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Question Magic eraser - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Have to say if apple had this it would be front and center of any advertising and the press would love it ,since launch a few people who are not phone geeks have mentioned it to me think it's a great feature to have built in ,it has its limitations but Google definitely should be pushing it more .here's a good example.of things it works really well on

In the UK at least magic eraser is at the very front of Googles marketing push for the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro.

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Why is Front Facing Camera a huge deal?

To some people on the internet, Nokia's lack of a front-facing camera is a deal breaker. But tell me why? It has yet become common-use and people, for the most part only use it a few times for novelty purposes. I would understand not getting the lumia 800 because the screen is too small, but stop talking about FFC unless you can see a practical and consistent use for it.
Besides, Nokia compensates in other ways. It has Nokia Maps and its suppose to be the best built-in maps. No competition. Now that has a practical use. It's has a top-notch camera as well. Dual-LED with Carl Zeiss Tessar lens. However, I heard it's not on par with the Titan though.

It's a nice feature to have (e.g. seeing gf/wife/kids while on the road, etc) but yeah many people don't need it.
However, it's a check-the-box kind of feature. When your main competitors in the iPhone and the Android superphones have it, you better damn well make sure your flagship Windows Phone has it

Aerik said:
To some people on the internet, Nokia's lack of a front-facing camera is a deal breaker. But tell me why? It has yet become common-use and people, for the most part only use it a few times for novelty purposes. I would understand not getting the lumia 800 because the screen is too small, but stop talking about FFC unless you can see a practical and consistent use for it.
Besides, Nokia compensates in other ways. It has Nokia Maps and its suppose to be the best built-in maps. No competition. Now that has a practical use. It's has a top-notch camera as well. Dual-LED with Carl Zeiss Tessar lens. However, I heard it's not on par with the Titan though.
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I agree that it's a nice feature to have. It's a must for video calling, though.

it all comes down to features that are important to the end user, while i'm in the FFC is not all that important camp, there are others who might use it a lot on their current phone, or have a need and use for it, and to them, the loss of the FFC is a deal breaker.
the part that perplexes me is that the N9 has one, which makes the virtually identical 800 not having one irritating.
personally, i'm pretty let down by the 800, aside from the great industrial design, the rest of the phone seems pretty mediocre to me, but again, it's the stuff that the focus s and titan have that more fall into line with what i care about in my next phone which makes them better.
as far as why FFC could be a big deal, common reasons are long distance relationships (apple exploits the armed forces in their iphone4 ads, but it could also be people who travel a lot for business, in which a phone might be a more convenient way to see your loved ones when a laptop can be unweildly) the here and there instances when you need to show someone something, and a call or text won't do, etc.

It's not a big deal. I'm sure most people have complained about the screen size and storage, not the FFC. It's a case of ok if it's there, doesn't really matter if it's not.

Because some people what to video chat with loved ones, or it could be anybody really.
My last phone had one but I never used it. my new phone doesn't have one and I want one now and im not buying another phone without one now that most of my family has them
Just because its not important to you doesnt mean it isnt to other people and really I dont see why they took the ffc out to begin with, even HTC is adding them to their phones.

I think it's because people like to hold Microsoft to a higher standard. Apple and Google can mess up all they want but as soon as Microsoft does all the haters jump at it. The lack of FFC and dual core situation is no different.
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JustinTV773 said:
I think it's because people like to hold Microsoft to a higher standard. Apple and Google can mess up all they want but as soon as Microsoft does all the haters jump at it. The lack of FFC and dual core situation is no different.
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The attitude like this sparks the flame wars.
As for the OP: I am using ffc occasionally to gtalk with people when I am not near my laptop.
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lqaddict said:
The attitude like this sparks the flame wars.
As for the OP: I am using ffc occasionally to gtalk with people when I am not near my laptop.
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who said I was getting an attitude?
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Features, quite simply. While you, and admittedly I, do not use it (I don't, at all) we just acknowledge that many see this as a necessary - and at this point standard feature - that from here on out it should be present on any legitimately "high-end" phone. No questions, it should just be there. When Android phones started using it (and I'm aware they were around long before) people questioned it and their overall usefulness. It's obviously a well requested feature and should be as standard as an opposite facing camera, given the greater leaps made in video conferencing / chatting as of recent time.
Its not so much that it's a huge deal, but something that should just be standard.
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To some people on the internet, Nokia's lack of a front-facing camera is a deal breaker. But tell me why? It has yet become common-use and people, for the most part only use it a few times for novelty purposes. I would understand not getting the lumia 800 because the screen is too small, but stop talking about FFC unless you can see a practical and consistent use for it.
Besides, Nokia compensates in other ways. It has Nokia Maps and its suppose to be the best built-in maps. No competition. Now that has a practical use. It's has a top-notch camera as well. Dual-LED with Carl Zeiss Tessar lens. However, I heard it's not on par with the Titan though.
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It's mostly a gimmick IMO. People want it because it exists in other high end devices, so it makes their devices look worse without it.
I had 2 cell phones with front cameras and I only used that feature one time to test it for fun. I believe that not many people would want to hold their phone like a mirror and talk to their contacts with everyone around looking at their personal video calling.
It reminds me of personal assistants like Siri on the iPhone. Everybody likes them, but in the end they get used only inside the house for fun and sometimes away from other family members.
Front Cameras also raise the cost of a device without offering a great functionality.

Never-Ever used front Cam on mobiles i had..
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3-d and thinness are seen in standard high-end Tvs but that doesnt mean it's a deal breaker. Sure, it's a great to have, but some things can easily compensate. I'd say, in the way I use my phones, that Nokia maps easily well and over compensates for the lack of FFC. However, I do wish the screen was 4inches ...

also a nice feature for checking your hair
those of you saying it's no big deal.. you are quite ignorant. again, i'm one who would not use it (currently). but i know many who video chat all the time on their phone. if they currently are used to always video chatting, why would they get a phone without one. its very simple to see why many wouldn't even consider a phone without a FFC. it's all opinion guys.. just because you don't see the point in something doesn't mean it's pointless.

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It's a nice feature to have (e.g. seeing gf/wife/kids while on the road, etc) but yeah many people don't need it.
However, it's a check-the-box kind of feature. When your main competitors in the iPhone and the Android superphones have it, you better damn well make sure your flagship Windows Phone has it
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Best answer in the thread.

cgibsong002 said:
also a nice feature for checking your hair
those of you saying it's no big deal.. you are quite ignorant. again, i'm one who would not use it (currently). but i know many who video chat all the time on their phone. if they currently are used to always video chatting, why would they get a phone without one. its very simple to see why many wouldn't even consider a phone without a FFC. it's all opinion guys.. just because you don't see the point in something doesn't mean it's pointless.
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Not only that but MS just bought Skype video chat will be integrated at an OS level we want phones that will be ready for the inevitable.
I honestly only used the FFC for checking for boogers

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3-d and thinness are seen in standard high-end Tvs but that doesnt mean it's a deal breaker. Sure, it's a great to have, but some things can easily compensate. I'd say, in the way I use my phones, that Nokia maps easily well and over compensates for the lack of FFC. However, I do wish the screen was 4inches ...
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I don't think comparing a camera to a display type is fair. I'm sure one could make the argument for both, why one is would seem of more use, but one is obviously a stronger mobile standard than the other and offers more legitimate use. One being directed more toward media intake, albeit in a smaller demographic, while the other appeals and offers to a larger demographic. I have rarely used mine, but it is entrely more productive than some display tech. Especially considering when you consider a form that doesn't fill a scale such as HD output does. That's exactly why 3D TVs haven't made that jump yet.
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Aerik said:
3-d and thinness are seen in standard high-end Tvs but that doesnt mean it's a deal breaker. Sure, it's a great to have, but some things can easily compensate. I'd say, in the way I use my phones, that Nokia maps easily well and over compensates for the lack of FFC. However, I do wish the screen was 4inches ...
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You can't compensate that. Its a missing hardware component. Its not like using opera mobile because a stock browser is missing hardware acceleration. If its not there its not there.
All Tablets, higher iOS/WP/Android devices, high end Pmps (galaxy player/ITouch) have it. Most mid range phones are now shipping with vga front cams. Not putting it there is denying your users a whole means of communicating and making your phones less useful to business users who need stuff like WebEx.
However go ahead and downplay it.
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Beside video calling it is also great if you want to take pictures with yourself in the picture because you can actually see on the screen what you are shooting.
Anyway, right now I think it is not so important because there is no skype app available, but if Skype gets integrated like Facebook the FFC could really become a deal breaker on the Nokia 800.

In my own case, I would find FFC to be really useful. I may be in the minority, but I was using video-calling over 3g with my old Touch Diamond2. In addition to using it with a mobile, I quite often use Skype to stay in touch with family, both extended family and my own family when I'm working away.
I recently had to travel for work, and due to corporate software policy, was unable to have Skype on my work laptop. This mean I carried an additional (old and bulky) laptop with me on my travels. I personally would have found it so much more convenient to simply be able to make the call on my mobile.
I simply assumed that with MS purchasing Skype, and Nokia buying into WP7, there'd be no question of FFC missing from the latest batch of phones. I was about to go with Nokia for past history of good quality hardware, good cameras etc. And then I found out that the memory would still be limited (I didn't realise how much of the 8Gb on my current Omnia 7 is reserved for the OS/apps, etc) *and* FFC was missing.
Now, in the grand scheme of things, these might not matter to the majority of users. But I miss having my favourite albums on tap, and the ability to video call on those occasions I wish to do so. And sadly, I've not ordered the new Nokia phones and have decided to hang on to the Omnia 7 until next year, when Nokia are due to release more handsets.
Slightly off topic - but regarding the memory, I used to have a 2Gb SD card in my TD2. This was more than enough for me to carry around my albums, but now I have less albums on an 8Gb Omnia 7! (Mind you, I have far more photos due to the ease of use of taking pictures ) I don't fully understand why MS decided to control the use of expandable memory in such a way. I can see why, but in my mind, I keep asking why people aren't allowed to add memory to suit their own needs.
Nonetheless, apart from the two issues mentioned above, I'm really happy with my phone, quite often demonstrating it to my iPhone/Android-toting work buddies. I'd just really like to be able to tell them one day that it also has Flash player support, expandable memory and video calling built in

Long time iOS User Switch Experience

Coming from a iPhone 4S, Android will definitely take some time getting used. I come from highly technical background so the adjustment will come pretty easy.
First impression. I love it. Love the screen real estate, love the customization options. I used to be a big iPhone/iOS advocate, and I still believe it's a great platform (but must be jailbroken). But I couldn't stand all the patent trolling and anti-competitive nature of Apple any more so I jumped ship. So all my friends around me make fun of me for defecting. The first day I had my GN2, I had an iPhone5 owner come up to me and say "Can your phone do this." And each time he asked me, mine did it a little better than his. For instance, we compared video quality. Retina is nice and all, but watching the same Youtube clip I noticed the colors were definitely more vivid on the GN2 compared to his 5. Secondly, he was like "Well I have Siri." And I told him I had S-Voice. I showed him how S-voice allows for hotword detection so I do not have to press another button ask S-voice another question. Whereas Siri, you need to press the mic button again to ask it question. Lastly, he asked "do you have an app like find my iPhone". I showed him what AndroidLost could do. I've known people to lose their iphones and find my iphone does very little to help recover the phone. All my friend could do is see that the person was in some apartment building. What good is that? Now with androidlost I could take a pictures of the thief, record sounds, do so much more. Basically each time he came over to my office and asked me, can your phone do this, I always one uped him and he walked back to his desk disappointed. Felt great. I felt justified. lol.
And lastly, one of the biggest knocks on the GN2 is it's size and how one handed operation is difficult to impossible. But after owning the GN2 for the past couple days I realized, that I don't one hand operate my mobile devices that often. The only time I noticed the enormity of the phone was while driving. I mean if I had been one hand operating my iPhone all these years, I should notice it more often on the GN2. But it turns out the only time I noticed was while driving. To me that only tells me I two hand operated my iPhone the majority of the time except for while driving. And technically we shouldn't really be operating our mobile devices while driving anways. So I just don't bother to operate my phone while driving. Unless it's to answer a call or hang up. So the size of this phone is saving lives . One of my friends said, well one handed operations is crucial to him so that's why I went with the iPhone5. But I question how crucial it really is. I bet if he picked up a GN2, he wouldn't notice much of a difference as one handed operation rarely occurs (just my opinion).

Welcome to the family. For one-handed operation try using a FlyGrip with your new toy. That Makes it so much easier.
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I am in the same position you are in. Switched from iPhone 5 to GN2, because that phone surely grabbed my attention. Right off the bat it was very confusing indeed, being new to the android platform.
Losing facetime and iMessage really did bother me, since it made it way easy for me to communicate with friends and family or video or text when I have no cellular signal. Skype is a great replacement, but many of my friends and family members don't have it unless I specifically tell them to do so. I really hope they bring
I love the huge screen of GN2 and I really think that's the reason I like it better than my iPhone 5, but as far as image quality and color accuracy. I'm 100% sure image details are sharper on the iPhone 5 as well as colors are more accurate. The GN2 screen is a bit saturate, which would make it more vivid I guess.
As far as integration and ecosystem, the iPhone 5 fit really well with my Macbook Air I own and the flow of information from one to the other is promoted and seamless. The GN2 connects to my PC desktop and macbook air basically the same way... through google and that's fine too.
GN2 gives me a lot more information at a glance with widgets, which I definitely love more than iOS. Even if you jailbreak iOS you can't really get the same homescreen layouts you could have with the GN2.
As far as apps go, I noticed immediately that the iPhone apps are more polished and smoother than on the android fence. I noticed scroll lagging and game lags on android apps that the same apps on iOS doesn't show. It's probably because developers didn't make the ports to well.
I still don't know the limits to what the GN2 phone can do. Rooting will definitely open a whole new door that as of right now, I'm too afraid to open.
One thing is for sure, I can't tell you which phone is better than the other. As for now, I will continue to use the GN2, because its the "new" thing and new things excite me.
Hello Google Maps and goodbye Apple Maps!

doctorandrew said:
I am in the same position you are in. Switched from iPhone 5 to GN2, because that phone surely grabbed my attention. Right off the bat it was very confusing indeed, being new to the android platform.
Losing facetime and iMessage really did bother me, since it made it way easy for me to communicate with friends and family or video or text when I have no cellular signal. Skype is a great replacement, but many of my friends and family members don't have it unless I specifically tell them to do so. I really hope they bring
I love the huge screen of GN2 and I really think that's the reason I like it better than my iPhone 5, but as far as image quality and color accuracy. I'm 100% sure image details are sharper on the iPhone 5 as well as colors are more accurate. The GN2 screen is a bit saturate, which would make it more vivid I guess.
As far as integration and ecosystem, the iPhone 5 fit really well with my Macbook Air I own and the flow of information from one to the other is promoted and seamless. The GN2 connects to my PC desktop and macbook air basically the same way... through google and that's fine too.
GN2 gives me a lot more information at a glance with widgets, which I definitely love more than iOS. Even if you jailbreak iOS you can't really get the same homescreen layouts you could have with the GN2.
As far as apps go, I noticed immediately that the iPhone apps are more polished and smoother than on the android fence. I noticed scroll lagging and game lags on android apps that the same apps on iOS doesn't show. It's probably because developers didn't make the ports to well.
I still don't know the limits to what the GN2 phone can do. Rooting will definitely open a whole new door that as of right now, I'm too afraid to open.
One thing is for sure, I can't tell you which phone is better than the other. As for now, I will continue to use the GN2, because its the "new" thing and new things excite me.
Hello Google Maps and goodbye Apple Maps!
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Losing facetime didn't bother me at all as I never used it. Also I do have an iPad so I am not completely off the Apple ecosystem. Losing iMessage did bother me a little bit. It would be nice to have delivery and read receipts. Besides that I am on an unlimited text plan, so really iMessage really was no benefit to me. Most of my friends are all about privacy and only a handful enabled read receipts, which is actually far more useful than delivery receipts anyway. So I am not really missing much.
Color accuracy. I have many friends that are in the Graphic Design field and have stressed the importance of color reproduction. So much so that a friend got me convinced that I absolutely must get an IPS or PVA panel for my computer instead of a TN. And I listened to him. I'm glad I did, but only because I like the view angles of IPS over TN. The color reproduction I really didn't care about as much. At first I didn't even know what he meant by it, but the way a friend described it was, does the color on the screen match what you see in real life. I guess that's important to people in that field, but to me a slight deviation doesn't matter to me. Just like the CNET article that Jrockttu referenced. Some may prefer the over-saturation of the standard mode and others may will like the more accurate colors of movie mode. But at least with Sammy, you have the choice.
The apple ecosystem was definitely nice. Airplay was nice. However I won't miss itunes one bit.
Apps. I had all these wonderful apps downloaded to iphone and ipads. All great. But I realized about 99% of the time I used my iPhone for a select number of functions. And almost all of it, android had as well. And did it as well as iOS and if not better than iOS. There are only 2 things so far that I miss from the Apple App store. One of them being Logmein. I actually bought Ignition when it was on sale for the iPhone. They now have a free version, which Android lacks. And I don't want to spend 29.99 for another copy of Logmein ignition on Android. I know android advocates will say Logmein is stupid, just use something else like VNC. But I absolute must have Logmein. It's convenient and I have many computers setup on it. Especially friends and family that require tech support from me from time to time. The other thing I miss is a good Streamtome or AirVideo replacement. Emit just doesn't cut it. I have yet to fool around with Plex, but I guess that may be a good alternative. But I liked the simplicity of Streamtome and all the features.
With all that said. I have no regrets making the switch and couldn't be happier. Infinitely expandable memory via microsd card support, the ability to carry multiple batteries if need be, screen size, no longer tied to itunes, no more need for converting videos, greater customization, no proprietary overprice lightning connector, and a bunch of other stuff I can't think of right now, definitely outweighs what I loss from iOS. And I do have my ipad if I really need it. But I don't see myself going back to iOS any time soon.

Glad to see you make the transition. I've converted a few iPhone users myself and once they got used to Android, they love it and thank me all the time for getting them off of the Apple bandwagon.
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The Note 2 is my first android smartphone (came from iPhone 4/4S).
As for a facetime replacement, before I jailbroke my devices I would use Tango for video calls over 3G. Tango works well on android too and seems to have better quality video than Skype. Give it a try.
Also, I absolutely despise S-Voice. It is slow, clunky, and the voice sounds like Siri with a cold. But that's OK since we have Google Now! I downloaded an app called Home2 Shortcut, and now when I double tap the home button it launches Google Now's voice search.

UCLAKoolman said:
The Note 2 is my first android smartphone (came from iPhone 4/4S).
As for a facetime replacement, before I jailbroke my devices I would use Tango for video calls over 3G. Tango works well on android too and seems to have better quality video than Skype. Give it a try.
Also, I absolutely despise S-Voice. It is slow, clunky, and the voice sounds like Siri with a cold. But that's OK since we have Google Now! I downloaded an app called Home2 Shortcut, and now when I double tap the home button it launches Google Now's voice search.
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Long press menu for Google Now, or there is a button in the task switcher with long press home. I disabled the double tap home within S Voice. Probably the first and last time I will open S Voice, but now the home button doesn't delay as it waits to see if you are going to double press.
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Welcome to android! I am also a iphone convert...though this is my third android phone. Never looked back
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iPhone 4 -> Note 1 -> Note 2
Its not even really fair to compare them to a non-jailbroken iPhone. You can do so much on android without rooting etc compared to what you can do to an iPhone stock. The Note 2 is an easy winner everywhere. Battery life kills any iphone I used....just got 2 days on a single charge with 3.5 hours on screen time.
The big thing missed from iPhone days is Lockinfo. Yes there are sort of comparable things as far as getting the data I liked on the lockscreen in android but I loved the simplicity and layout of Lockinfo. Android smokes iPhone though on the lockscreen notification area. With Elixir 2 I can get all kinds of stuff on there....without root, custom rom jailbreaking etc.
One small thing is also location spoofer so I can trick the NBA package that I am in London so I can watch/torture myself watching Golden State Warrior games due to local blackout rules. It would be great to watch the games on my larger screen Note 2 but oh well I can deal.
BiteSMS was also solid...but they make chomp for android which is close but to me not as smooth on the lockscreen side. Most of the times it pops up but sometimes it doesnt.
Group messaging is good on iPhone but its not something that happens to me more than twice a month so pfffft.

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iPhone 4 -> Note 1 -> Note 2
Its not even really fair to compare them to a non-jailbroken iPhone. You can do so much on android without rooting etc compared to what you can do to an iPhone stock. The Note 2 is an easy winner everywhere. Battery life kills any iphone I used....just got 2 days on a single charge with 3.5 hours on screen time.
The big thing missed from iPhone days is Lockinfo. Yes there are sort of comparable things as far as getting the data I liked on the lockscreen in android but I loved the simplicity and layout of Lockinfo. Android smokes iPhone though on the lockscreen notification area. With Elixir 2 I can get all kinds of stuff on there....without root, custom rom jailbreaking etc.
One small thing is also location spoofer so I can trick the NBA package that I am in London so I can watch/torture myself watching Golden State Warrior games due to local blackout rules. It would be great to watch the games on my larger screen Note 2 but oh well I can deal.
BiteSMS was also solid...but they make chomp for android which is close but to me not as smooth on the lockscreen side. Most of the times it pops up but sometimes it doesnt.
Group messaging is good on iPhone but its not something that happens to me more than twice a month so pfffft.
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GoSMS isa kickass sms app that has more customization than you can imagine and some KILLER themes to boot. Check it out of you get a chance, it's free and fast with lots of eye candy.
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quarlow said:
Long press menu for Google Now, or there is a button in the task switcher with long press home. I disabled the double tap home within S Voice. Probably the first and last time I will open S Voice, but now the home button doesn't delay as it waits to see if you are going to double press.
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Yes I know these shortcuts however those require an additional step to make the app listen to your command. With my setup I double tap the home button and Google search is listening immediately.

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Long press menu for Google Now, or there is a button in the task switcher with long press home. I disabled the double tap home within S Voice. Probably the first and last time I will open S Voice, but now the home button doesn't delay as it waits to see if you are going to double press.
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Thanks for the tip, I be waiting for that.
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In short, our Note 2 can do anything and everything iCraps can, but only better, more of it, and at a fraction of the price with ten times the support community. Crapple is coasting, Samsung innovates.

I'm in the same position. My first smart phone was the 3g then moved to the 4. It was awesome but it was all I knew. With every new update I was chasing jailbreaks and it was fun. But just like what was stated I got sick of the bs lawsuits and being locked down and that giant pos itunes wanting to constantly wipe all my data. I finally made the jump and wonder what the hell took me so long. I'm so used to having to chase the jailbreak my first instinct with this was to root. So after 2 days, a ton of reading, and scared I was going to brick my new baby I did it and I will never look back. Never liked crapple but the hw was good and I was comfortable with the whole jailbreak process but am extremely happy I took the dive and glad to be here.
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One thing I miss from iphone is the spell checker and underlining of misspelled words with predictions in no matter what you were in. Not a fan of the predictions over the keyboard.
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Bodoct said:
One thing I miss from iphone is the spell checker and underlining of misspelled words with predictions in no matter what you were in. Not a fan of the predictions over the keyboard.
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Check this one out on the Play Store...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.comet.android.TypeSmart&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jb21ldC5hbmRyb2lkLlR5cGVTbWFydCJd
I'm downloading it now to see how it works...hopefully it will do as good as the reviews say...
I'm still learning this phone...and I had been using a 4s for a few months...and can honestly say this phone blows it and the I phone 5 out of the water. I have several friends and co-workers that have the 5 and have used them a-lot There really is no comparison for any of them.Sure some apps are more polished...they have to be..but...I have found most of my replacement apps to be fully functional..Everything on this phone works perfectly...and with Google Now...well...that just is another nail in the coffin for IOS if they don't do an about face and start really changing it for the better...funny thing...many apple fans don't want to...
I really get a kick out of watching peoples face when they see what this phone can do...If your really want to impress someone..down load a full 1080P movie to it and play it back for them...I-phone fanatics will do 1 of 3 things...get PO'd...either ***** or complain it's too big...or show their impressed by their jaws dropping and then say nothing or very little...Those that are dissatisfied will ask a ton of questions and want to see more...
I got to say this phone amazes me every time I open it up to use it...and that is something no Apple phone could ever do..There is no WoW factor...and the egg heads at Cupertino don't get it...Sure...the I phones can do a lot...they are safe and secure...and they generally work as promised...but Android just snuck up on them and bit them in the buttocks real hard and passed them by...
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I have one question too. I'm stuck with my iPhone 4S for now but I'm desperately trying to switch to the Note II. My biggest (and perhaps even only) concern is the camera quality. Judging from this thread it seems that the camera (at least using stock conditions) is inferior to the 4S's. However, without a direct comparison it's hard to tell. Does anyone here have any direct comparison between the two cameras?

There isn't that much of a differene between them to worry over. Both do a good job and if you need more get a real dslr for serious picture taking.
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Mac11700 said:
There isn't that much of a differene between them to worry over. Both do a good job and if you need more get a real dslr for serious picture taking.
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Problem with dedicated camera is that I know I'd never have it with me when I need it! :silly:

What features are you going to miss, love or are concerned with when buying the Fold?

Without ever seeing the Fold in person and actually handling it I going to miss a few features based on the Specs I've read and videos I've watched. Here's my list.
Features I might miss:
1. Larger front facing screen...my caveat here is if the screen was larger it would probably be way too skinny anyway and would look really weird because of the dimensions..
2. Iris Scanner - love this feature on my N9. I know it's already gone on the S10's but it just works so well.
3. Update :MST for Samsung Pay is Probable for all phones. From what I've read, we're only getting NFC at least on AT&T but their website could be wrong since Samsung says it will have MST & AND NFC. That is always the beauty of Samsung Pay over various other Pay technologies. Worked just about everywhere for me.
4. MicroSD slot. OK, I might not use up the 512GB but do love the MicroSSD option which is great to easily move files and backups around., etc.
5. Waterproofing. I'm guessing that the Hinge is the problem and it would be difficult to waterproof the phone because of it.
6. The Fold would have been perfect if it had an S-Pen...with a selfie camera in the S-Pen (LOL!).
Features I'm not happy with (but I'll still live with):
1. That damn notch with a bezel on the big/inside screen. Almost made me bypass the pre-order. If that screen wasn't so large, I definitely would not have bought the phone. I swore I'd never buy a phone with a notch...Oh well.
2. (I know that this should probably be number one) The Crease! It remains to be seen but every video displays the crease in some manner. I find it funny that any article that I've read where Samsung has replied states that the crease is only seen in these **pre-production** models and the crease will not be seen on the final Fold versions. I'm not holding my breath on this one! So many reviewers stated that looking at the screen straight on and/or with a different wallpaper that the crease is barely visible or not visible at all. Now looking at the screen off to the side, the crease can be seen.
3. The batteries. They should have installed greater mAh capacity batteries. C'mon Samsung! You're using 2 separate batteries, give us more juice. You know we'll be on the 7.3" screen constantly!
4. I'm not really mad that they removed the headphone jack. I love options but 99% of the time I'm using BT headphones anyway.
5. The cameras. OK, we have LOTS of them! But for almost $2000.00 these cameras should have been even better than the S10/S10+'s cams. This Fold phone is Super Special and should have had a little bit more (can you say 10 X optical zoom? Might not have fit though).
6. I am still not fond of the Bixby functionality in comparison to Google Assistant. The Bixby routines are probably the best part of Bixby. I'll probably bypass Bixby.
7. Bixby button also being the fingerprint scanner. I'll lose my mind if I continually activate the Bixby button instead of unlocking my phone. That would make me crazy so I would use other software to disable Bixby altogether.
8. Many early articles on the Fold stated that Samsung would give us a free year of Samsung Premium Care+. I'm hoping that when I receive the Fold, I'll be surprised and find documentation to sign up for our free year. I'm probably dreaming...
9. They should have offered more for Trade-ins. Only up to $300.00 where it was $550.00 for the S10 possible trade-in values. (I'm kind of glad though since I may just need to keep my Note 9 around for awhile).
Unknowns:
1. It remains to be seen if the developers will build apps to work with continuity and sizing, etc. If that isn't done then we might own a $2000.00 boring paperweight. I need my Kustom suite of Apps and if they don't work, the Fold will be almost useless to me).
2. Will the Fold just be too long to easily fit in my pocket. I never put any phones in a back pocket but occasionally put in front pocket. Most of the time it's in a zippered pocket in a jacket or purse or backpack or small waist pack. I'm really not too worried..yet! Hahaha!
3. We definitely need a variety of cases. I'm sure they'll come. The interest in the Fold has seemingly surpassed Samsung's expectations. Samsung kept the final Fold design under wraps so long that I think that's one of the reasons the case makers haven't delivered yet (or they thought that the Fold wouldn't have much interest). I need a super protective Clear Case. I want to show off that Martian green with Gold Hinge!! (and I want to look at it too).
Final observations:
With all of the unknowns and possible negatives, don't get me wrong. I want the Fold!
I love being an early adopter and have saved up for this thing. I've been following Samsung over the years and drooling at all of their foldable prototypes.
With Samsung's track record on gorgeous displays, I know I'll love the tablet screen. I think that the small front screen is not a deal breaker because I liken it to my Lock/AOD screen where I glance at information then move on to the larger screen. It will be just one more step to fully open the Fold. Not inconvenient when you know what's coming! A huge, beautiful screen.
The COOL factor for the Fold is priceless! I am so anxious to get it and I know the feeling will continue as others spot the phone and want to check it out.
If the Fold ends up being a fantastic phone for me, then I'll be selling off a few other Tablets I have as well as my N9.
This is going to be Big! Cannot wait to play!
What do you guys think?

I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?

A.Priori said:
I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Based off of the limited amount of people that will buy and have this device probably not, but I could be wrong ?

I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode as it is on the larger Samsung tablets. That would be a killer app for me. I know we can use up to 3 apps, but it's not the same as having a few windows layered and tapping between them, especially if you're copying and pasting between a few documents and you want that bigger layout on each to see text placement properly. Maybe someone will manage to extract and develop an apk that doesn't require root for that.
With regards to the above, I used to have a Toshiba PDA that ran Windows Mobile and with it's 800x600 display you could change the screen scaling and achieve a similar effect. It was pretty great.
The thing I'm mainly looking forward to is reducing my travel kit from a phone, tablet, and kindle to just one device. Ok maybe not just one device, I'll have room for my Switch more often now. Airport security love giving my bags an extra search due to all of the gadgets I end up carrying, and hopefully this will mean I just sail through like most other people.
And while it may be an elitist prick move, I want people to notice it. Most friends and colleagues know I'm a tech geek, but nobody notices the tech anymore, as all of the phones and tablets look so similar. They don't realise it's something new or cool and don't ask. Plus, nowadays all it involves is showing off something a bit faster with more storage and a better camera. Nothing has done anything new for years now. This brings back that wow factor when new phones had something brand new and sparks conversation about the future again.

The US devices will have locked bootloaders just like the other US Samsung devices. Unless I've missed it there is no word on international devices yet. If you're like me and root is a necessity you might want to consider waiting until the situation is sorted out.
Edit... One other thing I ran into today in regards to a potential S-pen is that a reviewer was opining the screen was too soft to support writing. That was a stated opinion not a fact from Samsung. So a guess but not an unreasonable one; It isn't hard to imagine the screen not being able to hold up to a pen.

Here’s an important notice for current and future Galaxy Fold owners
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/04/1...portant-notice/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
SAMSUNG GALAXY FOLD ??????

Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that

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Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that
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The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Doubtful on AT&T or T-MO devices... You know it's always that locked bootloader thing in US phones.
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AlanJC said:
I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode
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Looks like we'll still be able to create a gif from a video (you could still have done it on the S9's too). Here's a tutorial for the S10's so I'm sure the Fold will be able to make one too:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...or-S10e-without-downloading-any-apps_id115228
Also, it is Dex ready/capable.
Great points you've made in your response! Thx!
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The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/

Bjray said:
It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/
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This would be great! I'm wondering if it's for Non US Folds. I'm hoping it's for everyone. I wish I had the eSim/nano sim option but not with my carrier (AT&T).
MST not listed in their specs but hopefully it's just incorrect. Thank you for the clarification.
https://www.att.com/buy/phones/samsung-galaxy-fold-512gb-space-silver.html
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good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.

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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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You're kidding, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkAVnl6RVw&list=PLLjWNJiWtHZV-rqGklsgrjoK1ssOJfvrE&index=6

I'm out of here. I'm a rooter and right now I'm now feeling the love with dropping 2k on this device and then killing the warranty. This isn't a complaint per se, it's just not the right tree to be sniffing around for those like me that will most def flog the thing. I do hope all who buy in enjoy the bejesus out of themselves. Good luck gents.

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good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.
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I was just reading AT&T version of the manual & no mention of MST, only NFC. THAT would be stupid to me & I'd really miss it.
http://downloadcenter.samsung....d_EN_UM_P_9.0_040919_FINAL.pdf
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Samsung Note 10 ....Giving Up....or.....?

Before I get started I have ordered my Note 10 5G in Aura Glow, and I'm happy with the design changes.
Ok so we all know or perhaps knew the Note line as being the one Samsung would test or perhaps throw in all the goodies into.....as it is known as the "Power House Device" or "Power Users". This seems to have stopped though and it's now really The S line Refresh. Or slightly updated.
It's at this point I scratch my head and ponder why Samsung bother with Two Flagships and why not or note have 1.....they are after all reminesant of a fruit based company.
Their used to be a difference between the 2 devices more than just an S-Pen but perhaps and true the market was different then than it is now, however casing point that yes people are holding onto devices for longer, so yes Samsung needed to do more to entice people to part with the cash (I'm a tech addict I will buy whatever I feel I like) so yes I do like the Note 10+, but I will also on the other hand say that Samsung did not do enough.
I like to see companies push innovation and yes some innovation takes time. For me personally I would have been happy with just a few things on this Note....the Snapdragon 855+ ok ok it's just marginally overclocked and the 90hz Display....., Could this not have been easily done? I think so but Samsung are a big brand much like Apple....they can get away with it. Also Samsung makes money in the Semi Conductor industry so it's not like they have to go all chips in with their devices.
But I'm yes just a little disappointed in that Samsung are quite content to see the competition not overtake or be leaps and bounds better. However to see others just pushing the envelope as Samsung used to do.
Yes great things seem to be in the works for next year, much looking forward to it, I just think that the Note 10+ could have dropped all these ****ty Harry potter bull, the camera doodle rubbish and focus on what made the Note the Power Users Dream.
So onto why I ordered and like it, mainly from a design perspective, I like the camera layout much better, like the more squared off look, Display is very nice, Cameras are nice, I have never had many complaints. And for me it's ok for another run of the sensors.
The Things like Dex I was getting more drawn in and thinks it's gradually improving so much so that I think more will be inclined to use it now. Gamelink is another decent feature, UFS 3.0 we all knew Samsung would be too dog here...with the read/write Speeds.
I still have it as a fantastic device, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but guess it's people like me or if your like me, that perhaps slows down or encourages these companies Samsung/Apple to simply cash in. Less of them having to really try because Samsung are capable of better, Apple are to, yes the iPhone will be much of the same to (small updates) I just didn't want to see two very different companies look quite so much the same.
I'm sure many will pick apart my arguments & some will agree....I'm not looking for nodding dogs.
Just expressing myself in a relatively balanced way (maybe contradictory by buying, but I do like the Note 10+, just expected more).

Well let's get the fun started....

I have zero issues with their being two notes.
The Note 9 having two versions was a sign of the times and I think the idea that the higher tier sold well solidified the move to have two versions this year.
That said, I don't even pay the non plus any attention, it's not an upgrade for me coming from a 9. Frankly the Note 10 should be the Note 10e.
I get the idea though, the smaller note with the cheaper price tag (and likely to see larger price drops) will be used to lure in people that would've either moved away from the note because of the larger size and folks that think the Note is too much of a phone so stick with smaller form factors. You also have the small hand people but even then 6.3 isn't tiny. Add a case and both are that much bigger.
If this brings more people to the Note then I have no issue with having a lower tiered phone, we can equate this to apple all day and that's a low hanging fruit argument kind of like Samsung going after apple for the headphone jack.
We keep knocking them and saying they are copying apple every time we aren't happy with a decision but they aren't the first to seal in the battery, they aren't the first to remove the headphone jack. At the same time though, being explicitly different from Apple doesn't exactly mean sales will shoot up (the bottom line) so I think there is more nuance than pointing fingers and complaining they are becoming the thing they hate.

So we have choice and are still not happy?
People moaned about the Note being too big so they gave the choice of two.
Others moaned about the Note being too small so they gave us the choice of two.
I fail to grasp arguments why there should not be the choice of two variations?
It must be the most impossible profession in the world working in mobile devices R&D.
We want bigger, no smaller. We want thinner no bigger battery!
We want all screen with zero bezels, oh look it has a tiny camera spot in the middle!
In reality this new Note 10+ is a beast of a mobile! Mine is coming with 512GB and 12GB RAM on a mobile phone?! Superb screen. multiple cameras and the S-pen, ad infinitum.
I regret the day I sold my Note 9, and yes all the same moans where here about the note 9 too, and purchased the iphone XS max. The note series are incredible devices, if you doubt me try an iPhone for six months! That will give you cause for reflection and pause!

I wasn't complaining about the choices in the two variants, however more in Samsung sticking to a set-plan.
This plan is to sell us on marginal gains, slimmer bezels have been a huge marketing thing and we buy into it because it looks nice.
What I mean is Samsung used to innovate and the note line was the bleeding edge, however the S & N line are very much similar, I would have liked to have seen more differentiation
I'm far from saying it's not a device worth purchasing (I have like I said ordered my Note 10+ 5G).
It's still a well balanced device to which I will enjoy, but we as consumers need to be vocal, rather than saying yeah this will do.....

Duncan1982 said:
It's still a well balanced device to which I will enjoy, but we as consumers need to be vocal, rather than saying yeah this will do.....
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I don't want to be that guy but you should speak with your wallet.
If you see them going down a path that isn't beneficial to the consumer, stop purchasing their devices. We can complain all we want in our niche communities but if the sales are good what incentive is there to change.
I mean this goes from they can do better to, hol up guys, I still purchased it.
Having issues with them but still buying from them is about the same as saying "yeah this will do".
As far as the note line not being the bleeding edge, we have to consider what makes the most money for some Samsung. As long as we keep the context that the S series makes more money, it only makes sense that the lines would blur and more innovation would come to the S series. It's about keeping shareholders happy and not about maintaining the legacy of the Note.
It's a phone, when a year drops that isn't all that impressive or a really impressive phone does come out. That is where my money will go. I have as much loyalty to Sammy as they have to me.

pcriz said:
I don't want to be that guy but you should speak with your wallet.
If you see them going down a path that isn't beneficial to the consumer, stop purchasing their devices. We can complain all we want in our niche communities but if the sales are good what incentive is there to change.
I mean this goes from they can do better to, hol up guys, I still purchased it.
Having issues with them but still buying from them is about the same as saying "yeah this will do".
As far as the note line not being the bleeding edge, we have to consider what makes the most money for some Samsung. As long as we keep the context that the S series makes more money, it only makes sense that the lines would blur and more innovation would come to the S series. It's about keeping shareholders happy and not about maintaining the legacy of the Note.
It's a phone, when a year drops that isn't all that impressive or a really impressive phone does come out. That is where my money will go. I have as much loyalty to Sammy as they have to me.
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Oh I agree by still purchasing I'm just as much to blame.......

Duncan1982 said:
Oh I agree by still purchasing I'm just as much to blame.......
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We're in an abusive relationship with Samsung.

pcriz said:
We're in an abusive relationship with Samsung.
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Mwaaaaaaaahahaha yeah one way of putting it......

Name one other smartphone that offers the same level of technical innovation as the Note 10+ offers?
In the past when Samsung was still passing through their plastic phase with plastic backs, plastic stitching and plastic chrome I stopped purchasing Samsung. I went Sony and was very happy with that move. Come the Note 7 and I returned, twice!
I know we can all find something about all smartphones we don't like BUT this note 10+ is a stunning piece of micro engineering. 6 months ago I unwisely purchased an iPhone XSmax PLUS the iWatch 4. the watch is easily the most advanced on the market, the mobile is.....I simply don't have words! The iPhone alone cost 1,450€!!! The note 10+ is 1,230€ and they cannot compare. This Note 10+ is a pocket PC. I cant wait to get my hands on it.

I think one major issue is the line between best features and "bleeding edge" is starting to blur.
In order to really differentiate the Note series from the S Series, Sammy would basically have to gimp the S Series completely. In truth, the people who buy the Note, and the people who buy the S are two separate groups that are separated by more than just a 6-month upgrade cycle.
The S Series people are your base consumer level users who want a flagship Samsung device. They typically don't use it for productivity, but they still want and expect flagship features and quality.
The Note people love the S-Pen and typically use the phone for productivity, i.e. at work, and expect flagship level features and quality.
Yes the two phones are VERY similar, and will continue to be so. What else would you expect? Made by the same company, using same generation hardware, running the same software.
To say we should expect, or worse yet... DESERVE, a more premium device just because it's a Note, and the S Series people should get a gimped device is ridiculous and borders on entitlement.
The Note 10+ is a ultra premium flagship device. Some companies may have 90hz screen refresh, or maybe high MPs on the camera. But those are generally one trick ponies. Samsung gives the best total package money can buy, and for MY money there's no better value out there.
It's not that the S and the Note need to be different or higher or lower quality. They are just packaged differently for two specific user groups. And it's been this way for a while. The S Series is the bigger leap forward, then the Note perfects and marginally updates it. Rinse and repeat. Along with all the annual complaining that they aren't different enough.

pcriz said:
I don't want to be that guy but you should speak with your wallet.
If you see them going down a path that isn't beneficial to the consumer, stop purchasing their devices. We can complain all we want in our niche communities but if the sales are good what incentive is there to change.
I mean this goes from they can do better to, hol up guys, I still purchased it.
Having issues with them but still buying from them is about the same as saying "yeah this will do".
As far as the note line not being the bleeding edge, we have to consider what makes the most money for some Samsung. As long as we keep the context that the S series makes more money, it only makes sense that the lines would blur and more innovation would come to the S series. It's about keeping shareholders happy and not about maintaining the legacy of the Note.
It's a phone, when a year drops that isn't all that impressive or a really impressive phone does come out. That is where my money will go. I have as much loyalty to Sammy as they have to me.
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I think the issue is nothing is going to be that impressive anymore. We have reached a point where nothing really stands out anymore especially to me. With that being said I am still buying almost every new phone including the note 10 plus so maybe it will impress?

My hunch is that 90Hz refresh may mess with the technology in the digitiser for the pen. As Samsung make the screen for the one plus 7 pro, I can’t see them not including it unless there is a reason like that. The pop up camera in the one plus is a really smart innovation though and is so quick that face authentication feels no slower than an iPhone. This means no interference with cutouts in the screen too. Mind you only apple really has a secure face authentication despite the s10 5g having a front facing depth sensor. Samsung also has very high pixel count camera sensors for mobile use that were ready to go but didn’t use them.
So it feels like the note 10 is a mix of cutting edge and good but not great other aspects. It’s not surprising that it has many people divided!!

Great Phone it is

I kind of disagree with you about the productivity and pen thing. I've been a note buyer since the note 2 and honestly I've barely ever used the spen.
For me it's always been about top of the top when it comes to specs and typically largest display size on the market

The note 10 (not the 10+) is a very bad joke.
Worse display, no sd card and smaller battery than note9. No led notification, no 3.5 jack.
In conclusion worse than note9.
I doubt anyone with common sense would toss that amount of money to buy at this starting price.

The top flagship mobiles from Samsung vary in features and size exactly like a car. Ford Focus. The focus range come in estate, two door sport, four door sedan and coupe etc. Very different cars all built on the same chassis etc but aimed at different segments of the population.
I have never understood why one would buy the Note line and not use the pen? Its what the Note is focused on and built around around !!!
Stop the comparisons and enjoy the choice. Buy what you need.

Like I said I purchased the Note 10+ 5G.....:good: wasn't meant as a complaint as it's a fantastic device with very little to complain about.
It's just that with such a device perhaps some of us just expected a little bit more than what was presented.
However I have been using since Friday & everything is just dandy, very much appreciate the new design, that for me was one reason to buy, but also like mentioned the S-Pen and it's industry leading, nothing comes close to it's functionality and usefulness.
Hope you are all enjoying .....

Hitman3984 said:
I kind of disagree with you about the productivity and pen thing. I've been a note buyer since the note 2 and honestly I've barely ever used the spen.
For me it's always been about top of the top when it comes to specs and typically largest display size on the market
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Which is why is said Note users "typically" use the phone for work and productivity.
The opposite is also true about the S series. They are TYPICALLY used used by just typical consumers, but are sometimes used for work and productivity.
Panasonic toughbook laptops are TYPICALLY used in law enforcement, fire departments, and other industrial settings, but that doesn't mean some there are SOME consumer level users.
I didn't mean to mischaracterise you or your usage, nor did I intend to make you feel left out. But as a matter of practicality, I can not 100% covert ever single user's individual use case scenario, I can merely comment on what I generally see in each segment of the consumer base. There will always be overlap.
So you're not left out...you're special.
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This brings me back to my original point though. Forget productivity, if you just use the Note series for top tier specs, then what exactly do you expect them to do with the S series? There's a 6 month difference between the Note and S series release. We are a point in time when even YEARLY updates are merely incremental. There's no large leaps forward.
So again, we would have to ask Samsung to purposely gimp the S Series and alienate at least half (if not more) of their user base to make us happy so we have the best and toppest of top tier.
I mean they gimped the Note 10 so the Plus would be better and Note fans are mad about that. So what do you expect the S Series fans to say or feel when Sammy does that to them?

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Which is why is said Note users "typically" use the phone for work and productivity.
The opposite is also true about the S series. They are TYPICALLY used used by just typical consumers, but are sometimes used for work and productivity.
Panasonic toughbook laptops are TYPICALLY used in law enforcement, fire departments, and other industrial settings, but that doesn't mean some there are SOME consumer level users.
I didn't mean to mischaracterise you or your usage, nor did I intend to make you feel left out. But as a matter of practicality, I can not 100% covert ever single user's individual use case scenario, I can merely comment on what I generally see in each segment of the consumer base. There will always be overlap.
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I wouldn't even say typically without some kind of numbers.
Given the community I've observed from the note 2 on, maybe it started that way when it was more of a niche phone but after iPhone started making larger phones and it become more mainstream, more consumers started purchasing it. More casual users typical of the larger market
Samsung has enterprise device support for business and they push out last year's model of the basic S device.
Most of the Reddit users I come across don't seem like business users. I mean some are sprinkled here and there, but I wouldn't say the trend is towards professionals..
Im working for a company that builds drones and space shuttles and your options for work phones that the company will pay for and allow on our Network are the S8 and some iphone.
The tough book example doesn't really work because that isn't really a big consumer device at all. You're paying for a rugged platform that is a LOT more than its consumer counterpart minus the military spec'd ruggedness. Samsung wants everyone to have this phone.
This reminds me of the people that would state that Nexus devices were for devs, but it was only people in the forum, Google never advertised that way because it's a great way to scare away sales..

Accessories Struggling to make the switch to my P6P due to lack of stylus.

Hi all!
I'm very new here although I used to frequent XDA many years ago when I was all about that root/custom ROM life on my older devices.
I've been using a Galaxy Note 9 for the last 3 years and it has served my very well, mainly due to the stylus. Whilst the addition of a stylus doesn't appeal to most (I think), it is an accessory that is something I use every day and kinda have to.
I have a condition (localised in my hands) called hyperhidrosis. To summarise what this is: my hands sweat like nobody's business, no matter the weather/climate. And it's not just clammy either. My hands quite literally pour, lol.
Anyway, if any of you have ever had a splash of water on your device screen, you will understand how frustrating it can be when trying to type or browse or anything. Now imagine that, all day every day.
So the stylus was my saviour.
But now I have this brand new, shiny device that doesn't have one and, having used this thing for less than a month, I have had enough and ended up going back to my Note 9 until I can figure out a solution.
Does anyone know if Google or any third party company have released or will be releasing such an accessory?
I see a lot of users complaining about the in-screen FPR and there's me like "bro...", haha.
Anyway, thanks for reading this post. There isn't a cure or permanent fix for my hands so I'm stuck with them forever.
I'm now wondering if I should sell this handset and get a Note 20 or something, idk.

You can use generic stylus like this: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08LMWYWFM
It works on regular capacitive screens. It doesn't do cool things like the stylus Notes can do.

nxt said:
You can use generic stylus like this: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08LMWYWFM
It works on regular capacitive screens. It doesn't do cool things like the stylus Notes can do.
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I'll take a look; thank you!

Jacasta said:
I'm now wondering if I should sell this handset and get a Note 20 or something, idk.
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I think you already answered your own question.
Even if you are happy with 3rd party hardware and 3rd party software to go with it (highly unlikely given your story). you'll constantly be worried about keeping the stylus with the P6P and vice-versa.

Rumour has it that there won't be another Note, but that the next S22 series will have a model with Note features.
If you are dependent on a stylus then I would stick with a phone which has native support for one personally. Either an existing model Note or see if the S22 Ultra has an S pen as rumoured. Doesn't sound like the Pixel is the right phone for you unfortunately.

If you have a medical condition that makes a decent stylus with good functionality a life saver, you should either go for the last year Note model, or wait for the S22 Ultra that has (rumored) official stylus support/casing (prob January/February).
Google never cared for a stylus, so you will just have very basic functionality, that's not what you are looking for.
Pixel 6 is not for you.

I am in same boat as your are, A NOTE 9 user for 3 yrs, its getting hard to live without s pen. its not just stylus but give great amount of feature mostly use one is copy a simple text from anywhere, use it as camera remote and many other feature. and I am waiting for S22 Ultra as I am not that happy with P6P, no doubt P6P is great device.

How about this one ? . . . It got 4.8 stars !
Amazon.com

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How about this one ? . . . It got 4.8 stars !
Amazon.com
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Seems about as good as it gets!

There is no device on the market that compares to Samsung Note series
And I know exactly how you feel about the pen And I know when you think about switching the phone, you feel very hesitant. In short, it is a series of note. You can do things that no other phone can do like copying things that don't get copied
If you are thinking of switching you have to get used to not having a pen. Good luck

Thank you all for your input. Much appreciated!

Samsung and Apple have some particular copyrights which keep all other styluses from having some of the nicest features theirs do. It's unfortunate, and we'll miss having a stylus for the short period of time my wife and I had Note 10+'s, but it's worth it to me for how the l Android works on the Pixel versus Samsung, such as reliable notifications off my work emails and other things.

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