Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.
domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.
Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?
Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.
Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?
This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!
dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
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What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.
domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s
Hello guys,
I need your honest opinion.
I need to get a new device. I only use blackberry old phone at this moment.
I am thinking of mi 6 or mi A1? Which one do you think is better?
I am thinking a1 for the price and stock android (what I love with oneplus before) but I like also to have snapdragon 835 and EIS for camera.
EIS also affect the quality of normal photos or videos only? I have shaky hands by the way.
Please advice.
Pricing:
mi a1 = 749 aed
mi 6= 1399 aed
Thanks guys
Mi 6 is better
Buy Mi 6 and install custom rom if you like stock.
cymn16 said:
Mi 6 is better
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NisseCool said:
Buy Mi 6 and install custom rom if you like stock.
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thanks guys
NisseCool said:
Buy Mi 6 and install custom rom if you like stock.
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Which custom ROM would you recommend? I couldn't find any with a battery performance and camera as good as the original one...
Mi 6 is flagship grade. A1 is midrange grade. The answer is very obvious.
imo
Brother! I have both the me A1 and the Mi 6 and the MI6 is so awesome and way better than the A1. Don't get me wrong, I like the A1 but the Mi 6 is so much faster and has many custom roms. If you look for the Mi A1 right now in the XDA forums there are no ROMs as of yet! The size of the Mi 6 is also much better than the size of the A1! I promise you brother!! You cannot go wrong with Mi 6!. It is an absolute pleasure to hold and to use!! And the dual firing speakers makes this a special beast! I personally love the MI6. I am selling my Mi A1
mi 6 is the best choice bro, good luck
Yep I had both the mi 6 was smaller in hand and snappier. Battery life similar on miui. Cam was also better
Mi6 my choice
I'd say if stock is more important to you and you dont mind weaker hardware - Mi A1.
You can install custom rom on mi6, but there will be bugs.
When my nexus died, I needed a replacement phone quick and A1 was not available. Having played with mi6 for a few month now, I'd probably bought A1 if I had a choice... or OnePlus5
elhana said:
I'd say if stock is more important to you and you dont mind weaker hardware - Mi A1.
You can install custom rom on mi6, but there will be bugs.
When my nexus died, I needed a replacement phone quick and A1 was not available. Having played with mi6 for a few month now, I'd probably bought A1 if I had a choice... or OnePlus5
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Why don't you try LOS or AOSPA rom?
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Why don't you try LOS or AOSPA rom?
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Basically two reasons:
I used custom aosp rom on nexus 4 when official support ended and while it works, you need to jump through some hoops to get everything working and wipe the phone (cba).
There is no Oreo roms. Updates will be late at least and most likely there will be bugs.
I know I should just get a pixel, but google has some issues with displays it seems.
elhana said:
Basically two reasons:
I used custom aosp rom on nexus 4 when official support ended and while it works, you need to jump through some hoops to get everything working and wipe the phone (cba).
There is no Oreo roms. Updates will be late at least and most likely there will be bugs.
I know I should just get a pixel, but google has some issues with displays it seems.
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Regular sized pixel 2 display is fine. Just the XL if seems.
So don't let it put you off.
Gf has it and is very happy and it is a little bit better than my mi 6 for software updates etc.
Performance is barely better like scrolling in chrome looks nice but google on Google will always be better with their optimizations.
If you need a performance device get one with the SD 835 its an amazing chip.
Blazing fast and no heat even on custom ROMs on Mi 6
xabivaz said:
Which custom ROM would you recommend? I couldn't find any with a battery performance and camera as good as the original one...
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RR with custom (Hasty) kernel. Perfect SoT and perfomance.:good:
Hi there, i have now Oneplus 5 and Mi Note 3, but i want smaller phone with good camera..
Mi Note 3 had good points in dxomark? but will this mi5s camera will be also good? that bsg google cam hdr port was targetted this phone on the start..
so what you think? i mean i want like 5" phone with good camera, and also lineageos support.. what you recommend then? thanks.
mi5 and mi5s wont be so expensive.. and watch that mi6 and mi5s dont have big different with image quality?
The camera with a modded GCam is great indeed on this phone., much more than you would think by the price. The only real downside to the phone is the battery life as it is average, while most Xiaomi devices really outdo the competition. Otherwise, a great phone. Do make sure to buy it in a sale though, as it can come as low as 230 euro's (price I paid over a year ago).
Narrowed down to these 2 phones due to their own pros and cons, which you feel is better especially camera wise?
Better camera
hi,
If you want a overall better phone it will be Asus zenfone 6.
Pros: More Unique design
Stockish UI
Much better rear camera
Since the camera is the same as rear it has the best front camera
Expandable storage
NFC
More custom rom support
Notification LED
FM radio
Bigger Battery
Cons:
LCD screen over Amoled
Bulky
Industrial or Ordinary design
nitink1234 said:
More custom rom support
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How? I thought Xiaomi phones have better support due to being more common.
Custom Roms
HI,
There is already a Lineage os 16 rom for Asus 6Z. It is coming with Stockish Android and last one month Asus %z got around 7 to 8 new roms.
Asus zenfone 6 has band 20, the global version, so should fully work in the UK. K20 pro lacks this. This a major reason I can't buy the k20
Hello. I have just ordered a Redmi Note 8 Pro - 128 GB
I am living in Turkey so i am guessing it is International
I want to use the phone with stock rom
So is that possible for me to install gcam? Or are there any app that makes the camera even better?
Looking for your answers thank you
t.me/rn8pro_gcam
Doesn't matter if it's international or the others. But yeah there is ongoing gcam porting for the note 8 pro
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...oogle-camera-rn8pro-edition-wyroczen-t3990731
This is the unpopular opinion, but truth be told, GCam for this phone as it is now is super sub par comparing to the stock camera app. There is MUCH more development to be done. You're better off sticking to the stock camera app unless you want to be a tester for wyroczen.
I also think that other than the fun of trying out Gcam, the stock cam is better, using night mode and/or HDR.
My understanding is that the Mediatek processor is the main barrier to having a good working build.