Since this is a well known fact and according to my detailed benchmark results this DOES happen to N10 as well.
Community members have already found the solution and I'm linking to here as well.
I've tested this and can confirm it does work, getting high speedometer benchmarks (SD690 average) as expected in the first place.
Have not experienced any overheating or massive battery drain yet, I'll be further testing this out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/bounty-tpd-app-throttling-disablement.4306357/post-85354181
RTamas91 said:
Since this is a well known fact and according to my detailed benchmark results this DOES happen to N10 as well.
Community members have already found the solution and I'm linking to here as well.
I've tested this and can confirm it does work, getting high speedometer benchmarks (SD690 average) as expected in the first place.
Have not experienced any overheating or massive battery drain yet, I'll be further testing this out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/bounty-tpd-app-throttling-disablement.4306357/post-85354181
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Thanks for the info! How did this affect your battery life?
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Place your vote's of which ROM has the best battery life for your phone.
Good thread! I'm very intrested to see wich ROM has the better battery life!
Isn't this a bit pointless as they are basically very similar roms.
buchman said:
Isn't this a bit pointless as they are basically very similar roms.
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As far as I know - DeFroST is based on OD. So nothing to compare or vote here.
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As far as I know - DeFroST is based on OD. So nothing to compare or vote here.
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Not entirely the same. And both on different kernels also.
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I had very bad surprises with both roms.
But I think the real problem are some apps.
Camera360 for example kills your battery in 2 hours.
So I don't vote
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As far as I know - DeFroST is based on OD. So nothing to compare or vote here.
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Defrost is completely build from source with cyanogenmod packages and framework. Kernel is different also (no overvolt [email protected]). Look at my github: http://github.com/richardtrip/
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Defrost is completely build from source with cyanogenmod packages and framework. Kernel is different also (no overvolt [email protected]). Look at my github: http://github.com/richardtrip/
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Thank you Richard. So there will be different battery life between the 2 ROM's. People need to stop saying that DeFroST is a total rip from OpenDesire.
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I agree.
There WAS a time when OD and DF is almost similar inside out but as of lately both ROMs are very much different.
But on the question of which had better battery life my vote goes to DF. OD seems to be unstable lately and has turned out to be more experimental then stable (e.g implementation of multitouch droid keyboard, switching to HTC keyboard and now infusing elements from Galaxy S). I had more better power drain on DF and CM6.
Cor, this all seems familiar.
Anyway, instead of polls which to be frank are worthless in this regard, has anyone actually done any measured testing between battery lives of different versions of different ROMs? That might actually be useful and interesting.
Nordo said:
I had very bad surprises with both roms.
But I think the real problem are some apps.
Camera360 for example kills your battery in 2 hours.
So I don't vote
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how can an app which only runs when you open it explicitly drain the battery in 2 hours (unless you sit there with the camera on for 2 hours)
I've very bad experience with OpenDesire battery... I can't say the same about DeFrost, wich has a good battery life
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I've very bad experience with OpenDesire battery... I can't say the same about DeFrost, wich has a good battery life
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I was once with OpenDesire a few days ago and don't consider going back because one night i had 59% battery charge and woke up the next morning finding that it's dead.
Going back to DefroST and running my same old apps that i previously had on OD works just fine. With my phone with plenty of charge the next morning
i think this thread would be more useful if people would give their specific experiences with the roms they use the most, as i'm sure there are quite a number of people that haven't tried one or the other long enough to give substantial feedback. i think people should include:
which version of the rom(s) they tested/used
what kind of battery life they experienced and with what type of usage (i know it's subjective and everyone gets different results, but it's better than just voting for the rom you used and saying it's the best)
length of time that was allowed to test (there have been occasions where rebooting or going through a complete charging cycle have yielded better battery life. so it should be noted if people only allowed the rom they tested to be on their phone for maybe 20% or whatever, or a couple of hours)
and any other information people think might help/be useful to others
also what radio people are running would be very useful as well
This is a development forum.
I think that this type of thread are useless, since battery life is too "personal" to sort with a silly poll.
Battery life is meant to be professionally tested with some program, with the same device. One can have faulty battery, another one can have a non calibrated battery, another one a new battery.
My two cents.
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I tried DeFrost just for a while to see Quadrant score. So I can't say something certain about it's battery life. But OpenDesire I'm using rigt now has great battery life. I mentioned that today in OD thread also. With normal use(Web, lots of messaging, GPS etc. 768 mhz cpu speed (it does 1300 Quadrant score with that speed) and 2G mobile network) I've used it for 70 hours. Really impressive I think.
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how can an app which only runs when you open it explicitly drain the battery in 2 hours (unless you sit there with the camera on for 2 hours)
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If you don't leave the app with the back button, it runs further in the background-
Please Mods, close this thread.
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Please Mods, close this thread.
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For what reason?
soooo many different aspects to battery life that just asking randomly to 'vote' is indeed not helping too much.
I won't say it as blunt as 'please close this thread' but really helpful it's not.
For example, what if - eehhhhm, let's pick Defrost - DeFrost comes out as 75% voting to have better battery life. A new user comes in, sees DeFrost as better, and picks that one. His battery drains within an hour, and he is thinking "WTF?!? insert random roob rage stuff here WTF!?!?!"
This happens all the time. Battery usage users are _so_ different based on usage, network provider, location and apps used / installed that the ROM really doesn't have much influence.
Only if there is a real 'bug' it's noticeable, and the dev's are quickly on it then.
Is it possible for an app to monitor and benchmark battery performance against a wide range on factors including usage and ultimately come up with a score based on the Kernal/Rom etc?
Does anything like that already exist?
If not it would be a great idea to come up with general scores to see which combination would provide the best battery life.
What do you guys think?
No app like that exists; however, skydeaner put a lot of work into getting a working list of kernel performance (which is the leading contributor to battery life). Check it out, it's very useful.
First off I'm fairly aware of the fact that benchmarks are not accurate representations of the day to day real life usefulness of the handset.
That said, I used both linpack and quadrant standard edition for the first time tonight while testing another kernel with my current rom (which is cm7, ggingerbread-6).
At the conclusion of my testing it was very obvious that one kernel completely outclassed the other in a benchmarking situation, however something else became apparent that leads to this post.
If I follow and believe everyone else's benchmark scores, even those posted an hour earlier in the same kernel thread, then I might have the slowest Evo on planet earth.
I see other users of the same rom and kernal posting scores which are never below 1500 in quadrant, I saw one instance of 1300 but nonetheless, even overclocking to 1075 I can barely break 1100 and usually fall just below that. Sadly enough on the "slower" of the 2 kernals I was barely surpassing 900.
Now on the linpack side of things I don't have any comparative scores to judge against, but ill post what I received anyhow for information's sake. On the "faster" of the two kernels (the one that came prebuilt into the rom) I was getting between 33-34, on the new kernel I was testing I was getting between 19 and 22, these are all "mflops" of course, whatever that may be.
Someone give me some information or advice here! Do I just happen to have a slow evolution, or are others either exaggerating or using some trick/mod/tweak I'm royalty unaware of??
Thanks in advance!
some people brag, some people cheat, most have low scores, few have high, there isn't a very good baseline and the benchmark programs dont scale very well at all, I have run 1800 scores and I have run 600 scores, guess what. both roms were smooth and you wouldn't have been able to tell a difference, what does that mean? do we believe the benchmark programs? are they spitting a random number at us? who knows! dont believe them, be satisfied with how your evo is running and if it's not running very well then try a different kernel or rom, keep trying new ones until your satisfied, only then will some benchmark program output not mean a thing
Most of my Quadrant benchmarks with aftermarket ROMS+kernels have been in the 1100-1400 range, using VaelPak and various kernels to get most of the better scores there. The highest I've had was CM7RC1 with the SnapTurbo kernel, got an 1821. It was unusable, though.
I've come to the conclusion that the benchmarks aren't as important as battery life, especially with the Evo.
Biggest reason for the huge difference in numbers? Different versions of the app. The dev changed how it rates phones.
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Thanks!
Explained. I knew they were totally not concurrent with the outward performance and usability of the device, and for what its worth while I've only ever flashed a total of 3 roms, this one is perfect for me and I seem to be one of the rare few with no problems whatsoever, everything works exactly as I would expect it to. So yes, l never feared my device was suddenly slower now that I knew the all knowing superultrabenchmark number.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&nocache=1
Worth the plunge? Still not rooted since I don't see the need as of yet...
Nope, according to some reports and google engineers themselves - it's all placebo and none of 'reduced lag' was a result of applying this 'entropy tweak' but attributed to the application constantly forcing I/O use and thus scaling up CPU usage and making it faster.
Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...rooted-android-phones-proven-useless-2013014/
More here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265
Oh yeah, it has a negative impact on battery life.
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Oh yeah, it has a negative impact on battery life.
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Really? Kristofpetho reports increase battery life on his HyperDroid JBX rom with it enabled.
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I dont think there is anything conclusive in the code.google thread, there is something in that thread that struck a cord with me, someone mentioned that their phone was unusable while downloading a torrent. I have a Transformer Prime TF201 which is suffering lag, and this happened to me on Saturday. I always assumed it was to do with the crappy wifi, I've installed this on it and it is much snappier, particularly in the browser, facebook app, and tapatalk. The reasons for this may not be what the author of the app thinks they are, but nonetheless there is a definite improvement which is not placebo. My N7105 does not suffer from lag, so I have not installed it on there, but for you theres no harm in trying?
decrease cpu up threshold/sampling rate and you will have same effect. (higher cpu stages are used=better performance=lower battery).
Hi guys -
So I saw in one of the 4.4 ROM threads that someone had used the Battery Calibration app from the Play Store and they claimed it seriously helped their battery life on the geespr. I decided to look at the app in the Store, and I started reading the reviews. I'm perplexed - - many people gave five star reviews claiming it significantly improved their battery life, while others said it did nothing, and a few even said it made their battery WORSE. Then there's the few who have said that wiping the battery stats file (the function that the app fulfills) can't possibly make a difference to your battery life because it only affects how Android reports the battery info. Still further, some say that the battery stats are ALREADY wiped when you flash a new ROM or even just unplug your charger.
So how about it, guys? Can we get a definitive answer about this? Surely our talented devs know the truth?
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Hi guys -
So I saw in one of the 4.4 ROM threads that someone had used the Battery Calibration app from the Play Store and they claimed it seriously helped their battery life on the geespr. I decided to look at the app in the Store, and I started reading the reviews. I'm perplexed - - many people gave five star reviews claiming it significantly improved their battery life, while others said it did nothing, and a few even said it made their battery WORSE. Then there's the few who have said that wiping the battery stats file (the function that the app fulfills) can't possibly make a difference to your battery life because it only affects how Android reports the battery info. Still further, some say that the battery stats are ALREADY wiped when you flash a new ROM or even just unplug your charger.
So how about it, guys? Can we get a definitive answer about this? Surely our talented devs know the truth?
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I've been confused by the same thing. I usually recommend doing it when switching between roms. While I can't give you a definite answer, I have also read that wiping the batterystats.bin file does nothing. This thread here says it does absolutely nothing and explains why. That being said, I am one of the people who have noticed significant increases in battery performance from it - which is why I recommend it. Apparently it shouldn't work though! So now the real question is, why the hell did my battery performance increase to such a high degree afterwards, if it does nothing? I didn't use the app, I just deleted the file once my phone hit 100%.
That thread I posted states it is clearly a placebo, and is even backed up by google. It won't hurt so I still do it because like I said Ive noticed an increase. Now Im completely unsure as to why that increase has taken place.
The app also says to let your phone drain to 0% and then recharge uninterrupted back to 100%. It says that it isn't necessary but helpful. Now this could help your battery IF it was a nickel based battery. Since ours in Lithium based, it can actually hurt performance and shorten your batteries life span.
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Apparently it shouldn't work though! So now the real question is, why the hell did my battery performance increase to such a high degree afterwards, if it does nothing?
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This is a real conundrum :\ and it's going to bug the heck out of me.
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This is a real conundrum :\ and it's going to bug the heck out of me.
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Yeah, it appears as if it is simply a placebo. That thread is clear on what that file does and it shouldn't affect performance. Perhaps my increases happened because of changes in charging that just happened to coincide with wiping that file? What I do know is that I was regularly getting 15 hours or so with moderate use. Afterwards it doubled. The longest this battery has lasted for me was a little over 30 hours on a full charge.
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Yeah, it appears as if it is simply a placebo. That thread is clear on what that file does and it shouldn't affect performance. Perhaps my increases happened because of changes in charging that just happened to coincide with wiping that file? What I do know is that I was regularly getting 15 hours or so with moderate use. Afterwards it doubled. The longest this battery has lasted for me was a little over 30 hours on a full charge.
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It must just be a combination of factors then...which would explain why some people say it helps and some people say it hurts. Seems there's no real clear trend. Thanks for your replies
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It must just be a combination of factors then...which would explain why some people say it helps and some people say it hurts. Seems there's no real clear trend. Thanks for your replies
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Eh, no problem, thanks for asking. I've been telling people false info based on misguided observations - and that's never good.
It works for me. I used to get like 11 hour with 3 hr screen time, and now I get 13
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