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ok so I used my phone for about 3 hours last night tweaking things and playing with stuff and didn't charge it overnight and used it a bunch today and the battery indicator looked like it was at about 70%. probably not accurate, but the fact that it's even still on amazes me because it's probably got 8 hours of playing with it and 6 hours of standby and still going strong.
I think a full drain then a full charge might reset the battery indicator for accuracy, I wish we had like a "current widget" for WP7 to see the ma drain.
how you guys doing on HD2 WP7 battery drain? Mine seems to be even better than WM6.5
I have the exact opposite experience as you. My HD2[7]'s battery life is crap. It was fully charged last night and I had left it in my drawer with the Wi-fi off. After coming from work a half hour ago, I saw that the battery was almost drained.
Also, shouldn't the battery icon show the plug when the phone is being charged? My phone is on and booted into WP7, the red light is showing but the battery icon shows no animation or the plug. EDIT: WTF IT FROZE ON ME, I had to remove the battery!
Finally, what's with the random reboots? I've seen 2 already.
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Finally, what's with the random reboots? I've seen 2 already.
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I think its something related to the SD cards you are using.
If the Sd card you are using is not compatible with WP7 then you will get random reboots.
And the main thing here is that there is no specific way to know which SD card will work and which wont work with WP7
By the way my battery is somewhat draining faster than the Android I was using on my HD2
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I think its something related to the SD cards you are using.
If the Sd card you are using is not compatible with WP7 then you will get random reboots.
And the main thing here is that there is no specific way to know which SD card will work and which wont work with WP7
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we know which sd cards work on official wp7 devices.
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we know which sd cards work on official wp7 devices.
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What I meant to say was, we don't know which SD card will work with WP7 on HD2.
I wasn't talking about the official WP7
Well the stock 16gig TMOUS card works just fine.
my battery seems to be fine, i use my scale based on my school schedual. with android from 7 am to 4 pm around 50 to 40 percent.
today running wp7 i unplugged it around 8is and about 6 is it had very little black on the battery icon. im going ot charge it up fully, then kill it, to see if that helps reset the battery stats
Well when i first flashed WP7 my battery was over lasting.. After i manually rebooted because i just felt like doing so, my battery has started to drain a little bit to fast.
Are there any marketplace apps that can monitor this stuff yet?
Update: Last night, after making sure that my phone was fully charged, I turned off the wifi and removed the SIM card and didn't touch the phone again until a half hour ago (about 12 hours standby time in total). The indicator is showing about 50% battery life remaining. This SUCKS, and any helpful comments about this will be appreciated.
just considering its not supposed to be on the phone...
also what theme are you using
and since microsd polling it may have a lot of impact on standard battery life...
plus, let's be real, it is an htc...they're not battery efficient
domineus said:
just considering its not supposed to be on the phone...
also what theme are you using
and since microsd polling it may have a lot of impact on standard battery life...
plus, let's be real, it is an htc...they're not battery efficient
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Here are my settings: Dark background theme, purple (hate the color normally, but somehow manages to look nice on the HD2), 30 seconds lockscreen timeout, Wifi off, Location off.
I tried removing the MicroSD, but the phone then becomes unusable with frequent freezes and reboots. I'd love to check if the card is affecting battery life if the damn phone would let me to.
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I have the exact opposite experience as you. My HD2[7]'s battery life is crap. It was fully charged last night and I had left it in my drawer with the Wi-fi off. After coming from work a half hour ago, I saw that the battery was almost drained.
Also, shouldn't the battery icon show the plug when the phone is being charged? My phone is on and booted into WP7, the red light is showing but the battery icon shows no animation or the plug. EDIT: WTF IT FROZE ON ME, I had to remove the battery!
Finally, what's with the random reboots? I've seen 2 already.
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HTC puts bad batteries in their 4.3" phones. They've been using 1230 mAh batteries forever (over a year). Blackberry curves come with 1150 mAh batteries so you can see what that size is somewhat optimized for: feature phones and smartphones with small non-touch screens.
Most smartphones with a 4"+ screen running Android or WP7 have 1400+ mAh batteries (the i4 and Droid X also have 1400, Galaxy S and Incredible have 1500). That's why the battery life is bad.
And it's also the reason why I've never really given the phone much consideration - the battery and the TFT LCD screen they used on it.
That being said, the battery life depends on you usage. When I used my HD2 as myprimary device the battery life was terrible. Once I got my Vibrant and used it only as a PMP, the battery life was terrific because it didn't have a SIM Card and I only used it on WiFi and to play Music and Videos.
But people who use Curve 3Gs as their primary devices and are constantly BBMing and/or SMSing people in addition to calls report days-worth of uptime (emphasis on the plural).
My battery life is on par with what it was on android (about 12-16 hours with moderate usage of web, email, facebook, and heavy twitter) and its configured the same was as my android:
1) wifi is on when I need it (maybe 20-45 minutes a day for some marketplace downloads or something)
2) location is always on
3) screen is set to manual, low and 3 minute time-out
4) I have 3 IMAP email accounts that check between every 15 minutes and every 30 minutes.
5) I have a VERY active twitter account that updates every few minutes (not sure exactly as it doesn't appear to be live tile integrated)
6) facebook and google sync
7) HTC HUB is usually running updating the weather and stocks as often as it likes
8) dark brown theme
9) ringer off and no haptic feedback
Hope that helps anyone.
I do agree that the HTC supplied battery is sub-standard. Does anyone know where I can see what the battery percentage is acutally at? I only have the icon in the top right.
Just as a bit of information, my HD7 gets significantly better battery life than my sister's Galaxy phone. Also, those of you removing the SIM, make sure you also enable airplane mode, incase the phone continues to still search for signal... Battery size isn't as important as power management, though I do agree I wish we had a bigger battery on our HD7s... we might have sacrificed a little space for it though...
I think the battery meter is off. After about an hour of playing with Netflix, Zune and watching videos with the ign app my battery meter indicated that I had a lil juice left. I went to sleep without charging the phone. I was sure it would be dead when I woke but it wasn't. I was able to get about 2 more hrs out of it while using the Zune player streaming a playlist I saw.
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There is no third party multi-tasking in WP7 and Android Users usually have more apps/services updating stuff in the background. Yes, WP7 will get better battery life than lots of Android Phones and even theHD2 with the same battery in it due to that simple fact along, nevermind all the other exceptions and the obvious disclaimer: different use patterns are different.
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There is no third party multi-tasking in WP7 and Android Users usually have more apps/services updating stuff in the background. Yes, WP7 will get better battery life than lots of Android Phones and even theHD2 with the same battery in it due to that simple fact along, nevermind all the other exceptions and the obvious disclaimer: different use patterns are different.
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I have ATK or whatever it is installed on her phone, not sure if the AMOLED screen uses more juice though
Don't get me started on task killers and android. ATK may be causing the poor battery life. Those process and apps you think your killing are just gonna restart and cause more battery drain. Android does not need task killers. I suggest trying auto killer wich tweaks androids internal memory management to be more or less aggrsive. Phone must be rooted though.
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Don't get me started on task killers and android. ATK may be causing the poor battery life. Those process and apps you think your killing are just gonna restart and cause more battery drain. Android does not need task killers. I suggest trying auto killer wich tweaks androids internal memory management to be more or less aggrsive. Phone must be rooted though.
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I won't have much luck with that lol, her phone, her rules... I might convince her some day though
Hi
Had my phone a little over 24 hours and I may have a very poor battery
I have a LIVE screen on the one with the water and the leaves plus, I haven't made or received any calls but I have used it a little for internet and a few text messages
The green bar was on full about 5 hours ago and if I had to guess how long my use has been I would say 30 mins in total of the 5 hours, now my battery is indicating less than half full
Imagine if I was out all day making and receiving calls?
Does this sound normal?
This is normal for the first week or two , the battery is adjusting itself to your needs
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It's absolutely normal and you'll really notice a difference in about ten days, a couple of weeks the most.
That said, live wallpapers do use more battery. I much prefer a static dark one
adding to that make sure your phones nicely drained before recharging to ensure you get a nice full charge for next time... i took my desire's battery at least 5 days to start having a long term charge
bettery
same here took a week also what really helped me is having advanced task killer and setting it to kill unwanted apps after i lock the screen
i dont think you should use task killer, the apps will end them selves, i used task killer and got alot of force close after and errors etc
however force stopping unwanted applications is also good.
Android system 30%
cell standby 25%
phone idle 17%
android OS 15%
Display 11%
Internet 2%
5 H 55M 55S unplugged, hahaha no joke its all 5's
and now my battery is almost dead surely this cant be right
has anyone ever been given a replacement battery for their phone or do they ask for the phone to be returned if this is infact a fault
Battery sucks, phone is power hungry. Get used to it
I've had 2 desires since a week after it was released, i can count on one hand how many times I've got through a day without plugging my phone in.
I get about 2 days on my phone if I don't mess around with it a lot or get many calls. I normally plug it on overnight. Every night.
Nowadays that seems normal for a smartphone. Personally I think the battery life is slightly better than the iPhone 3GS.
Angry Birds means it lasts about 4-5 hours...
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It's all down to how your using your phone. If you have a live wallpaper and many widgets and apps that run in the background like running in the notification bar, then yes, your phone will die pretty fast. Also it depends on how much CPU your burning. When I first got my Desire, I was like WTF. This is useless battery life and was starting to play hell. Now it's fine. I can leave it for 2 days easily if I just text or flick through settings. It just depends on what your running.
BTW, no one should have a task killer. It defeats the purpose of Android. You can get a lot of force closes and other things. Just leave them alone and let the OS handle the apps. Android does end the process if it's idle, eventually, but it's not using anything really other than a bit of memory just to keep it going a little.
As GoogleJelly pointed out, it really does depend on what you do with your phone and what's apps/processes are running on it while the device is using battery. Even I found the battery life pretty poor at the beginning...I found it quite annoying having to charge this thing nearly every day.
After some light tweaking, I managed to get the battery life to go over 3 days and I now have no reason to complain about my phone Mind you, I'm not a heavy user....As for background apps, I think i've got about 5/6 apps running at a time...
EDIT: I've attached a screenshot of my battery meter.....
What app are you using to view your battey history?
I also tested task killer when I got my phone. I thought it was fixing battery life, but after bedding the phone in a bit I took it off to see how much difference it would make and I didnt notice any difference at all...
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What app are you using to view your battey history?
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I configured Quick Battery app to go to battery history from my phone settings every time I tap on it. You can view your battery history through:
Settings > About phone > Battery use.
If you want the graph, just tap on the top layer which shows the length of time you've been on battery.
EDIT: This works for Gingerbread based ROMs (it's the standard feature lol)...can't remember this being on Froyo.
infinityharry said:
adding to that make sure your phones nicely drained before recharging to ensure you get a nice full charge for next time... i took my desire's battery at least 5 days to start having a long term charge
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This is irrelevant with Li-ion as this is a myth from the ages of NiMh batteries. Your battery will not get ruined if you don't discharge it completely before first charging.
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efcgenius said:
Android system 30%
cell standby 25%
phone idle 17%
android OS 15%
Display 11%
Internet 2%
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great guideline, thx
Evil_Cid said:
I configured Quick Battery app to go to battery history from my phone settings every time I tap on it. You can view your battery history through:
Settings > About phone > Battery use.
If you want the graph, just tap on the top layer which shows the length of time you've been on battery.
EDIT: This works for GIngerbread based ROMs (it's the standard feature lol)...can't remember this being on Froyo.
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Ah right, cheers for that. Didn't know it was all built in
One of the main reasons why new smartphone owners experience fast battery drain lies in the simple fact that they fill up seven homescreens with widgets that sync over mobile internet every hour or even more often, which really kills the poor juice like a massive gas leak.
After about half a year of use I've reached a stage where I use just 2 screens on my Desire (CM 6.1.1), of which page no2 is a full 4x5 agenda and Page one has just one actively updated widget (home weather).
Combined with restricting network usage of random apps by means of DroidWall and underclocking the processor at certain parameters (eg. battery <50%) the phone lives for 2 days pretty easily, with moderate browsing, music etc included.
But TBH I've really decided that the battery usage is absolutely random because some days it just drains like there's no tomorrow with no apparent reason that I've been able to identify. Carry a spare microUSB wire tbh :/
I read so much myths in this thread concerning Li-Ion batteries.
First of all Li-Ion batteries do have instantly the capacity they are intended for. Even 5 charges won't change that. The only thing which can change over time and charge-cycles is your phone recognizing a new voltage level as "full" (read more: "calibrating htc desire battery") or you playing less with the phone or having power-consuming apps uninstalled.
Also a full first charge is not necessary. This "requirement" are from past days with NiCd or NiMH battery-types.
Read more: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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I read so much myths in this thread concerning Li-Ion batteries.
First of all Li-Ion batteries do have instantly the capacity they are intended for. Even 5 charges won't change that. The only thing which can change over time and charge-cycles is your phone recognizing a new voltage level as "full" (read more: "calibrating htc desire battery") or you playing less with the phone or having power-consuming apps uninstalled.
Also a full first charge is not necessary. This "requirement" are from past days with NiCd or NiMH battery-types.
Read more: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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The calibration during the initial week or so of using the phone arises from phone-side calibration, not the battery itself, which is why deleting battery stats from recovery can at times resolve battery issues :V
Phone didn't last half a day after flashing CM 6.1.1; after a couple of days I charged it to 100%, deleted the stats and voila, it's about as perfect as a terrible smartphone battery can get.
Since I'm going to buy it today, I have some questions about Defy+.
1. Does it shoot HD videos
2. How's the display in sunlight
3. How's battery life under normal, non hard usage
4. Any known issues?
1. Yes, after applying the 720p patch and build_prop.
2. Display is ok not so bad. Under a direct bright sunlight always give you headache no matter how good the screen is.
3. Should be around 48hrs under normal usage, but can go further if lowering clocking and Vsel.
4. Earpiece breakdown. Should be fixed for the Defy plus. Still recommended setting the earpiece volume below 12.
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Ok, so I bought it - it's quite a nice phone. I little slow...
And here's my first problem - the market updated, and now I can't download any apps, except via WiFi. On 2G/3G - it starts and a "!" sign appears in the notification bar and nothing happens. Tried cleaning market's cache - no good?
Any suggestions?
Edit-data saver was On not used to that.
After one day of usage I have some more questions:
1. I've installed Sygic Aura and even though it's not running, in battery usage it says 98% for it, and 4 hours after unplugging the charger I'm on 90% without any heavy usage.
2. Considering the low battery life - is there a way, or rom, which is AOSP or deblured, as you say, and how to install it
3. As I didn't create a motoblur account, it says that I can't check for updates - is there a workaround
4. Even though I don't have a motoblur account, there are a huge amount of even foreground motoblur processes that obviously eat my battery
My previous phone was with a 1500mAh battery and lasted longer than 2 days. This one can't cope with 1, with the same usage....
More asking soon
after my adventure with the broken defy1 (defy minus) i should walk past the plus now,
but there is no other decent screen/ big battery/ 2.3/ and acceptable price,
there is the xperia ray, but its smaller and not rugged
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After one day of usage I have some more questions:
1. I've installed Sygic Aura and even though it's not running, in battery usage it says 98% for it, and 4 hours after unplugging the charger I'm on 90% without any heavy usage.
2. Considering the low battery life - is there a way, or rom, which is AOSP or deblured, as you say, and how to install it
3. As I didn't create a motoblur account, it says that I can't check for updates - is there a workaround
4. Even though I don't have a motoblur account, there are a huge amount of even foreground motoblur processes that obviously eat my battery
My previous phone was with a 1500mAh battery and lasted longer than 2 days. This one can't cope with 1, with the same usage....
More asking soon
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There's a lot of ways you can tweak and customise your new Defy to maximise the battery life. Some stock roms came with no blur and some custom roms came with overclock enabled. 3G/2G selection too playing big role in battery consumption as well as having data background auto sync. And knowing which app you must remove/freeze permanently is a way to avoid them from silently running in the background.
And since it is new, it must take a few charging cycle of the battery before it can be deemed working in full capacity.
I've tried numerous ROMs numerous times and I think I may have damaged my battery. It was over 50% whenever I had to do something with it so it's not that.
Battery drains quickly no matter which ROM I'm using and even when not in use, it drains 1-2% every minute. Just want to make sure if it is before I go out and buy a battery. I miss my 17 hours of general use and now I haven't even gotten close to that
What do you guys think? I've had this phone for almost a year now. 11 months and 20 days? LOL
You could try wiping the battery stats, or using lower voltages, or removing apps that use background services, etc.
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You could try wiping the battery stats, or using lower voltages, or removing apps that use background services, etc.
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I've done all that and still.1 hour off the charger and I'm at 68%
Batteries when put under stress will wear out. If you were trying roms that ran the battery extra hard, and you've had the phone for a while, you may just need a replacement.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
I thought people were just exaggerating (i still have hope that i'm exaggerating) but man, i just got this phone and holy hell is the battery getting destroyed by "android os"
It won't even last a day with minimal/medium usage (some bluetooth and hotspot use here and there)
I'm coming from a galaxy s3 (which had better battery life).
I've tried installing a 5.1.1 rom but it seems to have no effect.
Has anyone figured out how to 'fix' this? Or can recommend a good rom (or kernel?) to get battery life representative of what i think a 3000 mah battery should be?
Thanks.
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I thought people were just exaggerating (i still have hope that i'm exaggerating) but man, i just got this phone and holy hell is the battery getting destroyed by "android os"
It won't even last a day with minimal/medium usage (some bluetooth and hotspot use here and there)
I'm coming from a galaxy s3 (which had better battery life).
I've tried installing a 5.1.1 rom but it seems to have no effect.
Has anyone figured out how to 'fix' this? Or can recommend a good rom (or kernel?) to get battery life representative of what i think a 3000 mah battery should be?
Thanks.
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Greenify and the .97 OTA seems to provide decent battery life. Getting about 5 hours+ of SOT. Try using a separate app to see which apps are consuming the most battery and disable all the system apps you don't use.
I installed a barebones rom.
What concerns me is i had the same set up on my Galaxy S3 (5.1.1. lollipop with same apps), and the battery life on this zenfone has just been atrocious (leading me to believe 5.1.1 is not the problem, per se).
Am I wrong, did they not optimize this phone properly or something?
I do not have any issue with batery life. Mine last one day easy with medium to heavy use. Just do some charging cycles
I usually get a day with 4 to 6 hours SOT, without doing anything special to save battery
Do 3 drains to 1 % - you may find it stays longer during the lower 20% range so use a youtube film or sommat to blast it down,
then do a factory reset on the latest build.
Did this at the beginning when was only getting 10hrs max ugh !
Now easy 36hrs decent usage
I get a full days use (medium/heavy) with mine, not rooted not custom rom. I usually have about 20% left before it hits the charger. I have noticed small increases in battery life at every firmware update. I can't really complain, came from a Galaxy S5 and battery was about the same if not worst, but S5 had removeable battery. I've used a lot of smartphones and honestly, most will get your through the day and evening but that's about it, yeah, you might have some for the next day but most will through it on the charger by end of the night. My wife has the Iphone 4s and yeah, the battery lasts longer but the screen is almost half the size of mine, screen size makes a big dif.