Develop Bugs

[Q] How is battery life compared to G3? (g3 owner willing to buy g4)

So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?

i had G3 and recently i bought G4 not much difference but lets say the G4 win with alittle bit but from my opinion i didnt see abig difference

advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues

rafaelw said:
So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tell us how much sot/run time you get from the G3 ?
and which variant is it ? 2GB or 3GB RAM.
---------- Post added at 06:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:50 PM ----------
dork997 said:
advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days

One Twelve said:
Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't feed the troll :good:

i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
The Endurance rating worked out to 54 hours, 9 hours less than the G3. The issue was with the high standby power draw, which puts a strain on the battery even when you're not using the phone. The other disappointment was the talk time, which couldn't reach 17 hours - an 8 hour drop from the G3.
We reran the tests several times and kept getting the same results.
Anyway, the web browsing time was pretty good - nothing spectacular, but good. It also marks the only improvement since the G3 as the video playback is below average for the flagship class.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-review-1254p3.php

imeem said:
i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.

One Twelve said:
Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.

imeem said:
ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes because this is a difficult subject so keep a note when he talks of the sot's under different conditions.
Had to watch it a couple of times but i got it in the end. See the comments too.
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.

There is no difference between G3 and G4 for battery life max i can get 4 and half hours for battery life and minimum only almost 3 hours SOT. Maybe if next LG device is like this battery life i need to change to another brand

Yeah my experience in two days....Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)...... And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly. There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it

dork997 said:
Yeah my experience in two days....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How long have you had the G4 ?
Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really ? how many people are affected ? just one i saw in this thread. So the update did not cause battery problems. v10c is for euro h815.
How much sot & runtime did you get before the update ?
How much sot & runtime did you get after the update ?
figures.
And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go to the service centre and replace them.
There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read this
ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, i can find this kind of comment for any phone on this board
many times its because people are interested in some other phone that came out after.

Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected. If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life. So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

dieselhazza said:
Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
heh we're still trying to get you to tell us what your issue is. Any wants to follow the fun discussion see here.
If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those phones have other issues. So you trade one set of pros for another set of cons
There is no perfect device. You learn to manage what you got.
So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3h sot, lots of complaining, 4h+Sot less complaining or it goes silent. Seen this a few times now. That is what surprised me. Until you realise that people find 8h run time too short but once it gets into 12-14h+ its ok. Its the standby time that is more important.
---------- Post added at 08:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:20 PM ----------
Pfeffernuss said:
Don't feed the troll :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The motives are interesting. want to know what dork is upto, he just smashed his phone :silly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/help-urgent-t3224403
a firmware downgrade gone wrong and no service centre available.

One Twelve said:
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range before i have to run to the charger. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.

imeem said:
I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top. that extra hour means 2-4h longer run time.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible

One Twelve said:
Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility

imeem said:
Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then you can expect a 4-5h sot/12-14h run time with normal use. Good enough ?
web browsing won't eat up much battery, its push notifications and constant syncs over weak signal that do it faster.

IMO the g3 was garbage...i had 2 that had emmc failures and all 3 i had overheating issues...battery sucked...only pro was there was a good bit of development...i love my g4...only device i miss over my g4 is my g2...battery life is great with minimal tweaks and greenify...my last run was 5 h 2m sot and 47.5 standby...h81110n

EMUI 11.0.0.125 seeding in Mate 20 X AL00 India

My Mate 20 X AL00 updated successfully to EMUI 11 (close to 3 GB) and the initial impressions are good.
November 2020 security patch.
New animation for charging, icons, windows closing-opening, etc.
UI is smoother and fluidic than previous.
Loud Speaker output almost similar to Stock EMUI 9
Battery backup similar to previous.
Petal Search is awesome.
MeeTime
Will post more after using for few days.
Cheers!

myavu said:
My Mate 20 X AL00 updated successfully to EMUI 11 (close to 3 GB) and the initial impressions are good.
November 2020 security patch.
New animation for charging, icons, windows closing-opening, etc.
UI is smoother and fluidic than previous.
Loud Speaker output almost similar to Stock EMUI 9
Battery backup similar to previous.
Petal Search is awesome.
MeeTime
Will post more after using for few days.
Cheers!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did anyone else get this update? Cannot find it through VPN :/ Also are you still forced to use stock launcher ?

bonczas said:
Did anyone else get this update? Cannot find it through VPN :/ Also are you still forced to use stock launcher ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I am using stock launcher and I am happy with it.

Yep I got it on my AL00 using it in US on T-Mobile and ATT but was on my home wifi used Support app to do update. Still no way to set 3rd party launchers as default.

hey guys, received the update notification for 11.0.0.125 yesterday here in Singapore. Sporting a chinese EVR-AL00 8/256 GB model and was on EMUI 10.1.0.167 previously. Here the details:
So far so good, some of the settings are re-arranged and look different, new animations and vibration patterns, Security Patch got updated, as well as the Kernel version (didnt check previous Baseband but im assuming that got also updated). Lets see how battery life is!

jbmc83 said:
hey guys, received the update notification for 11.0.0.125 yesterday here in Singapore. Sporting a chinese EVR-AL00 8/256 GB model and was on EMUI 10.1.0.167 previously. Here the details:
So far so good, some of the settings are re-arranged and look different, new animations and vibration patterns, Security Patch got updated, as well as the Kernel version (didnt check previous Baseband but im assuming that got also updated). Lets see how battery life is!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hows the battery life on it so far?

Deanro said:
Hows the battery life on it so far?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pretty sweet, averaging 17h15m SOT as per AccuBattery can highly recommend using DuckDuckGo browser and Hibernator Pro to save on data and energy consumption!

jbmc83 said:
pretty sweet, averaging 17h15m SOT as per AccuBattery can highly recommend using DuckDuckGo browser and Hibernator Pro to save on data and energy consumption!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi jbmc,
No offense but I cannot believe you get 17 hours SOT. Not calling you a liar. Probably accubattery is not reading your phone correctly.
I have the L29 from singapore - although I live in USA with both singapore and USA sim cards. Do you know when my phone will get the 11 update?

Deanro said:
Hi jbmc,
No offense but I cannot believe you get 17 hours SOT. Not calling you a liar. Probably accubattery is not reading your phone correctly.
I have the L29 from singapore - although I live in USA with both singapore and USA sim cards. Do you know when my phone will get the 11 update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha i get it, I also had to check my actual usage and the screen active time shown in the settings under battery, it actually pans out! after roughly 8.5 hours SOT i was at around 50% battery left.
as for the EMUI 11 rollout, really no idea my friend. it seems the timings of the regional specific rollouts are all over the place. only thing i can say is that it will surely come in general tho, chinese models usually get served first before the international counterparts-

jbmc83 said:
haha i get it, I also had to check my actual usage and the screen active time shown in the settings under battery, it actually pans out! after roughly 8.5 hours SOT
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. No one gets past 10 -12 hours SOT on the 20x. Cheers

Deanro said:
Exactly. No one gets past 10 -12 hours SOT on the 20x. Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
read again, it checks out

jbmc83 said:
read again, it checks out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hell are you talking about

Deanro said:
The hell are you talking about
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dunno what to tell u man *lol*
but im serious, ive always been one to optimize the heck out of the system to maximize SOT
i.e. settings permissions for ALL apps depending on how i use them, restricting background data as much as possible, using wifi wherever available, tuning in min usable screen brightness, setting battery optimization for all apps, switching off all sensors whenever i dont actively use them (i.e. NFC, BT, GPS, etc.), using apps like Hibernator Pro or Greenify to hibernate all unused apps, using privacy focused browser like DuckDuckGo to save on unnecessary data, using 3G instead of 4G/LTE to minimize energy consumption....
every little bit helps and then u end up with awesome SOT

jbmc83 said:
dunno what to tell u man *lol*
but im serious, ive always been one to optimize the heck out of the system to maximize SOT
i.e. settings permissions for ALL apps depending on how i use them, restricting background data as much as possible, using wifi wherever available, tuning in min usable screen brightness, setting battery optimization for all apps, switching off all sensors whenever i dont actively use them (i.e. NFC, BT, GPS, etc.), using apps like Hibernator Pro or Greenify to hibernate all unused apps, using privacy focused browser like DuckDuckGo to save on unnecessary data, using 3G instead of 4G/LTE to minimize energy consumption....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok youre confusing because before you agreed with me that it was not possible to get sot of 17 hours on android 11. Now youre saying it is possible but only by turning off unneeded background data, wifi, apps etc., not through android 11 alone. You also didnt confirm that you had android 11 installed.
Even if you took all of the steps you mentioned you cannot go from 8 - 9 SOT and double it to 17. Thats impossible.

Deanro said:
Ok youre confusing because before you agreed with me that it was not possible to get sot of 17 hours on android 11. Now youre saying it is possible but only by turning off unneeded background data, wifi, apps etc., not through android 11 alone. You also didnt confirm that you had android 11 installed.
Even if you took all of the steps you mentioned you cannot go from 8 - 9 SOT and double it to 17. Thats impossible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ah no, u misunderstood mate, i was agreeing with you that it initially seemed too good to be true, but after checking SOT via different sources i was able to confirm those runtimes
I have EMUI 11 / Android 10 installed, Android 11 is not available on the Mate 20 series.
I was never down to 8-9 hours SOT to begin with...unless maybe at max screen brightness and using Maps with High perf. GPS on 4G mobile data all day long haha.
Before on EMUI 10.1 with Greenify and CM Browser I was at around 12-14h SOT, now im more in the range of 16-18h on EMUI 11 with Hibernator Pro and DuckDuckGo Browser.
Hope that clears things up!

jbmc83 said:
ah no, u misunderstood mate, i was agreeing with you that it initially seemed too good to be true, but after checking SOT via different sources i was able to confirm those runtimes
I have EMUI 11 / Android 10 installed, Android 11 is not available on the Mate 20 series.
I was never down to 8-9 hours SOT to begin with...unless maybe at max screen brightness and using Maps with High perf. GPS on 4G mobile data all day long haha.
Before on EMUI 10.1 with Greenify and CM Browser I was at around 12-14h SOT, now im more in the range of 16-18h on EMUI 11 with Hibernator Pro and DuckDuckGo Browser.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi there,
I have android 10/emui 10.1 on my mate 20x. But you say you have emui 11 but that android 11 isnt available for the mate series. I think you made a typo.
You said you had greenify on 10.1. But how can that be if you cant root the 20x on that version?
With hibernator pro what apps and system services did you freeze? I will do the same with mine.
Its just not possible to get double the SOT on the 20x when max SOT is 10 hours. Hope youre not trolling. Something isnt right here.

Deanro said:
Hi there,
I have android 10/emui 10.1 on my mate 20x. But you say you have emui 11 but that android 11 isnt available for the mate series. I think you made a typo.
You said you had greenify on 10.1. But how can that be if you cant root the 20x on that version?
With hibernator pro what apps and system services did you freeze? I will do the same with mine.
Its just not possible to get double the SOT on the 20x when max SOT is 10 hours. Hope youre not trolling. Something isnt right here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not a typo. EMUI is NOT equal to Android. EMUI 11 for the Mate 20 series is based on Android 10, NOT 11.
You can use Greenify in non-root mode, no problem.
I can provide a list of apps and services on freeze for Hibernator Pro, just give me a bit of time.
Not trolling. Who says max SOT is 10 hours? my current values are in the range of 14-18 hours depending on usage and averaging roughly 15-16.
Edit: I attached a screenshot of Battery usage for the past 7 days as shown in Accubattery. At 5.4%/h for screen on, you would get a total of 100/5.4 = 18.5h of SOT. But of course, that is only if you use a whole battery charge with screen on. So you need to add in the energy consumption during screen off: 300% screen on + 45% screen off = 345 % total.
55h55m total SOT divided by 345% = 16.2h SOT per 100% charge on average.
Btw, when I compare the SOT times measured in Accubattery with the values shown under settings / Battery, they check out, both show the same values (at worst only a few minutes apart).
Also attached preference files for Hibernator Pro, hope this helps!

jbmc83 said:
Not a typo. EMUI is NOT equal to Android. EMUI 11 for the Mate 20 series is based on Android 10, NOT 11.
Not trolling. Who says max SOT is 10 hours? my current values are in the range of 14-18 hours depending on usage and averaging roughly 15-16.
Edit: I attached a screenshot of Battery usage for the past 7 days as shown in Accubattery. At 5.4%/h for screen on, you would get a total of 100/5.4 = 18.5h of SOT. But of course, that is only if you use a whole battery charge with screen on. So you need to add in the energy consumption during screen off: 300% screen on + 45% screen off = 345 % total.
55h55m total SOT divided by 345% = 16.2h SOT per 100% charge on average.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi there,
I dont know if you have emui 11 so I cant confirm if you do or not. If you do indeed have emui 11 theres no way in hell huawei figured out how to double SOT on it since they werent able to before in 10.
Average SOT on 20x is 9 - 11 hours. Not double that. I've been reading this forum on the 20x for a year. I've never come across anyone claiming SOT greater than 12 hours. Never.
Is it possible to install your prefs into my Hibernator Pro?
If Hibernator Pro does that same job as greenify why use greenify at all? Which apps did you freeze in greenify?

Deanro said:
Hi there,
I dont know if you have emui 11 so I cant confirm if you do or not. If you do indeed have emui 11 theres no way in hell huawei figured out how to double SOT on it since they werent able to before in 10.
Average SOT on 20x is 9 - 11 hours. Not double that. I've been reading this forum on the 20x for a year. I've never come across anyone claiming SOT greater than 12 hours. Never.
Is it possible to install your prefs into my Hibernator Pro?
If Hibernator Pro does that same job as greenify why use greenify at all? Which apps did you freeze in greenify?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes i have EMUI 11 installed. never said they "doubled" SOT. as mentioned before, on EMUI 10.1 i was at roughly 12-14h SOT, now its about 2-4h more depending on usage. thats not double
tbh, i never fell down to 9-11h SOT unless in crazy circumstances (i.e. 100% screen brightness the whole time). so not sure how others are using their phone...
in any case, i cant do more than show u proof via screenshots. if you dont believe me, thats fine, not forcing anyone to do anything here. just providing info
should be possible by importing the preferences via settings i uploaded in Hibernator Pro. just double check the exception and hibernation lists afterwards, since i probably have different user apps installed than you. system apps should be almost identical though.
I had been using Greenify for years now, mostly on rooted phones. Since im not rooted on the 20x i used it in non-rooted mode. i wasnt aware of hibernator pro until just recently, so i just gave it a try and it works like a charm!

jbmc83 said:
yes i have EMUI 11 installed. never said they "doubled" SOT. as mentioned before, on EMUI 10.1 i was at roughly 12-14h SOT, now its about 2-4h more depending on usage. thats not double
tbh, i never fell down to 9-11h SOT unless in crazy circumstances (i.e. 100% screen brightness the whole time). so not sure how others are using their phone...
in any case, i cant do more than show u proof via screenshots. if you dont believe me, thats fine, not forcing anyone to do anything here. just providing info
should be possible by importing the preferences via settings i uploaded in Hibernator Pro. just double check the exception and hibernation lists afterwards, since i probably have different user apps installed than you. system apps should be almost identical though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok I'm confused again by your statement. You cannot get 12 - 14h SOT when everyone gets an average of 8 - 10h SOT. Your claim of 17h SOT is roughly double what everyone gets. So in essence you did say "doubling."
Then you outlandishly claim that android 11 isnt available for the mate series which is NOT true. Why do you say that when websites say it will be available for the 20x? Wish you would explain this with proof.
Its not that we dont want to believe you its that we cant believe you because your claims clearly fall far outside the norm. Post as many pics as you want as proof but those are not impossible to alter.

Question How is the rom - kernel scene for the F3?

The price for the Poco F3 has gotten even lower here making it a incredible deal
I am quite tempted to pick up one but ii wanted to know how are the ROMs for it? what should i avoid and etc?
Which Kernel - Rom can net me more battery life too

BrokeBloke1969 said:
The price for the Poco F3 has gotten even lower here making it a incredible deal
I am quite tempted to pick up one but ii wanted to know how are the ROMs for it? what should i avoid and etc?
Which Kernel - Rom can net me more battery life too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)

I 'm not sure what the guy on top said, but since Lineage officially supports this phone, it's gonna stay a long time into relevancy. Lineage (and LineageForMicroG) is the only option if you want clean pure AOSP android. GCam's also are many. We are talking about 120hz refresh amoled display with a great chip 870, which till that day is quite powerful and most of all, does not thermal throttle easy. Watch this youtube video to see for yourself! All in all this phone was a major step forward from the F1, which I come from and don't go into the ROM rabbit hole (been there done that). The only ROM that is relevant/stable/clean is Lineage.
EDIT: also you may just skip the current generation of qualcomm Gen 1 it has many issues, namely thermal throttling, battery draining etc.

Zatsando said:
I 'm not sure what the guy on top said, but since Lineage officially supports this phone, it's gonna stay a long time into relevancy. Lineage (and LineageForMicroG) is the only option if you want clean pure AOSP android. GCam's also are many. We are talking about 120hz refresh amoled display with a great chip 870, which till that day is quite powerful and most of all, does not thermal throttle easy. Watch this youtube video to see for yourself! All in all this phone was a major step forward from the F1, which I come from and don't go into the ROM rabbit hole (been there done that). The only ROM that is relevant/stable/clean is Lineage.
EDIT: also you may just skip the current generation of qualcomm Gen 1 it has many issues, namely thermal throttling, battery draining etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did Lineage Release A12 Rom for alioth?

Lucid_10 said:
Did Lineage Release A12 Rom for alioth?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
only google pixel phones have los 19, but these phone are the beta testers of the bunch. I have used android 12 and I must say, it's not ready yet!

Rstment ^m^ said:
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd love to get a Pixel 6 but the battery life on it is disheartening comparing it with the 5a, Tensor isn't looking great.
Thank you for going in-depth friend, i appreciate it
Zatsando said:
I 'm not sure what the guy on top said, but since Lineage officially supports this phone, it's gonna stay a long time into relevancy. Lineage (and LineageForMicroG) is the only option if you want clean pure AOSP android. GCam's also are many. We are talking about 120hz refresh amoled display with a great chip 870, which till that day is quite powerful and most of all, does not thermal throttle easy. Watch this youtube video to see for yourself! All in all this phone was a major step forward from the F1, which I come from and don't go into the ROM rabbit hole (been there done that). The only ROM that is relevant/stable/clean is Lineage.
EDIT: also you may just skip the current generation of qualcomm Gen 1 it has many issues, namely thermal throttling, battery draining etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't used Lineage in ages, since 4 or 5 Androids ago, for how long is it supported by the devs?

BrokeBloke1969 said:
I'd love to get a Pixel 6 but the battery life on it is disheartening comparing it with the 5a, Tensor isn't looking great.
Thank you for going in-depth friend, i appreciate it
I haven't used Lineage in ages, since 4 or 5 Androids ago, for how long is it supported by the devs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know the exact time but since my old mi 5, that i gave to my dad, is still receiving update (ffs this is a phone from 2016) I can safely assume it will be supported for many years to come.

BrokeBloke1969 said:
I'd love to get a Pixel 6 but the battery life on it is disheartening comparing it with the 5a, Tensor isn't looking great.
Thank you for going in-depth friend, i appreciate it
I haven't used Lineage in ages, since 4 or 5 Androids ago, for how long is it supported by the devs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is not supported.
I talked to dev and he basically threw his hands tryimg to fix stuff that isn't working.. He says he wanted to implement fixes that arrow has but was refused...
Touch is horrendous on lineage , it lags behind and gets stuck a lot in scrolling... These things you don't notice at first , you have to use it for a while in order to notice but when you do is a huge deal breaker.
Not even just scrolling... You notice micro stutter as you use the phone - micro stutters are fkin hell. I was happy with it at first only to have to uninstall within 1/2 hours when I noticed that touch just ain't working right
Don't bother getting this one is my take. You won't geg the features you paid for on aosp - touch polling , temperature , performance , battery charging speed ( You can charge fast forsure but other than arrow all other roms overheat to death during even regular charge speed - 40°C-50°C without anything open ) all is worse than the spec sheet...
My is not even year old but already falling apart ( Backplate lifting off from day one , charging port fkin cracked - the cheap metal they use for the phone frame cracked ... all of this on 0 major falls
Also don't think miui is any better. Bunch of restrictions, they basically hold you hostage and enable 60/120hz refresh rate as they see fit. Some apps like youtube/games are blacklisted and only allow 60hz refresh rate... Terrible thermal engine , that's the major ones at least. Everything else you can live with for the price point but the utterly lacking perfomance + restrictions on refresh rate and even touch polling unless you specifically tell it not to in certain apps are not worth dealing with.
I miss my old phone , I'd go back to my 60hz older gen phone rather than have a phone that jumps in between 60/120hz as it sees fit or the same deal with perfomance - throttling to hell with terrible performance under load

Rstment ^m^ said:
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
May i know what version of arrowos did you used? Android 11 version or the 12 one?

sandiskusb said:
May i know what version of arrowos did you used? Android 11 version or the 12 one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go with android 12 as long as you don't use apps that won't work on it

Rstment ^m^ said:
Arrow is the only decent one.
Feel free to try others too but you'll most likely find arrow the most functional one - practically no bugs , no drain during night , almost full touch polling rate ( is close to miui touch polling , but leagues ahead of other aosp roms , enable it in settings first ), has kernel profiles per app like benchmark,gaming,etc. , is overall the best.
The only issue is that this phone is utterly shet in the custom ROM scene overall ... If you use arrow as the best representative of what's available you see that certain parts are almost as good as in miui like touch polling ( Never as good as miui tho... ) , and those are only few , basic stuff like camera doesn't work , auto focus is nonexistent , some camera sensors do no load like macro and idk if any other one ... The picture quality is utterly shet... Unusable
Idk what to tell you... There's other stuff too like screen edges showing pixels, brightness not quite as bright as the panel goes in the miui... In a year or two's time maybe it'll get as good as miui lol But I'd honestly get a pixel if you're into developing scene ( Don't expect much in here , the situation is that it works, many roms to choose from but still leaves a lot to be expected and I don't even mean any custom features... Just the basic hardware that phone came with)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PixelOS is currently the most functional one i've tried between (ArrowOS, PixelPlusUI, crDroid, Lineageos). Has a few more features than ArrowOS and battery life is just a bit better

I am just happy with CrDroid

a lot of roms are decent and stable, but official doesn't mean perfect. close to stock, Los is a good Choice but a11. on a12, arrow os and syberia are great choices if you want aosp experience with little extra tweaks. for high customization, crdroid is a great choice (very active devs). I am currently on ancient os (not available on xda it seems) to be which has high customization and the smoothest ui and ux I've seen till now, ahead of the competition in this area IMO. it has updated drivers and vulkan renderer. has anyone compared last version of ancient with other custom roms in term of smoothness ? does anyone knows if any major rom switched to updated drivers or vulkan rendering as default?

Rstment ^m^ said:
Go with android 12 as long as you don't use apps that won't work on it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, thanks

BrokeBloke1969 said:
The price for the Poco F3 has gotten even lower here making it a incredible deal
I am quite tempted to pick up one but ii wanted to know how are the ROMs for it? what should i avoid and etc?
Which Kernel - Rom can net me more battery life too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to see the complete scene, go there: https://t.me/PocoF3IDUpdate
Enjoy

nicky69100 said:
a lot of roms are decent and stable, but official doesn't mean perfect. close to stock, Los is a good Choice but a11. on a12, arrow os and syberia are great choices if you want aosp experience with little extra tweaks. for high customization, crdroid is a great choice (very active devs). I am currently on ancient os (not available on xda it seems) to be which has high customization and the smoothest ui and ux I've seen till now, ahead of the competition in this area IMO. it has updated drivers and vulkan renderer. has anyone compared last version of ancient with other custom roms in term of smoothness ? does anyone knows if any major rom switched to updated drivers or vulkan rendering as default?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is the battery consumption on ancient os? How is the idle drain compared to other roms?

Dror1 said:
How is the battery consumption on ancient os? How is the idle drain compared to other roms?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have between 6 7 hours of sot in mixed use (Netflix, browsing, Spotify, 1hr call, 1hr gaming on parsec). idle drain is great, I lose only 1-2% at night with data disabled. At first I had some drain which disappeared after disabling some Google apps (auto, wellbeing, search, system intelligence...)

Rstment ^m^ said:
is not supported.
I talked to dev and he basically threw his hands tryimg to fix stuff that isn't working.. He says he wanted to implement fixes that arrow has but was refused...
Touch is horrendous on lineage , it lags behind and gets stuck a lot in scrolling... These things you don't notice at first , you have to use it for a while in order to notice but when you do is a huge deal breaker.
Not even just scrolling... You notice micro stutter as you use the phone - micro stutters are fkin hell. I was happy with it at first only to have to uninstall within 1/2 hours when I noticed that touch just ain't working right
Don't bother getting this one is my take. You won't geg the features you paid for on aosp - touch polling , temperature , performance , battery charging speed ( You can charge fast forsure but other than arrow all other roms overheat to death during even regular charge speed - 40°C-50°C without anything open ) all is worse than the spec sheet...
My is not even year old but already falling apart ( Backplate lifting off from day one , charging port fkin cracked - the cheap metal they use for the phone frame cracked ... all of this on 0 major falls
Also don't think miui is any better. Bunch of restrictions, they basically hold you hostage and enable 60/120hz refresh rate as they see fit. Some apps like youtube/games are blacklisted and only allow 60hz refresh rate... Terrible thermal engine , that's the major ones at least. Everything else you can live with for the price point but the utterly lacking perfomance + restrictions on refresh rate and even touch polling unless you specifically tell it not to in certain apps are not worth dealing with.
I miss my old phone , I'd go back to my 60hz older gen phone rather than have a phone that jumps in between 60/120hz as it sees fit or the same deal with perfomance - throttling to hell with terrible performance under load
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nicky69100 said:
I have between 6 7 hours of sot in mixed use (Netflix, browsing, Spotify, 1hr call, 1hr gaming on parsec). idle drain is great, I lose only 1-2% at night with data disabled. At first I had some drain which disappeared after disabling some Google apps (auto, wellbeing, search, system intelligence...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you again for the responses, what kernel have you used the your custom roms?

BrokeBloke1969 said:
Thank you again for the responses, what kernel have you used the your custom roms?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use embedded kernels, I didn't try other kernels yet (it is already hard enough to find a stable rom XD)

In conclusion poco F3 is great phone for customizing ROM. So many great ROM option. I love my CRDroid 8.2 , it had some flaw but it almost perfect for my need. I believe you will also found the one ROM that suit u best. (Heck even miui derivatives are plenty for this phone)

Question Android alternatives on S22

Any thoughts on when LineageOS or alternatives will run on the S22 ?
I'd like to use LineageOS primarily because my battery will last longer and I don't mind running Android 12, doesn't need to be the latest.
Are there any options open to me or do I need to wait some months or just buy an S21 ?

I would get the N10+ running on Android 10, no higher. Other than the smoothness of the display and the slight cam improvements it's a better phone.
The fact that a 3yo flagship can effectively compete with the latest Samsung/Google Adroid OS version shows how badly both have dropped the ball.

Hopefully there will be an GSI that runs well on the exynos S22, phh has got an S22.
Little hope for any aosplike roms tho

foe me its not worth loosing waranty and features from one ui. check the other threads with my attempts
final version for exynos s22 is this:
i recommend galaxy max hz. didnt even touch the refresh rates.
use doze settings with all sensors off. im back to s21 6hr sot using this method.
also turn wifi off when screem off untill samsung fixes the firmware. i use a few tasker profiles and kwgt/nova launcher. without them i think the drain would be even lower. standby drain is under 1%/h
slight debloat and degoglify the phone . use the apps you need only
good luck and come back with the results

xjust said:
foe me its not worth loosing waranty and features from one ui. check the other threads with my attempts
final version for exynos s22 is this:
i recommend galaxy max hz. didnt even touch the refresh rates.
use doze settings with all sensors off. im back to s21 6hr sot using this method.
also turn wifi off when screem off untill samsung fixes the firmware. i use a few tasker profiles and kwgt/nova launcher. without them i think the drain would be even lower. standby drain is under 1%/h
slight debloat and degoglify the phone . use the apps you need only
good luck and come back with the results
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does the doze settings disable push notifications?

yes.it delays then. but you can skip doze for the apps you need notifications instantly by disabling battery optimization for those apps

xjust said:
foe me its not worth loosing waranty and features from one ui. check the other threads with my attempts
final version for exynos s22 is this:
i recommend galaxy max hz. didnt even touch the refresh rates.
use doze settings with all sensors off. im back to s21 6hr sot using this method.
also turn wifi off when screem off untill samsung fixes the firmware. i use a few tasker profiles and kwgt/nova launcher. without them i think the drain would be even lower. standby drain is under 1%/h
slight debloat and degoglify the phone . use the apps you need only
good luck and come back with the results
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed, take out the trash...
You'll just lose functionality by going to a generic OS. One UI, the spen, the cams are big reasons people buy Samsung's. This phone is not Samsung's best effort but that doesn't mean it can't be optimized into something that runs a lot better then it is now... without updates.
Play with it and find your own workarounds.
Once you learn how to optimize that OS version, stay on it unless the upgrade is proven good and adds substantial value to your device's mission.
Don't except token trinket upgrades that cost you lost time and device usability/functionality.

Why did we abandon our P4 and P4XL?

I just got a new pixel 4 xl from Google. Yes I said new. I had a bad battery batch from my preorder pixel 4 xl and it wasn't as bad but it was sensitive to 70°F Santa Cruz CA weather and over heat while charging in my car. I'm a phone technician myself so I'm savvy on quality charging equipment always used it. But it took this long to convince and my phone finally "not reading meter" not charging. It came with Android 10 still. So its upgraded to 13 and it's the 3rd fastest google phone out so why is my pixel 3xl which started rebooting over and over still getting lineage 13 updates but no android 13 custom roms for the 4 xl? I might have to change that start selling a AWS script to build 13 Roms?

I think maybe it's because it's still supported, and android 13 was launch mast month, so maybe as there isn't a very high demand, and it has been launch recently, devs didn't made the android 13 roms.
I would like to create them but I am working in getting a method to unlock the bootloader of a carrier-locked Pixel.

darkpower_4 said:
I just got a new pixel 4 xl from Google. Yes I said new. I had a bad battery batch from my preorder pixel 4 xl and it wasn't as bad but it was sensitive to 70°F Santa Cruz CA weather and over heat while charging in my car. I'm a phone technician myself so I'm savvy on quality charging equipment always used it. But it took this long to convince and my phone finally "not reading meter" not charging. It came with Android 10 still. So its upgraded to 13 and it's the 3rd fastest google phone out so why is my pixel 3xl which started rebooting over and over still getting lineage 13 updates but no android 13 custom roms for the 4 xl? I might have to change that start selling a AWS script to build 13 Roms?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hows your battery and SoT in A13?

kmry said:
hows your battery and SoT in A13?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My battery usually lasts the hole day, with motion sense enabled and the always on display based on motion sense. Medium usage though. For high usage I need to charge it on the middle of the day .
I don't know what SoT means

#mcl said:
My battery usually lasts the hole day, with motion sense enabled and the always on display based on motion sense. Medium usage though. For high usage I need to charge it on the middle of the day .
I don't know what SoT means
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SoT means Screen On time, which is how many hours you really use the phone with the screen ont; you can find more on the battery configuration or with GSAM for example.

kmry said:
hows your battery and SoT in A13?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well it's definitely better I've been using soli now that I have a new battery and the battery life has been about the same if I'm comparing it to 6 months before I had to rma it with soli disabled. I've been putting it through its rounds as a doordash driver. It doesn't die as quickly it runs a lot better. Android 11 was the worst I felt like when 12 came out I was robbed a whole year of performance before and 13 is even better I just want there to be security updates.