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Get it or no

Well im just asking if i should get it or no.
I want to replace my laptop with it and a small keyboard. 10.5 LTE with Supposatly the Samsung exynos that is a 8 core but seem it not in reality like samsung lied
I want to hear the good and bad.
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EDIT : Hello bonami2 , I posted the reply below before i realized it was you from NBR Forum, Welcome to XDA
It depends on what you want to do, if you want to watch video`s most of the time, get it, it has an amazing display, if you want to browse the internet most of the time, dont get it as the oled display eats the battery when it shows white, you are better of getting an lcd tablet, gaming kills the battery on all tablets so it does not make that much difference between oled and lcd.
You can get browsers that have night mode, where white is black so it save a load of battery power but it looks like crap.
John.

Don't get it. Poor battery life in general. Horrible idle battery life with Lollipop. The CPU is outdated by now. If you have to get a large screen tablet right now, go with Ipad Air 2 or Google Nexus 9. Moreover, we're slowly approaching the holiday season. Normally all new products are released in the second half of year. Even Samsung's Tab S replacement is rumored to be arriving in the second half of this year.

Akopps said:
Don't get it. Poor battery life in general. Horrible idle battery life with Lollipop. The CPU is outdated by now. If you have to get a large screen tablet right now, go with Ipad Air 2 or Google Nexus 9. Moreover, we're slowly approaching the holiday season. Normally all new products are released in the second half of year. Even Samsung's Tab S replacement is rumored to be arriving in the second half of this year.
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The new cpu for the tab s2 is supposate to be only 50% better in singlethread. and Enable the hmp to use the 8 core and have a higher clock and new architecture.
But at the end my 4 old Galaxy nexus from samsung from like 2011 2012 is still able to browse website with it old crappy dual core ahah. with 1/6 the singlethread
Poor battery life well i seen 15 hour of movie time with black movie. Using Dolphin and A night mode should allow to have better battery.
Not interrested in any apple product even if i was forced to.
At the end there is nothing on the market that seem worth the money. Except the tab s and i do know how to save battery with the recent research and own experience with my old Amoled phone.
So im gonna try it and return it if im not happy
And put the money toward some gpu
Anyways im getting it mid july and i heard it could be released in that time frame. Will see.
Thank you for all the negative

I have no problem with battery usage. It lasts a long time for me.
Tablet design is one of the best, the screen is fantastic. No issues with lag in normal day to day usage.
Websites with heavy usage of ads and graphics, can exhibit a little lag, but nothing out of the ordinary or that bothers me.
Sound quality is great. Touchwiz isn't the best implementation of an interface, not compared to HTC sense on my M8. However all in all quite happy with it.

And yea it me from nbr decided to post in case i could learn other stuff Google is good but we never have enough info
Thank you

ashyx said:
I have no problem with battery usage. It lasts a long time for me.
Tablet design is one of the best, the screen is fantastic. No issues with lag in normal day to day usage.
Websites with heavy usage of ads and graphics, can exhibit a little lag, but nothing out of the ordinary or that bothers me.
Sound quality is great. Touchwiz isn't the best implementation of an interface, not compared to HTC sense on my M8. However all in all quite happy with it.
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Thank you
Tested something with my nexus 5
Chrome is laggy when moving page the finger move faster than the browser
Dolphin go as fast as my finger can go on the screen and doest lagg at all or almost. Sure heavy page are slow to load.
Im mostly interrested in the multitasking thing samsung made i tried it on the old Note 2 and it work fine

Ps i have a 6000mah external battery
Gonna use it to power the external hdd im gonna get later down the road.
100% laptop replacement with storage everywhere

What is "black movie" ?? or did you mean black mode?
John.
"Poor battery life well i seen 15 hour of movie time with black movie. Using Dolphin and A night mode should allow to have better battery"

Tinderbox (UK) said:
What is "black movie" ?? or did you mean black mode?
John.
"Poor battery life well i seen 15 hour of movie time with black movie. Using Dolphin and A night mode should allow to have better battery"
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Uh review was replaying Harry potter in loop for 15 hour
I mean Dark movie sorry
Am limited to 1 post each 4 minute ahah

The New S2 has an 4:3 display it has shown up on benchmarking apps, and the resolution is 2048x1536 that is an 4:3 aspect ratio like the iPad`s
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
The New S2 has an 4:3 display it has shown up on benchmarking apps, and the resolution is 2048x1536 that is an 4:3 aspect ratio like the iPad`s
John.
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Oh yea but 15 hour on the tab s 10.5
yea im staying aways from that crap 4:3 ratio i have no idea how people can like that i had a laptop with that ratio for about 10 years until the screen hinge broke + the battery + the screen itself go humidity stuck in the panel and the fan started rattling lol
Ended using it as a server and finnaly recycled it after it started sounding like an airplane

My battery monitor says around 12hrs video playback at hd resolution depending on how bright the video is, Harry Potter=Yes , Dune=No
John.
QUOTE=Bonami2;61650442]Oh yea but 15 hour on the tab s 10.5
yea im staying aways from that crap 4:3 ratio i have no idea how people can like that i had a laptop with that ratio for about 10 years until the screen hinge broke + the battery + the screen itself go humidity stuck in the panel and the fan started rattling lol
Ended using it as a server and finnaly recycled it after it started sounding like an airplane [/QUOTE]

My battery is ok. Not good overnight on standby so charge it or switch it off.
I get an occasional freeze on lollipop when watching films. Was no problem on kitkat. Hope the next release fixes the movie issue.
Love the design. If the s2 is even better I may be tempted - but not by a smaller screen (as suggested).
That's out in the next month or 2 isn't it? Why not wait. Then you can buy my S lol

My T800 only looses 1-2% in 16 hours according to the app below, how much do you loose, have you tried finding out what is causing your battery drain.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ck.batterymonitor&hl=en
John.

First of is this a very good tablet.... yes. There is a handful of flagship class tablets that are made for android and for the most part they each have small advantages and disadvantages over each other. The best thing you can do is figure out exactly what type of stuff you want to do on your tablet.
Second this tablet is a Big.little 2X quadcore, so calling it an octacore is both cprrect and deceptive at the same time. Honestly I have no clue if Samsung enabled HMP (heterogeneous multi processing- the ability to use both quad cores at the same time) or not but I have noticed that the tablet is usually more gpu bound then it ever gets processor bound. In practice the faxct that there are better processors out there (tegra k1) does not mean that this tablet can not handle almost any program you can throw at it (that runs on it-- no tegra zone or xcom).
Lastly I would not recomend this tablet, the nexus 9, Nvidia shield, Sony z4, or any other android tablet as a laptop replacement. Or to be more precise I could not use one in that role. It has nothing to do with speed, this tablet is far faster then the pentium 4m dell I used to have. It is not so much the size of the tablet the 10.1 inch screen is not much different then some ultrabook screens I have used. The main issue in using an android tablet as a laptop replacement is Android. If you could load linux on this tablet amd run it then it might be a little closer to a working replacement, but even then the arm architecture severely limits program compatibility. The lack of even 1 full sized usb port (yes I know it has otg) limits accessories that can be used.
If you only ever need to do some very light document editing, then yes this can replace a laptop. If you need to do more then that and you absolutly have to have a tablet form factor then buy a surface 3 (never a 1 or 2, windows rt is useless) or other x86 based windows 8.1 tablet. If you want the best of both worlds then for the price of a galaxy tab s abd a keyboard you can get a convertable tablet/laptop and have a laptop for heavy workloads and a tablet for fun all in one.

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First of is this a very good tablet.... yes. There is a handful of flagship class tablets that are made for android and for the most part they each have small advantages and disadvantages over each other. The best thing you can do is figure out exactly what type of stuff you want to do on your tablet.
Second this tablet is a Big.little 2X quadcore, so calling it an octacore is both cprrect and deceptive at the same time. Honestly I have no clue if Samsung enabled HMP (heterogeneous multi processing- the ability to use both quad cores at the same time) or not but I have noticed that the tablet is usually more gpu bound then it ever gets processor bound. In practice the faxct that there are better processors out there (tegra k1) does not mean that this tablet can not handle almost any program you can throw at it (that runs on it-- no tegra zone or xcom).
Lastly I would not recomend this tablet, the nexus 9, Nvidia shield, Sony z4, or any other android tablet as a laptop replacement. Or to be more precise I could not use one in that role. It has nothing to do with speed, this tablet is far faster then the pentium 4m dell I used to have. It is not so much the size of the tablet the 10.1 inch screen is not much different then some ultrabook screens I have used. The main issue in using an android tablet as a laptop replacement is Android. If you could load linux on this tablet amd run it then it might be a little closer to a working replacement, but even then the arm architecture severely limits program compatibility. The lack of even 1 full sized usb port (yes I know it has otg) limits accessories that can be used.
If you only ever need to do some very light document editing, then yes this can replace a laptop. If you need to do more then that and you absolutly have to have a tablet form factor then buy a surface 3 (never a 1 or 2, windows rt is useless) or other x86 based windows 8.1 tablet. If you want the best of both worlds then for the price of a galaxy tab s abd a keyboard you can get a convertable tablet/laptop and have a laptop for heavy workloads and a tablet for fun all in one.
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im mostly looking to browse internet and go on forum and listen to music and movie on the go
I think it fit perfectly. Anyways most current laptop are overpowered and windows cant even utilise the hardware correctly.
10hour battery life on a laptop is pretty hard to do

The review in the link below quotes approx 7.5 hrs internet browsing which is almost the lowest, but the video playback is the longest, have a read of the full review if you have not yet.
Try "UC Browser" it has the best night mode i have see.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uc.browser.hd&hl=en_GB
http://anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
The review in the link below quotes approx 7.5 hrs internet browsing which is almost the lowest, but the video playback is the longest, have a read of the full review if you have not yet.
Try "UC Browser" it has the best night mode i have see.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uc.browser.hd&hl=en_GB
http://anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
John.
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Will see i could maybe get the tablet the 5 :laugh:

If younare looking for multimedia playback (videos and songs) and some internet browsing then yes you are correct, you don't need a full sized laptop. Tbh you really do not need a seprate bluetooth keyboard for thst either and that was partly what I was basing the thought you might want to do more then that on the tablet. Word processing for a document of any reasonable length, is lously on android even with a bluetooth or usb otg keyboard.
If you want to watch movies or listen to music on the go do not forget to buy a microSD card, this tablet supports up to 128GB but 64GB is a far better value. 16GB (or even 32GB lte model) is not enough memory after programs and the OS to store more then a few hours of moderate quality (480p-720p) videos and evem kitkat reads multimedia from removable storage with out any need to mess around with roms or root. Heck it is the one thing Google thinks should go on a microSD card, that and pictures.

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Samsung Galaxy S10+ stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Even during intense benchmarking, it didn't heat up. You could feel a little warmth near the top of the back, but barely. No actual heat.

The phone heats up under these conditions: (Slow) wireless charging, downloading over LTE for an extended period, and playing games. For everything else it's comparable, yet, slightly warmer than my Note. The sensors report low 30s, whereas S10 is showing low 40s under the same apps.

My device feel kinda warm...no extensive gaming or something like that, after playing a bit and made antutu test,antutu reported that my cpu had 63 °C ..and 250k points.

If it feels warm do you have your brightness all the way up and max brightness? Also using it without a case? Think of how thin the device is and how good and bright the screen is heat is coming from screen you can feel when grabbing without case.

Getting hot while gaming
Playing Mobile Legends on High settings (Graphics - High, High Quality Display - On, High framerate mode - On, WQHD+) and the phone gets hot with just 1 game (approx. 15 minutes). Playing another game immediately results to less smooth gameplay. Not expecting this because we're supposed to have cooling

mackymariano said:
Playing Mobile Legends on High settings (Graphics - High, High Quality Display - On, High framerate mode - On, WQHD+) and the phone gets hot with just 1 game (approx. 15 minutes). Playing another game immediately results to less smooth gameplay. Not expecting this because we're supposed to have cooling
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Exynos?

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Exynos?
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Yes. Forgot to add I have a ceramic unit which I know is better than glass when it comes to temperature.

It doesn't get warmer than 30°C no matter the game or benchmark, the vapor cooling seems to do the job, Exynos.

mackymariano said:
Yes. Forgot to add I have a ceramic unit which I know is better than glass when it comes to temperature.
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https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/Galaxy-10-ceramic-back-512-GB-overheating/m-p/473143 this article puts me at ease, so I think I'm good

mackymariano said:
Yes. Forgot to add I have a ceramic unit which I know is better than glass when it comes to temperature.
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No, have a quick trip to your kitchen and think about all the ceramic tools you have, and why they are made of ceramic.
Ceramic can be both used in thermal isolation and dissipation, 90% of the time it is used to isolate, since it has to be processed specifically to do the opposite.
That's the price you have to pay for having the ceramic version, the back fails to lose temperature just like the average coffee can, it's not a big deal unless you run intensive tasks every day.

I am running an Exynos 512GB Cermaic Black S10 Plus. Even without any usage and phone left in idle mode.. CPU Monitor is showing the temperature as 38-40 degrees. My friends 128GB Prism White is always around 32 degrees. Even my Exynos Note 9 is around the same ball park. So I'm little worried about my nee S10 Plus. Ideally is shouldn't touch 40 degrees that too in idle mode right?

Verizon Snapdragon 1TB Ceramic Black here
My average temp is 90°F (32°C)
The hottest I have gotten this phone to go is 108.5°F (42.5°C) when I transferred my old SD card contents directly onto my phone's internal storage. I transferred about 60GB of data that took about 15 minutes max using Samsung's T5 external SSD connected directly to my phone. So not only was I transferring a lot of files but I was also powering an external device via USB. Gotta say, I am impressed at how well it performed.

Outbreak444 said:
Verizon Snapdragon 1TB Ceramic Black here
My average temp is 90°F (32°C)
The hottest I have gotten this phone to go is 108.5°F (42.5°C) when I transferred my old SD card contents directly onto my phone's internal storage. I transferred about 60GB of data that took about 15 minutes max using Samsung's T5 external SSD connected directly to my phone. So not only was I transferring a lot of files but I was also powering an external device via USB. Gotta say, I am impressed at how well it performed.
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My S10+ runs hot occasionally. Seems both clusters get stuck at max when idling.

Could somebody post a temperature graph from gsam battery monitor?

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That dragon ain't no joke. Wonder how he fares in a larger shell, like the S10 5G or N10.

Runs warmer than the note 9 did.View attachment 4759955View attachment 4759956
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mackymariano said:
Playing Mobile Legends on High settings (Graphics - High, High Quality Display - On, High framerate mode - On, WQHD+) and the phone gets hot with just 1 game (approx. 15 minutes). Playing another game immediately results to less smooth gameplay. Not expecting this because we're supposed to have cooling
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I play the same game with the same settings but i dont experience heat like you do.
Exynos s10+ here

The latest update (ASD8) brings great improvements to thermals. Much better than previous update, and initial fw from March. Samsung resolved the issue where LTE caused an unusual spike on U1.

Why I already sent my Note 20 Ultra back!

Well I am honestly shocked by this. I sort of expected the S20 Ultra not to meet my standards but not the Note 20 Ultra! Decided to stick with my Note 10+ for a bit until maybe Z Fold 2 or Note 20 Ultra drops in price or for another who knows how long.
Anyways thought I would share with you guys why I decided to stick with Note 10+ over the Note 20 Ultra.
First off the Note 20 Ultra is nowhere near a bad phone, much of an improvement over the S20 Ultra which I thought was junk. The main highlights of the device just didn't seem worth $1300+ to me.
Screen overall is literally just a hair bigger and actually a hair less vibrant and saturated then the Note 10.
Screen refresh rate still not sure why this is such a huge deal. Can you tell a difference? Yes slightly depending on what you are doing. Sort of like 4k on a tablet or small laptop really just not worth it imo
Cameras, oh yes the cameras. Glad to see the autofocus issue was fixed from the S20 Ultra and photos are great no matter what camera but the main sensor unless you are using the 108 mp for extreme detail and then you lose HDR look very similar to the Note 10. Only huge difference is the zoom lens on the Ultra and it is a big one. 5x zoom looks great and even 10x in most cases looks very good and usable. This is the only thing that made me actually want to keep the 20
Everything else is pretty much the same again as Note 10+ nothing else worth mentioning really
Few photos of the differences in whites and camera bumps and the pretty much same screens

Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.

denism81 said:
Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.
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Yeah I was reading reviews and wasn't pleased with what Samsung did.
The variable refresh rate is cool especially if it save battery, kudas there.
The cam has laser assist AF lock too I believe, well done.
5 G, good.
The fastest Snapdragon yet yields a real performance boost although the 10+ never seems slow.
The bad, price tag is through the roof for the 512gb model.
This Note is even harder to protect than the 10 due the cam hump. That also means it really needs a case. Reports of no factory screen protector, not good especially since you'll want to lay it face down because of the cam hump.
Doesn't hardware support AptX HD bluetooth, very disappointing.
Not enough gain to replace the Note 10+ however a good upgrade maybe for a Note 8 or older.
However the Note 10+ is still a viable option especially if you want Pie.
In 2 months my Note 10+ will be a year old and it's still looking great, running strong in fact better then it ever has. Truth be told I'm still learning to use many of its features... not bored or tired of it by a long shot.
Samsung gave nothing much new for HD audio in the 20; AptX HD should have been present... a 3.5 mm jack been nice too.
Samsung needs a top shelf flagship model to get many people to upgrade from the 10+; this isn't it.
Add to that the world economy is a mess.
Samsung should have tried harder and catered more to the performance crowd to set this new Note further apart from the 10+.
Part of the reason for the fail is Samsung doesn't listen to its customers very well. Oh well... I'll wait.

On my Note 10+ I want:
A) Better battery.
B) Better fingerprint sensor. I see new pixels keep them to the back side. Well done Google.
C) Get rid of the silly front camera hole.
As long as these don't change, there is no reason to upgrade for me. Software updates, unnecessary camera and screen changes does not attract me. Especially with that price tag.

Speaking for those of us who get the Exynos chipset... Samsung sucks balls...
Thery are selling INFERIOR hardware for the same price, this relegates the 120Hz refresh rate to HD+ only and NOT to UHD, not because the phone can't handle it but because the Exynos chipset can't. They can't give part of the world this and leave everyone else out in the rain as that would highlight the inadequacies of the Exynos.
Exynos throttles, is a bigger drain on battery, it alters the picture quality of photo's taken and Samsung have the balls to charge us the same as the Snapdragon 865+ chipset...
For this the can shove the Note 20 Ultra, big camera bump and all, where the sun don't shine...

The price is just pure GREED! Useless money spent on creap publicity!
Any "high end" phone with Exynos cpu is ****.
However 120hz screen is fine. For me. Don't care much for qhd+/8k bull****. On a phone screen ?!?
I like Note 10+ 5g for the square screen (very rare these days) and the design. Only minus for me is that the display could be at least 90hz.
A good thing on 10+ and 20 ultra is sd card slot.
I will never buy 20 ultra even if the price will be 500 euros with exynos cpu!

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Maybe enough returns will get Samsung's attention to listen to what their customers what... and don't want.
The large storage is great but not without easy 24 bit audio output. The 3.5 mm jack, there's room for it and spend the extra few cents for the bt chipset that supports AptX-HD.
Sad because this fix was easy and cheap to do.
This very expensive phone should have the best and latest chipsets in it, it doesn't. A locked bootloader doesn't give me any thrills either, Samsung Pay and Knox grrrr.
Fail, again.
As for the cams, at this price point buying a dedicated Canon for shooting makes more sense; much better interchangable optics and dedicated AF/image processors.
I use my 10+ more like a laptop than a cam...
That cam hump sucks and I see it as a major liability from a damage stand point. The Note 10+ is hard enough to protect, the 20 U is far worse.
Then there's wittle Bixby... other than it's cam smart functions it's completely worthless to me and a huge privacy invasive.
Wearables have the same privacy issues and need all the permissions under the sun to even load, really?
Samsung is very hard of hearing.
Kudos for jamming their Note 20 U were it belongs...

The only thing I wish Samsung would do for their camera is when you turn off hdr it actually turns off. So ridiculous. Hdr is always on no matter what you do. Besides switching to pro mode.

I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.

Agreed, the Note 20 Ultra is a bit too overpriced, $1300 for almost no improvement over the previous year's device? No thanks.

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I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.
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How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that

TonyGzl92 said:
How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that
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Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+

Raydianze said:
Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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When you first set it up, the battery estimate it gives is from the Android system's battery degradation estimates. I have another app that can see it as well.
It's overlay ma meter is useful.

Raydianze said:
Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.

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Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.
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I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.

blackhawk said:
I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.
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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.

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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.
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Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.

blackhawk said:
Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.
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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.

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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.
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The only things I have toggle in Device Care are Optimize for power setting and fast charging.
Then I disable Device Care.
Using the old factory load Pie version which has 360° on it. I use it's cache cleaner as it cleans well but I put in airplane mode first.
All buckets show as active in standby apps; no power management is active other than the embedded Android ones. Runs great

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-IT HAS 3.5MM JACK WITH EXCELLENT QUALITY AND EQ (I REALLY MISS ON ROG PHONE 3 AND MOST HIGH END SMARTPHONES)
-IT HAS PROBABLY THE LOUDEST SPEAKERS I' VE EVER HEARD WITH VERY GOOD QUALITY AND CLARITY+ OUDOOR MODE THAT BOAST TREBLE ( ROG 3 DOESN'T HAVE THIS AND ALSO QUIETER SPEAKERS WITH SIMULATED BASSES)
-IT HAS 2 STRONGER VIBEATOR MOTORS ( MOST PHONE INCLUDED ROG 3 HAS ONLY 1)
-4 WIFI ANTENNAS, 4 MICROPHONES
-FIRST 10BIT OLED HDR 120 HZ, 240HZ SAMPLING RATE DISPLAY WITH VERY GOOD DELTA ( QHD IS NOT NECESSARY UNLESS YOU USE VR, AND IT CONSUME MORE BATTERY AND LOWER THE FPS) 90HZ IS THE STANDARD BASE FOR 2020, FROM 60 YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE. 120 IS RECCOMEDED , 144 IS ONLY FOR EXTREME GAMING AND DRAIN A LOT. BUT UI,SOCIAL,GAMES BEST IS 120 FOR EYES
-RGB LOGO. THIS IS COOL FOR NOTIFICATION, DURING NIGHT , IT'S A DISTINGUISHABLE SPEC THAT PEOPLE WILL NOTICE.
-18W CHARGING WILL DEGRADE BATTERY LOWER THAN FAST CHARGER LIKE 65W OR 120 AND MY TIP IS TO CHARGE UP TO 80%. THIS PHONE ALSO SUPPORT 30W. SINCE THE BATTERY IS 6000 MAH I RECCOMEND BOTH . BOTH ARE SAFE
-FIRST ROG WITH ALMOST STOCK ANDROID.ANDROID 9 IS LATEST ROM THAT SUPPORT ALSO GLTOOL ( FUTURE PROOF TOOL FOR GPU DRIVERS) AND ALSO ANDROID 9 HAS RW SISTEM. I RECCOMEND THIS ROM BECAUSE A10 IS NOT AS OPTIMIZED AS A9 AND IT' S HAS LOTS OF PERMISSION THAT MADE MODS, APPS NOT COMPATIBLE. BATTERY IS ALSO BETTER IN A9
-AIRTRIGGERS
-FAST UFS 3.0 STORAGE, LOTS OF RAM STORAGE, LAG FREE DEVICE. COSTANT PERFORMANCE
-2 PORTS. USB 3.1 AND 2.0 FOR CHARGING AND REVERSE CHARGING
-GOOD CAMERA EIS( WITH GCAM YOU WILL DO MUCH BETTER PHOTOS AND VERY STABLE 60FPS VIDEOS)
- VERY FAST 855+ PROCESSOR DON'T OVERHEAT AND BETTER TEMPS THAN LATEST 800 SERIES SOCs.
-BEST ROG EVER MADE FOR AESTETIC ( ORANGE ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND THE SPEAKERS, BACK COVER HAS METAL COLOR, MORE COLORFUL ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND MORE SQUARE CAMERAS AND FRAME, IT HAS MORE GAMING LOOK.
THE CONS THAT NOT AFFECT MY DECISION TO BUY AGAIN THIS PRODUCT:
-NO IP RATING, FOR NORMAL USE LIKE RAIN IS PROTECTED SINCE THERE IS NO DIRECT CONTACT TO MOTHERBOARD
-NO WIRELESS CHARGING, I DON'T NEED AND USE I PREFER 3.5 MM JACK THAN THIS..
-NO OIS FOR CAMERA , GCAM WILL FIX THIS WITH NIGHT MODE AND THEIR AMAZING SHOTS AND VIDEOS ( MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A GAMING PHONE)
-NO DDR5 RAM OR LATEST SOC: 855 PLUS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SOC SINCE DOESN'T OVERHEAT A SINGLE DAY. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAN 865 OR 888. THESE OVERHEATS AS LOT OF REVIEWS. DDR4 RAM IS VERY GOOD IF YOU HAVE 8/12 GB ON A PHONE. NO DIFFERENCE IN REAL LIFE.
-NO 8K. NO NEED SINCE PANEL IS FULL HD AND YOU NEED 8K TV FOR SEE THE VIDEO RECORDED
-NO 5G. IT'S FASTER BUT DEPEND BY COUNTRY COVERAGE. THIS WILL DRAIN MORE BATTERY AND MAKE DEVICE HOT. FOR ME IS ENOUGH 4G+ SINCE IS MORE MATURE TECNOLOGY FOR MY NEEDS
-NO SD CARD( BUY 128 OR 512/1T STORAGE NO PROBLEM)
-WEIGHT( THIS IS VERY BALANCED ON ROG 2 TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THAT)
i bought again from giztop at very good price new for 459$ 8/128 gb is a lot for me and i SUGGEST as base in 2021 64gb at least, RECCOMENDED 128GB
i will modify some my post to get best possible user experience on this phone
thank you to all members to enjoy this forum

I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles

asdor said:
I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles
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Were thinking same

Are there xda awards for the most useless posts? I nominate yours.

Considering the dying PM 8150 chip state I would dare say it's literally impossible to argue that the rog2 is the best phone.

Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away

ianseer said:
Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away
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eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post

dvijetrecine said:
eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post
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quite sure he was being sarcastic

Danishblunt said:
quite sure he was being sarcastic
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i do hope that is the case, as OP is going a bit over the top

Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...

nguadien said:
Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Obviously my impressions with "latest updates" are very bad.
Every time an Android device update (or being forced to), battery life always downgrade or shortened, because phone providers want you to feel sluggish, slowed, outdated, inconvenient with your devices. Then you would want to buy newer models after 3 years.
My friends all used Oppo and Samsung. First stock roms always have best battery life and smoothest experience. Then things went down until 2-3 years later, when every devices become all laggy, jittery, battery hungry.

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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Ok now I updated my experience so far for Android 11:
2201.211 rom: Cannot root, even if I installed Magisk 24.3 FIVE times - yes I tried so many times and ways to install root
2111.160 rom: Can root after installing Magisk 24.3.
- I then used Mantis Gamepad Pro to use PS5 controller. After 2 days it stopped recognizing inputs.
- Without Mantis Gamepad Pro, I can use PS5 controller but of course cannot map properly in-game
- Battery draining rate with Bluetooth is very fast (even when the only app opened is Mantis Gamepad Pro + Ebook reader), -80% battery in 3 hours
=> I'm back to 1910.35 for Android 9 - doubled battery saving, better performance, no Mantis Gamepad Pro bugs
Also, I need to update two bugs in Android 11:
+ It does not accept chargers from other brands, for me it's TWO different Samsung 18W charger (Android 9 accepted them normally).
+ It does not accept charging after being drained to 0%. I accidentally slept when reading ebook, making it drop from 50% to 0% during the night.
Next day, no matter what kind of charger (Oppo, Samsung, Asus), it flashed green charging circle for 0.5s then screen off. I had to charge using Asus charger for 1 hour to bring it to 1%, then held Power key to enter OS. Then it did NOT accept charging, I had to re-plug Asus charger again to make it recognize charging.

gilsol said:
You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Android 11 has Accessibility bug that's not been fixed in any rom
Fake Camera app also cannot work on Android 11
Besides the better System UI and keyboard switching button - I cannot find a reason why Android 11 is better.
Android 9 consumes 5% per 30 min gameplay
Android 11 consumes 20% per 30min gameplay
This is a huge difference man.
However, Android 9 System UI would often stop working for 5-10s if I use older apps in 2018, which is a little annoying.

Question Anyone with ROG6 yet?

Was thinking of buying the phone alongside with mine Vivo x80 Pro, as it's battery is total disaster.
How's the ROG6 experience in terms of battery, speakers, performance? Would like to hear from someone who has the device rather than paid youtubers.

Battery life is good thanks to the power-efficient 8+ Gen 1.
Comparison in Genshin Impact showed lower power consumption per FPS than 8 Gen 1 phones while maintaining a high frame rate.
The average of 59 FPS is the best among the 8+ Gen 1 phones I have compared!
Thermal throttling is loose, so if you want to play for a long time, you should have a cooler.
For the speaker, both bass and treble sounded beautifully, especially treble was clear and distinct.
It's front speaker so not easily blocked by hands when held horizontally.
Android smartphone Benchmark Charts; CPU, GPU, memory & storage performance, and touch latency - AndroPlus
Here's my benchmark results for each SoC and device. List of Benchmark Results AnTuTu benchmark is a popular Android benchmark app, but often falls victim
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ASUS ROG Phone 6 Review - Genshin 59.3 FPS playable gaming smartphone - AndroPlus
I purchased the ASUS ROG Phone 6. Gaming smartphones that heat up and cool down easily The ROG Phone 6 is a smartphone powered by the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1.
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I want this phone as a daily driver less a gaming phone.
I've heard mixed things about it, but I'll buy it and try myself.
My vivo x80 pro has the best camera with an awfully battery life.

Hey I just got my phone today. But uhm why is there only 379gb of 512gb available? Is this normal?!

leathan said:
Hey I just got my phone today. But uhm why is there only 379gb of 512gb available? Is this normal?!
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Update the phone and do a system reset, you should have around 460GB left or even more.

speaker is worse than rog 3 because rog 3 has seperate dac for 2 speakers, rog 6 only have one dac for 2 speaker and headphone jack, sound is nice but weak bass, cant compare to rog 3 or blackshark 5 . perfomance is extremely smooth, Asus kinda undervolt the soc so they dont overheat as much as rog 3 and 5 during gaming section(particularly genshin impact max setting), while gaming with max setting genshin , phone temp never pass 43 degree( when using rog 3 its around 50-52) , with the cooling fan the phone barely reach 37 degree . Battery life is very good if u turn off some useless feature like asus logo back light and live screen . Camera perfomance depends on ppl , i barely take any picture so its acceptable . If this phone can stay alive after 6 months without dead ic chip----> best gaming phone of 2022

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speaker is worse than rog 3 because rog 3 has seperate dac for 2 speakers, rog 6 only have one dac for 2 speaker and headphone jack, sound is nice but weak bass, cant compare to rog 3 or blackshark 5 . perfomance is extremely smooth, Asus kinda undervolt the soc so they dont overheat as much as rog 3 and 5 during gaming section(particularly genshin impact max setting), while gaming with max setting genshin , phone temp never pass 43 degree( when using rog 3 its around 50-52) , with the cooling fan the phone barely reach 37 degree . Battery life is very good if u turn off some useless feature like asus logo back light and live screen . Camera perfomance depends on ppl , i barely take any picture so its acceptable . If this phone can stay alive after 6 months without dead ic chip----> best gaming phone of 2022
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I bought it two days ago, the speakers are great but shame they downgraded it.
Battery life is superb without tweaking anything, camera is ok and very good at daylight if you use RAW.
It's a great daily driver and gaming phone, i bought it only for the daily drive thing as i barely play games on the phone, wish mine Vivo X80 Pro had the performance, endurance and speakers of the Rog6.

Can you please elaborate on the downgraded speakers part?
My understanding is that they're a bit quieter compared to ROG-3 but speaker sound quality is better....

Interesting details about the sound/speakers. Bad one to cheap out on. ROG 5 has quite upgraded sound experience compared to ROG 3. Better sound, deeper bass, etc.. If the 6 ranks below 3, then it's a big step down on the audio experience...

Can anyone else confirm that?
That would reflect bad on Asus.

Might sound stupid but i bought this device only because it has no notch/punchhole, a good battery, better software support and higher Screen refresh rate compared to red magic 7s pro. I will miss the internal cooler of red magic tbh. But the external cooler makes sense if you consider playing for a longer period as you won't be carrying it in your pocket anyways when playing for longer periods. I will cap the performance which should still be enough without throttling and without any cooler. I like that they have that option outside of x mode where it doesn't throttle at all and limits the performance without a cooler attached. Thats just amazing

nadejo said:
Might sound stupid but i bought this device only because it has no notch/punchhole, a good battery, better software support and higher Screen refresh rate compared to red magic 7s pro. I will miss the internal cooler of red magic tbh. But the external cooler makes sense if you consider playing for a longer period as you won't be carrying it in your pocket anyways when playing for longer periods. I will cap the performance which should still be enough without throttling and without any cooler. I like that they have that option outside of x mode where it doesn't throttle at all and limits the performance without a cooler attached. Thats just amazing
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Bought this phone for same reason minus gaming reasons.
Mine X80 Pro standby and battery are so bad it's not funny, and it's slow compared to the ROG6.
ROG6 barely refreshes any apps in the background and the battery life is great, some minor bugs like some stutters from time to time on BT when the screen is off.

nadejo said:
Might sound stupid but i bought this device only because it has no notch/punchhole, a good battery, better software support and higher Screen refresh rate compared to red magic 7s pro. I will miss the internal cooler of red magic tbh. But the external cooler makes sense if you consider playing for a longer period as you won't be carrying it in your pocket anyways when playing for longer periods. I will cap the performance which should still be enough without throttling and without any cooler. I like that they have that option outside of x mode where it doesn't throttle at all and limits the performance without a cooler attached. Thats just amazing
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dude, im planing to get the rog6 tencent global rom. i would like what is the major deffrences and issues i will get ??