I am new to android and it took a while to adapt to this phone coming from Symbian. couple of things I noted as a new user.
I think its essential to install the widget for turning on and off the mobile internet. This widget can be added as a little switch icon and is found in widgets/settings/mobile internet switch.
Leave it switched off when not using the internet or net services. When you want to check your facebook or email or surf, just flick it on, and away you go. Will save a lot of battery rather than leaving it on all the time.
I have my friend stream and news feeds and weather etc on manual update. So I just click to update them myself when I want to see whats new. It won't suit everyone to do it this way, but you'll be lucky to get 24hours from the battery with always on mobile internet connection and auto-updating for your 'live' pages.
Also set your wifi to sleep after 15minutes of phone inactivity. This can be set in settings/network and wifi/wifi settings/menu key - advanced settings.
btw, wifi is much more battery friendly than mobile internet. (based on others opinion too).
some cool apps are barcode reader & google skymaps.
Oh yeah, maybe install the android power widget into the bottom of one of your windows. It's handy for quickly switching between screen brightness modes and switching on or off services like wifi, gps, bluetooth, or synching etc. The screen obviously looks beautiful in full brightness, but its not always required if just surfing in a dark room etc.
playback of H.264 video. I tried a few h.264 mp4 files and could not get them to play. I ended up installing an evaluation of Any DVD converter professional 4.0.5. and that did the job. you can choose the Nexus One 800x480 profile. You can also crop a wide screen video to chop off the sides and avoid the letterbox black bars. great program and worth trying the evaluation one anyway. will be handy for converting TV shows etc.
Well, thats about it after 24hours. I've also heard the battery life will improve after 4 or 5 full discharge/charge cycles.
There were lots of comments (and still are) about how wifi is a battery killer on android wear. I'm not seeing this to be the case at all, when it's working like it's supposed to.
Since 5.1.1 my battery use has been around 3% and hour with all features on. Turning off bluetooth on my phone, with a 2/3 wifi signal on the watch, I'm seeing 2.5 to 3%.
Quick drain happens when walking around the edge of bluetooth range, as the watch switches back and forth between bluetooth and wifi. It seems that as long as it's not finding bluetooth, battery use is normal at worst for me.
I know that the moto 360 will switch to a state of only checking for updates occasionally to save battery, but I don't see this happening. Notifications are coming to the phone, and shortly afterward on the watch. I have not seen a time when a notification was delayed more than a few seconds.
The downside to wifi-only use: some apps that communicate with a phone app don't work. My watchmaker face doesn't update the phone battery level. Google voice commands fail too often, maybe half of the time.
I think google should change the frequency of attempting to reestablish bluetooth connection while on wifi.
Has anyone else tried this? Either turn off your phone's bluetooth, or make sure it is well out of range.
I'll give it a go tomorrow at the office and report back.
Sent from my Xperia Z3
Thanks to a heads up by DarkRazorZ, I learned wifi can be turned on in airplane mode. Will be looking to see if this makes any more difference.
Watch maker has been my biggest battery drain. It also makes the drop down menu laggy and impossible to use.
Yeah, I had that problem with watchmaker. I use intelligent and it seems to work well. Other people report facet works too.
I concur. Wi-Fi uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth, with an acceptable lag - 1-2 seconds on notifications. Bluetooth seems like a big battery drain on the phone and on the watch.
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My Nexus 5X takes around 22 seconds from enabling wifi to achieve a connection.
I think this is excessive, especially when my last Samsung phone only took 4 seconds.
I use Leandroid to control wifi switching, so have to wait until I can check for emails or browse the net. At times this can be very frustrating.
The issue was present running stock and my current custom ROM, latest Pure Nexus.
So it looks like the problem resides in the Google OS.
Does anybody else have this issue?
If so, you may be interested in a workaround that reduces the 22 seconds to around 4 seconds.
It involves opening wifi in settings and is best accomplished using an automation app. I use macrodroid with the following macro
T - Screen unlocked
A - Enable wifi, Launch Shortcut Settings shortcut, Wait Before Next Action 1 sec, Press Back Button
C - Wifi Disabled AND 06:00 - 23:00
The macro opens the wifi setting screen for 1 second before it is closed followed a few seconds later with wifi connected. The macro constraints ensure the macro is only run after Leandroid has switched off wifi and only during the daytime, but you can have different constraints.
I would prefer the issue is resolved by Google but for now can live with this workaround.
Nobody having the same issue!
Suggests this might be a fault with my phone rather than a software problem.
Please let me know your wifi connect times with the ROM you are using.
Thank you
I have the same problem however I don't care about it as much as you do. Unrooted nexus 5x user here. Sometimes it doesn't connect at all if I don't expand the WiFi in quick settings.
dhj49er said:
My Nexus 5X takes around 22 seconds from enabling wifi to achieve a connection.
I think this is excessive, especially when my last Samsung phone only took 4 seconds.
I use Leandroid to control wifi switching, so have to wait until I can check for emails or browse the net. At times this can be very frustrating.
The issue was present running stock and my current custom ROM, latest Pure Nexus.
So it looks like the problem resides in the Google OS.
Does anybody else have this issue?
If so, you may be interested in a workaround that reduces the 22 seconds to around 4 seconds.
It involves opening wifi in settings and is best accomplished using an automation app. I use macrodroid with the following macro
T - Screen unlocked
A - Enable wifi, Launch Shortcut Settings shortcut, Wait Before Next Action 1 sec, Press Back Button
C - Wifi Disabled AND 06:00 - 23:00
The macro opens the wifi setting screen for 1 second before it is closed followed a few seconds later with wifi connected. The macro constraints ensure the macro is only run after Leandroid has switched off wifi and only during the daytime, but you can have different constraints.
I would prefer the issue is resolved by Google but for now can live with this workaround.
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I have this issue with my original and replacement 5X. No idea why it takes so long. I hope a mini bug fix will help it out when the new unicode update comes to us in the form of next weeks update.
balekoglu said:
I have the same problem however I don't care about it as much as you do. Unrooted nexus 5x user here. Sometimes it doesn't connect at all if I don't expand the WiFi in quick settings.
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My stock 5X takes roughly 12 seconds to connect to Wi-Fi, so I started doing this. Expanding the Wi-Fi in QS drops the Wi-Fi connect lag to 4 seconds or less for me. Much better experience, yet still an annoyance that I have to do this.
Edit: To clarify, tapping Wi-Fi in Quick Settings causes a severe lag of 12 to 20 seconds before it connects to my home Wi-Fi. Expanding Wi-Fi in QS cuts that time to just 4 seconds which is normal for my other devices.
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I may be being daft here but I can't find a way to turn the bluetooth off and only be connected to the phone via Wi-Fi...
Is that actually possible? Or does being connected by Wi-Fi automatically disable the bluetooth anyway?
Lol, try airplane mode and then enable wifi.
Think you will come back from that soon enough ,expect battery not lastig very long.
Turn bt off on your phone. The watch will continue to search for a bt connection, but will stay on wifi. Make sure cloud sync is turned on in the phone app, of course.
Technically, you can put the watch in airplane mode and then activate wifi in the menu, but it will have reduced ability. IIRC you may still get notifications, but won't be able to reply.
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Apb said:
Lol, try airplane mode and then enable wifi.
Think you will come back from that soon enough ,expect battery not lastig very long.
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Have you tried it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/seeing-equal-battery-life-wifi-vs-t3164463
I've tried cloud sync and walked away from phone (far enough), battery didn't like it at all... Also going for a exercise in that mode, without phone , impacted hard on my watch's energy
Wifi is off on my watch since then
Cheers for the replies guys, much appreciated. Seems I shouldn probably just leave things be, it was only a curiosity thing to be honest. Mainly as my phone and watch are both connected to works Wi-Fi I thought it seemed off to leave the BT on.
Apb said:
I've tried cloud sync and walked away from phone (far enough), battery didn't like it at all... Also going for a exercise in that mode, without phone , impacted hard on my watch's energy
Wifi is off on my watch since then
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pretty much that, Wifi is not low energy compatible like BT4.0, in the end BT4.0 is optimal (near 0 energy consumption Wifi is only starting to show up tho but no device use it now )
what's the advantage you see with Wifi instead of BT? i wonder because i see none.
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Have you tried it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/seeing-equal-battery-life-wifi-vs-t3164463
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funny because peoples in that thread claim Wifi use less battery than BT4.0, that's just so weird because it's wrong ... i suspect a Placebo effect.
"Power Consumption: A General Picture
Bluetooth devices typically have low power consumption while Wi-Fi uses much more electrical power. In part, this is due to the broadcast range of the two technologies. Both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi devices announce themselves by emitting a signal with a frequency of 2.4 gigahertz. Bluetooth devices emit a signal that travels for about 30 feet, while Wi-Fi signals travel about ten times as far. Wi-Fi devices need more power to generate a stronger signal.
Power Consumption: Details
Rahul Balani of the Electrical Engineering Department at the University of California, Los Angeles, has run extensive tests to measure the power consumption of Bluetooth versus Wi-Fi. His results indicate that in some cases, Bluetooth uses less than 3 percent of the power required by Wi-Fi for the same tasks. For example, sending data at the rate of 75 bytes per second over Wi-Fi requires approximately 80 milliwatts of electrical power. Sending data at the same rate over Bluetooth consumes only 2 milliwatts. "
for basis
and for Wifi direct
"Power Consumption
Since both specifications are touted as “low energy” and expected to help fuel innovation in the always on society we live in, power consumption is important. I’d argue that it could be the most important aspect which determines the winner. Until current mobile battery technology improves, we can’t be expected to utilize anything that significantly depletes the life of a battery.
Wi-Fi Direct is said to extend battery life by anywhere from 15 to 40 percent depending on factors such as file size, Wi-Fi protocol, range and device type.
Bluetooth 4.0 has the more impressive of the two technologies as Bluetooth Low Energy (Bluetooth LE) is said to allow a battery to run for a year or more before it’s fully depleted. That said, additional factors within your device will contribute to battery drain, so this may not be fully accurate, but it’s impressive nonetheless.
A number of cool technologies currently make use of Bluetooth LE. One of these is TrackR, which is a small coin-sized device that attaches to just about anything and lets you track the item using TrackR’s Distance Indicator in order to find it. Lost keys, missing sunglasses, or that hard-to-find wallet or purse might just be a thing of the past.
Other technologies, like Knock, aim to eliminate the need for passwords by allowing you to unlock your devices only when your mobile phone is nearby. Once installed, the iOS app allows Mac users to tap twice in order to log in to securely log in to a password-protected computer.
Winner: Bluetooth 4.0"
as a example, my SW50 last 2-3 days (more often 2d than 3) with my use (notification, calc, schedule, and some MyRoll pics showoff for fun ) i use Minimal&Elegant watchface (highly customizable and customized), while my Wiko Highway Star 4G last 3 to 4 days permanently hooked on BT with the watch (depending the use i get 1-2 day sometime but 4 was my maximum)
sirrelevant said:
Turn bt off on your phone. The watch will continue to search for a bt connection, but will stay on wifi. Make sure cloud sync is turned on in the phone app, of course.
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where do I have to activate cloud sync?
pokko said:
where do I have to activate cloud sync?
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open the wear app, tap the gear at the top right corner (settings), choose privacy & personal data
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ReiverBlade said:
funny because peoples in that thread claim Wifi use less battery than BT4.0, that's just so weird because it's wrong ... i suspect a Placebo effect.
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My observation was objective, not subjective. It was recording battery levels every half hour over several hours with the same number of notifications, and repeating with wifi.
You are more than welcome to post your numbers.
Well with the same usage, it's not possible that a tech that need 4 time more power use less power, it's illogical unless the link is weak and less efficient.
And on a phone basis I already posted my battery life of both device 2-3 days and 3-4 days with Bluetooth on.
If I use Wi-Fi my phone barely last a day.
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open the wear app, tap the gear at the top right corner (settings), choose privacy & persononal data
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Ok, thank you.
working
how do we know if this is working as I seem to have lost connections even with wifi connected!
hmmmm no response!!!
well wifi things had never worked for me as soon as bluetooth is dropped I loose connection.... so any ideas why?
I've got a couple of weird things going on with my Pixel 3XL. Phone is stock with the latest updates and security. Randomly, the phone will start playing music...no apps open in the background (according to recents) and I have to reboot it to make it stop. I'm at a loss here. Secondly, when I select a WiFi source the phone will try to stay with it even when it's out of range, it won't change to a better channel or stronger signal. I have a WiFi router in my garage and it won't automatically switch to it if I had selected my house WiFi first even though there's no signal. I have to manually switch...any ideas?