Question P6/P weights - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Hey gang,
I'm trying to figure out if the PRO version is worth the extra 3 bills, coming up with the pros n cons for each.
According to Google, there is only a 3g difference between the two: 207g vs 210g.
P6P seems to be par for the course, but the regular P6 is pretty heavy for its size

The pros and cons have been already discussed all day long, in various forums, to various length 'n degrees. Not sure what kind of informations you are looking for.
There has never been a bigger difference in specs between two Google devices of the same generation. It's a no brainer. Go for the P6 Pro or look for another phone manufacturer. The "smaller" P6 is lacking so much, it's not worth the pricetag.
Back in the days when we had a "real" small Pixel, that size difference could have been an argument. But now that the "ordinary" P6 is as big as the previous XL models, and the Pro is only 5mm bigger than it's smaller sibling... that argument falls out the window.
The only reason I can come up with and respect (making a choice between the two in favor of the P6) are the colors. The pro colors are a joke. Dull, strange, sad. Milkish, grayish abominations.
The colors available for the smaller P6 are much better.
Other than that...

dnaL0R said:
Hey gang,
I'm trying to figure out if the PRO version is worth the extra 3 bills, coming up with the pros n cons for each.
According to Google, there is only a 3g difference between the two: 207g vs 210g.
P6P seems to be par for the course, but the regular P6 is pretty heavy for its size
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Actually the P6P Dimensions seem look like Galaxy S21 Ultra
S21 Ultra 227g
Pixel 6 P 210g
I think that not bad

Morgrain said:
The pros and cons have been already discussed all day long, in various forums, to various length 'n degrees. Not sure what kind of informations you are looking for.
There has never been a bigger difference in specs between two Google devices of the same generation. It's a no brainer. Go for the P6 Pro or look for another phone manufacturer. The "smaller" P6 is lacking so much, it's not worth the pricetag.
Back in the days when we had a "real" small Pixel, that size difference could have been an argument. But now that the "ordinary" P6 is as big as the previous XL models, and the Pro is only 5mm bigger than it's smaller sibling... that argument falls out the window.
The only reason I can come up with and respect (making a choice between the two in favor of the P6) are the colors. The pro colors are a joke. Dull, strange, sad. Milkish, grayish abominations.
The colors available for the smaller P6 are much better.
Other than that...
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Well, for some it's actually hard to justify extra 300 bucks to pay for the pro. 120/90 hz screen, thicker bezels and zoom camera? Is it really worth it? For some yes, for some absolotely not. Definitely Pro is not a no brainer.

boober78 said:
Well, for some it's actually hard to justify extra 300 bucks to pay for the pro. 120/90 hz screen, thicker bezels and zoom camera? Is it really worth it? For some yes, for some absolotely not. Definitely Pro is not a no brainer.
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Is the new super res zoom available also on the base P6 or just on the zoom lens of the 6 Pro?

boober78 said:
Well, for some it's actually hard to justify extra 300 bucks to pay for the pro. 120/90 hz screen, thicker bezels and zoom camera? Is it really worth it? For some yes, for some absolotely not. Definitely Pro is not a no brainer.
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If those were the only reasons, then yes 300 extra bucks wouldn't be a no brainer.
But... pro Pixel 6 PRO vs Pixel 6
- QHD vs FHD (1440x3120 vs 1080x2400 pixels | 512ppi vs 411 ppi)
- 120HZ vs 90 HZ
- LTPO panel tech (basically VRR; adaptive display tech (it's an Apple patent, by the way) - can lower display down to 10hz to conserve massive amount of energy, the small P6 doesn't have that - BIG reason)
- 5003 mAh vs. 4614 mAh
- 12GB RAM vs 8 GB RAM (50% is a heckload, especially for future proofing - just remember the P3 and all those apps closing in the background after you had only 3 open)
- bigger storage (512 in US, 256 in other regions, most countries don't even have Pixel 6 non pro with more than 128 GB)​
- Periscope telecam -> 4optical+20digital zoom vs 7digital zoom)
- better selfie cam (11,1 MP vs 8MP | 4K + wider angle (94 vs. 84 degrees) vs. FullHD 30FPS (not even 60))
- smaller bezels
- faster wireless charging speed (23w vs 21w)
- UWB (only pro has it, only god knows why the smaller P6 doesn't have it) - UWB is a next gen communication protocol, a bit like NFC, but much stronger. Is being used to unlock cars, doors etc.
- rear glass panel is also made out of Gorilla Glass Victus (p6 only has front Victus, back in Gorilla Glass 6)
- Higher quality material for the phone chassie -> tougher, more durable
- supports mmWave naturally (P6 special version with mmWave is more expensive and costs 100 bucks more)
- There are also differences in the camera tech, I dont remember precisely from Googles event, but the P6 pro can do more modi and higher FPS modes concerning shooting a video whilst zooming in or using ultrawide)
ONLY EUROPE - It should also be noted that the difference in Europe is "only" 250 € between the P6 and the P6 pro (649 € vs. 899 €), not 300 $ like in the US. That makes the choice even easier.
Concerning the bezels and the material - the P6 Pro just "feels" much more premium than the P6. Some might even say "is" - but let's leave it at feel. That alone is worth money. Judge it for yourself. Here is a screenshot attached to emphasize on that argument:
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And that's not even all of it.
There are so many reasons, it's almost ridiculous. Google was once known to release two devices with similar tech, only difference in size and battery - now?
Lol.

Delete. Mistakenly made new post instead of editing old one.

Of course the PRO version will be better, but shelling out 50% more for it is not a no-brainer, at least to me. We can all make our own decisions to see if the upgrades justifies the $300 price premium. To each their own.
My real question or what I was looking to figure out was why the weights of these two phones is nearly identical. I'd think the ~500mAh increase in battery size alone would be more than 3 grams.

dnaL0R said:
Of course the PRO version will be better, but shelling out 50% more for it is not a no-brainer, at least to me. We can all make our own decisions to see if the upgrades justifies the $300 price premium. To each their own.
My real question or what I was looking to figure out was why the weights of these two phones is nearly identical. I'd think the ~500mAh increase in battery size alone would be more than 3 grams.
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Well, both the assembly and disassembly videos of the P6 and P6 Pro have been leaked a couple of weeks ago. I'd suggest to watch these to see why there is only a marginal weight difference. It probably comes down to the number of brackets used to cover stuff up because the P6 lacks some of the P6 Pros hardware, but in the end it's a question only Google can answer. Or someone that took the phone apart and weighed every single part.

Morgrain said:
If those were the only reasons, then yes 300 extra bucks wouldn't be a no brainer.
But... pro Pixel 6 PRO vs Pixel 6
- QHD vs FHD (1440x3120 vs 1080x2400 pixels | 512ppi vs 411 ppi)
- 120HZ vs 90 HZ
- LTPO panel tech (basically VRR; adaptive display tech (it's an Apple patent, by the way) - can lower display down to 10hz to conserve massive amount of energy, the small P6 doesn't have that - BIG reason)
- 5003 mAh vs. 4614 mAh
- 12GB RAM vs 8 GB RAM (50% is a heckload, especially for future proofing - just remember the P3 and all those apps closing in the background after you had only 3 open)
- bigger storage (512 in US, 256 in other regions, most countries don't even have Pixel 6 non pro with more than 128 GB)​
- Periscope telecam -> 4optical+20digital zoom vs 7digital zoom)
- better selfie cam (11,1 MP vs 8MP | 4K + wider angle (94 vs. 84 degrees) vs. FullHD 30FPS (not even 60))
- smaller bezels
- faster wireless charging speed (23w vs 21w)
- UWB (only pro has it, only god knows why the smaller P6 doesn't have it) - UWB is a next gen communication protocol, a bit like NFC, but much stronger. Is being used to unlock cars, doors etc.
- rear glass panel is also made out of Gorilla Glass Victus (p6 only has front Victus, back in Gorilla Glass 6)
- Higher quality material for the phone chassie -> tougher, more durable
- supports mmWave naturally (P6 special version with mmWave is more expensive and costs 100 bucks more)
- There are also differences in the camera tech, I dont remember precisely from Googles event, but the P6 pro can do more modi and higher FPS modes concerning shooting a video whilst zooming in or using ultrawide)
ONLY EUROPE - It should also be noted that the difference in Europe is "only" 250 € between the P6 and the P6 pro (649 € vs. 899 €), not 300 $ like in the US. That makes the choice even easier.
Concerning the bezels and the material - the P6 Pro just "feels" much more premium than the P6. Some might even say "is" - but let's leave it at feel. That alone is worth money. Judge it for yourself. Here is a screenshot attached to emphasize on that argument:
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And that's not even all of it.
There are so many reasons, it's almost ridiculous. Google was once known to release two devices with similar tech, only difference in size and battery - now?
Lol.
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Calm down. The panel, I mentioned. The resolution is negligible, really. 2 W charging speed faster, worth mentioning . Yes, the battery I agree, may be quite a difference in terms of SOT. 250 EUR is 290 USD mate, so we can throw that one out also. For some people, all of these you mention, are definitely not worth spending the extra juice. That's the reality. There is no confirmation that the chassis is better materials in the Pro, some sources say it's stainless steel, some don't. Google needs to confirm.
Google needed to position premium and affordable device. That came with a cost. Their sales plummeted, Pixel 5 sales is -78% vs P4. I assume P6 will sell better than P6 pro.

Gotta pay to play, no doubt, but for some, it may not be worth $300 extra.
Re the weights, I'll check out the teardown vid to see what kinda fillers google put inside the regular P6, haha.

dnaL0R said:
Gotta pay to play, no doubt, but for some, it may not be worth $300 extra.
Re the weights, I'll check out the teardown vid to see what kinda fillers google put inside the regular P6, haha.
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And for others, it won't be worth the $300 savings to be unable to type because its not a wide enough screen.

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UMI Rome MT6753 5.5 Inch Octa Core 2500 mAh 13MP Back Camera Sony IMX164 Only $99.99
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Highlights of UMI Rome:
-5.5 Inch HD AMOLED Screen,1920*1080 Pixel,
-153.8*77*7.9mm
-MT6753 1.3GHz 64bit Octa Core
-3GB RAM + 16GB ROM
-13MP Back Camera Sony IMX164 + 2MP Front Camera
-2500mAh Battery
-Android 5.1 System
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UMi Rome Is A $99 Smartphone With MT6753 & 3GB of RAM
UMi is known for making value for money smartphones and this is evident from its recent releases like the UMi Iron Pro and the UMi Hammer S. Now, the company is going to take things to a whole new level with its brand new device, called as the UMi Rome. This latest release from the company will bring the best specifications that we have seen on a phone under $100.
The UMi Rome will feature the fast MT6753 octa-core chip clocked at 1.3GHz. This is the same chip that powers most other mid-range flagships in the market under $200. Along with the powerful processor, the company has included 3GB of RAM. Yes, you heard it right! The phone will indeed feature 3GB of RAM with 16GB of internal storage to make sure that you no longer have to settle for slow smartphones at a budget price.
As for the display, the UMi Rome will feature a large 5.5-inch screen with 1280 x 720p resolution. With this display, you are sure to enjoy watching movies and playing games on the device. At the back, there will be a 13MP Sony IMX164 sensor with dual LED flash. What makes the UMi Rome even more interesting is the presence of an LED flash up front aiding its 2MP shooter. It will surely attract a lot of selfie lovers to this device.
The phone is also pretty compact, measuring just 7.9mm in thickness. Inside this body, you get a 2500mah battery that's large enough to last an entire day. Finally, the Rome will run on the Android 5.1 Lollipop OS.
As you can see, these are great specs for a phone that costs just $99.99. In fact, this budget device can take on the so called flagships like Cubot X15 and Ulefone Paris in a number of areas.
3GB RAM + 16GB ROM, $99.99, really?
The IMX164 is an 8mp senso. So the 13mp is an interpolation.
i saw some real pictures here:
but it seems not at $99.
Looks like a cross between an iPhone and an Elephone P8000.
UMi Rome Is A $99 Smartphone With MT6753 & 3GB of RAM
UMi is known for making value for money smartphones and this is evident from its recent releases like the UMi Iron Pro and the UMi Hammer S. Now, the company is going to take things to a whole new level with its brand new device, called as the UMi Rome. This latest release from the company will bring the best specifications that we have seen on a phone under $100.
The UMi Rome will feature the fast MT6753 octa-core chip clocked at 1.3GHz. This is the same chip that powers most other mid-range flagships in the market under $200. Along with the powerful processor, the company has included 3GB of RAM. Yes, you heard it right! The phone will indeed feature 3GB of RAM with 16GB of internal storage to make sure that you no longer have to settle for slow smartphones at a budget price.
As for the display, the UMi Rome will feature a large 5.5-inch screen with 1280 x 720p resolution. With this display, you are sure to enjoy watching movies and playing games on the device. At the back, there will be a 13MP Sony IMX164 sensor with dual LED flash. What makes the UMi Rome even more interesting is the presence of an LED flash up front aiding its 2MP shooter. It will surely attract a lot of selfie lovers to this device.
The phone is also pretty compact, measuring just 7.9mm in thickness. Inside this body, you get a 2500mah battery that's large enough to last an entire day. Finally, the Rome will run on the Android 5.1 Lollipop OS.
As you can see, these are great specs for a phone that costs just $99.99. In fact, this budget device can take on the so called flagships like Cubot X15 and Ulefone Paris in a number of areas.
What can offer a smartphone for $ 89 nowadays?
Over the past few weeks we have seen Chinese phone makers release phones for under $100, some for as little as $70. And for the money they have all looked pretty good, but as prices creep lower so does the amount of RAM available in them.
The answer gives you the UMi Rome , with the design, features and price, this phone could be one of the most affordable smartphone .
UMi Rome has 5.5 AMLED "HD 2,5D display and MediaTek MT6753 octa-core 1.3GHz SoC, well 3 GB of RAM , 16 GB of internal memory , Battery 2,500 mAh and Lollipop Android 5.1 pre-installed. The phone has the intricate CNC’d chassis visible around the edges of the device.
Impossible not to notice how the rear and the lower frame with speaker and micro-USB socket of the device then are guided by Galaxy Note 5 (also the shape of the camera is almost identical), although in the render below the similarity is slightly less marked.
Umi Rome was priced at $ 90. At this price these parameters look great.
As anyone else bought this phone? I'm having some difficulties with it..
Bad touch sensitivity, and LED notification does not work
I have bought it.Should arrive today
Is it true that the phone has no amoled display as promissed?
Shindy1 said:
I have bought it.Should arrive today
Is it true that the phone has no amoled display as promissed?
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It do have AMOLED screen.
Made the test with a black screen pic?
tasanhalas said:
As anyone else bought this phone? I'm having some difficulties with it..
Bad touch sensitivity, and LED notification does not work
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Hy,,if you want led notification you have to install the flash alert 2 apps, where you can turn on the front or the back flash
jozsi86 said:
Hy,,if you want led notification you have to install the flash alert 2 apps, where you can turn on the front or the back flash
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Hi, thanks for the suggestion! The apps I tried didn't allow front flash, so I quit trying. That one works
How is with baterry life ?
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jozsi86 said:
Hy,,if you want led notification you have to install the flash alert 2 apps, where you can turn on the front or the back flash
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Umi rome have 2 point touch and led notification doesn't work on it.
Unboxing & First Hands-on
Full Review
Camera Samples:
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/ka033r6zc3s64/UMI_Rome_Camera_Samples
Geekbench 3 battery test:
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Temperature Check:
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AMOLED Panel - Model Name: E555HBM2
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UMI Rome short review
I received an UMI Rome today and made a lot of tests of it and I must say that even for $110 I’m rather disappointed. Here are some of my early findings.
Build quality
The build quality is ok for the price. The phone feels rather solid and weighs 183 grams with screen protector on. But it’s thick and it also feels rather thick and clumsy in the hand. The specs from UMI say 7.9 mm which is a lie even if I measure beside the protruding camera. Beside the camera it’s 9 mm thick and over the camera it’s 10.4 mm. Too thick in my opinion. Also the buttons on the side rattles a bit and feels a bit ”cheap”.
Display
It’s no AMOLED display as far as I can see. On the contrary it seems to be a rather mediocre LCD HD 1280x720 display with not so good viewing angles and a lot of light leakage at the top of the display. If it’s really an AMOLED I wonder how it can have that much light leakage at the top? It’s also no real 2.5D display. The glass has slightly rounded edges but that doesn’t make it 2.5D when there is so much borders on the sides of the display. It just looks 2.5D when the screen is off. The aspect ratio between actual screen and the rest of the front is very good though. The worst downside of the screen is perhaps that it only has a 2-point digitizer. It’s many years since even the cheapest smart phones on the market started to have 5-point touch displays. Really bad. Also the screen has very bad touch sensitivity but probably it gets a bit better if I remove the screen protector.
Radio reception
All radios are suffering from very bad reception. I wonder how they managed to build such a large phone with so bad antennas? The wifi signal is generally 20 dB lower in WiFi Analyzer in the Rome than in my cheap MT6735 reference phone. Also the 4G download speed is low. In Ookla Speedtest I get below 30 Mb/s download speed and below 8 Mb/s upload speed on the same spot as I get 100/40 Mb/s in the MT6735 reference device. The max speed in my 4G network is 100/100 Mb/s on LTE B20. I think the modem in MT6753 is capable of 150 Mb/s download speed and therefor I draw the conclusion that the reception in the Rome is very bad due to bad antennas. Also the GPS reception is very bad. There is no way that I can get a fix inside whereas the MT6735 reference gets a fix in only a few seconds. Even outside it takes a long time to first fix. Seems like antenna problems again. I almost wonder if there’s some production error in my Rome, if all the antennas are wrongly or badly connected somehow? I haven’t tried the BT yet but I suspect that it suffers from the same problem.
Performance
In AnTuTu V6 I get a score of 37,500 which is ok I think. The Mali-T720 GPU in the MT6753 is relatively fast and therefor even most 3D games runs ok. Especially since the GPU only has to drive a HD display. In Geekbench 3 the multi-core score is also ok at 2,900. However, it’s the single-core score that really counts in my opinion and that score is quite low at 620. The low single-core score is reflected in the Sunspider 1.0.2 java test. The Rome needs almost 1200 ms to finish that test with the stock browser. It’s not fair to compare with my $800 iPhone 6S but the 6S finishes the same test almost 6 times faster. One good thing I’ve noticed with all MT6753 devices is that they don’t overheat like the miserable MT6752 SoC does in all devices that I have tested. 5 minutes of HD video in YouTube over WiFi only brings the highest monitored temp in CPU-Z to less than 45°C, whereas the MT6752 easily reaches 70°C.
Cameras
The main camera is quite good but only 8 MP (IMX164 confirmed) interpolated to 13. The photos looks natural in colour and whitebalance, unlike the photos from UMI Hammer 5" for example. Setting the camera resolution to the true resolution, 8 MP in this case, seems to make the photos sharper and better. Maybe because the interpolation mess up the photos. The front camera is a rather bad GC2355 fixed focus 2 MP camera. Maybe good enough for video calls but definitely not good enough for the users who wants to take selfies.
Root
This is the greatest strength of this and other UMI phones. The phone comes pre-rooted with just a flick of a switch. Also SuperSU is already there as soon as you activate developer options and unlock the bootloader. Many thanks to UMI for the initiative to sell the phones pre-rooted (maybe depending on which version of Rome it is for different markets?). Also the Rootjoy PC software deserves a lot of cred even though there’s no other firmware available for the Rome yet (and might never be?).
Software
The phone comes totally free from bloatware. No Chinese crapware and not much gapps crap. Again UMI should have a lot of cred for that I think. All there is is just a standard Android 5.1 + SuperSU.
I add a few screen dumps below from some of the tests I made. If I make any new observations worth sharing I will add them in edits below the original post.
MacArthur67 said:
I received an UMI Rome today and made a lot of tests of it and I must say that even for $110 I’m rather disappointed. Here are some of my early findings.
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Thanks for the short interview, I found it very useful. Your review reflects most of the issues which people have complained in Umi forum. I also ordered mine around 2 weeks ago, hoping it will be okay for my usage.
Through rootjoy update firmware to v3.03
themathers said:
Thanks for the short interview, I found it very useful. Your review reflects most of the issues which people have complained in Umi forum. I also ordered mine around 2 weeks ago, hoping it will be okay for my usage.
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The phone is ok but not worth the money really. The battery time turns out to be a lot worse than I thought and there is no way that it's real 2500 mAh. I might test the real capacity over a test load just to prove my point. I did that with the UMI Hammer (the 5", not Hammer S) and it turned out that the specs were greatly exaggerated (not to say faked). I found a lot of other small bugs and problems in the Rome also but hopefully some of them will be fixed with firmware upgrades soon.
I think that the Elephone M2 (same SoC) is a lot better buy at 150 USD (what I paid on pre-order in October 2015), which really means a lot because I don't like the Elephone brand.
MacArthur67 said:
The phone is ok but not worth the money really. The battery time turns out to be a lot worse than I thought and there is no way that it's real 2500 mAh. I might test the real capacity over a test load just to prove my point. I did that with the UMI Hammer (the 5", not Hammer S) and it turned out that the specs were greatly exaggerated (not to say faked). I found a lot of other small bugs and problems in the Rome also but hopefully some of them will be fixed with firmware upgrades soon.
I think that the Elephone M2 (same SoC) is a lot better buy at 150 USD (what I paid on pre-order in October 2015), which really means a lot because I don't like the Elephone brand.
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Yea, I received the phone. The build is quite good, but the touch screen quality is quite bad, and camera quality does not do better. It's been one day, so I am still trying to see what I can do to improve. I also got Iron Pro for myself, Rome is for my gf, and Iron Pro is quite good though. Umi does produce a nice design and good build phones, but they should do better with their software. And they should stop using false/hype marketing like big companies, they shouldn't do that with their growing reputation *crossed fingers for new update

Nomu S20 5" HD MT6737 3Gb-32Gb Android 6, IP68, 3000mAh |Info|Reviews|General

Nomu is a new Chinese Brand and chooses Nomu S20 as device name for his first attempt on the market.
Nomu will build three different smartphones, all RUGGED and with different specs S10, S20 and S30.
This is the mid range!
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Android 6.0
MTK6737 Quad Core 64Bit
3GB RAM+ 32GB ROM
5.0'’ HD
3000mAh
Water, Dirt, Scratch, Shock proof IP68
Cameras 13MP and 5MP
Details:
Design
Form factor Candybar
Rugged Water Dust Shock proof
IP grade IP68
Drop test 1.5M
Dimension 145.4×75×10.3 mm
Standby Card "Dual Nano SIM Card(SIM1 default 4G)or Nano SIM+MicroSD
Network mode: FDD&TDD-LTE+WCDMA +GSM"
OS Android 6.0
Display
Physical size 5.0'’ HD(720*1280)On Cell
TP IPS,COF, Capacitive
Built-in Memory "3GB DDR3 (RAM)+ 32GB EMMC (ROM)
"
Battery
Capacity 3000mAh,unreplaceable,Polymer electric core
Camera
Camera Front camera: 2.0MP FF((Interpolation to 5.0MP)
Rear camera: 8.0MP ( Interpolation to 13.0MP )
Technology
Platform MTK6737(64bit Quad-core 1.5GHz), quad core
Network GSM:850/900/1800/1900(B5/B8/B3/B2)
WCDMA:900/2100(B8/B1)
"FDD-LTE:800/900/1800/2100/2600(B20/B8/B3/B1/B7)
TDD-LTE:2300(B40)"
VoLTE Support(Should adjust SW according to each carrier, and need to provide carrier name, country and VoLTE compliance table during adjustment, also if carrier has not been adjusted before by MTK, then MTK has big shipment quantity requirement.
Micro SD card maximum Up to 32GB
Phone features
GPS/Location GPS&APGS+Glonass
WIFI Support WiFi and WiFi Hotspot, 2.4GHz/5GHz
Sensor Gravity sensor, Light&Distance Sensor 2 in1,
Gestures in wake up support
Glove touching Not support
Cradle charging Not support
NFC Not support
Quick charging Support
OTG Support
Speaker 1318mm
Microphone Single
Multimedia
FM Radio Yes (Earphone used as antenna)
Connectivity
Bluetooth 4.0 BLE
Earphone interface 3.5mm(Samsung standard)
Charging data interface Micro 5PIN USB
Standard accessories 1earphone+1 charger+1USB cable+1 built in battery
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Facebook Site: https://www.facebook.com/nomumobile
website: http://nomu.hk/
Price 149-169$
some real pictures, Nomu renamed Pro as S20 :
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Unboxing and Real Use (Italian comment):
This is also an unboxing S20 + S30 from Spain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr6S_NjWxMc
Best in Price Range Rugged Type
Nomu S20 water and dust protection, in addition to a rugged body with IP68 Rating, With Jaw Dropping Price of Just $169 ...... When it comes to specs, the Nomu S20 comes with a 5-inch 720p
HD display, sporting a 13-megapixel rear camera and a 5-megapixel
front-facing camera. Under the hood, this phone comes with the MediaTek MT6737
(that’s a 64-bit Quad-core 1.5GHz) processor, with 3GB of RAM, 32GB of
internal storage and it does also support a micro SD card for expandable
storage for up to 32GB. On the software front, it runs Android 6.0, and
it appears to be running a fairly stock or AOSP version of Android
Marshmallow. Inside there is a 3000mAh non-removable battery, which
should last you all day long, there is also quick charging so you can
quickly top off the Nomu S20 when needed. It also features 4G LTE
support, although support for your carrier’s 4G LTE .... Nomu You Nailed it
Nomu First Global Sale Event is now in progress
Chinese manufacture Nomu is holding their first global sale event now (Oct 20th to Oct 27th). Starting now, you can purchase anymodel of Nomu series for 30 dollars discount. Therefore,the price of Nomu S10, Nomu S20 and Nomu S30 is $99.99, $149.99 and $229.99.
Aside these sales you can also find a giveaway event (Online Fishing Activity) for the iPhone 7 (Plus), Samsung S7 Edge, Nomu smartphones and coupons for Nomu smartphones. The participants only need to fill the email and play the game according to the rules and then they will inform you via email as you win a phone or other prizes.
Check out the detailed rules down blow or visit the activity page: http://promo.nomu.hk/fishing/
Activity Rules:
1. Fill in your email, click the "Continue" Button to join in the contest;
2. Click the bubble, fish, hand or fishing rod to begin;
3. If you get the Smartphone shown on the picture, congratulations, you win it! Just leave your name, email, shipping address and phone number, we'll contact you when the event ends.
4.If you get the bottle, you win a $10 coupon code for Nomu S20 or S30. You can select the product with specific color given and click the logo of e-shop that you want to buy from to get the $10 coupon; Click the logo again to enter the e-shop and use the coupon by placing order. (With the coupon, you can get $10 discounted base on the special price)
5.If you get the fish, watch the promotional video and share it on your social media, you will have another chance to participate in the contest.
6.After joining the activity, you also have another chanceclick the photo and then the "Share" button) to participate in the contest
7. Click the "bucket", you can view what you have got.
8.The fishing activity begins at 16:00 GMT+8, Oct 20th, and ends on Oct 27th, 2016.
All of the model’s specifications of the Nomu series can be found: http://nomu.hk/products
And on top of that we have one video for you to learn about Nomu S30. For more video, check out Nomu YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtyTCLz5Sib7OPBCZw6fU0A
The S10, 20 and 30 series and their IP68 proof video from Nomu:
I want also to share Stock Rom for S20:
NOMU_S20_COMMON_V1.0.2_2016_10_09_FQ5C23WTE1D.XWP.NOMU.M0.HB.H.SM.1009.V3.02
https://mega.nz/#!6RszkazA!_f-P_Fx7F9f9tl4o4ypY9b7dEFxOplf60au1XFJtK4M
TWRP 3.0.2-1 :
https://mega.nz/#!7JVFDYaL!yxZirE674p9gIotxLyT27v1vLOx-ss7yIKGShsO_u-A
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Nomu special video collection: http://bit.ly/2eFJJwa
Nomu Display hardness test video: http://bit.ly/2ekX9Nf
Nomu water-proof test: http://bit.ly/2fopqTU
Site: www.nomu.hk
And here's freeze test!
http://bit.ly/2fCa6ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltgVv1NlQS8
The 10/20/30 are all fantastic phones, a real difficult decision as to which one to purchase.
The decision for me was a no brainer....NONE OF THEM.
Yup, they didn't include the Notification LED.
Nuf said...............................
Four water-proof phones you'll want right now
Lots of people tells you electronics and water cannot mix. If you work outdoors, tired of being afraid of having something spilt on your precious phone; or you just want to Tweet while you shower. Whatever the reason, an IP67/IP68 rating smartphone should be at the top of your shopping list. The following are 4 waterproof smartphones I would recommend.
iPhone7/7 Plus
Although iPhone7/7 Plus almost looks like the same as iPhone6s/6s Plus except for adding two new colors and redesigning back antenna, there are still some new impressing features. Aside from iPhone 7 Plus coming with dual rear cameras for the first time, what appeals to me is that iPhone7/7 Plus finally come with IP67 rating water and dust resistant which allow for briefly dunking in the water. Besides, iPhone7/7 Plus come with the most powerful specs especially the A10 processor that is almost twice as fast as iPhone6s/6s Plus. It is safe to say iPhone7/7 Plus is one the best smartphones in the world. When you are looking for a smartphone with water and dust resistance, taking iPhone7/7 Plus into account is reasonable.
Galaxy S7 Edge
Samsung made Galaxy S5 feature IP67 2 years ago, and now Galaxy S7 Edge is also IP68 dust and water proof (30 minutes in water over 1.5 m deep). As the best android smartphone after Galaxy note 7 suffered its disastrous failure, not only is Galaxy S7 Edge equipped with high-end specs but also has the gorgeous appearance with the edge to edge AMOLED display and a metal body, but also the performance of its cameras is very likely to be the best of all the smartphones including iPhone7/7 Plus. Galaxy S7 Edge definitely deserves being considered by everyone who is into Android phones.
Sony Xperia XZ
Sony Xperia XZ as the latest addition to their flagship X family features the general rectangular slab-like design, with glass up front, an all metal back plate, and of course, an IP68 rating for resistance to dust and water. In terms of specs, Xperia XZ comes with a 5.2-inch IPS LCD display, Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor, 3GB of RAM and 32 GB or 64 GB of on-board storage, 23 MP rear and 5 MP front cameras, bears 2,900*mAh battery which is good enough for a full day of use. This device is priced at $699 which is in the same price range as Galaxy Note 7, I would say the price is a bit high, but if you want a high-end smartphone with IP68 rating and you don’t like Galaxy S7 Edge, then you can’t ignore Sony Xperia XZ.
Nomu S20
After introducing 3 high-end flagships, now I am going to recommend a budget rugged phone named Nomu S20 which comes with a 5-inch HD display, 8MP rear and 5MP front cameras. Under the hood, this phone comes with MediaTek quad-core 4G LTE processor, 3GB of RAM, 32GB of ROM and is packed with 3000*mA battery along with a fast charging feature. Nomu S20 has IP68 rating just like Galaxy S7 Edge, but unlike those three above, Nomu S20 is a professional rugged phone. It is able to survive a drop from 1.5 meter height, which those high-end flagships are too fragile to survive. Also, -20℃ to 55℃ working temperature range allows you to use it in most of the places you can imagine. You can feel free to use this handset without worrying in the most unexpected conditions. What’s more, $169.99 price point make it the most affordable waterproof smartphone. If you do not have hundreds of dollar to spend, maybe Nomu S20 is a good choice for you.
Nomu website: http://bit.ly/2f7gaUV
Official FB: http://bit.ly/2fB6RBa
jerzyjerzy said:
Four water-proof phones you'll want right now
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iPhone 7+ - IP67 - Not Mil Spec-810G - 2900mAh - Notification LED - Locked down.
Galaxy S7 - IP68 - Not Mil Spec-810G - 3600mAh - Notification LED - Locked down.
Xperia XZ - IP65 - Not Mil Spec-810G - 2900mAh - Notification LED - Locked down.
Nomu S20 - IP68 - Not Mil Spec-810G - 3000mAh - NO Notification LED - Locked down
CAT S60 - IP68 - Mil STD-810G - 3800mAh - Notification LED - Locked down - FLIR Camera
Nomu S20/Xperia XZ/Galaxy S7/iPhone 7 comparison:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/e71d9cf7c
The Nomu S10 and S30 both have 5000mAh batteries.
You forgot the Cat S60 with the FLIR camera....FLIR camera, now how cool is that!
It also is a true IP68, it can go down to 15 Ft for 30 minutes, that is a true IP68 rating, not this 3 feet for 30 min that Nonu and Samsung have.....iPhone and Xperia only take a splash, not a dunk, the'e IP67.
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/75203bc3
If you do anything outdoors that relies on GPS, with the screen ON, and listening to music, the bigger the battery the better....for me.
My criteria:
5.5" / 720p / Backlit keys / Notification LED / 4000mAh min / Quad 64bit 2000MHz min OR Octo 64bit 1500MHz min / 2GB RAM DDR3 min / 16GB ROM min / 64GB SDHC/XC / IP68 / Mil STD-810G OR Ruggedized / GPS / Gyro/ Compass / Proximity / Accelerometer / SIM2 3G / Lollipop or lower, I want R00T capability.
Its not that far of a dream the phone I want, the Nomu S30 had it all and then they left out the Notification LED....A phone with some amazing specs and NO Notification LED.....WTF.....
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/b0e73f1b
I will give up 4G, or backlit keys....I won't compramise on the Notification LED.
Well, you mentioned your innermost need of the notification led twice already. I do not need it but please follow your ideal phone.
Please also give us a ballpark price range of the CAT phone when you have a chance. What is it? Like FOUR times the Nomu's price?
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jerzyjerzy said:
Well, you mentioned your innermost need of the notification led twice already. I do not need it but please follow your ideal phone.
Please also give us a ballpark price range of the CAT phone when you have a chance. What is it? Like FOUR times the Nomu's price?
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3X The $$ and 4X the phone. 15 feet deep for ½ Hour!
> FLIR camera .... Fun stuff! I can think of all sorts of places to use it and annoy my girlfriend at the same time.
> MIL-STD-810G
What's annoying about the CAT S60, and prevented me doing the purchase is ...
#1) Battery, Nomu/3800mAh - CAT/3000mAh
#2) Smaller screen, Nomu/5"(on screen keys) - CAT/4.7"
CAT S60 is a solid, robust phone that is weak in the battery department and a step back for me as I have a 5" phone and want to go to a 5.5" phone.
The Nomu S30 was almost perfect, then they missed the Notification LED, what a letdown......
Kinda like, meeting the perfect girl, then she opens her mouth and sounds like Fran Drescher.
so much talking about nice phones from Nomu but you claim to have bought HT20 with the smallest screen. just for Notification light.
HT20 claims 3850 battery and you admit yourself it below 3000.
Moreover Ht20 has serious mic problems and hence waterproof problems if one uses Homtom cure for mic..
BTW you are mistaken Nomu S20 does not have 3800 battery . it is 3000 mAh.
Personally I do not like LED light at night. I do not care for NL. I like t check myself than be bothered by the light
Interesting video for Nomu
There is an very interesting video collection for Nomu, , very impressive, love it so much.
Jonesblake said:
There is an very interesting video collection for Nomu, very impressive, love it so much.
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Yes, it seems that Nomu with his S** Series entered in the market with great devices for the price!
Nomu - Pepsi Cola Mix Mentos Test
jerzyjerzy said:
Nomu - Pepsi Cola Mix Mentos Test
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Though the test is failed, it carries funny style to the video, looking forward to more video come out of Nomu brand.

[Review] Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A Prime: The schoolgirl selfie companion?

Hi there!
Below is adapted from my original review on gadgetvictims.com
Turns out that Redmi 5A Prime is better than expected.
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Xiaomi has just released the Redmi Note 5A priced below 140€.
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Identification
With Xiaomi's plethora of variants under a same model, it is important to start by identifying the product in order to set the expectations right.
Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A Prime
Redmi: regroups the low cost phones as opposed to the Mi, which is more middle range to flagship.
Note: indicates a 5.5" size device (although I've seen 5.5" Mi phones without that denomination).
A: indicates the entry level phones.
Prime: The sample I'm reviewing here is actually the 32GB ROM version of the Prime variant (120€/140$). That suffix is not always mentioned by the shops but has its importance.
The Prime specifications are a notch above the bottom-of-the-low-range with a better chipset (Snapdragon 435 vs 425), more memory (3/32GB vs 2/16GB) and a 16MP selfie camera (vs 5MP). The Prime version also adds a fingerprint sensor. A higher spec. version with 4/64GB is expected soon.
The cheapest non-Prime 16GB version is at 100€/120$.
Key Specification
Display: 5.5-inch, 720 x 1280 pixels (400 ppi pixel density)
Size: 153 x 76.2 x 7.7 mm
Weight: 153 g
Rear camera: 13 MP with AF, f2.2, with LED Flash
Front (Selfie) camera: 16 MP, f2.0, with LED Flash
Storage: 3GB of RAM + 32GB ROM
Chipset: 1.4GHz Qualcomm MSM8940 Snapdragon 435
(Octa-core Cortex-A53 + Adreno 505 GPU)
IR blaster (infra Red cell)
Battery: 3080mAh non-removable
Unpacking and Design
The compact box is just the size of the phone, with some extra depth for the accessories: a charger, a USB cable, a SIM tray extractor pin and a leaflet.
The 5A has a classic design and yet, looks nice, slim and well finished.
Its light weight (153gr) and thinness (7.7mm) makes you regret that no hard case in the box. At least, there quite a good choice of accessories to choose from already.
A long 3-in-1 tray takes 2 nano-SIM's and one MicroSD together.
The micro USB is still used and there's no quick charger although the technology is supported. Using a spare one from Doogee, it took about 1 hour to full charge.
Cameras: "Only" one per side...and that's great news!
Xiaomi does not make any fuss about the camera sensors inside, and honestly, I don't mind if they are from Samsung, Sony or even Omnivision!
The result is far better than most manufacturers trumpeting the latest IMX on-board while ruining it with sub-par software.
The front camera features a LED flash, a resolution of 16.0MP, an aperture of f2.0 and a Phase Detection Auto Focus.
If the advertising illustrations of the product were not clear enough, this phone is targeted at the selfie and ussie takers!
All the expected options are present, including advanced "face beauty" settings, some funny filters, and a face detection that tries to evaluate the gender and age (not always accurate with toys...).
The back camera is "only" a 13MP, f2.2, and (shock horror) there is only one!
And still...it makes all those double-camera models look pathetic in comparison!
For those who expected a double camera just to improve their blur background shots, Google Camera can use the embedded gyroscope to achieve a similar effect, as well as the 360 Photo Sphere shots.
The camera is fast in all aspects: launching, focusing, shooting.
With the appropriate option activated (under Lock screen & password), launching the camera app and taking a shot takes no more than a second!
2x optical zoom means no loss of pixels up to that level, with the digital zoom kicking in afterward, effectively zooming on the existing pixels. The shots below show different level of zoom (0x, 2x and 4x) in low light. (see original review for full size view)
There is a decent set of options, even if they are not always grouped in the most convenient way between options and settings menus.
MIUI 8 and bloatware
The phone came with MIUI 8.5.4 and an OTA update to 8.5.8 was available. It is based on Android Nougat (7.1.2). MIUI 9.0 is due soon after the Golden Week (黄金周) holidays with hopefully, a global ROM.
I used the option to select an alternate home screen to install the excellent Yandex launcher, tried previously with the Bluboo S1.
Where is Google Play?
There is no global ROM yet for the Redmi Note 5A, and since the Chinese ROM does not include Google Play, a bit of DIY is needed to install it and configure the permission and battery saving options.
I first tried a certain Google Installer 2.0 which didn't work for me.
The easiest way has been to restore one a backup made available on miui forum.
As always, MIUI is generous in bloatware, although there's a few worthwhile Mi applications in the lot. A good deal of them can be uninstalled but some useless services, considered as system apps, will remain active.
Fingerprint scanner: lightning fast!
I found most fingerprint scanners to work well and fast enough...until now!
This one reacts just... instantly!
I would have prefered it located at the front, but I'll get use to it. There's simply no way I return to the slower ones!
Performance:
Snapdragon 435 Octa Core 1.4GHz: This chipset is aimed at the mid/low-range market. It may not the fastest one around but it's certainly not sluggish.
The "only" HD but nevertheless excellent IPS screen is a perfect fit for the Snapdragon 435 and the phone works smoothly through any task.
The phone feels much faster in general than its Mediatek counterpart with similar benchmark score (MT6750T).
Geekbench: single core:675 / Multi-core: 2581
Antutu: 45740
HD "only" screen:
The screen is not full HD but [email protected], and yet it's bright and sharp, ideal for reading ebooks, which I tried for a few hours.
There's even a schedulable Reading Mode to reduce the background glare at bed time.
This IPS screen is almost as good as an AMOLED with vibrant colors, deep blacks and excellent contrasts.
The Contrast and Colors under Display also allow to adjust the overall color temperature.
Communications
Phone calls / Sound quality
Sound quality is of tradition with Xiaomi products, and that's even true with their cheapest IP cameras, so no bad surprise here, the sound is crystal-clear during phone calls and the speakers are perfect for voice and can go quite loud without damage for music.
The in-call interface is functional with all the necessary options available.
Networks:
On the mobile data side, 4G is supported but I'm only getting HSPA+, and the easiest way to find out why is to visit frequencycheck.com. In my case, there's very little B3 (1800Hz) coverage in my area.
Wi-Fi reception is good but seems limited to 2.4GHz, although the 5GHz band should be supported by the Snapdragon 425 Processor.
Notification LED (I missed you so much!):
It rings loud (and louder if a call is not answered), it vibrates and, if you miss it, there's even a LED!
Kudos to Xiaomi for not ditching this essential option to spare a few cents!
Battery life
The advertised capacity of the 3080mAh battery is rather modest but probably the actual capacity unlike many competitors.
On the other hand, Qualcomm Snapdragon is well known for its power efficiency and the 435 Octa Core is not the most demanding chipset.
I achieved 24 hours of mixed use with some intensive sessions (all the de-MIUIzation, lots of pictures taken, frequent interaction, benchmarks, ...)
There are many clever optimization options under the Battery & performance menu but I didn't even use the battery saver.
IR Blaster:
The 5A can be used as an IR remote controller. The native Mi Remote application mostly supports the smart home devices from Xiaomi but also some popular brands of TV and set top boxes. However I could not get it work with any device, even my LG TV.
As an alternative, I've installed "Universal TV Remote" from Twinone which works great, even with my old X10 IR relay.
GPS: 20 satellites under 4 seconds...that should do the job.
Conclusion: so, who is that phone for?
On paper, the Xiaomi 5A Prime is inferior to its bigger brothers on almost every aspect: smaller battery, lower pixel density, slower processor, slightly heavier, a bit thicker, ...
My opening title "The schoolgirl selfie companion?" (just a tad bit sarcastic) reflects my opinion before testing this phone.
Now, I realize that the Redmi Note 5A Prime is a silent killer for the competitors in that price range!
The Redmi Note 5A Prime (in 3/32GB) turns out to be a high quality smartphone and if the components are not all the latest and fastest, there's been no compromise on the quality and the cameras are possibly the best available under 150€.
Unlike the very widespread trends amongst entry-level smartphones, the Redmi Note 5A Prime does not make false promises, but delivers exactly what's announced.
The current version is a potential source of frustration for those relying on Google ecosystem, and I can't wait to see a Global Version, with MIUI 9, hopefully very soon, so we won't have to put our hands in the grease anymore.
The 3/32GB Prime variant, priced 119€/139.99$ with coupon JSMTA (expiry date: 2017-10-7) is by far the most sensible choice in the 5A family.
The other variants are:
Redmi Note 5A (not Prime): 100€/120$
There are too many concessions (no fingerprint sensor, smaller front camera, smaller chipset, only 16GB of storage) for almost the same price.
Redmi Note 5A (Prime) "4/64" with 4GB RAM and 64GB of storage: 220€/260$. There are not enough advantages to justify the higher price.
For that budget, look at the Mi 5X/A1 instead!)
SilverBarrel said:
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Xiaomi does not make any fuss about the camera sensors inside, and honestly, I don't mind if they are from Samsung, Sony or even Omnivision!
The result is far better than most manufacturers trumpeting the latest IMX on-board while ruining it with sub-par software.
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There was alot of grumbling that the Redmi Note 4 had different sensors and from what I've seen from the sample pictures, the differences are significant. The OV version was the worst with some weird tint (maybe it was just with the on) but it shows that you cannot ignore the different sensor types. Xiaomi is taking a risk with these sort of low brow bait and switch marketing tactics.
Restore IMEI?
Hi guys, i have an Redmi note 5A which i got with China Rom, and in atempt to flash Global Rom in test point i accidentaly flashed rom from Redmi 5A which lead me to lose the IMEI of the device and i cant sign in into my mi account to unlock bootloader and restore it.. I have flashed the latest China Stable Rom and the China Developer Rom from in EDL mode but that didnt restore my IMEI neither i can log in into my Mi Account..
What can i do?

Moto e5 plus (USA version) review

Hello people, hope you have a great day!!!
So the Moto e5 plus is a budget device as you may know. It has a snapdragon 425 (International) or 435 (USA) and from 2gb(international) to 3gb(USA) of RAM. Internal storage is 32gb and has expandable storage. The screen is a 720p HD+ display with a 18:9 aspect ratio and rounded corners, the phone is also made of glossy plastic. It has a single front firing speaker that doubles as a speaker for calls. The battery is a massive 5,000mah capacity one. Lastly, it runs Android 8.0 (Motorola comfirmed it isn't getting android P tho, but it will still get the security patches).
Ok now for the pros and cons of the phone:
Pros:
1. The 18:9 aspect ratio on a phone like this is amazing, not all budget phones offer such a great feature.
2. The performance in the 435 variant is pretty outstanding. Of course, it isn't meant for gaming so it will suffer a bit from that but the application loading times and everything else feels pretty good for a phone like this (honest opinion, it runs most of the apps better than my S7 XD)
3. The stock Android experience combined with the 3GB of RAM makes the phone multitask like a boss!!! Never had refreshes with 6 to 7 apps open including a game.
4. THE BATTERY is MASSIVE. 5,000 mah can give you up to 3 days of light usage (up to 2 days with heavier usage).
Cons:
1. The screen is 720p, so in terms of screen resolution it isn't good, but it has good color accuracy, however, due to the low pixel density you may not find it that great. Viewing angles also suffer a bit but that's to be expected.
2. The phone isn't getting Android P which is disappointing. Even the G6 play with the 425 will get android P so in terms of performance this would run it better. But oh well, Motorola doesn't like updating software for the E series I guess!!
3. The price of it can be expensive in the USA, cricket sells it cheap, T mobile sells it moderately overpriced and sprint way too overpriced.
4. The glossy plastic build can get scratched easily and it also doesn't feel premium by any means!!!
If you own an e5 plus tell me your review of it too in the coments section!!!!
That's all that I can tell, I didn't put camera pros and cons due to that being more of a personal preference and we already know what we deal with budget phone cameras so. If you still want the camera review let me a comment in the thread.

Alldocube iPlay 40 review: an all-around tablet with some minor compromises

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The good:
1. Great build quality.
2. Clear and sharp display.
3. Quad speakers.
4. Solid performance.
5. MicroSD card support.
6. 4G and Phone functions.
The bad:
1. No fingerprint reader.
2. Sub-par battery life and charging speed
3. Slow storage.
After many years of market shrinking, we’ve finally seen a solid 26% increase in shipment of tablets in 2020. Alldocube, a Chinese company well-known for making affordable Android slates, has released quite a number of models last year. The Alldocube iPlay 40 is the latest addition to their lineup, and may very well be the best yet.
Main Specs
Operating system: Android 10.0
Screen: 10.4-inch In-Cell IPS display @2000*1200px
Processor: Unisoc T618
CPU: Octa-Core (4*Cortex [email protected] + 6*Cortex [email protected]), 12nm process
GPU: Mali-G52MP
RAM: 8GB LPDDR4
ROM: 128GB eMMc 5.1 (supports expansion up to 2TB)
Battery: 3.8V/6000mAh Li-Po battery
Cameras: 5MP front / 8MP main
Speakers: Quad speakers
Wi-Fi: 802.11a/b/g/n, 5GHz/2.4GHz dual-band
Mobile networks: 4G (FDD-LTE/TDD-LTE), 3G (TD-SCDMA/WCDMA), 2G (GSM)
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 5.0
Ports: USB-C port, MicroSD card slot, SIM card slot
Buttons: Power/standby key, volume rocker
Size: 248.1*157.86*8.2mm, Weight: 475g
Nice-looking design and great build quality
The Alldocube iPlay 40 looks neat and elegant. The curved sides give the slate an air of luxury. The bezels around the screen are quite small, but enough for us to avoid accidental touches while gripping and holding the tablet. No, it won’t match the amazing designs of the Apple iPad Pro or the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+, but for a budget tablet, it is still very nice. A front-facing camera can be found above the display (in vertical mode), the rest of the front looks clean, and you won’t even find any branding.
The tablet has a back side made of glass fiber, which looks like metal, but feels much smoother in hand.
Apart from the model name, the camera and LED flash besides it are the only distraction. The entire backside of the tablet looks clean, simple and stylish, and gives the tablet a much more premium look than the price tag suggests.
Quad speakers are no longer a luxury only high-end tablets can afford to have. When holding the iPlay 40 horizontally, the left and right side are each home to two speakers. There’s also a Type-C port on the left side of the slate.
The tablet supports 4G, as well as storage expansion. The SIM card tray is able to carry 2 nano SIM cards or the combination of 1 nano SIM card and a MicroSD card.
There are two physical buttons on the top side of the slate: a power/standby key and a volume rocker.
The iPlay 40 measures 2248.1*157.86*8.2mm, and weighs 475g. It does not fit in our hands as well as those 8-inchers do, and you can basically forget about one-handed use, but the device didn’t burden our hands too much, either, thanks to the slim and lightweight build. As thin as it is, the iPlay 40 still feels quite robust, even physically twisting the tablet doesn’t reveal excess movement. The overall build quality of this slate is as good as that of the Lenovo Tab P11, which many consider to be the best budget tablet to date.
One thing that does bother me is the absence of a fingerprint reader, which could have made unlocking the screen a lot easier. Fortunately, the iPlay 40 supports 2D face unlock, which isn’t as secure as fingerprint, but almost as convenient.
Decent screen and sound
The Alldocube iPlay 40 sports a gorgeous 10.4-inch IPS display. Resolution clocks in at 2,000 by 1,200, for 225 pixels per inch. With deep blacks and rich colors, the display is really a joy to look at. Color accuracy is also good, and the screen is bright enough to use in any scenario.
The iPlay 40’s display uses the standard sRGBW matrix, sharpness is good and, while I don’t think color calibration or the screen architecture match the AMOLED display found on Alldocube’s X Neo, or the OLED panel on Lenovo’s Tab P11 Pro, this is still one of the better screens you’ll find on a budget tablet. When compared to the Lenovo Tab P11’s 11-inch LCD panel, the iPlay 40’s screen is much brighter.
The UI also allows users to adjust color temperature of the display to get the best visual experience.
Not just videos and photos look nice. The lightweight nature means it’s also an excellent ebook reader alternative, I changed the background color to a paper-like tone, it didn’t tire my eyes.
As mentioned earlier, the Alldocube iPlay 40 offers 4 side-firing speakers, which can go very loud. Although these built-in speakers can sound a little harsh at the highest volume, and lacks the bass and soundstage produced by the Quad JBL tuned speakers found on the Lenovo Tab P11 Pro. Still, they are much better than similarly priced Android slates and are definitely good enough for YouTube and Tik Tok.
Unfortunately, the iPlay 40 doesn’t come with 3.5mm audio jack like Alldocube’s previous models. You will need to use a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter if you want wired headphones, but who doesn’t own a pair of wireless headphones in this era?
Improved UI
The iPlay 40 runs on Alldocube’s new customized skin on top of Android 10.
Although Alldocube made a huge deal about this new UI in their ads, I personally haven’t found any significant improvement over stock Android besides features such as better-looking icons, gesture controls and smart motions, features we have seen on mainstream tablets for years. With that said, I still think it’s an important step in the right direction.
Unfortunately, the Android ecosystem is going towards a direction which is less and less tablet-friendly. Many of the customized tablet applications in Play Store were released years ago and haven’t been updated for a long time. As a result, most of the apps we tried on the iPlay 40 were just phone apps blown up to fill the 10.4-inch screen, with the majority of them only supporting vertical mode. The ideal solution would be something like Samsung’s Dex Mode or Lenovo’s productivity mode, but Alldocube, as expected, doesn’t offer similar features in their slates.
Solid performance
The Alldocube iPlay 40 is powered by Unisoc’s T618 processor, which has an octa-core CPU (2 Cores of Cortex-A75 clocked at 2.0GHz and 6 cores of Cortex-A55 clocked at 2.0GHz) and ARM’s Mali-G52MP GPU.
This chipset was released in 2020 and built on 12nm process, so it is relatively new, and it offers better performance than MediaTek’s P60 or Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 66X, which are the most commonly used SoC. In budget and midrange tablets. There’s also 8GB LPDDR4 RAM inside the slate to handle multitasking.
The iPlay 40 has easily beaten other budget tablets in Antutu and Geekbench 5. Even the Teclast M40, which is powered by the same Unisoc T618 chipset, scored significantly lower than the iPlay 40 in both tests.
In the GPU-focused 3DMark Slingshot Extreme test, the iPlay 40 was also returned with decent scores.
The storage inside of the iPlay 40 is relatively slow. The Sequential Read speed is only 106.27mb/s in Androbench’s readings, falling behind most other entry-level tablets including Alldocube’s very own iPlay 30, which was released three months ago. But in comparison, Teclast uses even lower-quality storage in both of their M40 and P20HD.
In the real-world use, the Unisoc T618 processor actually offers more than enough horsepower to drive the tablet for the tasks it is intended for. The iPlay 40 is smooth and responsive most of the time, I had no issues watching 4K YouTube videos in Chrome, with many other image-heavy webpages loading at the same time. The slate is also capable of keeping many big applications running in the background, thanks to its whooping 8GB RAM.
However, the iPlay 40 isn’t the best video decoder, as it scored only 827 in Antutu video tester, but for those normal video formats, you always have the choice to use software decoding. I’ve tried many clips and the slate can play all of them smoothly.
Gaming should not be your main reason to buy a tablet. With that said, the iPlay 40 can run most games installed from Play Store without issues. I tried Asphalt 9, PUBG and Arena of Valor, all of them can run smoothly at moderate settings.
Superb connectivity
The iPlay 40 supports dual-band Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0, 4G and full phone functionalities. It won’t have fancy features like 5G and WiFi-6, but we don’t expect it to.
The 128GB internal storage should be sufficient for most users. For those who need more, the tablet supports a TF card of up to 2TB!
Basic cameras
There are two cameras on the iPlay 40, a front-facing 5MP camera and an 8MP main camera. Those cameras can be useful for unlocking, video-chatting, and scanning QR code, but you won’t want to “archive your life” with them. Even in perfectly-lit conditions, most photos I took with the main camera were either over-exposed or under-exposed, and there wasn’t much life to them. In low light, the photos were simply horrible. In an era when most entry-level smartphones come with dual or triple camera setups, there is really no place for tablet photography.
Subpar battery life and charging speed
The Alldocube iPlay 40 houses a 6000mAh Li-Po battery, smaller than the capacity of most of its peers. Even with a more power-efficient processor, the iPlay 40 still only gives me around 7 hours’ screen time on a full charge.
With display brightness and speaker volume both set at 50%, the iplay 40 lasted 7 hours and 55 minutes in our battery rundown test, where we played a 1080P video on loop.
This iPlay 40 doesn’t support any form of quick charge. The supplied wall charger is rated 10W (5V-2A), a full charge (0%→100%) takes about 4 hours. In comparison, the Lenovo Tab P11 comes with a 20W QC3.0 charger, while the Smasung Galaxy Tab A7 supports 15W charging.
Verdict: an all-around tablet with some minor compromises
The Alldocube iPlay 40 isn’t designed to break any new grounds, but it is an Android tablet which gets a lot of essential things right. It has a sharp and colorful display, which makes it ideral for video streaming, web-browsing and even light gaming. The T618 processor offers more than enough power for everyday tasks. 4G and phone functionalities means the tablet can be a serviceable phone whenever needed.
The absence of a fingerprint reader, slow storage and low battery capacity could all be potential deal breakers for many, but for a tablet priced as low as the iPlay 40, it’s really unfair to ask for perfection. With UFS 2.1 storage, higher quality speakers and much, much better cameras, the Lenovo Tab P11 is still a superior piece of tech in many aspects. But if horsepower is on top of your priorities when choosing a tablet, you won’t get anything better than the iPlay 40 in the same price range.
Nice review, battery life, no audio jack and memory speed are deal breakers for me. They should release something with this design, but the size of iPad Pro, with way bigger battery, faster memories, audio jack, better cameras (at least front one) and a bit faster charging speed, it would have no competition in Android's environment, I'd willingly fork more for those upgrades. Seems they also support a stylus made by alldocube itself which looks pretty good.
Very thorough review! kudos
Great review. Anything known about GPS functionality/ accuracy? Does it have hardware compass?
I would like to use it for navigation on a boat.
Love the IPS display.
Does this tablet also supports 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity - like alldocube iplay 30?. And also support a pressure-sensitive stylus an also has palm-rejection, glove detection, etc. ? Thanks
Hihi, can you redo on the storage speed test? It is a very weird result with writing speed much faster than reading speed. Seems impossible. Thanks.
This looks tempting. I saw a preview review saying it doesn't support HD Netflix/Amazon. I didn't see this mentioned, can the reviewer confirm?
And if so, are there any hacks to get around this?
Bunjit said:
This looks tempting. I saw a preview review saying it doesn't support HD Netflix/Amazon. I didn't see this mentioned, can the reviewer confirm?
And if so, are there any hacks to get around this?
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No Widevine L1, so no HD content on Netflix and Amazon.
Eugenecctan said:
Hihi, can you redo on the storage speed test? It is a very weird result with writing speed much faster than reading speed. Seems impossible. Thanks.
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I've done it multiple times, similar result each time.
yes
d_fens said:
Does this tablet also supports 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity - like alldocube iplay 30?. And also support a pressure-sensitive stylus an also has palm-rejection, glove detection, etc. ? Thanks
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User Without a Name said:
Great review. Anything known about GPS functionality/ accuracy? Does it have hardware compass?
I would like to use it for navigation on a boat.
Love the IPS display.
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it does have hardware compass.
Нужен рут !!!
Прошивку для планшета пока не нашел.
I got random rebooting on my unit..anyone experienced the same? Any solution on this?already do factory resetting..
H x H 026 said:
I got random rebooting on my unit..anyone experienced the same? Any solution on this?already do factory resetting..
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It's hardware problem, suggest returning to the supplier for replacement.
Is there a pressure sensitive stylus available for the iPlay 40? I'm weighing up between the iPlay 30 and the 40 and a pressure sensitive Stylus is a must for what I want to use it for.
Thanks in advance.
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I got random rebooting on my unit..anyone experienced the same? Any solution on this?already do factory resetting..
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I had the same issue with a Teclast tablet recently, and I suspected a hardware issue too at first. But it was probably a problem with one of the apps i had installed. I suggest a factory reset, test, and install your apps one at a time. Of course if factory reset with no apps installed (DO NOT load any backup before testing! ) doesn't solve those reboots, then use the waranty.
Thanks for the great review. I saw that you answered the question about having the 4,096 levels of pressure on the screen. Were you able to find a stylus to work with this? And about gaming, have any idea if it may run any modern emulator (PSP, Gamecube, Wii, 3DS)? DO you think it fares better than the S6 lite?
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I got random rebooting on my unit..anyone experienced the same? Any solution on this?already do factory resetting..
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i also experience the same but then it escalates. my unit went into bootloop and i'm unable to hard reset (power+volume up). I appreciate any suggestion that might help.
Could i flash GSI LinageOS Rom on this Device?

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