Seicane Unit - Connected Car

Good Day
I am hoping to get some help from this Forum.
I have a Seicane Android Head Unit
PX5 - rk3368
Android 10
MTCE HF V3.55
Problem is that the screen on the head unit is very dark and the touch does not work.
My phone is connected via bluetooth and the strange thing when I receive a call the screen comes to life ... It is bright and works fine when the call is active. As soon as the call ends the screen goes dark and the touch stops working.
Any idea what is the cause and how to fix?
Thanks

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[Q] Help with new Headunit not powering off and some other minor problems

Hi all, new guy here with some problems.
I've bought a new headunit to replace my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD.
My car is an Skoda Octavia mk2 vRS year 2007, so any VW headunit should be OK in my car.
New headunit is a Joying Android 4.4.4 RK3188 with latest official firmware (June 2015).
I was trying to install it this morning for the first time and found several problems.
The most important one is the headunit doesn't power off even with my car completely shutdown and closed.
Headunit install instructions state there are two different methods to connect the headunit.
First and preferred one is using CANBUS decoder box, so headunit power is controlled through CANBUS decoder.
But if headunit doesn't power on when you turn on the car (that's happening to mine), you have to use second method: unplug CANBUS decoder box and connect ACC +12V red wires so that headunit gets powered.
With this second method the headunit starts up OK, but when i turn off the engine, take out the key or even close the car with remote control, headunit doesn't power off at all. I even tried to wait for 20 minutes but with no results. So i had to remove new headunit from the car to avoid battery drain...
I have upgraded firmware from Abril to June version so i got a new feature that allows to delay shutdown after ACC is off.
I set it to 30 seconds delay but still nothing. Headunit stays on.
I already asked to seller, and i'm waiting for an answer. But i thought maybe i could get some valuable ideas here at the forum.
Still don't understand why headunit is not powering on with CANBUS decoder connected. My car should support it, my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD is able to show climatronic info on display.
Other problems i found:
- Headunit buttons don't light even if i turn on car headlights. If i set button's colour in Settings\Elements buttons light for a pair of seconds to show new color, but then they go off again.
- I wanted to set Skoda logo at boot at Factory Settings but asks for a pin/password. Thought it was 126 but it isn't. What is the pin for Factory Settings?
- There's a slight buzzing coming from speakers when i turn on car headlights. That buzzing is not there with Skoda factory radio unit.
Long post, thanks in advance for your answers. :good:
Seems to me wrong or defected harness?
Does your car have factory amplifier? I had one that was making lot of issues. I figured out that the harness was the problem because they sent me a harness that is compatible with my factory head unit. But my car was standard trim that didnt include it. I had to cut one wire they told me to cut it. And it worked fine after that.
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Thanks for your answer Scorbion,
Seller is going to send me a new Canbus box decoder. We think it must be faulty, that's why headunit doesn't power on or power off with it. Without Canbus box, ACC coming from VW harness is not a real ACC but a +12V to battery, because VW factory radio does all through canbus, and so headunit is always connected and doesn't power off.
Will update info when i get the new canbus box from seller.
Thanks
Scorbion said:
Seems to me wrong or defected harness?
Does your car have factory amplifier? I had one that was making lot of issues. I figured out that the harness was the problem because they sent me a harness that is compatible with my factory head unit. But my car was standard trim that didnt include it. I had to cut one wire they told me to cut it. And it worked fine after that.
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GAF70 said:
Hi all, new guy here with some problems.
I've bought a new headunit to replace my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD.
My car is an Skoda Octavia mk2 vRS year 2007, so any VW headunit should be OK in my car.
New headunit is a Joying Android 4.4.4 RK3188 with latest official firmware (June 2015).
I was trying to install it this morning for the first time and found several problems.
The most important one is the headunit doesn't power off even with my car completely shutdown and closed.
Headunit install instructions state there are two different methods to connect the headunit.
First and preferred one is using CANBUS decoder box, so headunit power is controlled through CANBUS decoder.
But if headunit doesn't power on when you turn on the car (that's happening to mine), you have to use second method: unplug CANBUS decoder box and connect ACC +12V red wires so that headunit gets powered.
With this second method the headunit starts up OK, but when i turn off the engine, take out the key or even close the car with remote control, headunit doesn't power off at all. I even tried to wait for 20 minutes but with no results. So i had to remove new headunit from the car to avoid battery drain...
I have upgraded firmware from Abril to June version so i got a new feature that allows to delay shutdown after ACC is off.
I set it to 30 seconds delay but still nothing. Headunit stays on.
I already asked to seller, and i'm waiting for an answer. But i thought maybe i could get some valuable ideas here at the forum.
Still don't understand why headunit is not powering on with CANBUS decoder connected. My car should support it, my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD is able to show climatronic info on display.
Other problems i found:
- Headunit buttons don't light even if i turn on car headlights. If i set button's colour in Settings\Elements buttons light for a pair of seconds to show new color, but then they go off again.
- I wanted to set Skoda logo at boot at Factory Settings but asks for a pin/password. Thought it was 126 but it isn't. What is the pin for Factory Settings?
- There's a slight buzzing coming from speakers when i turn on car headlights. That buzzing is not there with Skoda factory radio unit.
Long post, thanks in advance for your answers. :good:
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i have the same problem. can u fix it?
Did you solve this canbus problem?
Yes, new can bus decoder did the trick.
Long time ago though...
Hardware solution trumps everything
Had the same issue. Im also waiting for the supplier to respond. In the meantime, I just pulled the acc pin off the box and connected the radio to cig. lighter possitive. Works.

Dasaita/Hotaudio after 2 weeks....

excessdivide said:
Hello everyone,
Big thanks to the heavy hitters here that are making these units actually usable!
I received my Dasaita HA5217-V600 two weeks ago and thanks to having previously scoured these forums, I was able to install it, in my 2016 Toyota Corolla, with relative ease. Everything worked better than expected, and I had great bluetooth sound, strong WiFi connections, my door and A/C controls appeared on screen, my SWC all matched and decent FM reception. My bluetooth OBDII adapter is arriving this week so I'll have to report back on that.
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My OBDII adapter arrived today and it immediately paired with my HU, and Torque Pro recognized it instantly! I'm thrilled at how easy this was.
For those interested, this is the adapter I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6HLRKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So to recap:
My unit is:
MTCD HA5217-V600
10.2 " PX5 1.6 gHz, Octa-core, 2Gb/32Gb
Malaysk v5 ROM and MCU: MTCE v2.65f
Installed in 2016 Toyota Corolla S (6 speaker audio w/o factory "Entune" navigation system) and Rockford-Fosgate Prime's in both front and back.
SWC = all preprogrammed settings match my OEM settings, although they are unconfigurable.
Bluetooth connections have not yet dropped, volume and clarity are on pair with my previous Pioneer HU
Panel buttons all work and LEDs are configurable
Door and A/C controls all appear on screen.
GPS is fast and seemingly accurate so far. Recognized by every app that has looked for it.
OEM vehicle status listed properly in the 'vehicle' section
Amp/Fader/ViperFX all work as expected
WiFi connections are strong enough for my purpose. I can connect to my home WiFi from inside my garage.
AM/FM Reception and clarity are better than the stock system
Screen is bright and usable and auto-dims with Headlights on
Daylight brightness is a little difficult to see. (Then again I live in Florida and the tropical Sun made even my JVC, and Pioneer HU's difficult to see. Kenwood was the best for this IMHO)
OBDii interfaced paired quickly and easily and has so far stayed connected and recognized by apps
OEM Rear-view camera connects to the system without issue and is much easier to see on a 10" screen. As well as now having several configurable options in the "factory settings"
OEM USB port is recognized as well as the 2 additional USB ports included with the HU.
HOWEVER, the OEM AUX audio port is not usable with this configuration. (or if it is, I haven't figured out how to configure/access it yet)
I do not have a DAB+ or Front Camera, TV tuner/DVR so I do not have any information to share about those.
I tested the A/V in with a portable DVD player and there were no unusual issues there.
Over all I am very happy with this unit and am thrilled that I took the risk investing in it.
One more BIG thanks to everyone here who has helped to make these HU's worth it!
Thanks for the detailed write up. I just ordered mine. Px5 7 inch 2gb ram dasaita. Any tips for a newbie? I've been browsing the forums myself for the past couple of weeks and I'm aware of all the mods and custom ROMs etc. Just asking you if there's maybe any advice you wanna give on how I should proceed with the unit or just generally anything that might help.
Appreciate any reply
I have Dasaita/Hotaudio HA2100-v600 7" device and happy - it works here good!
@ Nasty_z: Stock rom & MCU and ModRom
excessdivide said:
My OBDII adapter arrived today and it immediately paired with my HU, and Torque Pro recognized it instantly! I'm thrilled at how easy this was.
For those interested, this is the adapter I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6HLRKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So to recap:
My unit is:
MTCD HA5217-V600
10.2 " PX5 1.6 gHz, Octa-core, 2Gb/32Gb
Malaysk v5 ROM and MCU: MTCE v2.65f
Installed in 2016 Toyota Corolla S (6 speaker audio w/o factory "Entune" navigation system) and Rockford-Fosgate Prime's in both front and back.
SWC = all preprogrammed settings match my OEM settings, although they are unconfigurable.
Bluetooth connections have not yet dropped, volume and clarity are on pair with my previous Pioneer HU
Panel buttons all work and LEDs are configurable
Door and A/C controls all appear on screen.
GPS is fast and seemingly accurate so far. Recognized by every app that has looked for it.
OEM vehicle status listed properly in the 'vehicle' section
Amp/Fader/ViperFX all work as expected
WiFi connections are strong enough for my purpose. I can connect to my home WiFi from inside my garage.
AM/FM Reception and clarity are better than the stock system
Screen is bright and usable and auto-dims with Headlights on
Daylight brightness is a little difficult to see. (Then again I live in Florida and the tropical Sun made even my JVC, and Pioneer HU's difficult to see. Kenwood was the best for this IMHO)
OBDii interfaced paired quickly and easily and has so far stayed connected and recognized by apps
OEM Rear-view camera connects to the system without issue and is much easier to see on a 10" screen. As well as now having several configurable options in the "factory settings"
OEM USB port is recognized as well as the 2 additional USB ports included with the HU.
HOWEVER, the OEM AUX audio port is not usable with this configuration. (or if it is, I haven't figured out how to configure/access it yet)
I do not have a DAB+ or Front Camera, TV tuner/DVR so I do not have any information to share about those.
I tested the A/V in with a portable DVD player and there were no unusual issues there.
Over all I am very happy with this unit and am thrilled that I took the risk investing in it.
One more BIG thanks to everyone here who has helped to make these HU's worth it!
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Hi, I'm a fellow Corolla owner in FL As well!
I just bought a Dasaita PX3 2GB RAM 16GB (Quad core vs your 8 core PX5 due to it being close to $300 flat on an ebay flash sale) and have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
I appreciate your very detailed post as I'm patiently waiting for mines to arrive within the next week.
gab2012 said:
Hi, I'm a fellow Corolla owner in FL As well!
I appreciate your very detailed post as I'm patiently waiting for mines to arrive within the next week.
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I have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
*Sad to say that I have not yet found a way to use the AUX port, but then again I haven't tried very hard.
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
*I mounted mine on the passenger side dashboard, as far right and forward as it would go. It blends right in as far as I am concerned.
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
*I Bought Car Launcher Pro. By far the best overall. It has been steadily updated, has a great look/feel, easy to modify and the most stable.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
*Nothing that I can think of. I'm still in love with it!
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
*I don't use Google Maps, but I have Waze autostart. I'm dependent upon it now! Lots of threads here about Google Maps not working well.
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
*as of HA-2.75 it does.
You |may| have to trim a piece or 2 off the bezel to get it to fit perfectly in your dash. I had to cut off 2 tabs on top of my PX5.
Good luck!
I have a similar 9" unit.
Running Malaysk v5 ROM and MTCE v2.71 as the bluetooth for 2.75 didn't work well.
I do have the DAB+ aerial and app and it works ok however mostly I use Google music. I have no problems using Waze or copilot.
What I haven't been able to do is get my reversing camera to show on the screen. I have a wireless version and both halfs have leds that light up when the car is in reverse but no picture regardless of which connection I use.
Also I can't get it to connect to a ELM357 OBD2 dongle.
I've had the unit for 4 months and last week while driving to work the screen went black, the unit was still working it was just the screen. The next time I started the car the screen came back....weird.
Other then this the units ace!
excessdivide said:
I have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
*Sad to say that I have not yet found a way to use the AUX port, but then again I haven't tried very hard.
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
*I mounted mine on the passenger side dashboard, as far right and forward as it would go. It blends right in as far as I am concerned.
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
*I Bought Car Launcher Pro. By far the best overall. It has been steadily updated, has a great look/feel, easy to modify and the most stable.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
*Nothing that I can think of. I'm still in love with it!
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
*I don't use Google Maps, but I have Waze autostart. I'm dependent upon it now! Lots of threads here about Google Maps not working well.
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
*as of HA-2.75 it does.
You |may| have to trim a piece or 2 off the bezel to get it to fit perfectly in your dash. I had to cut off 2 tabs on top of my PX5.
Good luck!
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Just to give you a quick update, I received my PX3 unit about a week ago and installed it. At first I encountered one main bug which was that the radio app would go to the background automatically every time I opened it, dasaita sent me the link to the MCU thread and everything updated fixing the issue.
As far as launchers go, I stuck with Car Web Guru for now as it gave the most options on a free basis to experiment with different themes.
The only thing I've noticed is that the backup camera image is a little laggy but nothing to die for.
The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is how to get my wifi hotspot to start automatically (Note 8) when connected to CAR KIT, I tried tasker but it says unable for my device.
I love this HU! and Dasaita on ebay has been very responsive.
gab2012 said:
Just to give you a quick update, I received my PX3 unit about a week ago and installed it. At first I encountered one main bug which was that the radio app would go to the background automatically every time I opened it, dasaita sent me the link to the MCU thread and everything updated fixing the issue.
As far as launchers go, I stuck with Car Web Guru for now as it gave the most options on a free basis to experiment with different themes.
The only thing I've noticed is that the backup camera image is a little laggy but nothing to die for.
The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is how to get my wifi hotspot to start automatically (Note 8) when connected to CAR KIT, I tried tasker but it says unable for my device.
I love this HU! and Dasaita on ebay has been very responsive.
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Hello I have bought a Dasaita HA2039-S720 for Mitsubishi Outlander 2014. I have the same Issue with my Radio App. Everytime I open it, it goes in background. Kill it with the Task Manager can't stop the Music. I have to reboot the Device. I have MCU Version MTCE_HA_V2.75.1 and ROM px3-userdebug 7.1.2NHG47L eng.hct.20171206.143935 test-keys.
Did a system update realy fix your Problem? I noticed that this happend every time a station is scanned and saved. Delete the Cache and Programm Data from Radio App in the App section fixed the issue but you have no music then but white noise.
I have some Issues with apps in general. Sometimes Apps are crashing and did not load properly and stuck while loading.
My OEM Rear CAM Image is laggy and not very smooth too.
Today I tried to update die Rom with this Version HCT2_px3_7.1(20180206) but it failed. Don't know if it's the right one. The Device found this Image and promptet me to update. After a short loading screen a Faild message appeared on the screen and it showed an options screen. I inserted another SD CARD with the image of the update and choosed "update from SD or USB" but it failed again so I rebooted the system. I choose swipe in the beginning and after a reboot the system was in factory condition.
But can anybody explain me what went wrong and how to properly make a Rom and MCU update.
Thanx
Hey guys I just wanted to become a part of this I just purchased and installed this type radio along with the Bluetooth adapter for the cars computer. Hopefully I will soon get the ATSC digital antenna so I can watch TV when my wife goes in to shop for something that will supposedly: "only take a minute." I have to say the install was incredibly easy. Everything works very well and sounded great connected to my factory system of the 2013 Kia Optima. I did use the radio's subwoofer output and added a 300 watt powered Rockford Fosgate subwoofer. It all sounds amazing together. I attached two photos of the type of radio I purchased (or tried to. Kinda new here).
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I am looking at one of these model for my Ford Focus, but can anyone tell me if it come with a separate canbus?? The only reason I am asking is that I have the V840-8 which doesn’t.... unfortunately it only has a prgramable key control, which doesn’t always work...
Many thanks for anyone that can help
Bradsr12 said:
I am looking at one of these model for my Ford Focus, but can anyone tell me if it come with a separate canbus?? The only reason I am asking is that I have the V840-8 which doesn’t.... unfortunately it only has a prgramable key control, which doesn’t always work...
Many thanks for anyone that can help
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Hello
i don't know which model Focus you have. I have a Focus MK3 from 2012 and i just ordered this unithttps://nl.aliexpress.com/item/Dasaita-Android-8-0-4g-32g-Car-Radio-for-Ford-Focus-2012-2013-2014-2015-Multimedia/32889176494.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1e934c4diSRsuQ
and it comes with a canbus adapter and works great. i received it today and installed it. Everything works out of the box.
Thank you so much for your reply, mine is the Ford Focus mk2 2010 so slightly different, however despite the stereo surround the unit is the same, it the harness is a different connection... mine is a square connection
Really appreciate your help
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May I ask if yours is the V600??
Bradsr12 said:
Thank you so much for your reply, mine is the Ford Focus mk2 2010 so slightly different, however despite the stereo surround the unit is the same, it the harness is a different connection... mine is a square connection
Really appreciate your help
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May I ask if yours is the V600??
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http://www.hot-audio.com/category/Ford-3.html
I tink they have a car specific unit for you too. Just check out their site. The benefits of these units is that it will fit perfect in your car and all cables and adapters are included...
Btw I have a v840-8 unit
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I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
scotch&dry said:
I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
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My Dasaita PX5 4/32 unit (MCU version 2.88) turns completely off in 30 seconds (lowest preset in system settings) after turning the ignition off.
When turning the ignition on the unit is starting up behind the scenes. When you press power it's already half way in the booting process or even done depending on how quick you switch the unit on.
I'd say about 15 seconds to boot up. This is with a DAB+ unit and USB stick attached.
If you want instant on (e.g. when shopping for an hour or doing multiple deliveries), you can play with the different off time presets in the system settings.
TBM2 said:
My Dasaita PX5 4/32 unit (MCU version 2.88) turns completely off in 30 seconds (lowest preset in system settings) after turning the ignition off.
When turning the ignition on the unit is starting up behind the scenes. When you press power it's already half way in the booting process or even done depending on how quick you switch the unit on.
I'd say about 15 seconds to boot up. This is with a DAB+ unit and USB stick attached.
If you want instant on (e.g. when shopping for an hour or doing multiple deliveries), you can play with the different off time presets in the system settings.
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Awesome. Thanks for this info @TBM2
How good is the microphone performance? I have an old android headunit that I could never get mics to work properly on. Voice calls and "Okay Google" is important for me when I upgrade.
Grims said:
How good is the microphone performance? I have an old android headunit that I could never get mics to work properly on. Voice calls and "Okay Google" is important for me when I upgrade.
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It's an MTCD - they're pretty much all the same.
For best peformance on this platform, use an external mic, which may require the internal disconnected.
marchnz said:
It's an MTCD - they're pretty much all the same.
For best peformance on this platform, use an external mic, which may require the internal disconnected.
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Sorry, I'm just curious as I just got one for my car installed... but the internal microphone performance is horrible. The box came w/ an external microphone, but is there something i need to do to disable the internal microphone?
scotch&dry said:
I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
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Like any MTCD unit, first boot is approx 15-20 secs, with the unit sleeping thereafter resulting in 'instant' resume.
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PX5 MTCE Hizpo 4Gb RAM 32GB ROM radio app error

Hello every one.
I have a problem with my HU its a HIPZO MTCE octa core android 8.0.0.
The problem is that the radio application does not always work. Sometimes it works normally but most of the time the application starts but no sound is heard or tuned to FM or AM stations.
When it is working incorrectly it will not be corrected even if I turn off and then turn on the device or engine of the car. The next day it may work and it may not, 1 to 10 work OK.
When it is working properly, there is no malfunction until I switch off the head unit or the car.
Can anyone help please?

Dasaita HA2186-Max6 HELP No SOUND and other issues.

I installed my new Dasaita Max6 head unit yesterday, and have a slew of issues.
If someone could please advise...
I have a 2012 Chevy Traverse LTZ.
I have a PAC RP5-GM31 Radio Replacement Interface https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B009P8A044/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Issues:
The sound was working until I updated the firmware. I ran the HA2_rk3399_9.0_ota(20190611) and the MTCE_HA_V3.37 .
Now all the sound I get is the beeping from the volume buttons and such, I get NO sound from Radio or BT music.
IF I connect the Backup wire to the appropriate wire on My PAC, the Max6 gives me a yellow triangle on the screen and I can't get past it.
So I don't have a trigger for my back up cam to turn on.
I can't connect the MAX6 to my Verizon Note 10+ hotspot, without disabling the 5ghz option on my phone's hotspot. Odd?
So all of this makes my unit unusable.. Not sure if I should return it, and get another, or if there are fixes for these issues.
Who do I contact to get help???
Update:
I ran the update with the dmcu again, and my sound came back.
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IT wont let me sign in to Google. it just spins and says " Couldn't sign in there was a problem communicating with the Google servers.
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Isudar PX6 Powering off after 5 minutes

Just installed an Isudar 1280x720 DSP MTCE GS PX6 in my VW T5 van. Still early days but it seems to be superior to my old PX5 MTCD GS in every way.
However one thing is a bit annoying: My old PX5 would stay on if the key was in the ignition, even in the OFF position - great for listening to radio or music when parked, and great for large downloads over WiFi e.g. SatNav maps. The new PX6 turns off (goes into sleep mode) 5 minutes after I turn the ignition OFF.
Does anyone know of a way to stop it turning off until I take the key out? Like my old PX5?
The Setting->Shutdown Delay after ACC Off doesn't do it - I think this just affects how long after turning itself off (by going into sleep mode) it then does a real shutdown.

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