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If so, could you please let me know what version of Google Play Services it installs on the watch. Slow rollout means I can grab it yet...
See if you can update it from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.wearable.app
Not yet. Not sure what they've updated. The change log stated there seems the same as last time. BUT being hopeful they fixed a few bugs...
As you all know Google has rolled out android Oreo to the masses , including the pixel c . I've got the notification on may tablet but too afraid to click install since 7.1.2 working really well for me . My main concern is battery life , being burned with 7.0 before I rather weary of the new software update to 8.0 . I'm using my tablet primary to take notes on lectures so I need a solid battery life.
Can any of you give me an impression of performance and general usability of pixel c with android Oreo installed ? I am using stock pixel c without and root or modifications
Android O works like a charm on my Pixel C. The performance is good, generally no stuttering, lagging etc. Microsoft Word isn't working though, Google Docs saves the day. I use the tablet for notes in lectures too, and I easily get a day and a half of use.
Edit: I'm on stock Oreo, no root, no mods.
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Android O works like a charm on my Pixel C. The performance is good, generally no stuttering, lagging etc. Microsoft Word isn't working though, Google Docs saves the day. I use the tablet for notes in lectures too, and I easily get a day and a half of use.
Edit: I'm on stock Oreo, no root, no mods.
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It's nice to know . I'm using quid as my primary note taking app . The Oreo impression is generally best across all pixel devices except for people who wanted all of the new feature on their Nexus 5x. . . Anyways thanks for giving your input!
I guess I'll wait a couple of weeks before attempting to update . My exam is coming soon and I cannot accept change in my tablet yet.
P.s this forum is really quiet isn't it ?
Your welcome
I can imagine Android O isn't the best match with Nexus 5x. I had the 5x for a couple of months and all it did was throttle and stutter. My old Nexus 5 is way better on Nougat.
Yes, it's a little too quiet her here, hopefully it picks up.
OT: I tried to find Quid in Play Store, the only app I found was Quidd, a virtual sticker collector app in beta. Can't imagine it works well as a note app. Could you please guide me in the right direction?
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Your welcome
I can imagine Android O isn't the best match with Nexus 5x. I had the 5x for a couple of months and all it did was throttle and stutter. My old Nexus 5 is way better on Nougat.
Yes, it's a little too quiet her here, hopefully it picks up.
OT: I tried to find Quid in Play Store, the only app I found was Quidd, a virtual sticker collector app in beta. Can't imagine it works well as a note app. Could you please guide me in the right direction?
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sorry, stupid typo. i mean SQUID (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus)
Do you experience any lag on netflix app and youtube ?
did you do dirty upgrade ?
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sorry, stupid typo. i mean SQUID (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus)
Do you experience any lag on netflix app and youtube ?
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Thanks a lot! I'll give Squid a try, Do you use a pen?
I haven't actually used Netflix or Youtube, so I can't help you there. I enrolled in the beta program at dp4 and received an OTA of the public Oreo release about a week ago.
Only been on Oreo for a few days since installing and seems to be ok, no issues.
Doesn't "seem" to be a major update.
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Only been on Oreo for a few days since installing and seems to be ok, no issues.
Doesn't "seem" to be a major update.
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could you test whether pixel c with oreo support project treble ?
https://www.xda-developers.com/project-treble-android-oreo/
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Android O works like a charm on my Pixel C. The performance is good, generally no stuttering, lagging etc. Microsoft Word isn't working though, Google Docs saves the day. I use the tablet for notes in lectures too, and I easily get a day and a half of use.
Edit: I'm on stock Oreo, no root, no mods.
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Just received my OTA
it's downloading atm
What's the issue with Microsoft Word? Is it something that's gonna be fixed soon you think?
Edit: Oreo is up and running, and no issues with Microsoft Word.
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Just received my OTA
it's downloading atm
What's the issue with Microsoft Word? Is it something that's gonna be fixed soon you think?
Edit: Oreo is up and running, and no issues with Microsoft Word.
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Great news! Microsoft Word only produces a white screen on my device, same with Excel. Did you install Word before upgrading to Oreo?
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could you test whether pixel c with oreo support project treble ?
https://www.xda-developers.com/project-treble-android-oreo/
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Sorry, Pixel C doesn't support project treble.
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Great news! Microsoft Word only produces a white screen on my device, same with Excel. Did you install Word before upgrading to Oreo?
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I've had both Word and Excel installed before upgrading to Oreo.
both apps work fine for me under Oreo. Would cleaning cache for these apps fix your white screens?
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I've had both Word and Excel installed before upgrading to Oreo.
both apps work fine for me under Oreo. Would cleaning cache for these apps fix your white screens?
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Clearing cache only gives me force close when trying to start the app. Force close is better than a white screen though.
Installed my OTA update to Oreo from Nougat 7.1.2 today. No issues so far but haven't really done alot either and update went smoothly.
I did notice that this Oreo update also shows a Updating Firmware splash screen that I've never noticed in other updates. Did I just not see them or is this new? What was changed in the FW?
I installed the update....
and apart from a oddity, where the update screen seemed to get stuck in a loop looking for further updates (I had to shut the pixel c down, and start it back up, to fix this)..it's been a fantastic update so far, very smooth and far more fluid. Everything seems to be a bit snappier, and it seems to be loading webpages and youtube more efficiently, and quickly..
BUT!!...I wouldn't recommend you update immediately if you, can't afford for anything to go wrong, as i tend to find that something will be broken somewhere, that we're not yet aware of (like Picture in Picture crashing when you try to use it)....
Maybe wait until you've got all your important stuff, out of the way before you update...
Hope this helps?
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Great news! Microsoft Word only produces a white screen on my device, same with Excel. Did you install Word before upgrading to Oreo?
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Sorry, Pixel C doesn't support project treble.
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nah , it´s okay. To be expected really. :angel: after all next month pixel c will be 2 years old.
No, afaik project treble will be available only on phones launching with O.
About my experience, the update seems pretty nice so far. The performance is about the same. I never had lag or bad perf on this tablet honestly. The only problem I have had are two random reboots two days ago. The rest is fine.
As with all major revisions of android, it will take some time before all the apps are fully compatible with the Os and use the new APIs.
So I flashed in fastboot and run magisk. There is a weird situation when you reboot to go into recovery it says it is flashing firmware, I not seen that message before.
Magisk works, passes safetynet check.
I saw mention that Word crashes, well that is still true initially, when I open a document, it opens then then closes again, tried it 3 times then it stayed open, something about needing to download fonts? So it works eventually.
Battery status is weird, when plugged into power it is says is it NOT charging, when I pull USB cable out, it says it is charging. Small bug, but what you expect for version 0 of 8.
Chrome closes and reopened a few times, but then settled.
I rolled back from clean Oreo to Pure Nexus 7.1.2.
The main reason why is unbearable lags in Youtube app - when the active video is minimized and you want to browse Youtube it's just completely unusable. I think couple of times it stayed this way even without a background video.
Overall I was not happy with the performance so went back to Nougat and the difference is night/day.
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I rolled back from clean Oreo to Pure Nexus 7.1.2.
The main reason why is unbearable lags in Youtube app - when the active video is minimized and you want to browse Youtube it's just completely unusable. I think couple of times it stayed this way even without a background video.
Overall I was not happy with the performance so went back to Nougat and the difference is night/day.
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yeah i hope that is getting fixed asap. it's really bugging me but not enough to roll back cuz battery life and performance are great otherwise
[Request] ota.zip dp4 android o
if anyone still keeps the file android o OTA dp4 for pixel c? all links for DP are down
GrapheneOSThe private and secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility. Developed as a non-profit open source project.
website : https://grapheneos.org/
WebUSB-based Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/web
CMD Line Installation : https://grapheneos.org/install/cli
Releases : https://grapheneos.org/releases#raven-stable
This is listed as "Experimental"...
Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
Android-Desire said:
Not to sound like a broken record but with no play services do Google Photos and app updates work with that "sandboxed Play services compatibility layer" mentioned on they site?
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yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
Good to hear about... will be watching! cheers
I basically bought my P6P for this, so I'm extremely happy development is moving forward! Really hoping that, when a stable version is out, it will be possible to use the phone "normally" with it. Keep it up, Graphene team!
I'm with @Alex-Absolute I purchased my P6 just for GrapheneOS support, coming from a string of OnePlus devices. Though I am going to wait until it's listed as stable to switch, I'm excited they have a working build going!
I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
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I've got the release page in Windows' Aignes Website-Watcher, set to look for changes after "Pixel 6 Pro" and before "Version", so I should know when it changes to Stable.
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Amazing, thanks for the tip!
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yes. works very well (as long as you install all 3 parts of sandboxed play services). I would maybe wait a few days before installing it on the Pixel 6. but using A12 on my 3xl and everything works, photos, gboard, official gcam (all running with network access disabled).
Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page (it might just need to be updated). But if you're okay with maybe experiencing some bugs, it should work fine (but as stated above, most should wait a few days, they're very good on updating - especially the first few weeks after release)
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I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
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Amazing, thanks for the tip!
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You're welcome, I'm using the free version - it's been around for a very long time on Windows, and I'm using the Android app which appears to more or less sync with the Windows version through Dropbox, if you have or create an account with Dropbox. It doesn't work perfectly for me, but I at least get notifications on my phone about the same changes in websites that the Windows program lets me know about - so I at least know that I should get on the computer and look to see what's new.
Sorry to anyone for the OT - I have lots of Android-related sites set to give me notifications of changes through this program.
The non-free version is a little pricey for my needs.
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Are there any screenshots of this OS? I always like trying new things but I'm thinking there isn't much to look at that would be different from a standard Android OS
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I will post some screens later this evening...
I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
AndroidAddict420 said:
I used GrapheneOS on my 4a during most of the Experimental days, and i did not experience 1 hicup. I would compare their Experimental Builds to Android 12 Beta. So it's nothing to be afraid of. It's definitely ready for daily use in my own opinion....
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I agree. I've been using it off and on for 18 months on different pixels. but just good to be cautious, as always...
GrapheneOS just tweeted a few hours ago, the next release will be Stable for the 6 series (most likely this week)
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Also, GrapheneOS for Pixel 6 still says Experimental on their download page
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What I read about that is that its not experimental in the "unstable" sense, its that they haven't fully implemented the security enhancements.
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I've wanted to switch to this for a long time (It's actually a huge reason I switched back to the Pixel series) but I'm not sure if I can commit to losing Android Auto
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Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
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Given the sandboxed mode for play services, do you really have to lose auto?
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Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
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Good question. Last time I looked into it, AA was a no-go. Guess there's only one way to find out. I'll report back later if it works or not
UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
Other than that+call screeening, this build is solid for an "experimental" build (Tbh they could have put the stable flag on this, but I assume they are waiting for bug reports before doing so). If anyone is looking for a good de-Googling solution, this is it.
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Despite the hassle and increased expense, perhaps one of those Carplay AI boxes like Apple Pi might be the necessary workaround?
I'm very interested in this OS, but I too rely on carplay/auto as a general rule while driving. If I have to outsource my maps and music to an external box in order to have more comprehensive device security, that might just be the way it has to be.
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UPDATE: Still a no-go. I just receive an error that the AA protocol isn't supported. Guess I'll go back to compromising my privacy for the sake of convenience while driving.
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Thank you for reporting. As curious as I am about this OS, this rules this out for me too. Been using AA for almost four years now and I'm hooked.
I want privacy, but I cannot live without syncing all my stuff together. Is this OS for me?
hi everyone ,,,
I want to share my experience with this phone, the hardware is very good but the software is S***, waited for 1st update 3 months, and nothing fixed, second update 3 months and nothing is fixed, ( unexpected crashes, recent app windows lagging very badly, contacts don't show names in miss calls).
contacted support more than once, they don't have any understanding of any issue its like an auto message that tells you to wait for the next update and they don't have any schedule when the update will be released.
we are in Jan 2022 and my latest update is android 11 , October security patch.
I would not recommend this phone for anyone, don't make the mistake that I did.
I am selling this phone ASAP.
Thank you
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hi everyone ,,,
I want to share my experience with this phone, the hardware is very good but the software is S***, waited for 1st update 3 months, and nothing fixed, second update 3 months and nothing is fixed, ( unexpected crashes, recent app windows lagging very badly, contacts don't show names in miss calls).
contacted support more than once, they don't have any understanding of any issue its like an auto message that tells you to wait for the next update and they don't have any schedule when the update will be released.
we are in Jan 2022 and my latest update is android 11 , October security patch.
I would not recommend this phone for anyone, don't make the mistake that I did.
I am selling this phone ASAP.
Thank you
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Yeah I've been disappointed with my 6R. 1 month in and its already having charging issues. I'm curious what phone you're gonna buy after selling your 6?
hwoarang626 said:
hi everyone ,,,
I want to share my experience with this phone, the hardware is very good but the software is S***, waited for 1st update 3 months, and nothing fixed, second update 3 months and nothing is fixed, ( unexpected crashes, recent app windows lagging very badly, contacts don't show names in miss calls).
contacted support more than once, they don't have any understanding of any issue its like an auto message that tells you to wait for the next update and they don't have any schedule when the update will be released.
we are in Jan 2022 and my latest update is android 11 , October security patch.
I would not recommend this phone for anyone, don't make the mistake that I did.
I am selling this phone ASAP.
Thank you
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I agree that this phone hardware is a beast ! The software unfortunately is really bad especially i came from iOS which everybody knows how good they are with their softwares and updates. I already know that these kinds of android phone maker won't have software support as good as S*msung, let alone Ap*le.
However to be honest i don't have all the problems mentioned in your posts other than occasional Nubia launcher crashing (so i switched to using Niagara Launcher). There are lots of third party modification on playstore which can run great thanks to this phone beastly hardware. So i guess i can live with it.
Have you tried installing Global ROM (any one other than the one came with the phone when you buy it)
They dropped new update for EU Rom, i hope NA & Asia ROM gets an update too asap.
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Nvm update v427 for NA and Asia is available. Gonna try install it.
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I agree that this phone hardware is a beast ! The software unfortunately is really bad especially i came from iOS which everybody knows how good they are with their softwares and updates. I already know that these kinds of android phone maker won't have software support as good as S*msung, let alone Ap*le.
However to be honest i don't have all the problems mentioned in your posts other than occasional Nubia launcher crashing (so i switched to using Niagara Launcher). There are lots of third party modification on playstore which can run great thanks to this phone beastly hardware. So i guess i can live with it.
Have you tried installing Global ROM (any one other than the one came with the phone when you buy it)
They dropped new update for EU Rom, i hope NA & Asia ROM gets an update too asap.
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Nvm update v427 for NA and Asia is available. Gonna try install it.
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yes i am on the last EU software v3.27
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-13-tap-to-transfer/
January 10, 2022 3:59pm Corbin Davenport
Google reportedly working on tap-to-transfer feature for media in Android 13Android 12L hasn’t been officially released yet, but that isn’t stopping Google from working on the next major release, Android 13 (which is internally codenamed “Tiramisu”). We’ve already covered some of the features currently in the works for Android 13, but now details are public about another possible change — a “tap to transfer” feature for media playback.
Android Police has shared a supposed Google UI demo mockup for a new feature in Android 13, labelled as a “Media TTT” workflow — the “TTT” part is for “tap to transfer.” The screenshots show off a small message at the top of the display, which reads “Move closer to play on DEMO” in one image, and “Playing on DEMO” on the other. The latter popup also has an Undo button, presumably in case you accidentally walk close to a speaker and don’t want your music to start playing on it.
There aren’t any other details available besides what you see in the above screenshots. The functionality might work similarly to the ‘Hand off audio’ feature on Apple’s HomePod smart speakers, which allows you to hold an iPhone or iPod Touch close to a HomePod to set the speaker as the output. That feature uses a combination of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, but it’s not clear what mechanism Google will use if this functionality actually makes it into Android 13. Google could add this to the Chromecast functionality in Android, or bring it to standard Bluetooth wireless audio, or both. It’s unclear what technology this feature will use to share files.
Assuming a similar schedule as previous years, Android 13 will likely start rolling out in the fall of this year, with developer previews and beta releases in the coming months. Android 12L is supposed to arrive sometime before the end of Q1 2022, which can be anytime from now until March 31. Android 12 is still slowly rolling out to phones and tablets — Sony just started updating its devices, for example.
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The wording is awkward. Gives the impression of something similar to Bluetooth file transfer. I suppose it could be some kind of selective playback over Bluetooth (as opposed to routing *all* audio over Bluetooth), but since google is really into reinventing the wheel and making things only compatible with their own crap, its probably just (chrome)cast.
Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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It is never going to happen that any company is going to drop everything they're doing and only work on one thing.
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Google needs to fix their current software first before working on their next chapter.
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Software is perfect for me...
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It is never going to happen that any company is going to drop everything they're doing and only work on one thing.
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I completely understand, and I don't expect that. I was being heavily sarcastic given the many issues users have experienced with the last software update that had to be pulled because of a radio issue. Google just has weird priorities at times.
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It's been fine for me but I wouldn't say perfect. I've had some random reboots / glitches appear, and battery drain issues I can't explain.
Le Googs be like, 12 is a hot mess! Time to focus on 13 instead!
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I completely understand, and I don't expect that. I was being heavily sarcastic given the many issues users have experienced with the last software update that had to be pulled because of a radio issue. Google just has weird priorities at times.
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The radio issues are probably the responsibility of Samdung to deal with. I doubt that ANYONE at google is working on that at any depth greater than testing the updates received from samduck.
But even if google was doing actual work on the radio, do you really think that the same people have the knowledge and skills to work on radio firmware as those who work on UI or those who work on things like this feature? So you would do what? Lay off the UI and new features workers while waiting for the radio firmware people to fix their glitches?
Yup this is confusing because Google needs to fix stable 12 first but then they still developing 12L and now 13 lol I know they have different teams but I wonder if they will just merged 12L to 13 or just leave 12L for fold / flip devices.