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Fellow XDA Devs:
A capability that a few of us approximated but never fully accomplished was using two Carriers on the Pixel 2 XL (active and passive modes).
Now that the Pixel 3 class is released, does anyone have insight on the feasibility of Active eSIM & Active SIM? That would be such an amazing feather which some much cheaper phones accomplish. I recognize that the Telecom overlords (i.e. Verizon and AT&T) would fight tooth and nail against this capability as the technology would diminish their control).
Thus, it may require playing under the hood and determining if the hardware can support. Appreciate any perspectives or insight you may have
Regards,
Herb
I'd be really surprised (and a little disappointed) if the hardware didn't support active/active, so fingers crossed it happens at some point - or is made to happen by one of the resident geniuses here.... but the box shots I have seen only have one IMEI so who knows?
hschreib said:
Fellow XDA Devs:
A capability that a few of us approximated but never fully accomplished was using two Carriers on the Pixel 2 XL (active and passive modes).
Now that the Pixel 3 class is released, does anyone have insight on the feasibility of Active eSIM & Active SIM? That would be such an amazing feather which some much cheaper phones accomplish. I recognize that the Telecom overlords (i.e. Verizon and AT&T) would fight tooth and nail against this capability as the technology would diminish their control).
Thus, it may require playing under the hood and determining if the hardware can support. Appreciate any perspectives or insight you may have
Regards,
Herb
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Unfortunately, no reason to believe the 3 will be any different than the 2 with regards to active dual sim.
Another 'issue' would still be the eSIM can only be used with Project Fi (unless Google changed their mind).
Yes, but imagine Google Fi on the eSIM and the ability to install any other carrier (domestic or ESPECIALLY International) on the nano-SIM. Appreciate the feedback, markd66 and uicnren. Cheers, Herb
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Yes, but imagine Google Fi on the eSIM and the ability to install any other carrier (domestic or ESPECIALLY International) on the nano-SIM. Appreciate the feedback, markd66 and uicnren. Cheers, Herb
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Well, you can do that now, you just can't use them concurrently.
Obviously having both active simultaneously is what is desired, but given past history, its not going to happen.
I spoke to the Google Pixel Support and they confirmed that it won't support dual sim.
Ha dual sim? Verizon is not even letting you use the esim in the Pixel 3 XL. At least th 2 XL let you switch between sims. Not true dual but better than nothing. I used the fi for work calls and used the verizon for my personal calls. The sad part is this will not be a major issue so it will be ignored. I will either have to go back to 2 XL or walk with two phones...
Are you saying they have the esim blocked?
Yes that is correct. I really blows
Dazedust28 said:
Yes that is correct. I really blows
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Are you saying active/active is blocked or the e-sim. On my pixel 3 xl I can now scan a qr code from any carrier or enter in the code manually to activate e-sim. Unfortunately T-Mobile doesn't do esim yet.
My wife is looking to get a pixel 3 and switch to Fi, and was hoping to use the esim thing to also have her work Verizon # on it. Is that a thing that's even possible?
DOMF said:
My wife is looking to get a pixel 3 and switch to Fi, and was hoping to use the esim thing to also have her work Verizon # on it. Is that a thing that's even possible?
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If she or you are buying through Google, that should be no issue.
eSIM only works on Fi anyway, so you'd then need to get a VZW SIM.
DOMF said:
My wife is looking to get a pixel 3 and switch to Fi, and was hoping to use the esim thing to also have her work Verizon # on it. Is that a thing that's even possible?
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no, only one active at a time.
Can confirm, can't buy a VZ phone and use eSim. It is disabled
I believe that you can only use one sim at a time. At least that was my experience with the 2XL. Both sims (e and nano) can be active, but you have to switch service to use. I did this traveling internationally.
As for blocking the sim, I cannot comment since I didn't experience this (Google version).
uicnren said:
If she or you are buying through Google, that should be no issue.
eSIM only works on Fi anyway, so you'd then need to get a VZW SIM.
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Pixel 3 supports eSIM with any carrier by scanning QR code provided by the carrier the same way iPhone XS does. There are few carriers supporting QR code eSIM right now, but launch is imminent on iPhone XS for more, and QR codes should work on Pixel 3 too.
How do you use the eSim on the Pixel anyway?
I wanted to bring this thread back to life as I am interested in the potential capabilities regarding active dual sim, but also wanted to clear up a few things.
the eSIM is not locked to project fi
the eSIM is not disabled
Verizon does not support eSIM (yet)
T-Mobile US does not support eSIM (yet)
the eSIM isn't being 'blocked' by anyone.
I want to know if the hardware would somehow allow dual active. I have two of these devices to test on. I don't know where to start
I'm on Project Fi using eSIM and also have a Giffgaff physical SIM installed just as a backup. It's very quick and easy to switch between them. When I first contacted Fi support to set it up I asked if this was feasible and they said definitely. So confirming that setup does work, but not dual active.
samnada said:
I'm on Project Fi using eSIM and also have a Giffgaff physical SIM installed just as a backup. It's very quick and easy to switch between them. When I first contacted Fi support to set it up I asked if this was feasible and they said definitely. So confirming that setup does work, but not dual active.
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I know the Apple 3 watch also uses eSim. I'm just waiting for Apple to put the hammer down on Verizon and demand eSim support. Then we'll have it on the Pixel 3 / XL for other than Fi. I'm figuring early 2019 but we'll see. Even so, this will not be eSim dual active but dual standby. It will be some time before manufactures (major ones) will go dual active. Pixel 4, iPhone XI?
I just went through an excruciating process hoping to get dual SIM to work. Turns out my 3a XL which I bought from Sprint only came with 1 IMEI and according to Google support it means that even though it's unlocked, I can only use either eSIM or physical SIM. Not both in standby mode. The only true dual SIM standby Pixel 3a's are sold directly through the Google store or through Google Fi.
I'm completely clueless why Google would cripple their own devices for the carriers. It's infuriating but now that I know, I will buy my next Pixel directly from Google store. Just beware if you buy a Pixel from the carriers, and you don't have two IMEIs they nerfed true dual SIM.
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I just went through an excruciating process hoping to get dual SIM to work. Turns out my 3a XL which I bought from Sprint only came with 1 IMEI and according to Google support it means that even though it's unlocked, I can only use either eSIM or physical SIM. Not both in standby mode. The only true dual SIM standby Pixel 3a's are sold directly through the Google store or through Google Fi.
I'm completely clueless why Google would cripple their own devices for the carriers. It's infuriating but now that I know, I will buy my next Pixel directly from Google store. Just beware if you buy a Pixel from the carriers, and you don't have two IMEIs they nerfed true dual SIM.
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I bought mine from a reseller, after checking though it's an unlocked Verizon model and I actually have two IMEIs. Bought it in Australia though so that may have something to do with it but if I were to add an esim I should be able to use DSDS as well as I have the option to enable it in radio info.
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Hello XDA members,
I received (gift) a brand new Google Pixel 3XL phone and I wondering about eSIM support. I can´t find any settings related to this. I saw some articles about Verizon version which do not have this opportunity. Anyway I have two questions:
How I can find version of my phone - Verizon or other?
Is it possible to somehow enable eSIM support for Verizon phones?
Thank you.
I believe your carrier has to activate it, not you. That's how it works for me with project Fi.
I know that the Google version MEID stars with 99 and I think Verizon starts with 98. I don't know if there is a Google fi version or if they just use the Google version.
As far as esim capabilities. The carrier has to activate it on their system and then you download the esim onto your phone to tell it what towers to connect to.
AFAIK Verizon still does not support esim on the pixel yet. I tried to activate it in February on esim and the guy at the store tried multiple times to get the pixel esim ID into the system but it wouldn't even accept all of the digits. Again that was in February so i 'guess' things could have changed but I highly doubt it as the guy at the store called customer service and they mentioned that eventually they will support it but it was not high on their priority list.
Good luck
I saw an ad for a Google Pixel 6 PRO that doesn't accept a physical SIM chip, allowing only eSIM usage. The problem is that the Pixel eSim is not unlocked in my country, so there is no possibility to use it. I wanted to know if with root I could circumvent this.
KiYOxz said:
I saw an ad for a Google Pixel 6 PRO that doesn't accept a physical SIM chip, allowing only eSIM usage. The problem is that the Pixel eSim is not unlocked in my country, so there is no possibility to use it. I wanted to know if with root I could circumvent this.
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My pixel 6 Pro has a physical nano sim
lil_michelle said:
My pixel 6 Pro has a physical nano sim
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Yes, but apparently there was a carrier block for physical Sim entry. The only one available is the eSIM but it is blocked in my country. I wanted to know if I can unlock one of the two entries with root.
KiYOxz said:
Yes, but apparently there was a carrier block for physical Sim entry. The only one available is the eSIM but it is blocked in my country. I wanted to know if I can unlock one of the two entries with root.
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Oh I see, I've never seen that. I would check the LSPosed repo and magisk repo and see. Sorry can't answer it.
When you say esim is locked in your country you mean the carriers offer esim for other models but pixel 6p is not compatible? If that's the case I'm 99.9% sure that it will work no root needed. If they insist to tell them your model just say you have an iPhone. Had the same issue some years ago. Bought a used 4xl from UK with blacklisted physical sim due to debts, no way to remove it from blacklist unless paid out, but esim IMEI was not blacklisted and in my country pixels not supported as well and every carrier representative was saying it will not work. Of course it worked and since then I have used several esims on p4xl p5 p6 and now on p6 pro and pixels still not supported for esim (+ 5g volte etc) in my country
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When you say esim is locked in your country you mean the carriers offer esim for other models but pixel 6p is not compatible? If that's the case I'm 99.9% sure that it will work no root needed. If they insist to tell them your model just say you have an iPhone. Had the same issue some years ago. Bought a used 4xl from UK with blacklisted physical sim due to debts, no way to remove it from blacklist unless paid out, but esim IMEI was not blacklisted and in my country pixels not supported as well and every carrier representative was saying it will not work. Of course it worked and since then I have used several esims on p4xl p5 p6 and now on p6 pro and pixels still not supported for esim (+ 5g volte etc) in my country
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It's like a block from Google, for example the Pixel does not accept a 5G signal in my country, but with root you can bypass this. The same happens with eSim, but I don't know if root solves it.
KiYOxz said:
It's like a block from Google, for example the Pixel does not accept a 5G signal in my country, but with root you can bypass this. The same happens with eSim, but I don't know if root solves it.
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I see I don't believe you will find something cause it's a little bit different than making it register to a 5g network. Usually when it comes to sim locks the IMEI is getting blocked and unfortunately Google phones getting blocked (sim lock blacklist etc) via Google s servers and the unlock comes as an OTA. I don't even believe even if you manage to change the IMEI (illegal) that you'll make it work. There are some modules and apps that require root that say they can change IMEI but in most cases they have to do with older phones and especially mediatek ones. Maybe a professional with special tool boxes (like octopus) can do something
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I see I don't believe you will find something cause it's a little bit different than making it register to a 5g network. Usually when it comes to sim locks the IMEI is getting blocked and unfortunately Google phones getting blocked (sim lock blacklist etc) via Google s servers and the unlock comes as an OTA. I don't even believe even if you manage to change the IMEI (illegal) that you'll make it work. There are some modules and apps that require root that say they can change IMEI but in most cases they have to do with older phones and especially mediatek ones. Maybe a professional with special tool boxes (like octopus) can do something
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Thanks
KiYOxz said:
I saw an ad for a Google Pixel 6 PRO that doesn't accept a physical SIM chip, allowing only eSIM usage. The problem is that the Pixel eSim is not unlocked in my country, so there is no possibility to use it. I wanted to know if with root I could circumvent this.
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Try a ubigi Esim... It's free and you can test your hypothesis... Here in my country almost all carriers that provides a esim doesn't work with pixel 6 pro. if ubigi esim works it's not a esim blocking problem.
So that means it comes with esim?
EDIT: correction: 11 global variant has eSim. My apologies.
Afaik OP hasn't yet ventured into eSim. iPhone so far ahead of everyone else...
horsecharles said:
Afaik OP hasn't yet ventured into eSim. iPhone so far ahead of everyone else...
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Nope...bunch of android phone support esim including Oneplus 11(global version), Pixel, Galaxy etc.
Esim is ok..but if you get a new phone.. that dont offer esim , it kinda sucks. Now you have to go to cell company and transfer esim to a sim card . I had esim on pixel 6 pro
That's not what I posted.
Other brands have but not to the extent of iPhone - where you can juggle many eSim profiles simultaneously, it's why I still use it in addition to Android.
As far as OnePlus 11 I haven't found a single confirmation. Even OnePlus forums state no.
Canuck Knarf said:
Esim is ok..but if you get a new phone.. that dont offer esim , it kinda sucks. Now you have to go to cell company and transfer esim to a sim card . I had esim on pixel 6 pro
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I like the way iPhone handles it. Simultaneously I had capped base plan and added free monthly trials from T-Mobile and Verizon. In settings you can designate which carrier is primary for call&text, which one for Data.
You can store over dozen e-Sim profiles, enable or disable at will...
horsecharles said:
I like the way iPhone handles it. Simultaneously I had capped base plan and added free monthly trials from T-Mobile and Verizon. In settings you can designate which carrier is primary for call&text, which one for Data.
You can store over dozen e-Sim profiles, enable or disable at will...
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eSIM in OP11 is.
even the help in the smartphone mentions it and informs you that if you activate the eSIM, the second SIM slot is no longer active.
Simply eSIM replaces SIM2.
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I added screenshots showing that eSIM in OP11 is and is doing well
BTW - I don't have my traditional SIM card inserted yet, because after the initial "play" with OP11, I will probably reset it to factory settings and root it.
Canuck Knarf said:
Esim is ok..but if you get a new phone.. that dont offer esim , it kinda sucks. Now you have to go to cell company and transfer esim to a sim card . I had esim on pixel 6 pro
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Really?!
With a physical SIM card I can swap it between any phones however and when I like. With a eSIM card you are a slave to your cellular provider. And good luck restoring your eSIM number if you left your country.
qriozum said:
eSIM in OP11 is.
even the help in the smartphone mentions it and informs you that if you activate the eSIM, the second SIM slot is no longer active.
Simply eSIM replaces SIM2.
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I added screenshots showing that eSIM in OP11 is and is doing well
BTW - I don't have my traditional SIM card inserted yet, because after the initial "play" with OP11, I will probably reset it to factory settings and root it.
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So OnePlus Store doesn't present it based on Location.
I stand corrected, and very grateful for your detailed reply!
I hoping that their will be alot of development for OnePlus 11 and I want to see for myself how esim works and how easy it is switch companys
birdie said:
Really?!
With a physical SIM card I can swap it between any phones however and when I like. With a eSIM card you are a slave to your cellular provider. And good luck restoring your eSIM number if you left your country.
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That's what I was saying..!!!!
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I hoping that their will be alot of development for OnePlus 11 and I want to see for myself how esim works and how easy it is switch companys
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There won't be. OppoPlus has again locked the MSM Tool behind a technician login so the risk of having a brick is unacceptably high. It will be just like all phones since the 9 Pro - little, if any development. Developers are moving away from OnePlus en masse.
I'm going to be moving to the OP11 from OP7T - even though it has eSIM/SIM - does it allow you specify a ringtone for each of the SIMs? This is the reason I moved back to my OP7T from the Pixel 7 Pro, now I have (1) expensive paper-weight sitting on my desk and hoping the OnePlus 11 will have this option like my OnePlus 7T.
This is from the OnePlus 11 Specs Page
eSIM - Yes
Dual SIM - Yes (Dual nano-SIM slot)
I'm about to set up a new OP11 but I don't want to use eSIM. I'd rather have two physical SIMs. When you start setup I don't see an option to disable eSIM. I don't want to insert my SIM to learn, that I won't be able to go back or cancel this operation. What do I do?