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Basic Answers to Flashing procedure

Hey guys, I am new to whyred , flashed alot on other phones tho. Got some questions regarding the process of things I have to do to not mess up. I would do it like this:
0. I am on 9.5.19. miui global stable.
1. Unlock bootloader after 360 hours (hopefully)
2. Boot into Fastboot, boot up twrp image via command and then flash twrp via twrp.
3. Do I have to flash lazyflasher when I flash magisk? Which version of magisk is recommended atm? 1600?
4. After flashing one (or both, I don't know) I would go with flashing aosip or havoc (which is better on battery, features and over all performance?).
5. Do I have to flash some firmware or anything?
6. Since I am on Anti 4 (probably, didn't check yet but I am quite sure since I updated on 9.5.19) do I have to be aware of something else important?
Thank you guys for every help. If my answers will get answered and everything runs smooth sailing I will write a noob/starting guide to focus the knowledge a bit more. It seems really clustered in this forum

Do not flash any firmware for now. Since your are in 9.5.19 it has anti 4 enabled.. flashing firmware over anti 4 will brick your device.
Unlock bootloader
Boot to twrp and flash twrp
Wipe system cache dataa and flash custom ROM and gapps
Reboot to system
Reboot to twrp and flash magisk

SunilSuni said:
Do not flash any firmware for now. Since your are in 9.5.19 it has anti 4 enabled.. flashing firmware over anti 4 will brick your device.
Unlock bootloader
Boot to twrp and flash twrp
Wipe system cache dataa and flash custom ROM and gapps
Reboot to system
Reboot to twrp and flash magisk
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I still at 9.2.13 didn't update to 9.5.19 in that case I can flash and roll back to any firmware below antilock right?

Username.php said:
I still at 9.2.13 didn't update to 9.5.19 in that case I can flash and roll back to any firmware below antilock right?
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Yes. If you are in 9.2.13 build then you have to flash firmware along with custom ROM.
But if you are running 9.5.19 build do not flash any firmware. Just ROM and gapps is enough

SunilSuni said:
Yes. If you are in 9.2.13 build then you have to flash firmware along with custom ROM.
But if you are running 9.5.19 build do not flash any firmware. Just ROM and gapps is enough
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Which firmware are you referring to? You mean I can roll back or do I have update to certain firmware to flash custom Roms?

Username.php said:
Which firmware are you referring to? You mean I can roll back or do I have update to certain firmware to flash custom Roms?
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Yes you have to flash firmware file recommended by custom rom developer to avoid problems while using custom ROM. And its not related to anti rollback protection.
All the firmware recommended by developers doesnt have anti rollback protection but you shouldn't flash firmware file if you are using 9.5.19 stable build or 8.7.12 beta build because these build contains ARP and flashing firmware in ARP enabled device will brick your mobile

SunilSuni said:
Yes you have to flash firmware file recommended by custom rom developer to avoid problems while using custom ROM. And its not related to anti rollback protection.
All the firmware recommended by developers doesnt have anti rollback protection but you shouldn't flash firmware file if you are using 9.5.19 stable build or 8.7.12 beta build because these build contains ARP and flashing firmware in ARP enabled device will brick your mobile
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I'm a bit confused here. I have always been under the impression that firmware = ROM (with other phone brands) and they seem to be discussed interchangeably. Now with my Xiaomi Note 5 Pro, I hear about these as separate items a lot. What is the difference between firmware and the custom ROM, at least in the Xiaomi world? How do I know when I am dealing with one or the other?
TIA,

eisenbergw said:
I'm a bit confused here. I have always been under the impression that firmware = ROM (with other phone brands) and they seem to be discussed interchangeably. Now with my Xiaomi Note 5 Pro, I hear about these as separate items a lot. What is the difference between firmware and the custom ROM, at least in the Xiaomi world? How do I know when I am dealing with one or the other?
TIA,
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Your understanding is correct firmware is nothing but a ROM, but in custom ROM, developers dont include bootloader (In custom ROM world firmware contains bootloader related stuffs) in their OS because they will make use of bootloader from stock ROM thats why developer recommended firmware files so that their ROM works perfectly without any problem.
I might be wrong but this is how things work here. If you are on lastest global MIUI beta ROM then you dont have to flash recommended firmware file by custom ROM developer

SunilSuni said:
Your understanding is correct firmware is nothing but a ROM, but in custom ROM, developers dont include bootloader (In custom ROM world firmware contains bootloader related stuffs) in their OS because they will make use of bootloader from stock ROM thats why developer recommended firmware files so that their ROM works perfectly without any problem.
I might be wrong but this is how things work here. If you are on lastest global MIUI beta ROM then you dont have to flash recommended firmware file by custom ROM developer
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So when people talk about flashing firmware, they're really saying to flash/change the bootloader? Does the bootloader have a name, version number we would reference, or it's just 'the bootloader for MIUI Global 9..5.19.0'?
If I understand you correctly, if someone offers a ROM with and without firmware, you could install the ROM without firmware and it would work ok, but installing with the firmware (changing the bootloader) would make the ROM work better? Or just do the ROM with firmware if you have problems with the version that didn't install the firmware/bootloader?
I'm on MIUI Global 9.5.19.0. (just normal ROM), but with unlocked bootloader, twrp, Magisk installed (I can't work without my Titanium Backup Pro!)

eisenbergw said:
So when people talk about flashing firmware, they're really saying to flash/change the bootloader? Does the bootloader have a name, version number we would reference, or it's just 'the bootloader for MIUI Global 9..5.19.0'?
If I understand you correctly, if someone offers a ROM with and without firmware, you could install the ROM without firmware and it would work ok, but installing with the firmware (changing the bootloader) would make the ROM work better? Or just do the ROM with firmware if you have problems with the version that didn't install the firmware/bootloader?
I'm on MIUI Global 9.5.19.0. (just normal ROM), but with unlocked bootloader, twrp, Magisk installed (I can't work without my Titanium Backup Pro!)
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Most of the firmware recommended by developers contains older bootloader (Antirollback protection version 3)
Since you are in 9.5.19 your bootloader has Antirollback protection (ARP 4) so if you try to flash older firmware then your mobile will get bricked so avoid flashing any firmware recommended by developer because you already have latest bootloader
Firmware name will be based on global beta ROM version

information about firmware

hi people, ive recently bought a RN5 (global), while waiting to unlock the bootloader id like to know
1. how to flash latest firmware?
2. is it necessary to flash custom roms?
3.is it necessary to flash custom roms based on miui?
4. which firmware is recommend?
thanks for your help.
PD. im on ARB4 sadly.:crying:

WOS17 said:
hi people, ive recently bought a RN5 (global), while waiting to unlock the bootloader id like to know
1. how to flash latest firmware?
2. is it necessary to flash custom roms?
3.is it necessary to flash custom roms based on miui?
4. which firmware is recommend?
thanks for your help.
PD. im on ARB4 sadly.:crying:
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1. there are many ways. using the official sytem updater and searching for new updates. but if you are rooted and have twrp. i suggest to use either orange fox or red wolf twrp's they support OTA. thats for official miui. or you can download zip and use the sytem updater and using the 3 dots and data package.
or unlocked bootloader using fastboot rom 2.5GB and miflash tools. i think this is the best way when you have problems and needs a fresh clean installation. beware that at bottom the option its selected to relock bootloader . just change to clean. clean and lock will flash and lock bootloader.
2. depends am not sure in RN5 how is camera. most of the times when you dont use official rom from vendor camera quality decreases. say using stock firmware will give you best quality then when using AOSP LAOS.
if camera doesnt suffer from decrease quality then its good. your phone will be faster,more battery and there are lots of roms available. i have not tried AOSP or LAOS roms in RN5 thought.
2. i love masik rom over official rom. this is miui based rom. but no OTA. you have to manually flash new updates.
3. not sure about your question.
4. doesnt matter ARB. in ARB4 only thing that changes its that in order to have twrp permanent you have to do an extra step. ARB3 you flash twrp.img. and had to use lazy flasher file.
in ARB4 you have to boot twrp. then in twrp you must flash twrp.img to have pemanent. or use orangefox and thats it.

WOS17 said:
hi people, ive recently bought a RN5 (global), while waiting to unlock the bootloader id like to know
1. how to flash latest firmware?
2. is it necessary to flash custom roms?
3.is it necessary to flash custom roms based on miui?
4. which firmware is recommend?
thanks for your help.
PD. im on ARB4 sadly.:crying:
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Hello:
1. Being you are on ARB4, I would be extremely careful flashing firmwares. It's generally not necessary anyways, although sometimes newer firmwares can contain some bug fixes. In the ROM section you can find a thread with a firmware collection, including versions of firmware that have been stripped of ARB and thus *should* be safer to flash. You can follow instructions in that thread if you decide you want to flash.
2. Of course not. MIUI is a decent ROM by itself.
3. Of course not. It's purely a matter of preference. All ROMs you will find for your device support your device (duh), regardless of the base used.
4.There is no firmware recommended per se, because firmware is released by Xiaomi, thus we don't really know what's inside. We can have a general idea sometimes if a bug fix was applied our if ARB was changed looking at the whole ROM release notes, but that's all.
Hope that helps you.

Install Global ROM, Revert Stock Recovery afterwards

Good Day all,
I was wondering, is it possible to revert to the stock recovery after installing the Global ROM on the mi mix 3 China Version?
Reason I am wondering is because when I/We receive a OTA update from Xiaomi while using the Global ROM, will the phone be able to update or will it just freak out on me/us and die?
Currently I am waiting for my Bootloader to be unlocked (ETA 70HRS), I have all files necessary files downloaded (TWRP, Global ROM, Magisk v17.1)
Help/Advice would be appreciated :good:
Kind Regards

neilgeaney1 said:
Good Day all,
I was wondering, is it possible to revert to the stock recovery after installing the Global ROM on the mi mix 3 China Version?
Reason I am wondering is because when I/We receive a OTA update from Xiaomi while using the Global ROM, will the phone be able to update or will it just freak out on me/us and die?
Currently I am waiting for my Bootloader to be unlocked (ETA 70HRS), I have all files necessary files downloaded (TWRP, Global ROM, Magisk v17.1)
Help/Advice would be appreciated :good:
Kind Regards
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Yes you can go back. Yes you can get updates

Mackay53 said:
Yes you can go back. Yes you can get updates
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I find you very helpful in the forum and I would like to ask you few questions, I am thinking about buying the device but only chinese version is available here and I cant wait for the global to arrive
my questions are:
1- global version only released with 6GB RAM , if I got chinese version with 8GB , will it be able to run the global ROM ?
2- I have never flashed a ROM before , but I have strong knowledge in linux and command lines, will this be a hard task for me to do ? is it risky to brick the device ?
3- After flashing the Global ROM , will I receive official OTA updates directly from xaiomi without any problems ?

aboodelsoory said:
I find you very helpful in the forum and I would like to ask you few questions, I am thinking about buying the device but only chinese version is available here and I cant wait for the global to arrive
my questions are:
1- global version only released with 6GB RAM , if I got chinese version with 8GB , will it be able to run the global ROM ?
2- I have never flashed a ROM before , but I have strong knowledge in linux and command lines, will this be a hard task for me to do ? is it risky to brick the device ?
3- After flashing the Global ROM , will I receive official OTA updates directly from xaiomi without any problems ?
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1. Yes no problem, I'm on 8GB model and worked fine
2. Really hard to hard brick, soft brick possible but easily fixable via fastboot to flash new system, boot etc
3. I believe so, not tested as there isn't a 2nd global update out?

Mackay53 said:
1. Yes no problem, I'm on 8GB model and worked fine
2. Really hard to hard brick, soft brick possible but easily fixable via fastboot to flash new system, boot etc
3. I believe so, not tested as there isn't a 2nd global update out?
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Thank you , ok then I will buy the chinese device and maybe if I needed assistance I can reach to you

Mackay53 said:
Yes you can go back. Yes you can get updates
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Is it also possible to Re-lock the bootloader after the completion?
After ! have put the Global ROM on the phone, i want to:
1. revert the recovery back to stock
2. un-root
3 .Re-lock the bootloader
Is this possible?
Is there a copy of the original Recovery available?
Regards

neilgeaney1 said:
Is it also possible to Re-lock the bootloader after the completion?
After ! have put the Global ROM on the phone, i want to:
1. revert the recovery back to stock
2. un-root
3 .Re-lock the bootloader
Is this possible?
Is there a copy of the original Recovery available?
Regards
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Only relock the bootloader on the ROM base it came with. So if your phone came with the Chinese ROM do not relock bootloader with global. If you do it's goodbye phone
Stock ROM will install stock recovery once phone has booted up

Mackay53 said:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Only relock the bootloader on the ROM base it came with. So if your phone came with the Chinese ROM do not relock bootloader with global. If you do it's goodbye phone
Stock ROM will install stock recovery once phone has booted up
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Duly noted about the Bootloader.
Is there a way to get the likes of Google Pay to work on the Global ROM on the chinese phone without using Magisk Hide

neilgeaney1 said:
Duly noted about the Bootloader.
Is there a way to get the likes of Google Pay to work on the Global ROM on the chinese phone without using Magisk Hide
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You'd have to use the Xiaomi EU rom with or without magisk as the global ROM has a CTS mismatch so won't pass safety net.

Mackay53 said:
You'd have to use the Xiaomi EU rom with or without magisk as the global ROM has a CTS mismatch so won't pass safety net.
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Thank you for this information.
What EU ROM would you suggest to get all features based on your experience?
Using Mi Mix 3 CN Version 6GB/128GB

neilgeaney1 said:
Thank you for this information.
What EU ROM would you suggest to get all features based on your experience?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-12-27.48379/

So just to clarify, if I get a Chinese Mix 3, unlock bootloader, flash official global ROM, I CANNOT relock the bootloader, unless I flash back to the Chinese ROM?

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
So just to clarify, if I get a Chinese Mix 3, unlock bootloader, flash official global ROM, I CANNOT relock the bootloader, unless I flash back to the Chinese ROM?
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Yes that's correct

Mackay53 said:
Yes that's correct
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Thank you for clarifying & replying quickly, was really hoping there would be a workaround or alternative way to get around the brick to be locked again but I guess not..

Mackay53 said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-12-27.48379/
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Thank you for the link.
So when I flash this ROM, will it also re-flash the stock recovery?
Will this make any difference when I/We recieved the weekly OTA update?

neilgeaney1 said:
Thank you for the link.
So when I flash this ROM, will it also re-flash the stock recovery?
Will this make any difference when I/We recieved the weekly OTA update?
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No, flashing the ROM will keep TWRP installed as it's a custom miui ROM.
OTA works and will automatically flash the update via TWRP for you.

Mackay53 said:
No, flashing the ROM will keep TWRP installed as it's a custom miui ROM.
OTA works and will automatically flash the update via TWRP for you.
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Excellent Stuff
Is there any known problems at this present time with this custom MIUI ROM

neilgeaney1 said:
Excellent Stuff
Is there any known problems at this present time with this custom MIUI ROM
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All ok

Mackay53 said:
All ok
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Excellent Stuff
Just a quick update for you all that I have successfully, unlocked the Bootloader and installed the ROM.
Just a quick note to mention that after you do:
fastboot flash recovery TWRP_perseus.img
DO NOT put in the command:
fastboot boot TWRP_perseus.img
After flashing TWRP just take your phone (either connected or disconnected from PC) and hold vol up and power. It will reboot in TWRP.
I tried rebooting into the recovery using the above command line and it just rebooted into MIUI Recovery.
Hope this helps :good:

GAPPS
Has anyone tried to flash GAPPS onto this ROM safely or would it mess everything up?

Go back to Stock ROM from Custom ROM (Help)

Hello you beautiful people ,
I recently purchased a Redmi Note 5 AI and i want to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM since i'm not happy with MIUI, i have read about ARB and i'm fully aware that i can't flash an older MIUI ROM with a lower ARB than what i previously had.
But what's absolutely confusing me is if i decide to change my mind, how do i go back to Stock Everything (ROM, Recovery, Bootloader) basically and be able to receive OTA's from Xiaomi normally again? (I tried to search the forums to find an answer but i couldn't find anything so please don't tell me to check the forums).

Download fastboot ROM and flash it using MiFlash software
For more info visit en.miui.com/a-234.html

SunilSuni said:
Download fastboot ROM and flash it using MiFlash software
For more info visit en.miui.com/a-234.html
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Doing that will lock the bootloader and bring back the stock recovery as well, and i'm able to get OTA updates again?

ZozaTermina3or said:
Doing that will lock the bootloader and bring back the stock recovery as well, and i'm able to get OTA updates again?
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You will get option to lock the bootloader or keep the bootloader unlocked
Yes this method will bring stock recovery and you will get OTA updates.
You have to download global ROM to flash it on global variant device
Or China ROM to flash it on Chinese variant device

SunilSuni said:
You will get option to lock the bootloader or keep the bootloader unlocked
Yes this method will bring stock recovery and you will get OTA updates.
You have to download global ROM to flash it on global variant device
Or China ROM to flash it on Chinese variant device
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Ahh thank you so much ^^, sorry i keep asking way too many questions, but where do i get the option to lock the bootloader again? and if i'm on miui 10.2.20 before custom ROM, i can flash the same MIUI ROM i was on or an older one as long as it has the same ARB value?
and is there a guide on how to flash ROMS and recoveries, because i am extremely confused >.<

ZozaTermina3or said:
Ahh thank you so much ^^, sorry i keep asking way too many questions, but where do i get the option to lock the bootloader again? and if i'm on miui 10.2.20 before custom ROM, i can flash the same MIUI ROM i was on or an older one as long as it has the same ARB value?
and is there a guide on how to flash ROMS and recoveries, because i am extremely confused >.<
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In MiFlash software. Select clean_all and lock option to lock the bootloader
Yes you can flash 10.2.2 or any older ROM wich has ARB value 4 (you can flash any ROM between 9.5.19 to 10.2.2)

SunilSuni said:
In MiFlash software. Select clean_all and lock option to lock the bootloader
Yes you can flash 10.2.2 or any older ROM wich has ARB value 4 (you can flash any ROM between 9.5.19 to 10.2.2)
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Thank you so much sir, You are a life saver
I can flash the Custom ROM without any worries now ^^

Question Any way to flash stock ROM if my phone is on "anti:1"

All the stock MIUI rom available have an anti-rollback lv 0. Am I basically SOL until Xiaomi releases a rom that is anti-rollback lv 1 or is there a workaround? My phone is the global version if that helps.

shineburst said:
All the stock MIUI rom available have an anti-rollback lv 0. Am I basically SOL until Xiaomi releases a rom that is anti-rollback lv 1 or is there a workaround? My phone is the global version if that helps.
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I think I have the same phone as you do. My last lifeline was to try and flash the Pixel boot.img and see if that would at least get me recovery. No luck. Not really sure what to do at this point, but I think that it's the anti-rollback that may be causing a problem for me as well - just not sure what else is on there that could prevent it from accepting and booting a flash recovery. None that I've tried (lineage, pixel, orange, or twrp) work.
I think I'm just going to set the phone aside for a few months and hope that something develops in the meantime. Right now the phone is stuck in fastboot and is still a recognized device. I'd hate to blackscreen it by experimenting.
Just an aside, at this point I'd be very cautious about trying to flash a custom ROM to any handset that's been OTA upgraded to Android 12/Miui 13.

I gave it one last try using zgfg's recommendation here:
Bootloop Fastboot (stock) / Phone locked for security reason (Xiaomi.eu)
Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE (Lisa) Stock 12.5.8 EEA Bootloader unlocked, Orange Fox recovery and Magisk Canary 25.2 I was running the same set-up for a couple of months, by only updating when newer Magisk was released or some module. I never had any...
forum.xda-developers.com
Downloaded the -fastboot EU ROM which came with it's own .batch file in the archive. It pretty much wiped everything from the phone and installed a functioning version of A12/Miui13 and the handset is working again.

It's the same with me *anti 1*, I wanted to install miui eu. Is it smart, if anyone can give some advice. Thanks and regards .

akins0405 said:
It's the same with me *anti 1*, I wanted to install miui eu. Is it smart, if anyone can give some advice. Thanks and regards .
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Fastboot ROM, Stock or Xiaomi.eu (eu if you wanna flash other roms) if you haven't solved it yet.

abcxdaabc said:
Fastboot ROM, Stock or Xiaomi.eu (eu if you wanna flash other roms) if you haven't solved it yet.
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stock is current anti =0, I'm interested if I install some rom, will I be able to return to stock since my anti is 1 .

akins0405 said:
stock is current anti =0, I'm interested if I install some rom, will I be able to return to stock since my anti is 1 .
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I was on MIUI 13.0.10 EEA and my anti was 1.

akins0405 said:
stock is current anti =0, I'm interested if I install some rom, will I be able to return to stock since my anti is 1 .
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Just like Mthw, i was on MIUI 13.0.10 EEA and anti 1, gone back and forward between stock (only used stock fastboot) and custom, only problem was trying to flash other roms from stock, without first flashing eu fastboot.

abcxdaabc said:
Just like Mthw, i was on MIUI 13.0.10 EEA and anti 1, gone back and forward between stock (only used stock fastboot) and custom, only problem was trying to flash other roms from stock, without first flashing eu fastboot.
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the help and greetings.