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Hi y'all - just want to let Telus customers know that I have successfully unlocked my TP2 for 3rd party sims. In case it was one of those "should be possible, but I'd like to wait to buy until I know..." questions for some of you.
You may have seen the youtube vid, but I can confirm its true.
Also - Telus would NOT give out the sim unlock code for free. They got all squirrelly and weird and said they DO NOT support this, and they dont even have the unlock code even if they wanted to give it. They also said that they're locked at the factory which I argued is completely false as before you activate the phone, it says "SIM unlocked", and locks immediately afterwards.
Strangely, the first guy I spoke to was understanding, pleasant and said that I had to contact HTC, that they didn't actually have the code but I could definitely get it from HTC, and that he used to work for HTC in Canada before the dollar rose and they had to move elsewhere. Called HTC and they were confused and said "no, you have to get it from your telco, or a 3rd party".
That's what I thought. Canadian cell companies are waaaay to tight-fisted to give an inch on their overpriced bs.
$35 with popular canadian cell unlocking site - took 2.5 days.
So what did you have to do exactly? I'd love to have the Telus version, but being in Mex I was dubious about the simlock. And you can do it all online, right?
yes what did you do, or give us a link, plz, People gonna be need this as I am.
wouldnt a custom ROM accomplish the same thing?
Perhaps if you bought it without activating it, you could put on a custom ROM and then keep the SIM unlocked. I think, however, that they will be unlikely to be inclined to sell the TP2 without attaching it to Telus first. Once its locked by Telus, I think its locked in a part of memory that flashing won't overwrite. I could be very wrong - someone please enlighten if they know better... When you bought your Fuze and then flashed a cust rom, did it unlock the phone?? I've always been a CDMA customer in NA, with the occasional GSM blackberry overseas - but I bought them unlocked too.
www.mobileincanada.com is where I got my code. They told me that the Touch Pro 2 takes much more time to create code than other phones, hence the almost 3 day wait.
Tested: prior to unlocking a soft reset after sim install would elicit "SIM detected, not a Telus SIM - phone switching to CDMA only" or something like that.
Afterwards, SIM detected, switching to Global. I double checked that it could read my Optus SIM and get phone numbers off of it. It didn't complain at all and even tried to connect to Rogers - couldn't, of course, with a deactivated Optus SIM...
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Found an unused Rogers SIM kicking around... Will detect the network manually, but will not register on it. HTC did say that they locked out the NA GSM service providers as a service to the NA CDMA companies. Perhaps a flashed ROM would fix this... obviously the radio bands are compatible or it wouldnt detect it at all, no?
Huh, if it's not working then it really isn't unlocked...
Wonder if a Mexican sim would work (technically it's part of North America though culturally and economically speaking it isn't).
I don't understand why they'd lock out all North American gsm providers. Wouldn't the gsm providers of the same country be enough? After all, who'd want to be roaming all the time in Canada with a US provider's sim, it'd be much more expensive than any local plan.
Well, the SIM I tried has never been activated. It doesn't even work in my ROgers BB, it turns out. So I need to try an activated one.
Anyway, I do remember reading that HTC's compromise to the NA CDMA carriers was that they would disable using NA GSM companies in order that you would have to use your provider's CDMA roaming services throughout NA, even on an unlocked phone. Will do my best to test.
My main concern was getting it to worked on a 3rd party sim in Oz and Europe.
It is definitely "unlocked" however. The Settings/Security screen says "This phone is SIM unlocked", and now it will read any sim card I install. Before unlocking it wouldnt let you go near a non-telus SIM.
I ordered my unlock code through the same site, too. But they refund my money the next day saying my IMEI isn't in their database, thus unable to provide an unlock code for my phone.
this is one of those "are you sure its plugged in" questions so I apologise, but did you make triple sure you gave them the right IMEI code? Sometimes there are more than 15 digits, although I've been told its only the first 15 that matter...
Ok. I'd love to have the Telus version, what with the added bands, the cdma mode, the 3.5mm jack, and case very faithful to the original, and even the nostalgia factor (I remember when Telus was only for home phones) But I am not going to risk looking for an importer, buying it and all that if there's a chance that I would be unable to get the unlock codes. That'd be TRULY frustrating and a waste of money.
well, there are more than 15 digits on the back of the phone behind the battery, while there are 17 digits in Device Information. And since they only asks for first 15 digits, I just gave them that. Asked them to double check, still came back with IMEI not found. I'm pretty frustrated now...because I paid the the full price for the phone as I'm not qualified for upgrade yet as I got the Diamond for free last Sept. And since I got it from Telus store and there's no return, I feel pretty much got rip-off as I was in hope of using it in HK, where I travel to every year.
Travelling to HK
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I believe that these units are SIM-Unlocked for INTERNATIONAL use, like in HK -- so you shouldn't have a problem (according to what's been posted here).
-Dovid
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I purchased an unlock code from the site recommended by chopsxxx, but got a refund after 24 hours, saying they could not generate, after googling for sometime, purchase and unlock code from imeiunlock.info did receive the code its 8 digits in length. I try to enter the code after pressing ##778# but its only giving an option to key in 6 digits, can anyone help me with this?
This is for HTC Touch Pro 2 HTC TP2 from Sprint USA, its both CDMA and GSM version
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I was wondering how to tell from an unopened box what version a pixel 3 xl is? Is the model number different? From searching on Google I only see G013C mentioned but it's not clear if that's a designation for either the play store or Verizon version
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I'm not exactly sure what you are looking for. If you by it directly from Verizon, the phone will locked. If you buy it from google, you can get an unlocked verizon version and insert the verizon sim card. That is the version I bought for my wife.
jlokos said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are looking for. If you by it directly from Verizon, the phone will locked. If you buy it from google, you can get an unlocked verizon version and insert the verizon sim card. That is the version I bought for my wife.
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Unless he's buying it online and the seller is saying it's a Google version and wants confirmation.
Just got my unlocked pixel 3 xl just black 128gb from the google store and it has a sku of GA00472-US. However the same phone from verizon has a sku of GA00478-US. So they are different. You can get the skus on verizons site, and by googling the different models as if you were buying them.
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samklee said:
I was wondering how to tell from an unopened box what version a pixel 3 xl is? Is the model number different? From searching on Google I only see G013C mentioned but it's not clear if that's a designation for either the play store or Verizon version
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If you can get the IMEI number you can run it through this Verizon Website and it will return whether the device is VRZ or Non-VRZ
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Just got my unlocked pixel 3 xl just black 128gb from the google store and it has a sku of GA00472-US. However the same phone from verizon has a sku of GA00478-US. So they are different. You can get the skus on verizons site, and by googling the different models as if you were buying them.
This is very helpful information as good searches have come up almost completely empty for me. I'm trying to find a used or refreshed google store variant and it seems impossible to find the info from the sellers. they all list the same model number as being GA00475-US. some advertise it as a Verizon unlocked phone, and some as a GSM unlocked phone. I'm looking for the 64GB version in black but they all just list the same aforementioned model number regardless. only info I'm finding is from best buy with that 475 number also listing it as a version unlocked phone. So I have no clue what I'm getting basically.
google runs a solid game... If anyone can offer further incite to me or feature searchers that would be much appreciated. what is the GA00475-US model number, is it just the 64GB version, and how can we be sure we're avoiding the Verizon garbage?
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samklee said:
I was wondering how to tell from an unopened box what version a pixel 3 xl is? Is the model number different? From searching on Google I only see G013C mentioned but it's not clear if that's a designation for either the play store or Verizon version. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
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Maybe this post will help? The unopened box clearly states the IMEI. I would insist on knowing that IMEI anyway before purchase in order to check it is not blacklisted in the U.S.
If the imei starts with 35 it's Verizon and 99 it's Google. Also Verizon models will have a Sim Id or iccid and the Google model will have the EID or esim id
It's different now my IMEI starts with 99 and it's not only bootloader locked it's network locked to sprint.... i used this 99 IMEI thing to buy a pixel 3 xl from a third party and ya fool me once shame on me? Fool me twice ...... Ya
well it sucks to be me I bought a verizon 3 xl. damb! i thought for sure someone had figured out an exploit by now
Searching on Amzn for Pixel 3 XL renewed devices and I don't know how to tell if the bootloader is locked (to Verizon) or unlocked.
I heard something about the unlocked version IMEI starting with 9900 but when a phone is listed on Amazon, the person isn't going to show the IMEI.
Any way to tell when reading the item description?
Thanks
(I guess I can also send a message and ask but was hoping to get device next day).
Dont quote me on this, but Ive read on Google's site that only the Verizon model is locked. Not surw about IMEI or anythibg. I got mine directly from google so its unlocked. If it's not Verizon, its not locked. I brliev3 the newer Verizon ones are also not locked but like i said, dont quote me on it. just avoid a Verizon version and you should be good.
You need the IMEI to be sure. 99 is Google, 35 is Verizon. When they say unlocked they mean SIM unlocked, so you can use it on any carrier. All of the Pixels I have seen purchased on Amazon are the bootloader locked versions. A couple have been unlockable, but it is super rare.
IconBoy said:
Searching on Amzn for Pixel 3 XL renewed devices and I don't know how to tell if the bootloader is locked (to Verizon) or unlocked. I heard something about the unlocked version IMEI starting with 9900 but when a phone is listed on Amazon, the person isn't going to show the IMEI. Any way to tell when reading the item description?
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(I guess I can also send a message and ask but was hoping to get device next day).
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I've bought 3 Pixel phones and a 6P on Amazon. Usually on Amazon Prime Day. All were new and unlocked. That being said, in the link you provided if you go to "questions" you will see the Seller giving the model number as VZPI3XL64JB. Looks to be a Verizon phone to me, and that means bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked. Keep looking and you will find the right one.
I have a Note 10 Plus N975U1 that was sold as a Consumer Cellular device through Target. The phone came with the N975U1 unlocked ROM installed on the phone and there is no carrier apps or Consumer Cellular identification anywhere. The only reason I know it's Consumer Cellular is because of a message that popped up for something, can't recall what now.
Anyway, the phone acts just like an unlocked model. Put in various sim cards and the phone reboots through the blue recovery screen to update carrier software for the sim you are using. APN settings are available and can be edited. Everything is just like an unlocked model.
Except, it connects to the network for a couple minutes or so and then stops working. It acts like the Verizon versions do before they are unlocked by Verizon. Except the Verizon versions give you a little pop up stating the phone can't be used on another network. This model has no message.
I am guessing that they are locked using the same mechanism that Verizon uses for locking their devices now except they just are not showing anything to let you know.
Is anybody aware of exactly how this is done and any third party who can unlock it? I have tried a couple different unlocked ROM s as well as an AT&T and Verizon just to see what happens. Same problem.
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Have a link from the target site to the phone you bought?
I have a feeling that the phone is not actually unlocked or it may not be as what it appears exactly. You can run the IMEI number using swappa and see if the phone is indeed an U1 variant or just the normal carrier N975U.
It maybe possible (not sure how exactly) that your using an international variant that was flashed and configured to look like a N975U1. For example the phone listed here is an international variant that is compatible with US LTE, but I have some serious doubts with how compatible it really is. From past experiences with a local store that sells unlocked Note 10+ units for Net10, I discovered they are not actually US models and are really international models. They were flashed and configured in a weird way (best I can describe it) that it would work for the most part, work with Net10, but it would not work with the other providers here locally. It would at first appear to work but then fail all together.. It wasn't until I started digging into the IMEI number and what it belonged too that I discovered the truth of what the model actually is, and I then promptly returned the phone to the store I bought it from.
If the phone is just network locked and a genuine N975U1 model it would just seem that you only have to use the phone with the service for a certain period of time before they will unlock it. Consumer Cellular would be the best place to go to get (and ask about getting) the phone unlocked.
https://www.consumercellular.com/Help/phones-and-services/5
I resell used phones and specifically phones from Consumer Cellular. All the previous Samsung models used to come unlocked, but about the time the S10 was released, all their Samsung phones came with this unusual lock. I've tried working with countless unlockers and no one has been able to remove it. Once it connects to the internet, it downloads some google update and the phone loses voice/data service. I've wondered how they do this too. A few other models I have that have the same lock are the A10e A20 J7 S10/+ S20/+ Note 10/+. Really really frustrating as I've been searching for a long time now. If anyone knows anything, please let me know. I have hundreds of these that need to be unlocked. Also to clarify, yes they are all the U1 factory unlocked models.
Edit: Apparently when a carrier locked device is flashed to U1 firmware BEFORE unlocking, there is no software prompt to unlock the device. It probably was a carrier locked N975U originally. Maybe on Consumer Cellular firmware, there would be a prompt to unlock it?
These are the guys but they only do commercial work. I am pretty sure they never fail unlock.
https://www.swiftunlocks.us/
Guyinlaca said:
Edit: Apparently when a carrier locked device is flashed to U1 firmware BEFORE unlocking, there is no software prompt to unlock the device. It probably was a carrier locked N975U originally. Maybe on Consumer Cellular firmware, there would be a prompt to unlock it?
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These are not the U versions. I've sold CC phones for years and they are and have always been U1 models. Not only does it say it in the software, but even on the back glass. They are locking these things with an update somehow.
I'll reach out to swiftunlocks, but I would put a big bet up that they can't unlock it either. I'm connected with some of the top unlockers in the world as this is my business and no one has any idea. If anyone is reading this and wants a phone to test, I'll even send you one if you think you can unlock it. It's worth a lot of money to me to find a solution. The worst part is that these phones are all paid off and eligible to unlock through the carrier, but since "I'm not the original owner" they won't help me.
Shatter65 said:
These are not the U versions. I've sold CC phones for years and they are and have always been U1 models. Not only does it say it in the software, but even on the back glass. They are locking these things with an update somehow.
I'll reach out to swiftunlocks, but I would put a big bet up that they can't unlock it either. I'm connected with some of the top unlockers in the world as this is my business and no one has any idea. If anyone is reading this and wants a phone to test, I'll even send you one if you think you can unlock it. It's worth a lot of money to me to find a solution. The worst part is that these phones are all paid off and eligible to unlock through the carrier, but since "I'm not the original owner" they won't help me.
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My friend, did you finally find a solution to unlock samsung phones locked to consumer cellular, i have a few phones locked to them and i would like to know if theres a way to unlock them
seth81 said:
My friend, did you finally find a solution to unlock samsung phones locked to consumer cellular, i have a few phones locked to them and i would like to know if theres a way to unlock them
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I personally use samkey.org
Just received the phone from Swappa and OEM unlock is greyed out. Device says it is Google. How can I tell if I got ripped off?
STraver said:
Just received the phone from Swappa and OEM unlock is greyed out. Device says it is Google. How can I tell if I got ripped off?
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Can someone help me? Swappa advertised this as Google not Verizon.
STraver said:
Just received the phone from Swappa and OEM unlock is greyed out. Device says it is Google. How can I tell if I got ripped off?
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Go to this site...
https://www.verizon.com/onedp/byod#/
Select "Smartphone", type Pixel 2 XL, then click "I am not sure"
Type in your IMEI number
If it says something like PIXEL2XL-NVZW or "Looks like the IMEI you entered is for a GOOGLE PIXEL 2 NON-VZW.", you have a Google model (NV stands for Non-Verizon)
If it says something like "Your phone is a perfect match for our network", you have a Verizon model
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Go to this site...
https://www.verizon.com/onedp/byod#/
Select "Smartphone", type Pixel 2 XL, then click "I am not sure"
Type in your IMEI number
If it says something like PIXEL2XL-NVZW or "Looks like the IMEI you entered is for a GOOGLE PIXEL 2 NON-VZW.", you have a Google model (NV stands for Non-Verizon)
If it says something like "Your phone is a perfect match for our network", you have a Verizon model
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Thank you! This means the phone was advertised not as Verizon but as Google edition and I will file for a refund. Damn Swappa! I wish I could verify this identity before purchase but Swappa is not allowinng questions for businesses selling phones. Does anyone know another seller of used (mint or new) Google edition Pixel 2XL 128G?
STraver said:
Thank you! This means the phone was advertised not as Verizon but as Google edition and I will file for a refund. Damn Swappa! I wish I could verify this identity before purchase but Swappa is not allowinng questions for businesses selling phones. Does anyone know another seller of used (mint or new) Google edition Pixel 2XL 128G?
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I usually use Swappa myself. I always ask the seller to do the IMEI check and show me a screenshot of the answer, and if they don't I move on to another seller. I also ask them if they are sure it's a Google model and not a Verizon model and tell them that it needs to be a Google model so I can unlock the bootloader, making clear that I'm not talking about carrier unlocked but bootloader unlocked. That way, at least it's documented so if it turns out to be a Verizon Swappa can see what I was asking for.
I've seen a lot of people get Verizon models on eBay so be careful about them. In my experience, Swappa is pretty good at dealing with things. It's the sellers that don't always make it clear exactly what model you are buying.
I didn't realize they don't allow questions for businesses selling phones. I've always got mine from private individuals on Swappa. I've bought about 4-5 phones on Swappa and never had a problem with them. Just need to probe the seller a lot.
Good luck.
Lughnasadh said:
I usually use Swappa myself. I always ask the seller to do the IMEI check and show me a screenshot of the answer, and if they don't I move on to another seller. I also ask them if they are sure it's a Google model and not a Verizon model and tell them that it needs to be a Google model so I can unlock the bootloader, making clear that I'm not talking about carrier unlocked but bootloader unlocked. That way, at least it's documented so if it turns out to be a Verizon Swappa can see what I was asking for.
I've seen a lot of people get Verizon models on eBay so be careful about them. In my experience, Swappa is pretty good at dealing with things. It's the sellers that don't always make it clear exactly what model you are buying.
I didn't realize they don't allow questions for businesses selling phones. I've always got mine from private individuals on Swappa. I've bought about 4-5 phones on Swappa and never had a problem with them. Just need to probe the seller a lot.
Good luck.
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Thanks again! Maybe I should stick to private sellers. Great information and thanks for your support!
Lughnasadh said:
Go to this site...
https://www.verizon.com/onedp/byod#/
Select "Smartphone", type Pixel 2 XL, then click "I am not sure"
Type in your IMEI number
If it says something like PIXEL2XL-NVZW or "Looks like the IMEI you entered is for a GOOGLE PIXEL 2 NON-VZW.", you have a Google model (NV stands for Non-Verizon)
If it says something like "Your phone is a perfect match for our network", you have a Verizon model
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what if it says both
Awesome, your Google GOOGLE PIXEL5 NVZW is a perfect match for our network.
DevHaiti said:
what if it says both
Awesome, your Google GOOGLE PIXEL5 NVZW is a perfect match for our network.
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See if you can toggle OEM unlocking in Developer Options. If so you can unlock the bootloader. I've never seen both of those come up but considering it says "NVZW" I would guess it is not a Verizon model. Can't be 100% sure though.