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Is the Note 8 the best phone ever or are you tempted by competition?

I traded in my Note 5, which I loved for the Note 8 and the Note 8 is clearly the best phone I've ever used. That said, 2017 has finally brought compelling competition worth considering.
What I love about the Note 8:
-Hands down the highest quality screen of any phone
-6 GB RAM makes multitasking great
-The camera takes awesome pictures
-The battery life is incredible
-The theme engine allows dark theme without root
-Call quality is outstanding
-The phone is blazing fast 98% of the time
-Headphone Jack
What I don't love about the Note 8:
-The height and weight of the phone. I have large hands and could always manage the Note 5 one handed, but the height of the Note 8 with added weight make it awkward to use in certain situations. I think if the phone were wider, it might balance the weight distribution. Using a Pixel 2 XL and V30, both are much manageable in the hands.
-The forced white navbar is a nuisance for dark themes. Couldn't Samsung offer grays or faded navbar icons to minimize burn in? I use a 3rd party app to mostly mitigate the problem, but not all apps work properly with it.
-The Bixby button. Again, I've used a 3rd party app to mitigate the problem, but it doesn't seem like a polished solution. Samsung just needs to give us options to remap it.
-The curved screen. Yes, it looks great, but the shadows and light refraction make it annoying at times.
Obviously, the pros of the phone greatly outweigh the cons but every time I see someone using a Pixel 2 XL, I am jealous of the more manageable size, the fast and fluid UI that gets updated faster, and the even bigger battery. I am well aware that both the Pixel 2 XL and V30 have far more problems than the Note 8, namely their screens and bluetooth. Being on Verizon, the OnePlus 5T isn't an option, though I love the thought of a phone that has 8 GB RAM and custom ROM capabilities. Maybe I'm just dreaming of a Note 8 running stock Android, and with a flat 18:9 screen ratio instead of 18.5:9 (which seems to account for the length and narrowness). I'm not actually considering switching phones, but I've been tempted to get another flagship to replace my Nexus 6 as a business line. Thoughts?

I got a note 8 and my wife broke the screen of her s7 edge so of course she wanted fixed or a new phone. Gave her my note 8 and got myself an LG V30 thinking that my note 8 was still too big. After 4 hrs I decided I wanted the note 8 back. The note 8 is a superior phone in all ways except for the audio. I traded the v30 for a new blue note 8 in Bestbuy with 300 dollars off. If I have spare money for another phone I would probably get a pixel 2 xl. I watch a lot of videos and YouTube and the 2 speakers in the front appeal to me. For a daily driver I would get bored right away of the pixel. The note 8 could be customized in so many ways that I haven't even installed Nova launcher yet which has been a most in all my previous phones. If you have a note 8 you have the best Android phone currently and period.

Ha, what competition. Note 8 plays in it's own world. It's a beast.
Also with Oreo update it's only better

I had an ASUS Zenfone AR that I got in September. Nothing but problems - which probably explains why VZW pulled it in less than 6 months. After going through 3 Zenfones, I finally convinced VZW to buy it back and got the Note 8 last week.
Size is very good
Wireless charging FTW
Agreed with above points on speed, screen resolution, etc.
First thing I did was install Nova Plus
I played with the advanced Audio settings - including the hearing test and my LG BT Headset sounds amazing!
Theme engine???????
Disabling Bixby and downloading Google Assistant, finding an obscure setting that I can't find again that selects GA as the default and now it works perfect, but it took me a week to get it to work right.
The one thing I DON'T like about the curved screen is that in 2 weeks, I've had 2 tempered glass screen protectors crack and I have to think this is because of the curve. This second one is just a minor hairline at the bottom but the first one was worse.
The other was being reminded that you can't just connect a Samsung to your computer and transfer files >: Still looking for the best way to do that or break down and pay for Wondershare Mobile Go - which may be worth it since you can browse system files

I've only had it a few days.....had to root and debloat and amend some things (adblocker, viperFX...) It's sure is a beautifully designed thing. It's also like having a Mercedes made out of glass. First thing I did when I ordered it was to order a case and screen protector. No way I would go without it, even walking around a carpeted house. But the key reason I got it was that it was rootable and a high end phone. I was coming from a quirky but great V10 and a Note 3 before that. I will simply not have a phone that I can't root.

I like it a lot incredible battery life using a disable of course most crashes are caused by wonky apps..not blazing fast but not real important. I still prefer it over my iphone 6s plus.. not sure which phone is faster, but for a phone, I choose android.. previous phone was LG10,Note4,galaxys4....way better than those
I'm just looking for a upgraded spen device then I'll be content with the note 8

I'd possibly go to a Pixel 2 XL

I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks

pbman1953 said:
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Ive been using Samsung for years. Started with the s3 then note3 then note5 and now pixel2xl.
So far pixel2xl has been great. The colors were a bit dull before the update giving us saturated colors, which fixed it for me. But other than that performance wise its a dream. My personal experience i have yet to experience studder or lag. Performance is the best ive ever experienced with any previous phone and the battery life is second to none. I average 8hr sot with watching YouTube, games, calls, internet.
The note3 and note5 were bought through Verizon so i haven't been able to flash roms or anything since my s3 and currently enjoying trying different mods and whatnot.
Overall this phone is amazing. Im not sure about the button to answer, as of right how it's swipe but could be a way to change that. If you get a chance to get this phone you won't be disappointed.

I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.

The pixel 2 XL was good enough to replace my note 8. And that's says a LOT! ?
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daviddem said:
I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.
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That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good

Love my Pixel XL 2 better than my S8+

Reuben_skelz92 said:
That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good
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Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.

I've been a Samsung fanboy since my Samsung Galaxy vibrant with T-Mobile. I've had every Samsung Galaxy S phone up to the Galaxy s8+. I don't miss it one bit. I was on the fence for several weeks. I ordered it, cancelled multiple times because of all the bad press. I eventually pulled the trigger and bought the 64gb in black, but I forgot to get the premium coverage. So I returned it and got a 128gb. I don't regret purchasing this phone outright at all. To be honest. I don't think I'll go back. Not until Samsung comes out with something unbelievable. The way that I look at it. Samsung is like a Lamborghini or Ferrari of Android. But they can throw all the best parts, displays, whatever bells and whistles they want. But what good is a Lamborghini or Ferrari with a bad tune? Although the pixel 2 XL may not be the best looking device. It's tuned specifically for this phone and you can tell. Also, I sort of prefer the "natural" colors of this display. If you're going to look for issues, your going to find them in any device. But as for the phone calls. When somebody calls and your display is off. It will pop up a a screen with a circle. You can swipe up to answer the call, or down to ignore it. If your screen is on. A small box will pop up with the contact calling and you can take answer or ignore. I'll try to send some screen shots.

Some reason I couldn't update my previous post. But the attachments are what the call screen looks like from both perspectives.

Ive had my Pixel 2 XL for a week now and I have never had any lag/stutter even when syncing in the background. Battery is superb, 5-6hrs screen on time is easily achieved. Speakers are loud and clean. What can I say more about the camera? Camera is beast!
I used Samsung from S2 to S6 and there is always this delay/lag when opening apps. I guess its just the animation. I find Samsung chargers easy to have problems (slow charge). I am not sure with the S8 now. AMOLED is nice, but hurts my eyes. These are the reasons I went away from AMOLED to IPS LCD (pre-Pixel2XL). I was hesitant at first getting the Pixel 2 XL with all these display issues around it. But personally, the Boosted display settings is just right. I do not like the Saturated settings because it reminds me of Samsung. Too vivid for my liking. The Boosted colors are not washed out, people are just used to/spoiled seeing punchy AMOLED displays, looked unnatural.
As for your concern, a little adjustment when taking the call would be the best move.
So, if youre looking for a phone with the best performance, updates, camera, go get the Pixel 2 XL.
Display is subjective. For the missing headphone jack, im ok with it, they provide a c-3.5mm converter. Thats about it! Hopefully I have contributed something to your decision.

daviddem said:
Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.
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That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.

I've had a LOT of phones over the years, usually switching every 6 months selling off whatever I had to get the absolute latest, but slowed down once I got my OnePlus 3T... It's an AMAZING phone for the price. I was done with Samsung after the 6 series. That said, I went to the Google Pixel 2 XL instead of the 5T because of the dual front facing speakers as well as a few other Pixel only features and I do not regret it at all. The blue-shift isn't too bad once you adjust the colors a bit on the screen (I'm rooted and using EX Kernel / KCal).
My girlfriend has the Samsung S7 Edge and a few friends have the S8s and all want the Pixel 2 XL now after checking it out. It's hard to match the software experience you get on a Pixel device, that's for sure. You can't beat having dual-speakers on a phone, makes for daily use, hearing calls, music, watching videos all the better. I do recommend the 5T for those not worried about camera or dual-speakers as it's got a nicer out-of-the-box looking screen and is much less expensive to purchase, it's no slouch overall. In the end, the Pixel 2 XL was worth every extra penny for my use... make a list of things you need from a phone and see which works best for you as you're all that matters with your phone purchase. Our opinions aren't here to sway you away from what's best for you.

Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?

pbman1953 said:
Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?
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Depends on what you want. For me 100% it is. Adaway, themes, terminal em, titanium backup, root browser.

Besides the themes, can you explain what the others are for

I've used Titanium when I had the note 4. I don't know how a root browser would be different

mlin said:
That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.
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I agree. Saying it's double the price is an exaggerated. And I was surprised. When I was using the oneplus 5t my wife's pixel 2 did seem even more fluid and smooth
All the little things for me have been working better on the pixel 2 as well. I get better mobile signal...and sometimes the oneplus would refuse to turn on my mobile data so I had to restart it
The vibration motor is much nicer on the pixel
Screen is on par if not better in some areas on the pixel
Dual speakers. Amazing camera
Don't get me wrong the oneplus 5t is a great phone for the price but when you switch to the pixel you do feel the price difference in pretty much every area
..even in the small things

At this point I can't imagine going back to a non-Google phone. My first smartphone was a Nexus One and I loved it. I then went to a Galaxy S2 which was a piece of ****. Since then I have yet to see much improvement from Samsung software and the software from other phone makers isn't much better. I'm pretty much on an every other year cycle of whatever Google puts out because even if it isn't perfect it's still better than the alternative.

pbman1953 said:
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Can I add that the ambient display with time and date is soooo fine?
When notifications arrive, they're below the always on time and date.
Plus there's "what's playing now", showing artist and song name for whatever
you're listening to. These capabilities make this phone perfect for me.
Battery life does not seem to take a hit for this luxury.

The active Edge (squeezing it) allows me to turn on the torch with screen off, which is awesome. Like when getting my keys out at night. The phone is spectacular and I've had an s8+. It's my fav. You prob could map the squeeze to answer phone. But I know you could answer with push of a button. Just remap the fourth hidden nav button maybe.

Anyone upgrade from Oneplus 6 to Pixel 3 xl?

I currently own a Oneplus 6 but have always loved the Pixel line up. This year i was wondering if anyone who owns both or has made the change from the Oneplus 6 to the pixel 3 xl see a difference. Is it worth it to upgrade or just wait to see what the Oneplus 6t brings. I love the stock feel from the pixel and although the oneplus has a similar stock feel i still prefer the look and feel of the pixel maybe because of the better screen not sure. Any comments or comparison i can be pointed to would be appreciated.

I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick

I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.

Yeah I want to wait off a bit for the announcement. The thing about the oneplus that it makes the phone slow down is that I prefer the stock pixel dialer and Google messaging so I have to use magisk to get the dialer and the messaging app. But for some reason the messaging app hands and crashes. Also the streen I wish they would finally go to a quad HD since they keep raising the price. And now with no headphone jack rumor I think I rather go back to pure android. [​QUOTE=sn0warmy;77941493]I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.[/QUOTE]

sn0warmy said:
I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.
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Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.

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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.
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Agree

I did

micks_address said:
I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick
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How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face

Hazzay88 said:
How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face
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My main issues with the p20 pro was updates are a little slow, also android auto didn't work as well. I had issues with screen being drawn incorrectly on car headunit. Couple of niggles with software in general and Bluetooth 4 on the p20 I found my Sony headphones would loose connection in crowded places. Otherwise screen, form factor etc were good. The camera is probably more natural on the pixel but not much in it. It's a pity the pixel doesn't have advanced face unlock as the notch is surely big enough to accommodate it. So far prefer the pixel. Also knowing Google certify everything in the pixel is a little reassuring. Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.

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... Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.
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I am sure they have your file in Beijing...

@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL

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@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL
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how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3

masri1987 said:
how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3
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OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%

lollyjay said:
OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%
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what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .

masri1987 said:
what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .
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My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be

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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be
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How long have you had your phone?
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lollyjay said:
How long have you had your phone?
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Since Wednesday

masri1987 said:
Since Wednesday
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Probably will settle down after few more days
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Which phone is significantly better than Pixel 2 XL ?

I am confuse which phone to upgrade right now .. I have switched to few phones i.e HTC U11, P20 pro, S9 Plus, S8 Plus, Honor 10, P20, note 9 etc but none of them impressed me and came back to Pixel 2 XL....Which phone is significantly better than Pixel 2 XL? When I say better I mean better camera, sound and battery life which are three important factor for me in smartphones....new pixel phones are only slight updates ..what options are there in others brands ..It seem there is no prefect phone out there which provide everything without any compromise

In my opinion, not much unless you want to get something from the S10 series. I tried the Xiaomi MI 9 and it just didnt feel right. Specs were good but it just wasnt polished like the pixel phone. I'm personally waiting for the Pixel 4 xl to come out.

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In my opinion, not much unless you want to get something from the S10 series. I tried the Xiaomi MI 9 and it just didnt feel right. Specs were good but it just wasnt polished like the pixel phone. I'm personally waiting for the Pixel 4 xl to come out.
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My wife has the S10+ and lives it. A few years ago she got the S8+ then got the S9+. On the S8+ they started hurtling the experience of you rooted so at that point she said screw it and didn't care about the customization options of rooting. Now she done care at all.
I think if you are in the scene and really enjoy the experience of modifying and squeezing every ounce of whatever gets you off then the S phones are not for you. If on the other hand, you can't really qualify why you root other than just cause it's cool, the S10+ certainly a great phone...
I am really hoping the Pixel 4 XL is a solid improvement with no stupid notch. 6 or 8 megs and a slamming screen need to happen also!!

I don't think there's any phone right now that's "significantly" better to be honest. Maybe just better in some ways. I still think it'll be a couple years before you can say significantly tho.

P30 Pro would be the phone to have but I wouldn't call it the ultimate device to have as that doesn't exist. However it is a great phone no doubt. I'm using the Mate 20 Pro and absolutely love it so my next device would be the Mate 30 Pro.
I had the Pixel 2 XL back in the day and it was an amazing phone. I didn't want to get the 3XL because it seemed like a downgrade. If things get better with the Pixel 4 XL like 4000 mah battery and better body I might give it a try over the Mate 30 Pro. However its going to take a lot to take me away from Huawei now.
I tired many phones and my favorite two are Mate 20 Pro and Pixel 2 XL

What about OnePlus 6T? You can toss in the Google Pixel Camera and the photo quality is surprisingly good. OxygenOS is not my cup of tea but it's pretty close to stock plus there's a lot of Rom support and development.

CyberpodS2 said:
My wife has the S10+ and lives it. A few years ago she got the S8+ then got the S9+. On the S8+ they started hurtling the experience of you rooted so at that point she said screw it and didn't care about the customization options of rooting. Now she done care at all.
I think if you are in the scene and really enjoy the experience of modifying and squeezing every ounce of whatever gets you off then the S phones are not for you. If on the other hand, you can't really qualify why you root other than just cause it's cool, the S10+ certainly a great phone...
I am really hoping the Pixel 4 XL is a solid improvement with no stupid notch. 6 or 8 megs and a slamming screen need to happen also!!
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I have tried many samsung phones from Samsung s6/ S7 edge to S9 Plus/Note 9 but I have got same sort of experience ..Not much improvement in design, Display, software and camera ..only slight tweak here and there. I compared s7 edge photo with S9 plus and they were pretty much same and even s7 edge has better result and details in some photos thats why I did not went for S10 ..Samsung old phones offer same experience in less price .. I am also not big fan of curve edge screen which are slippery and not easy to grip because you accidently touch screen while holding it ..If I will ever get any phone from S10 series then will opt for s10 e even though its battery is small but Samsung software even one UI with latest hardware was not as fluid as pixel or ios

Hazzay88 said:
P30 Pro would be the phone to have but I wouldn't call it the ultimate device to have as that doesn't exist. However it is a great phone no doubt. I'm using the Mate 20 Pro and absolutely love it so my next device would be the Mate 30 Pro.
I had the Pixel 2 XL back in the day and it was an amazing phone. I didn't want to get the 3XL because it seemed like a downgrade. If things get better with the Pixel 4 XL like 4000 mah battery and better body I might give it a try over the Mate 30 Pro. However its going to take a lot to take me away from Huawei now.
I tired many phones and my favorite two are Mate 20 Pro and Pixel 2 XL
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I have not tried p30 pro or mate 20 pro but had p20 pro. I purchased p20 pro after DxO mark gave it high score in camea but to be hoenst camera was big disappointment especially when taking photos of human faces, children, moving object etc....skin tone was like as if its oil painting ..very artificial looking and this was when Master AI feature was turned off ..Camera was great for static object and low light photography . It was downgrade from pixel 2 ..now I don't trust DxO mark thats why did not went for mate 20 pro or p30 pro because they got very much same score ..They no doubt offer great package but I still have some doubt about camera and software but I will take Huawei flagship over Samsung any day

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What about OnePlus 6T? You can toss in the Google Pixel Camera and the photo quality is surprisingly good. OxygenOS is not my cup of tea but it's pretty close to stock plus there's a lot of Rom support and development.
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Oneplus 6T is probably my second best after pixel/ios when we consider software experience but camera is still not among top and I am looking forward what Oneplus 7 bring in few days . If its camera prove to be as good as pixel 3 and bring strero speaker then I will take it without any hesitation ..Its better to buy oneplus phone as brand new because they hold their value unlike others flagship

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Oneplus 6T is probably my second best after pixel/ios when we consider software experience but camera is still not among top and I am looking forward what Oneplus 7 bring in few days . If its camera prove to be as good as pixel 3 and bring strero speaker then I will take it without any hesitation ..Its better to buy oneplus phone as brand new because they hold their value unlike others flagship
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I've been very happy with my 2 XL since its release, but since I'm on T-Mobile, I'm seriously looking at the OnePlus 7 Pro. It looks like a great phone at a great price, plus it supports 600 MHz and 5G.

Better in term of specs or user experience?
5G is coming coverage or support is very small for now. I am waiting for Pixel XL 5 or 6 to replace my current P2XL.
As long as Google is updating, I am not replacing my phone
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JimSmith94 said:
I've been very happy with my 2 XL since its release, but since I'm on T-Mobile, I'm seriously looking at the OnePlus 7 Pro. It looks like a great phone at a great price, plus it supports 600 MHz and 5G.
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Share your experience with us once you get your hand on oneplus 7 pro
Reviews suggesting that camera is still weak point of oneplus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWLD3064Ng

mxmarcus said:
Better in term of specs or user experience?
5G is coming coverage or support is very small for now. I am waiting for Pixel XL 5 or 6 to replace my current P2XL.
As long as Google is updating, I am not replacing my phone
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I don't care about latest specs to be honest but camera , battery and great sound is my priority ..I like stock and close to stock software as well . rest I don't care ram is 4GB or 6/8GB and whther its running SD 835 or 845/855 etc because they hardly make any difference in real life experience except feeling good factor of having latest and greatest

Rajaasim1980 said:
Share your experience with us once you get your hand on oneplus 7 pro
Reviews suggesting that camera is still weak point of oneplus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWLD3064Ng
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I'm not much of a photographer so the camera doesn't matter much to me. I'm thinking now that I'll wait to see what the Pixel 4 XL and the OnePlus 7 Pro 5G look like before I decide what or if I'll switch.

I've had the mate 20 pro and mi 8 since my pixel last year and guess what I've bought again. Yes the pixel 2 xl

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I've had the mate 20 pro and mi 8 since my pixel last year and guess what I've bought again. Yes the pixel 2 xl
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There are few things which bother me about pixel 2 XL
1) speaker is nice when playing music /youtube but is low during video call on WhatsApp, skype etc ..earpiece/mic quality is also average. Call quality of iphone xr was another level
2) brightness is not great and often i need to drag brightness slider to 90 percent when brightness of samsung and even cheap redmi note series was more than enough at 40/50 percent

I disagree with the brightness , mine is on par with the other phones I've had...
Loudspeaker quality you could always root and tinker with XML files

sutty86 said:
I disagree with the brightness , mine is on par with the other phones I've had...
Loudspeaker quality you could always root and tinker with XML files
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It might be on par with other phones you've had but that doesn't mean it's not low. It's only rated at a max of 483 nits when other phones are double that at max auto brightness.
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EeZeEpEe said:
It might be on par with other phones you've had but that doesn't mean it's not low. It's only rated at a max of 483 nits when other phones are double that at max auto brightness.
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I have turned adaptive brightness off because it was always more dark than my taste
I think behaviour of brightness slider have been changed after pie update because it get bright only when drag slider all the way to right side at 80 percent indoor and at 90/95 percent outdoor

Rajaasim1980 said:
I have turned adaptive brightness off because it was always more dark than my taste
I think behaviour of brightness slider have been changed after pie update because it get bright only when drag slider all the way to right side at 80 percent indoor and at 90/95 percent outdoor
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Yes the brightness slider became linear with Android Pie.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...c-brightness-slider-introduced-android-p-dp3/
So 50% on the slider is truly 50% of what the screen is capable of. So for the Pixel 2 XL it should be around 242 nits. And for something like a Samsung S9+ or S10+, 50% should be around 500+ nits since they have a max 1000+ nits rating.
For me, adaptive brightness does fine. Goes to 100% in bright outdoors and is bright enough indoors and low enough for low light. The idea is you're supposed to make adjustments to your liking and eventually you don't have to make them anymore. I "calibrate" mine by putting my phone to 0% when in pitch black. After that it's fine for me in all lighting conditions.
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Pixel 3 or 3 XL?

I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?

The XL has a nicer Samsung screen. The 3's screen is an LG.

Quasar83 said:
I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
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I use the Pixel 3 XL, when I saw the Pixel 3 it looked too small for me, though for some people that can be a good matter. I think both screens are at an equal fighting ground For more context the the larger one uses a Samsung OLED panel, while the smaller one uses and LG OLED panel. The colors appear to maybe pop a little more on smaller one, however the larger one has a more true to life panel. I like the screen screen on my Pixel 3 XL it does look a little warmer than cooler. Hiding the notch is so easy and I think Google did it the best way because the top partially virtual bezel looks equivalent to the bottom. Nearly all apps mostly work with that, very rarely the UI looks weird these days. I get 5 hours screen on time with around 20ish left on a average day. Battery life should improve over time, I must warn you the bloody ide drain is ridiculous and to correct I only found by using scripts.

Thank you for responding. Maybe it's best to buy the XL and just hide the notch.

Quasar83 said:
Thank you for responding. Maybe it's best to buy the XL and just hide the notch.
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Go for the Xl. Better battery and nicer overall. I think it's also had more development as far as ROMs.
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RagedElimanator said:
I must warn you the bloody ide drain is ridiculous and to correct I only found by using scripts.
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Any chance you'd be interested in PMing me those scripts. I'm coming from an LG V20 and it was a pretty mediocre phone but it's idle drain was phenomenal. Lowest I've been able to get my 3XL is 1.7% so far.
I concur on the XL over the regular version. Unless you specifically want a phone that is smaller and like to use it 1 handed then the battery life alone is worth the XL. The screen is better on the XL but it's not night and day difference and is not that noticeable

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Any chance you'd be interested in PMing me those scripts. I'm coming from an LG V20 and it was a pretty mediocre phone but it's idle drain was phenomenal. Lowest I've been able to get my 3XL is 1.7% so far.
I concur on the XL over the regular version. Unless you specifically want a phone that is smaller and like to use it 1 handed then the battery life alone is worth the XL. The screen is better on the XL but it's not night and day difference and is not that noticeable
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Check the forums for Blackened Mod, and to further elaborate I just mean that with these scripts, I drain 2%-3% over night I have not calculated per hour metrics.

Still 3 XL in 2020?
Came across a very good offer for Pixel 3XL and don't know what to do...
I had 2 XL and enjoyed it tremendously. Gave it to my wife, since her Gemini Pro died.
Bought used Note 9, but I couldn't get used to it - somehow....
Why the hell I couldn't synchronise S Notes data, with my computer, why Samsung ditched support for nearby places in dialer, why the hell Galaxy Watch needs so many permissions, why Galaxy watch plugin draining the battery - on Samsung device (!), bad BT range on Note 9, etc...
I ended up with the project to replace all stock apps with Google ones and had double of most of them. I found out that when you integrate most of the Google services, than the battery is not that good anymore. I ended up selling it.
Since I am used to Google services and I use them also on my computer, the Pixel line is the only good choice, I think - but I might be wrong...
I need:
Exceptional Camera, Google Photos backup in original resolution, wide phablet, not so tall, decent speed (I don't play games), good battery (Blackened Mod ???), reasonable amount of storage (128 GB?), front stereo speakers, monthly security updates and: I know that I can expect system updates to Android 11 and 12....
More demanding stuff will be only Office, Acad and that sort of app...
I am not planning to spent 1000 EUR on 4XL, 2XL costed me that much back then....
.... Maybe Oneplus 7T (it has an average camera...don't like it + an issue of not saving videos in appropriate format to use them elsewhere)??
What do you guys think?

Gregzi said:
Still 3 XL in 2020?
Came across a very good offer for Pixel 3XL and don't know what to do...
I had 2 XL and enjoyed it tremendously. Gave it to my wife, since her Gemini Pro died.
Bought used Note 9, but I couldn't get used to it - somehow....
Why the hell I couldn't synchronise S Notes data, with my computer, why Samsung ditched support for nearby places in dialer, why the hell Galaxy Watch needs so many permissions, why Galaxy watch plugin draining the battery - on Samsung device (!), bad BT range on Note 9, etc...
I ended up with the project to replace all stock apps with Google ones and had double of most of them. I found out that when you integrate most of the Google services, than the battery is not that good anymore. I ended up selling it.
Since I am used to Google services and I use them also on my computer, the Pixel line is the only good choice, I think - but I might be wrong...
I need:
Exceptional Camera, Google Photos backup in original resolution, wide phablet, not so tall, decent speed (I don't play games), good battery (Blackened Mod ???), reasonable amount of storage (128 GB?), front stereo speakers, monthly security updates and: I know that I can expect system updates to Android 11 and 12....
More demanding stuff will be only Office, Acad and that sort of app...
I am not planning to spent 1000 EUR on 4XL, 2XL costed me that much back then....
.... Maybe Oneplus 7T (it has an average camera...don't like it + an issue of not saving videos in appropriate format to use them elsewhere)??
What do you guys think?
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The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.

Go with the XL
Pixel 3 has better in hand feel, built a little sleeker and is a great phone. The battery was the deal-breaker for me. My 3 XL gave me drastically better battery life, so much better that I'm ignoring the hideous notch. They say you get over it but I never really did. I do like the edge to edge display though. The difference in battery makes me strongly recommend the XL.
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I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
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RagedElimanator said:
The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
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I was even thinking about the 7 Pro, all sorts of things were crossing my mind...
But after reading This, I think that 3XL will better suit my needs.
Oneplus are great devices but as that guy said: Pixel line has "a little magic" over everything else...
The 3XL is on its way here, managed to get it for less than 400 EUR - open box and tested only....Will see if I made a mistake when it arrives...

RagedElimanator said:
The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
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Apparently you missed the exceptional camera part lol

OK I got the 3XL 64GB .for 370 EUR (someone tested it and returned it back to the Shop) practically new, hadn't found a single micro scratch
First impressions vey positive, no issues whatsoever, battery health OK (98%).:good:
I think that his phone is still a good buy in the middle of 2020, especially since it is the last Pixel with unlimited photo storage for original photo resolution until 2022
I am easily getting 6 hours of SOT, AOD included, full stock, unrooted.

Bought used 3XL. Great device for the money that it cost at the moment. Even with a notch

I can get the 64gig version brand new from sprint for $300 plus tax to buy it outright.
I'm sure this would be a huge upgrade from my LG G6,
Is it still worth it for this price??????
I considered the 4xl when it was on sale for 600, but I really like the fingerprint sensor over face unlock