Market filters:
When a user searches or browses in Android Market, the results are filtered, and some applications might not be visible. For example, if an application requires a trackball (as specified in the manifest file), then Android Market will not show the app on any device that does not have a trackball.
The manifest file and the device's hardware and features are only part of how applications are filtered — filtering also depends on the country and carrier, the presence or absence of a SIM card, and other factors.
Changes to the Android Market filters are independent of changes to the Android platform itself. This document will be updated periodically to reflect any changes that occur.
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Does anyone have any idea what the market filters are checking against?
That's not really a good reason to do anything, let alone not using 2.2
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That's not really a good reason to do anything, let alone not using 2.2
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Not being able to get apps? Did you read the link? Doubtful. Uh sure. Have fun with vanilla 2.2 and 0.0 apps.
I'm sorry, did you read your own link? If you had scrolled down, it shows several examples of what can be filtered. The filters are implemented by the application developer themselves, and if they don't, they still show up in the market.
Besides, filtering by the application has been in Android since 2.0. Any application that deems a device incapable of running it (for example, a lack of a light sensor) can stop itself from running.
some kind of filter (the ones I've heard of so far are incompatible screen resolution, unverified builds, and protected apps) is already being applied to 2.1 in the AOSP build. I couldnt see Yelp, the Android Community and TMZ apps for whatever reason
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Not being able to get apps? Did you read the link? Doubtful. Uh sure. Have fun with vanilla 2.2 and 0.0 apps.
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Oh yeah, how suspicious. French people couldn't possibly prefer apps in French and people with that new Dell pad thing probably still want SMS and contact apps.
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so you are saying not upgrade to 2.2 because marketplace will filter apps for our phone, but stick with 2.1 because it doesn't?
well genius, why don't you go and install http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.yelp.android on your phone and let us know how that 'no filtering' works out for you.
When I was running my Vougue we ran into this problem as well, its not a big deal at all. from what I remember it was checking about the build.prob and screen size that is setup in your startup. what I used to do was set my phone to my the specs for the G1, then install the apps after adjusting the density to fit everything on screen and then reboot using factory startup. it worked pretty well for most of the apps since many only blocked off whatever border the developer had.
heres the problem though but with the pace we are going it wont come up for a while, once we decide we have a rom stable enough to flash we lost the abilty to change the settings since WM is copletely gone and no haret was used. I switched over to the Touch Pro and we had the exact same problem which was solved in the EXACT way but we were not flashed still(TP2 still has a LOOOONG way to go sad to say), kept the touch pro 2 for only a few weeks before they replaced my Sprint Line TP with a Touch pro 2 due to all the TP1 problems and i'm still saddened by the slow progress. I am a developer myself and even an avid budsmoker and was still able to help out. now Refer has done a great job but from my understanding he is just doing most changes to the Android Filesystem, theirs a couple other guys working on the kernels which would be were all the hardware problems are going to be fixed from. no matter what build we use something in the kernel is either not right, or we dont have the driver in place for Android itself and since we have few Hardware level developers working on these things it seems to be low progress.
I don't like phones that have anything on top of android, like Touchwiz for Samsung phones or HTC Sense on HTC phones. I noticed the LG G3 also has something on top of Android, so can that be removed and/or have regular Android installed on it?
U need a nexus
When we get aosp for it ya. As of right now, no.
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The G3 UI is barely different than the Nexus UI.
There may be a possibility AOSP will be ported in because the bootloader is unlocked.
Remember though, aosp doesn't have anything built in to utilize the IR blaster or knock on/off and the like. So, unless you can find 3rd party apps that take care of that, you'll lose out on built in features of the G3.
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The G3 UI is barely different than the Nexus UI.
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Remember though, aosp doesn't have anything built in to utilize the IR blaster or knock on/off and the like. So, unless you can find 3rd party apps that take care of that, you'll lose out on built in features of the G3.
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Knock on can be added at the kernel level. IR Blaster support is native in KitKat.
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The G3 UI is barely different than the Nexus UI.
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Huh? LG Home Launcher is completely different than stock Android.
Installing Google Now Launcher is the easiest way to run stockish setup. I'm sure there are tons of vanilla themes for all the popular launchers as well if aesthetics are what you're going for
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Knock on can be added at the kernel level. IR Blaster support is native in KitKat.
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Have you noticed that kernel support for knock-on always drained battery on other devices? The same will apply to the G3. Use of the low-power cores that the G3 uses for knockon is closed source and the source is only released to OEMs. Technically, all snap 800+ devices have the low power cores, but it's up to the OEM to enable them.
Kernel hacks to enable knockon keep the real cores awake while the phone is off, which is what causes the battery drain.
Not to mention, any third-party IR tool will never be nearly as good as the stock LG one.
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xlxcrossing said:
Huh? LG Home Launcher is completely different than stock Android.
Installing Google Now Launcher is the easiest way to run stockish setup. I'm sure there are tons of vanilla themes for all the popular launchers as well if aesthetics are what you're going for
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Here are the differences between a stock ROM vs skinned:
Launcher - most people run alternative launchers anyway so this is a moot point. And the Google Now Launcher is overrated anyway.
Native Dialer/Contacts app - not a huge deal.
Settings menu - besides the color, the only thing really different about LG settings is that it defaults to tabbed view which works a lot better at getting you to the settings you want quickly without having to scroll through a long list. If you like having to scroll through every single setting you don't need at the moment, however, you can switch to list view.
Keyboard - personal preference. I've been using SwiftKey since Gingerbread and it's my opinion that it's leagues better than the Google keyboard. I also think the LG keyboard is a step above Google's.
Native email and SMS apps - I've only ever used Gmail so I can't comment on LG's email vs Google's. We for the a messaging app, I'm pretty sure that Hangouts finally replaced it as the default (which I've been using since my Nexus 4).
Lock screen - I prefer LG's with or without knock code. Native shortcuts on the lock screen beats Google's plain lockscreen with only a camera shortcut.
Native camera/gallery - Google camera is available in the Play Store and I'm pretty sure Google got rid of the gallery app in favor of Google+ Photos. I don't see anything that makes the Google Camera better unless you take a lot of photo spheres.
Quick settings - first of all, stock Google quick settings are nearly useless since they're shortcuts, not toggles, and you can't change them. Quick settings is one of the biggest reasons to have a custom ROM on a Nexus phone. I like the style of LG quick settings because it's similar to CM's.
Did I miss anything?
Yeah, so I like I said, LG isn't that far from stock. It adds a ton of useful features over the bare bones that is stock while not differing too much in appearance. Besides, most of your time spent on your phone is in various apps that are all identical regardless of which device you're on.
The fact that you could write such a long post on the subject of them being so alike sorta disproves the idea that there's little to no difference between them. Of course Android features remain unchanged across different builds. Technically you could say any OEM skin over Android is "just like" stock based on this argument. It is in the sense that that they all add to the aesthetic of Android, but in essence there's basically stock android, vanilla, GPE, what have you and, well.....everything else.
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The fact that you could write such a long post on the subject of them being so alike sorta disproves the idea that there's little to no difference between them. Of course Android features remain unchanged across different builds. Technically you could say any OEM skin over Android is "just like" stock based on this argument. It is in the sense that that they all add to the aesthetic of Android, but in essence there's basically stock android, vanilla, GPE, what have you and, well.....everything else.
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Supporting my stance with examples doesn't disapprove anything.
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Supporting my stance with examples doesn't disapprove anything.
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Support your point you did not. Do a write up on your favorite apps and features you did. I'm glad you like your LG software, not the issue at hand though. The OP was asking about vanilla android and you essentially told them "why there's no difference". They are in search for something specific not to be swayed into liking what they currently have.
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Support your point you did not. Do a write up on your favorite apps and features you did. I'm glad you like your LG software, not the issue at hand though. The OP was asking about vanilla android and you essentially told them "why there's no difference". They are in search for something specific not to be swayed into liking what they currently have.
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I didn't do a write up of my favorite feature. I compared what little differences there are stock vs LG, backing up my claim that "LG isn't that far off from stock." I never claimed there was no difference — I said there is very little. And, what little differences there are, are minor since more time is spent in apps and system apps that define stock vs non are often replaced. I could switch to my Nexus 5 or 7 right now, continue this discussion or go back to what I was doing and the experience would be nearly identical (the not identical part being my screen's appearance when I press my recent apps button after I hit reply here).
So I'll continue to say, the LG UI isn't all that different from stock. Unless all you do is make calls and change settings. In which case, it's completely different.
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Have you noticed that kernel support for knock-on always drained battery on other devices? The same will apply to the G3. Use of the low-power cores that the G3 uses for knockon is closed source and the source is only released to OEMs. Technically, all snap 800+ devices have the low power cores, but it's up to the OEM to enable them.
Kernel hacks to enable knockon keep the real cores awake while the phone is off, which is what causes the battery drain.
Not to mention, any third-party IR tool will never be nearly as good as the stock LG one.
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No, no it does not. Kernel enabled wakeup only has a noticeable effect on battery on the Nexus 5 for the reasons you state, because the cores do not sleep. On every other phone the cores can sleep and battery drain is negligible. Smart IR is 100x better than Quick Remote, Quick Remote sucks to be honest.
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Are you?
Here are the differences between a stock ROM vs skinned:
Launcher - most people run alternative launchers anyway so this is a moot point. And the Google Now Launcher is overrated anyway.
Native Dialer/Contacts app - not a huge deal.
Settings menu - besides the color, the only thing really different about LG settings is that it defaults to tabbed view which works a lot better at getting you to the settings you want quickly without having to scroll through a long list. If you like having to scroll through every single setting you don't need at the moment, however, you can switch to list view.
Keyboard - personal preference. I've been using SwiftKey since Gingerbread and it's my opinion that it's leagues better than the Google keyboard. I also think the LG keyboard is a step above Google's.
Native email and SMS apps - I've only ever used Gmail so I can't comment on LG's email vs Google's. We for the a messaging app, I'm pretty sure that Hangouts finally replaced it as the default (which I've been using since my Nexus 4).
Lock screen - I prefer LG's with or without knock code. Native shortcuts on the lock screen beats Google's plain lockscreen with only a camera shortcut.
Native camera/gallery - Google camera is available in the Play Store and I'm pretty sure Google got rid of the gallery app in favor of Google+ Photos. I don't see anything that makes the Google Camera better unless you take a lot of photo spheres.
Quick settings - first of all, stock Google quick settings are nearly useless since they're shortcuts, not toggles, and you can't change them. Quick settings is one of the biggest reasons to have a custom ROM on a Nexus phone. I like the style of LG quick settings because it's similar to CM's.
Did I miss anything?
Yeah, so I like I said, LG isn't that far from stock. It adds a ton of useful features over the bare bones that is stock while not differing too much in appearance. Besides, most of your time spent on your phone is in various apps that are all identical regardless of which device you're on.
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Are you delusional? Look at the two side by side and tell me they look similar.
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I didn't do a write up of my favorite feature. I compared what little differences there are stock vs LG, backing up my claim that "LG isn't that far off from stock." I never claimed there was no difference — I said there is very little. And, what little differences there are, are minor since more time is spent in apps and system apps that define stock vs non are often replaced. I could switch to my Nexus 5 or 7 right now, continue this discussion or go back to what I was doing and the experience would be nearly identical (the not identical part being my screen's appearance when I press my recent apps button after I hit reply here).
So I'll continue to say, the LG UI isn't all that different from stock. Unless all you do is make calls and change settings. In which case, it's completely different.
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Hey that's weird, the messaging app looks nothing like the AOSP app. You know what else looks different? Gallery, Browser, everything about the settings, the status bar does NOT conform to having a quick settings panel separate from notifications, the dialer has tabs but looks completely different, the keyboard is different, the stock email app is different, hell the lock screen is different. Even the recent panel is nothing like stock, or the initial button layout. These are all things that OEMs change and it is 100% false to call Optmius UI close to stock android with so much of the system UI changed. Like someone said, every OEM skin is close to stock android according to your logic.
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Are you delusional? Look at the two side by side and tell me they look similar.
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Hey that's weird, the messaging app looks nothing like the AOSP app. You know what else looks different? Gallery, Browser, everything about the settings, the status bar does NOT conform to having a quick settings panel separate from notifications, the dialer has tabs but looks completely different, the keyboard is different, the stock email app is different, hell the lock screen is different. Even the recent panel is nothing like stock, or the initial button layout. These are all things that OEMs change and it is 100% false to call Optmius UI close to stock android with so much of the system UI changed. Like someone said, every OEM skin is close to stock android according to your logic.
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If I put my Nexus 5, Nexus 7, and G3 side by side, and press home, they would all look exactly the same. If I start using all three exactly how I normally use them, they'll still look exactly the same. Because I use the same apps on all of them. Through regular use, the only differences are the lock screen when I turn my screen on, the quick settings when I pull down the notification tray, and how recent apps are presented when pressing the recent app button. In normal use, there are hardly any differences. I use my phone. I use apps.
And did you even bother to read anything of what I posted? I mentioned the messaging app. I also mentioned how Google is moving away from it in their Nexus devices (everyone's obsession) and having Hangouts as the default. I couldn't even begin to tell you what the stock SMS app looks like on the G3 since I only use Hangouts.
I also mentioned the Gallery app and how that's another thing Google is moving away from in their Nexus devices in favor of Photos integration in Google+.
Browser, admittedly, I did neglect to mention. I only use Chrome so it didn't occur to me. I did ask if I missed anything, though, so don't get your panties in a bunch.
I also compared and contrasted the Settings (seriously, go back up and actually READ my post), as well as Quick Settings, Dialer, email app, keyboard, lock screen, and the recent panel. Look, if you're going to sit here and try to have an argument with me, at least look at what I posted. You're the kind of person who reads a news headline and instantly jumps to conclusions.
Let me repeat my original statement: the LG UI isn't that different from stock Android.
I know reading comprehension isn't your strong point, but that simple lone acknowledges that there are differences between the two. It's not claiming they are equal. It's simply stating that they are not vastly different. Yes, they are different. I'm very aware of that, coming from three Nexus devices. I'm saying they are not that different and that the differences are even less when you're using your phone.
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If I put my Nexus 5, Nexus 7, and G3 side by side, and press home, they would all look exactly the same. If I start using all three exactly how I normally use them, they'll still look exactly the same. Because I use the same apps on all of them. Through regular use, the only differences are the lock screen when I turn my screen on, the quick settings when I pull down the notification tray, and how recent apps are presented when pressing the recent app button. In normal use, there are hardly any differences. I use my phone. I use apps.
And did you even bother to read anything of what I posted? I mentioned the messaging app. I also mentioned how Google is moving away from it in their Nexus devices (everyone's obsession) and having Hangouts as the default. I couldn't even begin to tell you what the stock SMS app looks like on the G3 since I only use Hangouts.
I also mentioned the Gallery app and how that's another thing Google is moving away from in their Nexus devices in favor of Photos integration in Google+.
Browser, admittedly, I did neglect to mention. I only use Chrome so it didn't occur to me. I did ask if I missed anything, though, so don't get your panties in a bunch.
I also compared and contrasted the Settings (seriously, go back up and actually READ my post), as well as Quick Settings, Dialer, email app, keyboard, lock screen, and the recent panel. Look, if you're going to sit here and try to have an argument with me, at least look at what I posted. You're the kind of person who reads a news headline and instantly jumps to conclusions.
Let me repeat my original statement: the LG UI isn't that different from stock Android.
I know reading comprehension isn't your strong point, but that simple lone acknowledges that there are differences between the two. It's not claiming they are equal. It's simply stating that they are not vastly different. Yes, they are different. I'm very aware of that, coming from three Nexus devices. I'm saying they are not that different and that the differences are even less when you're using your phone.
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It's nice how you immediately jump to assumptions and insults, shows how big of a person you are. No I did not bother to read your full post because your argument is fundamentally flawed. You just admitted in your post that you use the same apps on both phones and don't even know what the G3 messaging app looks like. Take a look at Optimus UI and its versions of the AOSP counterparts and tell me they are not that different. It is obvious even looking at the default home launchers they are vastly different. It's also obvious if you are using the same replacement apps on both they will look the same, that's not the point. If you use the same replacement apps on an HTC with Sense or a Samsung with Touchwiz of course you will have the same experience.
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It's nice how you immediately jump to assumptions and insults, shows how big of a person you are. No I did not bother to read your full post because your argument is fundamentally flawed. You just admitted in your post that you use the same apps on both phones and don't even know what the G3 messaging app looks like. Take a look at Optimus UI and its versions of the AOSP counterparts and tell me they are not that different. It is obvious even looking at the default home launchers they are vastly different. It's also obvious if you are using the same replacement apps on both they will look the same, that's not the point. If you use the same replacement apps on an HTC with Sense or a Samsung with Touchwiz of course you will have the same experience.
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I'm jumping to assumptions because your replies only demonstrate that you saw that you had a disagreement with me and didn't bother read past that. Which you confirm. We're done. If you can't bother to even read what I have to say before, then I can't be bothered to continue to have this one sided discussion. Go about your day.
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I'm jumping to assumptions because your replies only demonstrate that you saw that you had a disagreement with me and didn't bother read past that. Which you confirm. We're done. If you can't bother to even read what I have to say before, then I can't be bothered to continue to have this one sided discussion. Go about your day.
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Excellent copout.
johnael7 said:
I don't like phones that have anything on top of android, like Touchwiz for Samsung phones or HTC Sense on HTC phones. I noticed the LG G3 also has something on top of Android, so can that be removed and/or have regular Android installed on it?
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Eventually we'll have aosp, and alot of LG features wont work, some people will get working but most will not.
And to be honest the UI isnt ugly in anyway its nice and i can live with it along with all the features it presents, should try to like it since we wont have AOSP for whileeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I'm thinking of buying a G4 to replace my Galaxy S4, but want to make sure that the G4 can match the S4's multi-window feature - i.e. the ability to open any 2 apps in multi-window mode. For example, I frequently have Beyondpod and Google Maps or Waze open side-by side when I'm in the car.
I heard somewhere that the G4 has only a limited number of apps that are enabled for multi-window use. Is this true and if so, is there a hack or workaround that will enable multi-window for ANY app?
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I'm thinking of buying a G4 to replace my Galaxy S4, but want to make sure that the G4 can match the S4's multi-window feature - i.e. the ability to open any 2 apps in multi-window mode. For example, I frequently have Beyondpod and Google Maps or Waze open side-by side when I'm in the car.
I heard somewhere that the G4 has only a limited number of apps that are enabled for multi-window use. Is this true and if so, is there a hack or workaround that will enable multi-window for ANY app?
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Yes, there is a few build.prop edits to allow all apps open in the dual window mode (At least on the Sprint Variant it works). The only limitations i know of are you can't run the same app side by side meaning like Chrome in both windows.
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Yes, there is a few build.prop edits to allow all apps open in the dual window mode (At least on the Sprint Variant it works). The only limitations i know of are you can't run the same app side by side meaning like Chrome in both windows.
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Thanks - that sounds promising. What's the simplest way of doing the build.prop edits (e.g. is there an app that simplifies it?). Presumably root is also required?
I have about 10 icon packs that show up in dual window and actually work.. I got curious and dug into ones manifest file and theres just a line giving multiwindow permission to the app in its metadata and I am thinking it might be possible to hack an apps metadata file and add it without rooting and altering the build prop, I hate the limitation of just those couple stock apps and I don't wanna root this Verizon g4 until someone cracks the BL and cooks up an easier safer root method sooo… anyone have any ideas? I know apps can be hacked and altered to an extent without root just don't know how
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Check it out… https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B5fCzx364fZ4R09XV3REUWt2YWc/edit
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There is an app called flex multiwindow mod in the store, that allows all app to go into multiwindow mode.
Yep but it requires root which I want achieve without root and its totally possible if those icon packs can get in there… just will have to hack each app you want to window up and somehow add those metadata lines
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I believe there is something in xposed that helps add apps. and if not, just use the search, I ran across a thread on here to editing the build prop to allow more apps in muliwindow
Again that requires root and people should be able to put any app they want to in it cuz there's definitely tons of apps way better than the stock selection...just gotta figure out how to add those couple lines in the desired apps metadata and people would really benefit ...if I can get one of these are icon pack devs to tell me how they did it....wait I do know one..maybe more duh lol
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Thanks - that sounds promising. What's the simplest way of doing the build.prop edits (e.g. is there an app that simplifies it?). Presumably root is also required?
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Root is needed and you use a build.prop editor obviously...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t672hQ50UYg
People who wants tons of modifications without rooting.. this is nonsense.
Only root allows the users to do everything and unleash the true power.
bel57 said:
People who wants tons of modifications without rooting.. this is nonsense.
Only root allows the users to do everything and unleash the true power.
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True unfortunately, that's why I have a couple rooted phones but I can't afford risking my g4 just yet ..eventually it will be too I'm sure
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Risks? What?
Just go ahead, read the instructions and follow the guide to get unlocked bootloader. Install TWRP via the app.
Then flash Genisys ROM and enjoy.
Well I have no experience with doing that kinda stuff in a pc and haven't used a computer in years so I'm the risk lol I wanna practice with adb and all that cuz the g4 is not a simple process for most and damn sure not me. Plus my variant of the g4 the boot loader cannot be unlocked ..damn verizon
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If you have no experience then it's a bit complicated.. but all is very well explained and you can count on the community to get help. Wish you good luck if one day you decide to join the dark side.
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If you have no experience then it's a bit complicated.. but all is very well explained and you can count on the community to get help. Wish you good luck if one day you decide to join the dark side.
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Oh believe me I will as soon as I'm next to a pc again I won't be able to stop myself lol but I learned how to root ,flash roms , all the recovery tricks in less that 30 minute so I'm sure I'll be ok , also I've been a sound engineer in recording studios and concerts for almost 20 years so technical is my thing...I'm just clumsy sometimes lol thanks for the encouragement I'll see ya there [emoji48] [emoji48] [emoji41] [emoji41]
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I have an old tablet that's essentially unknown to the internet. The model number is AT-8077B(-USA), which apparently belongs to the manufacturer Asiatech 52, but I also found the manufacturer listed as "intel" somewhere during my rooting attempts. Either way, this device seems to be rather rare and obscure. It also seems to have an OEM that lacks the update functionality entirely. There's nothing regarding updates anywhere in the Settings app. The fccid.io website has a User Manual for it, but that doesn't have anything at all more advanced than turning it on, charging it and using the Browser app.
Since it's very old, it has Android 4.4.4 installed, which is essentially useless nowadays. As far as I could tell, anything remotely modern needs Android API 21+ because of TLSv1.2 support, so the tablet, while in good shape technologically, is essentially unusable.
I'm now trying to get anything with API 21 or higher onto this thing. I managed to root it with iRoot, but I'm completely lost regarding a modern Android. I thought if I can't find an actual Android build to put on it, I could use a custom ROM, but every guide I found has huge warning boxes telling me I need to follow the exact steps for my specific device at one point or another, and those simply don't exist.
I there some kind of generic guide (and ROM) I can use to get this tablet to operate with API 21+? I don't need a whole lot from it, but it's barely managing to load some websites while most apps either crash or fail to load anything, both of which I've deduced are caused by the outdated TLS/Android API. I really don't care what exactly ends up on the thing as long as I can install APKs and use them without getting error messages regarding API 21+.
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I have an old tablet that's essentially unknown to the internet. The model number is AT-8077B(-USA), which apparently belongs to the manufacturer Asiatech 52, but I also found the manufacturer listed as "intel" somewhere during my rooting attempts. Either way, this device seems to be rather rare and obscure. It also seems to have an OEM that lacks the update functionality entirely. There's nothing regarding updates anywhere in the Settings app. The fccid.io website has a User Manual for it, but that doesn't have anything at all more advanced than turning it on, charging it and using the Browser app.
Since it's very old, it has Android 4.4.4 installed, which is essentially useless nowadays. As far as I could tell, anything remotely modern needs Android API 21+ because of TLSv1.2 support, so the tablet, while in good shape technologically, is essentially unusable.
I'm now trying to get anything with API 21 or higher onto this thing. I managed to root it with iRoot, but I'm completely lost regarding a modern Android. I thought if I can't find an actual Android build to put on it, I could use a custom ROM, but every guide I found has huge warning boxes telling me I need to follow the exact steps for my specific device at one point or another, and those simply don't exist.
I there some kind of generic guide (and ROM) I can use to get this tablet to operate with API 21+? I don't need a whole lot from it, but it's barely managing to load some websites while most apps either crash or fail to load anything, both of which I've deduced are caused by the outdated TLS/Android API. I really don't care what exactly ends up on the thing as long as I can install APKs and use them without getting error messages regarding API 21+.
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Well.. if It's obscure, I don't think some developers made some roms for it yet.. However, you can use older versions of those apps or basically use alternate versions. If you're looking for Firefox, you can install the latest APK that supports Android 4.4.4. I use Android 4.4.4 still, and I understand the TLSv1.2 support is mere non-existant, and the best way to get app support is to use the latest version that supports API 21. Still though, I don't think there's any ROMS or custom recovery for your tablet (I don't know if CWM or TWRP is released for it), however you can still utilize the tablet even with its age.
Is there a chance I can just use something that's not tailor-made for it and still be fine or is it essentially guaranteed I'll brick it if I use anything that's designed for a different device?
scenia said:
Is there a chance I can just use something that's not tailor-made for it and still be fine or is it essentially guaranteed I'll brick it if I use anything that's designed for a different device?
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Thing is using something designed for a different device... will always almost guarantee you will turn your tablet to a brick.