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Hello!
So I love BIG phones...which you probably guessed since I use the Z3 Tablet Compact as my phone.
Still I would like to have some newer tech on my phone, like MUCH better camera than the very bad ones on my Z3. No my phone is not my main camera but its nice to have something better. Also with built in flash (for flashlight usage). Not to mention more internal space and OLED screen.
Sadly there are no phones that can replace my Z3 and make me 100% happy since these days all phones have what I like to call the hotdog form factor.
My ideal phone would be like my old Mediapad X2 format and size with smaller bezels and newer hardware...but for now, this skinny form factor trend continues so looks like the best I could do for now is the 7.2" Mate 20x.
Has anyone gone from a Z3 to the Mate 20x?
I will be using it with AT&T and going for the L29 version. Likely will add some Squaretrade warranty when buying from Amazon.
Some recent feedback from the phone owners would be nice. One thing that got me holding back (aside from still hoping someone bringing a big 16:9 or 16:10 phone) is the fact that there is a Huawei 30...so I was wondering if a 30x is not too far off from being announced.
Thanks!
I still miss my old zenfone 3 ultra, but only phone who was getting close to it is my m20x... But really dont like 19:9... Miss the 16:9 a lot.
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I still miss my old zenfone 3 ultra, but only phone who was getting close to it is my m20x... But really dont like 19:9... Miss the 16:9 a lot.
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Oh I remember considering the zeonfone although dont recall why I didnt get one in the end. So you can imagine, coming from even bigger phones like the Mediapad X2 and the Z3 Tablet Compact...going to a smaller (thanks to the lame aspect ratio) phone is worrying me.
Guess I will just get one and test drive it before I sell my Z3
Looking at Z3 tablet form factor, ideal upgrade for you would be Mediapad M5 8. https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9092&idPhone2=6633
Maybe M6 is also coming soon.
Also consider this for taking calls on the go. https://consumer.huawei.com/sg/wearables/talkband-b5/
I have had various large phablets and tablets that I used as a phone as well, such as the Dell Streak (remember that one!), Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, Sony Xperia Z Ultra, Huawei MediaPad X1, X2, M2, M3, M5 8.4, Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 8.0 and Xiaomi Mi Max 3.
Recently I switched from my MediaPad M5 8.4 LTE to, briefly a Samsung Galaxy Note9, and now a Huawei Mate 20X.
The main reasons were that the M5 was getting slow and had this annoying Huawei memory cleanup app that I could not get rid off, it did not have dual SIM plus sufficient storage and it was just not comfortable to use as a camera and the camera sucks as well.
I still have the M5 but ever since I got the 20X i do not use the M5 anymore, not even at home on the couch.
I would like to have root but on the other hand I don't really miss much without it. I use Nova Launcher with different themes and I can change fonts with an app from Google Play. And I save a lot of time by not having to mess with custom ROM's etc.
The battery life of the 20X is awesome and it fits my hands fine, although I prefer it would be lighter.
And I wish they would offer the international version with 256GB as well.
I was watching movies on my Mediapad M3 8.4. I am selling it and getting the Mate 20 X.
Is anyone switching from a bigger tablet to a Mate 20 X and or prefer watching movies on Mate 20 X? Is it big enough to watch streaming content?
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I was watching movies on my Mediapad M3 8.4. I am selling it and getting the Mate 20 X.
Is anyone switching from a bigger tablet to a Mate 20 X and or prefer watching movies on Mate 20 X? Is it big enough to watch streaming content?
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I like to stream movies on my m20x [emoji1305]
Flavio said:
I have had various large phablets and tablets that I used as a phone as well, such as the Dell Streak (remember that one!), Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, Sony Xperia Z Ultra, Huawei MediaPad X1, X2, M2, M3, M5 8.4 and Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 8.0.
Recently I switched from my MediaPad M5 8.4 LTE to, briefly a Samsung Galaxy Note9, and now a Huawei Mate 20X.
The main reasons were that the M5 was getting slow and had this annoying Huawei memory cleanup app that I could not get rid off, it did not have dual SIM plus sufficient storage and it was just not comfortable to use as a camera and the camera sucks as well.
I still have the M5 but ever since I got the 20X i do not use the M5 anymore, not even at home on the couch.
I would like to have root but on the other hand I don't really miss much without it. I use Nova Launcher with different themes and I can change fonts with an app from Google Play. And I save a lot of time by not having to mess with custom ROM's etc.
The battery life of the 20X is awesome and it fits my hands fine, although I prefer it would be lighter.
And I wish they would offer the international version with 256GB as well.
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I too had pretty much same devices as you. starting from dell streak( it was one of a kind in looks in those days), galaxy note 1, mega 6.3, mediapad x1, x2, m3, xiaomi mix, honor note 10, mate 20x.
with mediapad x2, i always wished it to have lesser non screen area. i think 20x fits screen and size part pretty well.
Bros, what you guys thinking of buying 7T now? My main criteria is custom ROM development support but only OmniRom and AOSiP (alpha) is there now. Since four models are released in a very short period this year and the 7 Pro is the one with so many custom ROMs like about 15+. None of the other have even more than 3 (OP 7). I want to buy the new one very soon because my current device has fallen from a very height and many parts need to be replaced.
I'm surprised at the lack of development myself, but I assume it's because of how new Android 10 is and the whole issue with TWRP. Might be the same on other Android 10 devices. With that said, I'm pretty happy with rooted OxygenOS atm -- even if other ROMs were available, I'm not totally sure I'd switch over.
The price for a new 7T and pre-owned 7 Pro is the same here. The size and weight of 7 Pro is a bit larger that's why I'm thinking of 7T but lack of custom ROMs is pulling me away. My current Z2 has large development support that's why I can't think of anything without custom ROM support. Another option is to buy a new K20 Pro for a lower price. Or a pre-owned 6T (same price as the new K20 Pro).
Bros, decided to buy a pre-owned 7T 8GB 128GB for $400. Found out that it has almost everything I like and doesn't have something I hate. I hope the development support will pick up anytime soon ?
Just got my 7T!!! And it's an amazing device.. ??
Yeah, I just bought a used 7t. Really thought I would go for the 7 Pro, but having looked into it, I'm not sure why anyone would. The 7t has all of the best bits of the 7 Pro [emoji106][emoji3]
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Yeah, I just bought a used 7t. Really thought I would go for the 7 Pro, but having looked into it, I'm not sure why anyone would. The 7t has all of the best bits of the 7 Pro [emoji106][emoji3]
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Yes bro, 7T has almost everything which I wanted and lacks only a very few things. Like it has a
+ non-popup camera so faster fact unlocking
+ 90Hz of course
+ stereo speakers
+ 3 cameras with a wider one and now with a super-macro mode
+ OIS
+ less weight compared to 7 Pro
+ 855+
and pretty much everything a flagship needs. The only thing I miss is the QHD display. I have a VR/AR device so I wanted to use it for watching movies like in a theatre. The QHD display has less pixelated view compared to fHD for this use. But compared to other specs it is not a deal.
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
I had both in my cart and chose 9pro. I paid 800 usf for it. The s21 ultra is 1200 usd. The 9 pro has the same processor and everyone talked crap about the camera, but I think it's pretty good. They have same 5g processor. Samsung has micro sd slot which I got away from years ago. Samsungs touchwiz is something I don't care for after having 2 phones a s7edge and a note 10 very laggy(uses a lot of resources). If you want the best camera on a phone buy a nokia or Google phone.
I have also owned a 6t and 7tpro mclaren version phones.
At the current prices, I'd take the S21 Ultra. Having used both Samsung and OnePlus phones, I think Samsung provides a more polished product. I'm not saying that the OnePlus 9 Pro is a bad phone, but it doesn't seem like a good value compared to the competition at the moment. Heck, a brand new OnePlus 8 Pro is $599 through OnePlus right now and has virtually all the same qualities. The reports of overheating and unstable software don't help the 9 Pro either. If it gets a discounted price in the coming months, then it may be a more compelling option.
I'd probably take the Ultra. It's a better device all around, but to me it's a bit TOO big. Updates will be faster with the Ultra, Samsung has consistently been putting out monthly updates since the S10. The device will also be supported longer, if you keep your phones for a few years.
OP 9 pro. In my country Samsung sells s21 ultra with exynos processors So no thanks.. If it would have snapdragon I would've choosen s21 ultra
The main complaint about the Exynos is that it gets hotter. Well, the OP9 Pro overheats anyways, so there's no real difference. Oh, and people complain about the Exynos being 0.0xxx% slower, like they could actually feel the difference.
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The main complaint about the Exynos is that it gets hotter. Well, the OP9 Pro overheats anyways, so there's no real difference. Oh, and people complain about the Exynos being 0.0xxx% slower, like they could actually feel the difference.
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Yeah I hear the exynos is just about as good as this year's 888 and it's almost impossible to tell the difference.
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The main complaint about the Exynos is that it gets hotter. Well, the OP9 Pro overheats anyways, so there's no real difference. Oh, and people complain about the Exynos being 0.0xxx% slower, like they could actually feel the difference.
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I haven't had any problems with overheating of the OnePlus 9 pro yet. In what situations should this happen?
Both the Exynos and SD888 run hot and throttle. Here is a pretty good breakdown and comparison of the 2 chips: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16463/snapdragon-888-vs-exynos-2100-galaxy-s21-ultra
More worrisome for the Exynos is its weird clock behaviour, with the new chip really struggling in maintaining its peak frequencies other than for very brief moments – the Snapdragon 888’s X1 core had no such issues. My Exynos S21 Ultra chip bin was quite terrible here, but the better silicon on my second S21 doesn’t improve things too much either.
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Basically, the Exynos can run as well as the SD888 in terms of peak performance, but that's partially because Samsung is running it overclocked and it gets HOT. Yes, the SD888 gets hot and throttles, but the Exynos gets hotter sooner, drains battery, and the GPU just sucks (and equally power hungry).
Thanks to everybody for your help. I've decided by S21 Ultra because of the price. Here un Argentina i can get it for less money.
I'm a Oneplus follower but this time, my wallet choose.
As a person that has owned an S21 Ultra since it was launched in the USA, I would choose the OP 9 Pro. I have just ordered one through tmobile and can't wait!
Personally, the S21 Ultra was primarily used for youtube vanced, browsing, and as a business cell. I highly value the software and prefer OP's Oxygen OS over OneUI, hence why I'm replacing the S21 Ultra.
Both phones are great and you can't go wrong with either, but software matters the most to me and I didn't think I'd miss OOS as much as I have.
I know OP already made the decision.
Here in the US the OnePlus is cheaper.
I found a mint 9 Pro for $900 with the original receipt and unused buds.
The S21 ultra is about $1000. But can't be rooted unless I spend $150 for a bootloader unlock. That makes it more than $1300 because I have to pay tax on the phone.
Too rich for my blood.
Samsung with Exynox, NO !
Samsung full of Bloatware! Bleah! Oxygen is one of the cleanest Android OS.
I saw many reviews about camera with S21ultra & OnePlu 9 pro. S21 is better, but not by a lot.
I prefer the the OnePlus here in the usa and the Global 7pro, 8pro, 9pro have worked out well for me with T-Mobile!
Actually I prefer the camera of the OP9 Pro over the Mi11 Ultra and the S21 Ultra. The other two might be better for you if you need 10x Zoom very often.
OS and updates? Samsung has quick updates as well, but Oxygen OS from OnePlus is just so clean and close to stock imo. Xiaomis MIUI is pretty good as well - though I had so many bugs on my mi10 pro which haven't been fixed. And they don't update that often or the OTA doesn't work that well - I was on October 2020's android security version until April 2021.
Charging and battery: OnePlus and Xiaomi charge much faster than Samsung. Battery life is probably really close between those 3.
Rooting the Samsung will break Knox with all it's downsides. A lot depends on your preferences but I would go with the OnePlus.
HEROEdelREVES said:
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
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Depends. Are you an Android lover or a nonce. ?
In my country
S21U no warranty imported Snap888 (256GB not 128GB) = 1,014 USD
S21U retail 1yr warranty Exynos = 826 USD
OP9P no warranty imported RAM8/256GB = 839 USD
OP9P retail soon (nearly into the market)
HEROEdelREVES said:
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
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HEROEdelREVES said:
Hi, I want to update my 6T.
I don't know which one is better, OP 9Pro or S21 Ultra?
What do yo guys think?
Why I like OP 9 Pro?
- Snapdragon 888
- Thinner
- It comes with super charger
- Lighter
Why I like Samsung S21 Ultra?
- Cheaper (Exynos versión $877 12gb - 256Gb) divided at 9 monthly fees without interest.
- Better camera
Which one will you buy if they were at the same price?
Do you know if Samsung launch faster updates than OP or is it the opposite?
Thanks and sorry for my english
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9 pro over exynos s21U. Coz exynos sux, oneui is another meh. software is pretty meh on samsung after android 11. If you getting sd s21U then maibe. If you more concerned on the camera than anything else then go for samsung
Don't Leave out the charging speed.
50w wireless.., not many phones does that with cable plug in.
65w cable charging, is even faster. Awesome.
Hello
I have a S21U exynos for nearly a year and it's beginning to boring me, I don't dare to root it because of knox
Also I don't like that sometimes I have to double swipe because the screen needs a longer swipe area than OP phone or the s21u screen are just not as responsive. Same goes for the double tap to open anything because Samsung UI doesn't accept to open an app or menu/settings if any even very slight scrolling is still on screen.
Here's why I am tempted by the 9 Pro:
-Snapdragon vs exynos
-The battery is finally nearly the same thanks to A12, no ?
-ROOT freedom, when I am getting bired of the OS I can simple change the custom rom wmabd all that without being afraid of knox
-OP 10 pro unveiled today looks nothing better than 9 Pro besides the cpu/gpu, the mi 12 pro tele lens is catastrophic given the actual reviews, the s22u will be a copy/paste of the s21u but with an spen... Well 2022 is not a wow year
What I am afraid to miss the most though is the 10x telescopic zoom, but over 11 months I only used like 10 times mostly to impress my gf with moon shots lol
So what do you think? Am I crazy?
Anyone had an s21u and got the 9 Pro?
I had the 9 Pro and got the S21U in august
Battery is better BY FAR, my Op9 was laggy and buggy and i couldnt figure out why. OxygenOS is basically dead and that was always the main reason to buy the OP
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I had the 9 Pro and got the S21U in august
Battery is better BY FAR, my Op9 was laggy and buggy and i couldnt figure out why. OxygenOS is basically dead and that was always the main reason to buy the OP
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You are talking about the S21U exynos or snnapdragon?
9 Pro got a better battery since A12 as I heard so I guess it's now pretty close to s21u exynos
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You are talking about the S21U exynos or snnapdragon?
9 Pro got a better battery since A12 as I heard so I guess it's now pretty close to s21u exynos
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Exynos. Haven't had A12, but as I said, without OxygenOS OnePlus is dead. ColorOS (what A12 basically is on OP9) is trash
I have the 9 Pro for 5-6 month now. Switched from Pixel 4Xl to iPhone 11 Pro Max to Note 20 Ultra cheated with Xperie 1ii and back to iPhone 12 Pro Max, then i bought the 9 Pro. So i switched a lot last year. I'm not a fanboy of any brand.
My ranking from best to worse -> 9Pro, 11 Pro Max, Xperia 1ii, Pixel 4XL, 12 Pro Max, Note 20 Ultra (exynos).
9 Pro it's not laggy at all by the way. It's the most fluid/smooth phone i've used. Screen is fantastic and by far the best i've used.
Performance is superb. Camera (got major updat) is brilliant. Battery (A11) is great.
Fast Charging 30 Min ...
All the crying about Oxygen vs Color OS... Don't know, kind of childish. With OxygenOS 12 (Color OS with Oxy Skin) you won't feel a difference. It does not matter. It's still a very clean near stock experience.
If you wabt to switch, just try it, i can highly recommend the 9 Pro
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I have the 9 Pro for 5-6 month now. Switched from Pixel 4Xl to iPhone 11 Pro Max to Note 20 Ultra cheated with Xperie 1ii and back to iPhone 12 Pro Max, then i bought the 9 Pro. So i switched a lot last year. I'm not a fanboy of any brand.
My ranking from best to worse -> 9Pro, 11 Pro Max, Xperia 1ii, Pixel 4XL, 12 Pro Max, Note 20 Ultra (exynos).
9 Pro it's not laggy at all by the way. It's the most fluid/smooth phone i've used. Screen is fantastic and by far the best i've used.
Performance is superb. Camera (got major updat) is brilliant. Battery (A11) is great.
Fast Charging 30 Min ...
All the crying about Oxygen vs Color OS... Don't know, kind of childish. With OxygenOS 12 (Color OS with Oxy Skin) you won't feel a difference. It does not matter. It's still a very clean near stock experience.
If you wabt to switch, just try it, i can highly recommend the 9 Pro
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Thanks, abd at least if I don't like stock I can try a vanilla google custom rom
Do you think the passage from 6.8" to 6.7" will be obvious or it's pretty much the same size?
Nah TINY bit smaller, 0,1" is nothing... you know what they say about size
Well, i say is not really ultra. Because is Exynos...
My 9 pro works very well. ColorOs 12 stable C.39 is very good. Except some notification i don't have problems.
Oxygen is full of Google BS. That it makes it Bad.
I use bluetooth = smart watch & music 8 h/day at work. For me. battery is very good.
I never have lag or any other screen problems.
xPan mode color/black & white is gorgeous for photos.
You don't feel that 0,1" difference. 100%.
But why don't you wait a little & buy 10 pro?
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Well, i say is not really ultra. Because is Exynos...
My 9 pro works very well. ColorOs 12 stable C.39 is very good. Except some notification i don't have problems.
Oxygen is full of Google BS. That it makes it Bad.
I use bluetooth = smart watch & music 8 h/day at work. For me. battery is very good.
I never have lag or any other screen problems.
xPan mode color/black & white is gorgeous for photos.
You don't feel that 0,1" difference. 100%.
But why don't you wait a little & buy 10 pro?
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10 pro is deceiving, at least for me, same telephoto camera while I hoped for a 5x or 10x, super wide camera is worse than 9 pro, same exact screen in terms of size and brightness...
And the price of new OP flagships here in my country is always overpriced, the 9 Pro 12/256 started at 1150$ now it's at 770$!!
I can sell my 10 months old s21u for 770$ today and pay 0$ for a brand new 9 Pro. When the 10 Pro will be out, the s22u would have been out for 2 months so I couldn't sell the s21u more than 600$
As for the 9 Pro I guess it won't drop too much anymore here, perhaps max 50$
That's the question.. is the 10 pro worth it. Same camera mainsensor, worse ultrawide sensor 1/2.56 (guess it was) on the 10 Pro and 1/1.5x on 9 Pro is a huge size difference. Only thing will be (cam) software.
And better CPU/GPU chip.
If you get the 9Pro with a discount...
vegetaleb said:
Hello
I have a S21U exynos for nearly a year and it's beginning to boring me, I don't dare to root it because of knox
Also I don't like that sometimes I have to double swipe because the screen needs a longer swipe area than OP phone or the s21u screen are just not as responsive. Same goes for the double tap to open anything because Samsung UI doesn't accept to open an app or menu/settings if any even very slight scrolling is still on screen.
Here's why I am tempted by the 9 Pro:
-Snapdragon vs exynos
-The battery is finally nearly the same thanks to A12, no ?
-ROOT freedom, when I am getting bired of the OS I can simple change the custom rom wmabd all that without being afraid of knox
-OP 10 pro unveiled today looks nothing better than 9 Pro besides the cpu/gpu, the mi 12 pro tele lens is catastrophic given the actual reviews, the s22u will be a copy/paste of the s21u but with an spen... Well 2022 is not a wow year
What I am afraid to miss the most though is the 10x telescopic zoom, but over 11 months I only used like 10 times mostly to impress my gf with moon shots lol
So what do you think? Am I crazy?
Anyone had an s21u and got the 9 Pro?
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I hear you as I feel the same about my S21+ exynos except that I plan to switch to Xiaomi 12 because Oneplus is faaar away from the spirit which made its success years ago. It was nearly half the price of the best flagship and with better performance, development was very active with high interactivity with the growing users community, big big choice of custom roms and kernels, ...etc
Lately Oneplus seemed lagging behind in all these aspects and becoming exactly what they were laughing at (they said Never Settle ) and now they are getting Oppofied, uh no thank you.
So what's left for me to get away from samsung and their latest try to punish me for rooting the phone I bought with my money by disabling shealth, blocking connection with my gw4, ...etc plus some other annoyances which persist since day 1? Xiaomi 12 seems to me the best option. I made my mind and I just wait for it to go global in the coming weeks.
I just got a deal (589 Euro) & bought Vivo x80 Pro 12/256 Gb, new, full box. Mine is global with FuntouchOS & SnapDragon processor.
Beautifull phone. Very nice design. Is a little slippery.
The phone have protecion on the screen from factory. I don't like curved screen. At all ! But i can live with it.
Comming from Oneplus (since 2015) i was afraid of difference of OS. But Funtouch have all those gestures/features that i like on OxygenOS.
Phone have a lot of bloatware. I uninstalled almost all of them. remaining 2, 3 i force stop & disabled.
The camera is considerably better than Oneplus.
Funtouch OS 13 works fine for me. I was nervous about bluetooth on A13. On Oxygen 13 not working. But on Vivo works fine.
I want to buy a 50w Vivo wireless charger, to save usb port.
Before this Vivo x80 Pro i use 8, 9 days a Samsung s22 Ultra, european (Exynos creap). S22 is a little puke, garbage compared to x80! The internet was full of horrible advertising. I try dns.adguard.com, Adaway, Blokada, nextdns. With any of these internet was a nightmare ! Slow like a 2010 phone. Bleah !!! Why the hell this garbage costs 1200 euro?..
Honestly, the x80 pro with Dim9000 and origin os is the best phone I've ever had. Why?
- best camera I've ever had
- incredible charging time
- no battery drain at all (I'm getting nearly 2 days out of the battery: reddit, messenger, camera, youtube, web browsing, stock monitoring, podcasts - I'm not a hardcore user)
- bloatware is removable
- fast as oneplus
- chinese version with call recording function
I've never been keen on notifications all day - it's me having the control when to look at the phone, do not want to get disturbed the whole day with notification pop-ups. I have never used google car or hey google commands. All issues have been tackled by Vivo. The only thing what makes me nervous: it's chinese hardware... let's see where politics head the next years.
Before you buy a Vivo, you need to be interested in getting to know the settings in detail - you need to understand the energy saving settings and other stuff, so Vivo is not working like an iPhone "out of the box" - but this is also a great opportunity to learn more about the operating system...
Phone history:
Samsung S2
Samsung Note 4
iPhone 6
iPhone 6s
Oneplus 5/iPhone 11
Vivo x80 pro
-> After Oneplus and Vivo I will never go back to Samsung. Worse than iPhone.