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Guys, I was all set to get a new 32gb Nexus 7....the reviews are great, and then I start reading about the issues.
After a bit more reading, I'm left wondering if its such a good idea? I read that Google released an update, then I also read that it didn't always fix things for people?
So the questions I guess are, Do you own one? Have you had a problem? Is it now fixed by the update? Maybe you've never had any problems?
Would you recommend getting one? I don't wanna spend out on something that I'll regret.
Thanks guys.
I've had mine since the first weekend of availability and it's lived up to all my expectations and then some, you're just buying the usual support vocal minority, sume have legit issue, noisy are just being nitpicky
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Thanks, this is what I'm trying to determine...if its just a few people shouting loud, or a big issue affecting a lot.
Thanks for your reply.
Mine worked 100% out of the box, no light bleed, no multi-touch issues, no GPS issues. Updates have installed perfectly. I am running stock deodexed + root + TWRP + Elemental X 1.1 Kernel. Couldn't be happier with my purchase. :good:
I know a lot of people have reported the GPS issues and the touch issues, but I've never experienced them myself. I bought mine the day it was released, 32gb model.
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Thanks, this is what I'm trying to determine...if its just a few people shouting loud, or a big issue affecting a lot.
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My suggestion is you buy from a place with a reasonable return policy.
We have no idea whether this is a 1%, 5%, 10% or more problem. Even if it were a 20% problem you would still have a huge number of people without issues, but from a product standpoint it would be very bad.
In my personal experience GPS is completely fixed on multiple units with the JSS15Q firmware.
Multi-touch is hit or miss, many units either got multi-touch fixed or saw no improvement. Some saw things get worse. You can see from the changelog history of the touchscreen firmware that they have been making various changes to address the issues, so the issues are real and acknowledged in some part.
Changelog for touchscreen firmware is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44954563#post44954563
As to the random reboots, IMO there are 2 issues, one is a hardware issue and the other is one or more software issues. The hardware issue is more rare, but if you have it, it will be difficult to avoid the reboots, unless Google/Asus can find a software workaround for the problem.
With respect to the software reboot issues, you can usually avoid them by avoiding a "trigger" app. Some folks usage just never triggers the problem. Some people trigger it when using chrome. For others it is some other app. Usually when you stop using the trigger app the software reboots go away.
You need to make the decision for yourself. There will be lots of people saying no problem and lots of people saying they got multiple units all with issues.
I bought the 32gb. Works flawlessly, I got it a week and half ago.
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GET ONE
I would say go for it, you are always going to have issues with most anything. Just buy from a retailer with a good return policy, I own the nexus 7 2012 and the nexus 7 2013 , no issues here, awesome devices.
Thanks guys. Sfhub, you make some good points....think I will buy from a large high street store, rather than online.
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sfhub said:
My suggestion is you buy from a place with a reasonable return policy.
We have no idea whether this is a 1%, 5%, 10% or more problem. Even if it were a 20% problem you would still have a huge number of people without issues, but from a product standpoint it would be very bad.
In my personal experience GPS is completely fixed on multiple units with the JSS15Q firmware.
Multi-touch is hit or miss, many units either got multi-touch fixed or saw no improvement. Some saw things get worse. You can see from the changelog history of the touchscreen firmware that they have been making various changes to address the issues, so the issues are real and acknowledged in some part.
Changelog for touchscreen firmware is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44954563#post44954563
As to the random reboots, IMO there are 2 issues, one is a hardware issue and the other is one or more software issues. The hardware issue is more rare, but if you have it, it will be difficult to avoid the reboots, unless Google/Asus can find a software workaround for the problem.
With respect to the software reboot issues, you can usually avoid them by avoiding a "trigger" app. Some folks usage just never triggers the problem. Some people trigger it when using chrome. For others it is some other app. Usually when you stop using the trigger app the software reboots go away.
You need to make the decision for yourself. There will be lots of people saying no problem and lots of people saying they got multiple units all with issues.
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i think mine is definitely, hardware, maybe , cuz of user error, ie, bad dirty flashing of zips, i dont' want to start all over fresh again, too many apps/settings to revert back (yes call me lazy sob)
most of the reboots happen when im clicking on an app with wifi on , but one of my last reboots, it just just rebooted out of the blue, i didn't even touch the tablet, but i seen it reboot!
Not sure, really, whether I have/had problems or not. Got mine over the weekend. During my initial playing, I did not notice any touch issues. The GPS would lock, but I didn't have time to take it anywhere for long enough to be sure if it would stay locked for a long period of time. Almost immediately (1 day) I got the JSS15Q OTA update. The GPS DOES seem to lock a bit faster, and I seem to be seeing more satellites than before -- it could be my imagination, though. Still no touch issues that I can see.
New Nexus 7 (then) past issues, (now), Cool TAB!
phab3k said:
I know a lot of people have reported the GPS issues and the touch issues, but I've never experienced them myself. I bought mine the day it was released, 32gb model.
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I HAD issues out of the box. Waited for the first update from Google, rebooted once after. Took forever to get the screen to respond to any kind of tap. Rebooted a couple of times and was able to get somewhat R E A S O N A B L E response out of the screen. GPS would work for all of 2 minutes and then shut down. No problems with Wi-Fi.
That was then, along came update: JSS15Q! All is happy in Nexus land. GPS is strong and works flawlessly even in the darkest center of my house! Screen is responsive my fingers are happy.
APPS? That is another matter, remember, even with a stock Nexus 7 fhd you are on the bleeding edge meaning that many apps found on Google Play may fail. Live with it until either the app is updated, ***** at the (no don't *****, contact the developer and kindly tell him/her your problem; or find another app that works for now.
Games? Heh, that is a real crapshoot. If it won't function, move on.
This is one hell of a tablet with excellent video, good sound, fast processing. Short of it not being the size of my 60" monitor (TV) I can read everything with these 78 year old eyes!
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Guys, just wanted to say thanks for all the posts. You help me make up my mind, and gave some sound advice.
I've took the plunge and brought the 32gb model (from a big high street retailer), and I have to say....what a cracking little tablet this thing is, I am really impressed with it. I have not had any issues with it, so I seem to be one of the lucky ones....either that or they have fixed the issues by the time we got them in the UK.
I do feel for all the people who had problems though, its a nightmare when these thing happen. Theres no doubt there has been or are some issues out there, one thing with a Nexus device I guess is it is patched fast if its sw...obviously hw is a different issue.
Looking forward to enjoying this device now, if I can get on it....have to wrestle it off the wife and kids first!
......thanks again guys.
Pete.
Just got my 32gb Nexus today in the UK. Only thing I have noticed is that tap and hold on screen is slow to react. Can take a couple of trys before it works. Sometimes taping an app is slow to open. Running stock and latest update. Only change made is to use Nova as the launcher.
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To Wugfresh Re: Toolkit
This is a followup to my 2 confusing Twitter's I made it worse by referencing Nexus 4 and 7 so I will stick to 7 (mostly). I now realize that lurking has its penalties since I need 9 posts after this before I can post this in the relevant thread (with a nostalgic tear for the days we welcomed all comers and left our doors unlocked).
I bought an N7 FHD (2nd gen) and rooted it after the 4.3 auto update soft bricked (right term of art?) it. I used the other toolkit to restore it to JDQ39 factory unrooted. Then it installed JSS15J. Today it tried to do an update and (presumably) it failed because of rooting. That build is no longer on the developer's website and has been replaced by JSS15Q. I would never presume to call myself a developer but my first modem was a 300 baud acoustic coupler and I have a 5 1/2" floppy disks older then most of you and it's actually floppy. ROFL.
Back to reality, on the Nexus 4, I could not discern how to upgrade to the latest Y build but I did manage to restore it to factory settings and Google handled the rest, You were kind enough to add JSS15J to your toolkit for the Nexus 4 but it is not available (in your drop-down) for the Nexus 7. I figured that if you made JSS15J available for the N7 I could restore the N7 to a factory fresh un-rooted one and Google could update it to JSS15Q. In the alternative you might guide me to how I could go from JSS15J to JSS15Q. I am certainly not in your league but this is not my first rodeo and I cannot tell you how grateful I am for your efforts. Your toolkit saved my Nexus 4 from the 2 week wait during which Google might have told me rooting voids the warranty or just have left me phone-less till they returned it.
Again thank you especially, and to all the others here who light candles in the darkness for each other and the rest of us pilgrims. A tip of my fedora to ya. Never forget one definition of a pioneer is someone with an arrow in their back.
Much of the time I am as confused as a baby in a topless bar who said, "What do you mean this is not a lunchroom, what else could it be?"
My suggestion is to keep root, grab the latest carbon ROM, the elemental 1.1 kernel and you should be all set. They already have the updates From G in them and they work superb.
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Do you own one?
Yes, from day one.
Have you had a problem?
Yes, GPS and the touchscreen grounding issue.
Is it now fixed by the update?
Yes, GPS seems fixed.
No, grounding issue may be worse. Works fins as long as I'm holding it. Placing it causes touches to become sporadic.
Maybe you've never had any problems?
I wish...
Would you recommend getting one?
Yes, it still a FANTASTIC device and many have no issues. If you do return it right away until you get one without issues.
I spoke too soon....at first I thought everything was ok....then I began to notice when I was typing that sometimes it would come out as gibberish. I thought nothing of it as we all make typos now and then, then I noticed that press and hold didn't always register (sometimes takes a few goes). I downloaded the multi-touch test from play and to my horror it's all over the place (compared it against my note 2), this is with the latest update. After reading around a bit more, I'm beginning to think these touch screen issues are hardware....and that it's more widespread than people think. Will be exchanging it for another one, hopefully fair better second time.
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madpete said:
Will be exchanging it for another one, hopefully fair better second time.
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Before you return, perhaps you could try this thread:
Take that multi-touch! Fix and lock in what works for YOU regardless of updates
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Before you return, perhaps you could try this thread:
Take that multi-touch! Fix and lock in what works for YOU regardless of updates
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Hey man, thanks for the reply.
I opted for the swap out because I don't want to loose the warranty, which I believe you would if you unlocked it?
I bought from PC World / Currys so the swap was no hassle.
Using the new one now, its testing better and typing and "hold and drag" is working much better (although hold and drag still isn't 100%, it's now acceptable to me).
I tested before and after the update, the observation I made is that the update seems to dull down the touch screen a little. It became slightly less responsive after the update than before, but hasn't really affected the usability on this one....although I think I prefered it pre update.
I have some thumb rule, never update to the newest firmware, and reed the comments. Also at home I have a router, that the manufacture update the firmware from time to time, but I used to run one firmware before the last one. It just an example, but since all the Lollipop, people complain, so why bother? Can't you wait for a while, till Google resolve all the issues? Do you consider Kitkat was perfect then? Or does Lollipop runs perfect on Nexus 6 & 9? I'm starting to think, it intentionally, like iOS 7 on iCrap 4, on iOS 6 it was fine, just think of it, maybe Google do it intentionally, to make us buy a new device? Or they just do a bad optimization job for older devices, and put all effort toward new devices? Any thoughts? I know we all nexus user, are a free beta testers, but if running latest firmware, means it brick out devices, it's hard to thrust Google like that, so I think it's better to stay on Kitkat till better times.
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The people who's tablets work fine (the vast majority I'd guess) don't complain. You only here from the people who have problems.
I've been on lollipop since the preview and it's been great. I'll be flashing 5.1.1 the second it's out. Kitkat is dead to me, and very ugly looking back. It certainly was not perfect.
If my device gets the brick people are talking about it would suck but I really, really doubt it has anything to do with the firmware. Some hardware failure most likely. No reason to stay on an old release.
5.0.2 was horrible. While I disregard majority of users complaining of battery life, some of them weren't spewing nonsense.
5.1 is an improvement. I'm one of the guys who do not post every complaint or dissatisfaction I encounter with the Nexus 7. I know what the problem is, I know where to ask for help to pinpoint the cause, now it's my turn to make a decision, stay on Lollipop? or revert to KitKat? Or remove the cause, in other words the app itself.
Back to the OP, there is no risk updating to 5.x. Your device won't magically break. If you like to play it safe, maybe it's better for you to wait for user feedback and ignore the OTA.
OTA you say...
All I hear ate 2 things "Memory leak" & "Bad battery life", be it Nexus 4, 5 or 7, all after the "Lollipop", ...mostly the "Memory leak thing, that told to be solved after each update
Is it safer to flash from ADB? or the "dead" devices dyed in both ways? be it ADB on clean device, after reset, or just OTA? I personally, never thrust OTA updates, I wish there was an easy way, to make a full backup, like a "Norton Ghost" for PC's, I know it can be done with ADB, the question is, if there's any difference, between flashing "with wipe" or without? or maybe the "dead" devices was : 1. rooted, 2. bootloader unlocked, 3. encrypted, or something else? I mean, Google do test all new FW on real devices? don't they?
I wouldn't take an ota myself. Not because of "the brick," I think thats a hardware problem, I feel it's a cleaner update with fastboot and if something fails I'll know what.
And you can (and should) make full nandroid backups in a custom recovery (cwm, twrp etc.).
But to the poster aboves comment it just goes to show you people are having different experiences. 5.0.2 was fantastic for me, great battery life, best it's ever been actually (still as good on 5.1 ~8 hours screen time over two days.)
The memory leak was/is a problem. Oh no I had to reboot once a week. Huge headache. On 5.1 I'm at 270 hours uptime and system ram's at 479. It is creeping up slooowly but better than 5.0.2
I guess it depends what you do with the tablet and especially what apps you have installed. I use my **** pretty heavily though so I don't know why I'v had no problems.
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OTA you say...
All I hear ate 2 things "Memory leak" & "Bad battery life", be it Nexus 4, 5 or 7, all after the "Lollipop", ...mostly the "Memory leak thing, that told to be solved after each update
Is it safer to flash from ADB? or the "dead" devices dyed in both ways? be it ADB on clean device, after reset, or just OTA? I personally, never thrust OTA updates, I wish there was an easy way, to make a full backup, like a "Norton Ghost" for PC's, I know it can be done with ADB, the question is, if there's any difference, between flashing "with wipe" or without? or maybe the "dead" devices was : 1. rooted, 2. bootloader unlocked, 3. encrypted, or something else? I mean, Google do test all new FW on real devices? don't they?
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Hard bricks have been reported from both OTA and ADB updates, but very seldom from users of custom ROMs... Most likely cause is eMMC failure due to faulty hardware, though the issue is present on nexus 4 and 5 as well... Possibly faulty bootloader software too.
^Bootloader faults could be possible.. that has pretty low level access. I don't know low enough to corrupt the chip. I don't know. Asus/google probably does but guaranteed you'll never hear a word from them.
I hope it's not something like the infamous s2 brickbug. Then you're just playing russian roulette. Maybe entropy can help lol.
What emmc chips are the 4 and 5 using? I'll have to look.
I'm not sure this is true but if you use Greenify I think the memory is kept in check better, although it requires root. I still see the occasional launcher redraw but not nearly as bad as it was in 5.0. I was on 5.0.2 for several weeks and wouldn't have updated if I hadn't read about the hardware failures.
Well if you don't update your tab, than you don't need a Nexus, buy some cheap chinese tabs for 70-100$, almost all of them are on kitkat, most of them vanila android, no updates, and they all work fine.
This is Nexus.It's a developers tab, for testig, trying, people who like the freshest system on their device, who like clean android....if something's not working, there's always an image of the old system or a bunch of ROMs to test and use...
I know, I myself for now test windows 10 on work PC, and a server 10 preview, but computers and tablets are different things, because you not have that much control for both. All I say, is, that I see same threads for any nexus device, I had a Galaxy nexus before, so I know. About s2, there was a rumor about some other Samsung devices back than.
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donisan969 said:
I know, I myself for now test windows 10 on work PC, and a server 10 preview, but computers and tablets are different things, because you not have that much control for both. All I say, is, that I see same threads for any nexus device, I had a Galaxy nexus before, so I know. About s2, there was a rumor about some other Samsung devices back than.
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Device OEM is irrelevant in that regard, the quality of internal components is really the crux of understanding hardware failure IMO. of the major android OEMs, all of them have in the past put forth devices that were predisposed to early hardware failure, mostly due to choices of components used during the manufacturing process. Hardware revisions on individual devices of the same model is also a valid form of comparison.
I've noticed recently (~3 times in last couple weeks), my Pixel XL will not start charging unless I re-boot, from 25%-35% charge. I've swapped chargers (Nexus 5X vs Pixel XL) and USB-C cables without success.
A simple reboot fixes the issue, but is a bit of a pain.
Pixel XL 128
7.1.1, Jan Update
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TWRP
Verizon SIM
Anyone else seeing this oddity? Any suggestions to correct??
Edit: 1/15 Replacement Device received, unlocked & rooted. The issue returns after just one day! Reboot needed to re-charge.
I have this same problem! I have had it since getting the pixel with root, custom kernel. Thought it was the kernel but the device swears it has nothing to do with it.
I haven't had TWRP very long but it happens still. It's random, and a reboot always fixes.
I wish I knew the cause, but too annoying to run full stock unrooted to test lol.
I've had this issue as well even with stock. Completely random. I've since flashed Pure Nexus since it's release and haven't had the issue anymore.
Happened again this morning. Gah, no overnight charge.
Chatting with Brian at Google.
He jumped to "Sending a Replacement Phone" after about 2 mins of very basic discussion. Seems odd, but whatever. Seemed a pretty quick surrender...
I did inquire if this was a known issue. He said, No, probably just a rare scenario.
I'll probably run stock for a while on the new phone to see if this recurs. Then I'll return to root and monitor.
markp99 said:
Chatting with Brian at Google.
He jumped to "Sending a Replacement Phone" after about 2 mins of very basic discussion. Seems odd, but whatever. Seemed a pretty quick surrender...
I did inquire if this was a known issue. He said, No, probably just a rare scenario.
I'll probably run stock for a while on the new phone to see if this recurs. Then I'll return to root and monitor.
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Interesting. I don't feel like getting it replaced, because I have a dbrand skin on it that would not transfer.
JagXK8 said:
I've had this issue as well even with stock. Completely random. I've since flashed Pure Nexus since it's release and haven't had the issue anymore.
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Hmm, how long have you been running on PureNexus? Sounds promising.
xocomaox said:
Interesting. I don't feel like getting it replaced, because I have a dbrand skin on it that would not transfer.
Hmm, how long have you been running on PureNexus? Sounds promising.
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Since 1/6. I've actually had 3 problems with my pixel. Randomly not charging, volume buttons not working and times call quality. But so far haven't had any issues after flashing pure nexus. I did chat with support but wasn't a quick surrender.
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JagXK8 said:
Since 1/6. I've actually had 3 problems with my pixel. Randomly not charging, volume buttons not working and times call quality. But so far haven't had any issues after flashing pure nexus. I did chat with support but wasn't a quick surrender.
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I am almost certain it is a software issue. I am going to flash Dirty Unicorns soon I think which will hopefully fix the problem.
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I am almost certain it is a software issue. I am going to flash Dirty Unicorns soon I think which will hopefully fix the problem.
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I am inclined to agree its a software issue, which is why I was surprised "Brian" offered a hardware replacement so quickly. I did very recently do a Factory Reset to address my "Double-Tap-To-Wake" issue (reset fixed it), so maybe this was his queue to not try yet another reset...
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I am inclined to agree its a software issue, which is why I was surprised "Brian" offered a hardware replacement so quickly. I did very recently do a Factory Reset to address my "Double-Tap-To-Wake" issue (reset fixed it), so maybe this was his queue to not try yet another reset...
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I think Google offering to replace units quickly isn't terribly surprising.
The cost for them to replace a unit is very low. They are probably shipping out a refurb, and are only paying for shipping costs. The unit that will be returned is surely fixable with ease and can be re-deployed to another user. This is a super low cost way of providing what appears to be excellent customer service to the end-user. Apple and other companies have done this for years and have been very successful.
EDIT: I am now on DU so I will let this thread know if I have any more charging issues.
Woke up this morning to charge my phone, didn't start charging. Rebooted to fix. Made a call and the call quality was like I was in a poor reception area. Oh well still happens at random. Think I'm ready for a replacement.
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Woke up this morning to charge my phone, didn't start charging. Rebooted to fix. Made a call and the call quality was like I was in a poor reception area. Oh well still happens at random. Think I'm ready for a replacement.
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Well it happened to me last night on DU. I think I might be able to use this as a free replacement card down the road to get a refreshed unit. It's crazy that without touching the phone I can reboot it and it will work.
My replacement devices arrived last night - Pixel XL, 128GB, Black.
They are probably shipping out a refurb...
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Especially with all the shipping delays, I fully expected this replacement would have been a refurb. By all appearances this replacement is new or at least a pristine refurb. Packaging and accessories were clearly new (that part is easy), but the phone's back, corners, edges and glass are all 100% flawless.
The phone appears to be playing well. Ran it on Daydream for 2:27 last night to watch a NextVR basketball game - no overheating, possibly sightly less drift than my old device.
Edit: My plan to hold-off rooting failed - I am unlocked & rooted, but kept the stock recovery vs TWRP (in anticipation of FlashFire).
Replacement Device received, unlocked & rooted. The issue returns after just one day! Reboot needed to re-charge. Blargh!
I should have used a little more discipline and not rooted right away - for science.
I am doubtful I'll revert to stock to test some more, but who knows.
Odd. Given that not everyone who is rooted has this issue perhaps sharing a list of mods/root apps and other apps that you installed on the new device could help to shed some light on where things to sour.
I seem to have had this issue ever since I rooted and installed ElementalX kernel. So it would appear that either I have a bad device, it's root, it's the elex kernel, or both root+kernel causes this.
I've modded emoji's but only once or twice, definitely had the issue on a fresh DU and PureNexus install with only root and kernel.
I am still questioning the charger, but not much because I also use the USB-a to USB-c cable connected to a cheap 1a chsrger at work with the same problem. So very unlikely it is the cable.
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I seem to have had this issue ever since I rooted and installed ElementalX kernel. So it would appear that either I have a bad device, it's root, it's the elex kernel, or both root+kernel causes this.
I've modded emoji's but only once or twice, definitely had the issue on a fresh DU and PureNexus install with only root and kernel.
I am still questioning the charger, but not much because I also use the USB-a to USB-c cable connected to a cheap 1a chsrger at work with the same problem. So very unlikely it is the cable.
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For me, still a most basic configuration:
- rooted (supersu 2.79-sr2)
- stock recovery
- stock kernel
- stock launcher
- no roms
At the moment, the only root-apps that possibly raise a flag as not fully stock. Nothing odd in this list as far as I can see:
- adaway (modified hosts file)
- titanium
- flashfire (not in use)
- rootchecker
- quickreboot
- tasker & autolocation
Next instance of no-charge, I'll try the brand new charger & cable from the replacement packaging.
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For me, still a most basic configuration:
- rooted (supersu 2.79-sr2)
- stock recovery
- stock kernel
- stock launcher
- no roms
At the moment, the only root-apps that possibly raise a flag as not fully stock. Nothing odd in this list as far as I can see:
- adaway (modified hosts file)
- titanium
- flashfire (not in use)
- rootchecker
- quickreboot
- tasker & autolocation
Next instance of no-charge, I'll try the brand new charger & cable from the replacement packaging.
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It's strange if it is root causing it, why has nobody else mentioned anything? I'm glad you get it on the stock kernel, so that rules that out.
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It's strange if it is root causing it, why has nobody else mentioned anything? I'm glad you get it on the stock kernel, so that rules that out.
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I'm not rooted and my bootloader is not unlocked and still have this issue from time to time. So pretty sure it has nothing to do with root. Trying to use some usb-c headphones once (they didn't work) did trigger it immediately. It's likely going to be related to the usb-c port in some way, possibly a firmware issue?
I also randomly encounter this problem. I already returned 1 pixel xl that quit charging, completely stock, a reboot did not fix it. On my second device and still occurs occasionally seems like it takes a week or so and a reboot fixes, so not sure what the problem is. Still completely stock.
What's up guys.
I'm facing occasional lags on my Pixel. Every now and then the launcher and UI overall become unresponsive. It happens with the stock rom and LineageOS. I think it could be caused by an app or something but I haven't had any luck finding the culprit.
I tried disabling Digital Wellbeing, and even though it seems to work at first the lag comes back time after.
How are your Pixels standing up? Do you have any lag on yours?
I have a Verizon Pixel XL with the bootloader unlocked, do you think unlocking the bootloader may cause this issue?
Hope to heard from you, my experienced comrades.
I suppose a fresh flash is needed. However, as you said you are on LOS, so you have already done a fresh installation. In that case I am not sure. Maybe something hardware breaking as the device is old or something? I certainly wish not.
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I suppose a fresh flash is needed. However, as you said you are on LOS, so you have already done a fresh installation. In that case I am not sure. Maybe something hardware breaking as the device is old or something? I certainly wish not.
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Hmm, this is my 2nd Pixel. I recently purchased 2 for some friends, I also had a 32gb version before, all of them have the same issue. I just happen to think is caused by Android P.
liriolebron said:
Hmm, this is my 2nd Pixel. I recently purchased 2 for some friends, I also had a 32gb version before, all of them have the same issue. I just happen to think is caused by Android P.
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I happen to have a stuck-for-few-seconds problem way back when the phone was new, on Nougat. It drove me crazy. Sold the first pixel for that reason alone and moved to the dark side. But then when I came back to another Marlin after couple of months I found that the problem was gone! Sometimes this type of problem happens on some specific Pixel devices I suppose, its not reported as it happens to a very few Pixels I guess! Either wait for an upcoming update to see whether it fixes stuffs, or maybe move to some other device. But I feel you, I remember quite well how that problem made me go total bonkers, probably you will find my threads on it as well. Good luck.
Just updated my Magic4 Pro to Android 13, Magic OS 7.1, Build number: 7.1.0.136 and I cannot switch between apps; the functionality is simply broken.
I've got a video demonstrating it on Twitter...would therefore suggest not upgrading until this is (and potentially other bugs) fixed.
UPDATE:
I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
Was it à regular updates from Honor ?
TotallydubbedHD said:
Just updated my Magic4 Pro to Android 13, Magic OS 7.1, Build number: 7.1.0.136 and I cannot switch between apps; the functionality is simply broken.
I've got a video demonstrating it on Twitter...would therefore suggest not upgrading until this is (and potentially other bugs) fixed.
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I suggest you to perform a hard reset. I don't meet this issue. It's very strange!!!
marcox92 said:
Was it à regular updates from Honor ?
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Yes it's a regular and official update.
Curious, didn't receive the update
nico97470 said:
I suggest you to perform a hard reset. I don't meet this issue. It's very strange!!!
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That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
marcox92 said:
Curious, didn't receive the update
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You should tape in the three points upper in right in the app Honor Club( system update). Trying versions.
TotallydubbedHD said:
That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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I'm going to perform a hard reset because of draining battery and others bugs. I was before a beta tester. This update, too soon!!! Honor should have waited!!! I'm angry !
nico97470 said:
I'm going to perform a hard reset because of draining battery and others bugs. I was before a beta tester. This update, too soon!!! Honor should have waited!!! I'm angry !
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Agreed.
Doing a reset will solve it, I have not done it and it works fine, I have been lucky.
TotallydubbedHD said:
That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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Unfortunately you might just have to do a backup and do it when it comes to android in general not just honor platform updates tend to break things and only way to fix those bugs is to reset simple as that you can complain left and right but that's just how it is happens on ios mac os and Windows as well
wolfaas12345 said:
Unfortunately you might just have to do a backup and do it when it comes to android in general not just honor platform updates tend to break things and only way to fix those bugs is to reset simple as that you can complain left and right but that's just how it is happens on ios mac os and Windows as well
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I used to flash ROMs and kernels weekly on my SGS1, but I can't ever recall one breaking basing navigation functionalities.
With that said, I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
It was very relieving to find this thread and make my phone usable again. It was horrible experience trying to use the phone without an ability to switch apps.
Ja5ka said:
It was very relieving to find this thread and make my phone usable again. It was horrible experience trying to use the phone without an ability to switch apps.
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Sorry to hear that but glad I could help!
TotallydubbedHD said:
I used to flash ROMs and kernels weekly on my SGS1, but I can't ever recall one breaking basing navigation functionalities.
With that said, I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
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"It didn't happen before so it can't happen now" great logic also that was super long time ago lmao back in SGS1 days we only had 1 navigation type so it either fully worked or didn't there were no variables these days we have 2-3 so obvs stuff can break plus don't forget with a clean install there are 0 variables that's why bugs, if they happen, are caught by honor or whoever makes the update with apps and custom settings thrown in there's thousands of variables that can make stuff go haywire
wolfaas12345 said:
"It didn't happen before so it can't happen now" great logic also that was super long time ago lmao back in SGS1 days we only had 1 navigation type so it either fully worked or didn't there were no variables these days we have 2-3 so obvs stuff can break plus don't forget with a clean install there are 0 variables that's why bugs, if they happen, are caught by honor or whoever makes the update with apps and custom settings thrown in there's thousands of variables that can make stuff go haywire
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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No its garbage logic in fact yes its been in dev for 13 years it has also been adding features for 13 years changin things for 13 years for same 13 years its also been supporting over 20k+ devices and working on them bugs are about normal with majority phones we dont see a lot cuz devs squash them before they push the update but variables that i mentioned prevent devs from covering all scenarios so shenanigans happen my problem was not with bug itself my problem is people like you talking crap because they refuse to wipe or expect flawless experience every time nothing is perfect especially software
TotallydubbedHD said:
Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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I think you are an expert. Do you think it is possible to install Google Services Framework on Magic5pro? I have one but dunno how to do so. Thank you for your sharing.