. Under developer settings, enable GPU Profiling on screen as bars. With the Axon 7, when scrolling, every time a frame dropped, the gpu profile would show a spike well above the green line. When I first got my Razer phone (on Nougat), everything was buttery smooth and upon using the same test, there were no gpu profile spikes above the green line when scrolling or making thebphone undergo any sort of animation. However, on Oreo, it feels as though the Razer phone is dropping frames in the same manner that my Axon 7 did before. I may just roll back to Nougat tbh.
Hello, I'm a long time lurker and a new member here. I bought this phone a week ago and I have a strange issue with it.
Honestly I have no idea where else to look for help, I've asked in several posts over on reddit and fb to no avail. I'll try to describe the issue to the best of my abilities.
Anyways, I've noticed that when I switch between apps there is a momentary flicker or increase in brightness of the screen. I searched for a while and found that the screen refresh rate drops to 90hz for a moment and goes back up again. I tried setting the display to 60 hz and the issue disappeared. I tried setting it to 90hz with SetEdit and the brightness increased a bit. As if the brightness setting for 90hz mode is a bit higher than 60 or 120 if that makes sense.
I have 2 videos below one in 120hz mode and the other in 60hz. The camera exaggerates the effect a bit but it's visible with the naked eye in low to moderate lighting conditions i.e indoor use.
https://imgur.com/a/idsj8UO
note that in 120hz mode the refresh rate drops to 90hz for a moment.
Is this normal or do I have a defective unit?
Thanks in advance
khaledegy99 said:
Hello, I'm a long time lurker and a new member here. I bought this phone a week ago and I have a strange issue with it.
Honestly I have no idea where else to look for help, I've asked in several posts over on reddit and fb to no avail. I'll try to describe the issue to the best of my abilities.
Anyways, I've noticed that when I switch between apps there is a momentary flicker or increase in brightness of the screen. I searched for a while and found that the screen refresh rate drops to 90hz for a moment and goes back up again. I tried setting the display to 60 hz and the issue disappeared. I tried setting it to 90hz with SetEdit and the brightness increased a bit. As if the brightness setting for 90hz mode is a bit higher than 60 or 120 if that makes sense.
I have 2 videos below one in 120hz mode and the other in 60hz. The camera exaggerates the effect a bit but it's visible with the naked eye in low to moderate lighting conditions i.e indoor use.
https://imgur.com/a/idsj8UO
note that in 120hz mode the refresh rate drops to 90hz for a moment.
Is this normal or do I have a defective unit?
Thanks in advance
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As for the Hz drop, this is normal when using this phone because it offers adaptive refresh rate (drops from 120Hz to 90Hz when you switch between apps). As for the flicker/brightness change, it does this to me too so I am guessing it's either a bug or just a result of the implementation of the adaptive refresh but can't be sure about that.
stavrosbin said:
As for the Hz drop, this is normal when using this phone because it offers adaptive refresh rate (drops from 120Hz to 90Hz when you switch between apps). As for the flicker/brightness change, it does this to me too so I am guessing it's either a bug or just a result of the implementation of the adaptive refresh but can't be sure about that.
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Is there anyway to force the display at constant 120hz?
khaledegy99 said:
Is there anyway to force the display at constant 120hz?
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Sorry for the long delay. I am pretty sure you can follow this tutorial for this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/munn6k
. However, I am not 100% it is permanent so you will probably have to do it and see if it changes after a few days.
stavrosbin said:
Sorry for the long delay. I am pretty sure you can follow this tutorial for this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/munn6k
. However, I am not 100% it is permanent so you will probably have to do it and see if it changes after a few days.
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It ain't permanent... Just switch to any aosp rom. I'm tired of ****king memeui.
I installed it for performance and convenience of many more features but dumb stuff like this is unbearable at this point. I've tried many more stuff other than this and usually just downloading setprop app and changing user_refresh_rate value to 0 disables refresh rate switching. But only for a while , doesn't survive reboots and locking screen or opening certain blackilsted apps like mobile legends and such that are hard locked by miui at certain screen refresh rates....
Do yourself a favour and uninstall Miui
Rstment ^m^ said:
It ain't permanent... Just switch to any aosp rom. I'm tired of ****king memeui.
I installed it for performance and convenience of many more features but dumb stuff like this is unbearable at this point. I've tried many more stuff other than this and usually just downloading setprop app and changing user_refresh_rate value to 0 disables refresh rate switching. But only for a while , doesn't survive reboots and locking screen or opening certain blackilsted apps like mobile legends and such that are hard locked by miui at certain screen refresh rates....
Do yourself a favour and uninstall Miui
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It is working for now. I'm planning to install arrowos. Do you know if it supports dc dimming for reading at night?
khaledegy99 said:
It is working for now. I'm planning to install arrowos. Do you know if it supports dc dimming for reading at night?
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No idea... It doesn't say anything
I've just set up my phone, and from all the videos never seen anyone comenting on the LTPO panel refresh rate. Tested the screen by enabling the FPS counter in developer settings and noticed it never goes down to 10hz. Even worse - always on stays locked at 120hz and home screen locks at 60hz. Is there something I am missing, or is it a bug?
IvanPTachev said:
I've just set up my phone, and from all the videos never seen anyone comenting on the LTPO panel refresh rate. Tested the screen by enabling the FPS counter in developer settings and noticed it never goes down to 10hz. Even worse - always on stays locked at 120hz and home screen locks at 60hz. Is there something I am missing, or is it a bug?
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I've seen on other device threads were the built in FPS counter doesn't show the actual refresh rate and only bounces between those two. Can't recall what method was used but there are other apps that will display the proper info.
I see. I read on the Xda review, that it fluctuates between 60-120 so wanted to test and see if thats true, as I would imagine it dropping down to 10hz would be way better for battery performance.
This review is confirming that too. The variable refresh rate is definitely broken...
JDUS said:
This review is confirming that too. The variable refresh rate is definitely broken...
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As I understand it, SurfaceFlinger only sees 60 and 120, but can't see below 60. It is the display controller that sees below 60, so I suspect the Poco X3 has a different display controller than the Pixel 6 Pro. I think the Pixel 6 Pro would have to have a different display controller to allow the the developer options refresh rate to display anything below 60.
Anyone having an issue where the phone just drops down to 60hz even thou the slider is set on 120hz?? Happens about once a day for me the only way to fix it is a reboot
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Anyone having an issue where the phone just drops down to 60hz even thou the slider is set on 120hz?? Happens about once a day for me the only way to fix it is a reboot
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Are you using tasker? I noticed in tasker that one of the tasks I had running dropped the display down to 60hz. Either that or it lowered performance in some way.
I am not using tasker the phone is 100% stock don't know why I'm having this issue
The Oneplus 9 Pro was meant to go down 1Hz when looking at static content but no one can verify that, according to GSM Arena.
If the static content can be a GIF image, one can easily verify the 1 Hz claim if the GIF updates only once every second.
The LTPO display seems a mess. Totally broken.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1455577873209864198
Joelbrentbell said:
Anyone having an issue where the phone just drops down to 60hz even thou the slider is set on 120hz?? Happens about once a day for me the only way to fix it is a reboot
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yes, i am having the exact same issue.
i reckon it could be due to some app which hangs in the background as i already witnessed that if you listen to telegram or whatsapp voice messages and minimize the messenger app, you get the same issue.
I truly am not a person who feels I need to point fingers at the competition in order to feel better, but this is interesting: Samsung attempts to explain Galaxy S22 screen refresh-rate shenanigans
I just noticed, whilst playing around with the Show Refresh option (developer options), that the phone constantly uses 120hz whilst having AOD enabled - shouldn't it go down to 60hz? I know that some people here thought Google would set it to 10hz, but that was debunked a while ago. As of now, only Apple cycles correctly between different VRR modi (Google only does 60/120Hz, Apple does 24/30/60/90/120 as far as I know)
It seems odd that the phone is running a high refresh rate, when only a portion of the screen is running, completely still without anything running on the screen expect a static image.
Hopefully, it's yet another aspect that will get ironed out in further Android 12 updates.
Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
www.androidheadlines.com
Anyone else notice the phone also got super snappy and smooth all the time? I tried turning on show refresh rate an hour ago just to find out the phone never go back down to 60hz.
I tried not touching the screen untill it actually auto lock, opening youtube, netflix, tiktok, chrome, settings etc etc. I even rebooted and no change. Battery life has been slightly better which is kinda weird though.
Also i checked twice, the force peak refresh rate is turned off.
Try clearing the system cache.
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Anyone else notice the phone also got super snappy and smooth all the time? I tried turning on show refresh rate an hour ago just to find out the phone never go back down to 60hz.
I tried not touching the screen untill it actually auto lock, opening youtube, netflix, tiktok, chrome, settings etc etc. I even rebooted and no change. Battery life has been slightly better which is kinda weird though.
Also i checked twice, the force peak refresh rate is turned off.
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I just checked my phone (updated to .037), and the refresh rate is still dropping to 60hz whenever there is no input, so the adaptive refresh rate still works on my end.
My phone is dropping to 60 when there's no input as well. I just played a YouTube video and it went to 60.
On my device i have the exact same problem. As you already described, it is "always" on 120hz - it only jumps down to 60 Hz for a very brief moment, then again reaches the 120hz. This cicle is repeating itself as long as the display is turned on.
I already tried disabling all overlay services and other settings that could, as far as I could think of, have an impact on these behavior, like apps that have access to usage or device controll etc.
But as for now, I don't have a solution for this.
The strange part is that i also have a better display on time since the last update, but after checking the battery temperature for the last week (i installed the .037 on thursday) it reaches higher temperatures now as it was before the update, with around 34 Celsius on .036 vs 38 Celsius on .037 after around an hour of the same activities in the mostly same environment. The temperature difference does make sense for me, because the screen won't chill as it should. On the other hand, the longer battery life does'nt seem to fit too well in this picture.
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On my device i have the exact same problem. As you already described, it is "always" on 120hz - it only jumps down to 60 Hz for a very brief moment, then again reaches the 120hz. This cicle is repeating itself as long as the display is turned on.
I already tried disabling all overlay services and other settings that could, as far as I could think of, have an impact on these behavior, like apps that have access to usage or device controll etc.
But as for now, I don't have a solution for this.
The strange part is that i also have a better display on time since the last update, but after checking the battery temperature for the last week (i installed the .037 on thursday) it reaches higher temperatures now as it was before the update, with around 34 Celsius on .036 vs 38 Celsius on .037 after around an hour of the same activities in the mostly same environment. The temperature difference does make sense for me, because the screen won't chill as it should. On the other hand, the longer battery life does'nt seem to fit too well in this picture.
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As far as we know, it's currently buggy anyway, since the
Pixel 6 Pro is consuming more power in 60Hz mode than in 120Hz one*
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Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
www.androidheadlines.com
*in certain scenarios, like low brightness
Battery life tests have also shown that there is only a minor difference in battery life between 60hz or 120hz, so it doesn't really matter and you should - because of that - 120hz anyway since it's a much better experience.
Anyone from the UK had this update yet?
I only ask because I don't have any major issues and fingers crossed this update doesn't make anything worse.
wilpang said:
Anyone from the UK had this update yet?
I only ask because I don't have any major issues and fingers crossed this update doesn't make anything worse.
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Officially it's only a rollout in the USA and Canada, it will come to the rest of the world with the December update (or you manually sideload it, as I did).
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Officially it's only a rollout in the USA and Canada, it will come to the rest of the world with the December update (or you manually sideload it, as I did).
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Notice anything major from the update?
Morgrain said:
As far as we know, it's currently buggy anyway, since the
Pixel 6 Pro Consuming More Power In 60Hz Mode Than In 120Hz One
The Google Pixel 6 Pro seems to be consuming more power in 60Hz mode, than it does in 120Hz mode. Needless to say, this is not normal, as higher refresh
www.androidheadlines.com
*in certain scenarios, like low brightness
Battery life tests have also shown that there is only a minor difference in battery life between 60hz or 120hz, so it doesn't really matter and you should - because of that - 120hz anyway since it's a much better experience.
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Adaptive refresh is totally borked on the 6Pro.