Question Possible bug F3 dual sim with VoLTE - Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40

Poco F3
12.5.1 official stable
A bug or as intended?
Dual SIM, using one SIM for calls, the second for mobile internet. Different networks. Both networks support VoLTE, it is turned on and works fine while using same SIM for calls and LTE at the same time..
But hhen calling from the first SIM, don't have LTE connection on the second.
I understand the reason is maybe because they are on different networks, but I was still expecting otherwise.
An option "use secondary SIM for mobile data during calls" does not have any effect.
CAn someone recreate?

It's dual stand-by not dual active. In dual stand-by only 1 SIM can be fully active at a time.
That is 1 SIM can have an active call and Data, or one active call or Active Data. You can't have 2 active calls on different SIMs or 1 active call and active data on different SIMs.
Update: Adding link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM#Standby

Oh. Thanks for this.

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dual sim standby - both 3g/4g ?

So I've read in a few reviews it's a dual sim standby (both sims are in standby for a phone call) and both of them are capable of 3g/4g at the same time?
anyone know?
reason I ask is in my country the 2g bands are closed so can't use any other dual sim phone (all of them force second sim to be on 2g)
I don't think both of them are capable of 4G for the simple reason 2 SIM from 2 different network providers = 2 IP address, and you need to know it's complex to make usable 2 IP address in the same time (MPTCP).
Then like on the OnePlus 2, you can only use one SIM for data and the other for phone calls/SMS/MMS in the same time.
The only phone that I am aware that is able to do 4g on one sim and 3g on the other is the mi5.
I am also keen to know if we can do the same on the one plus 3. I live in Singapore and 2g will be deactivated soon.
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I'm not expecting the phone to use data on both. i'm more concerend about just being on standby for phone/msg on 3g (or 4 if possible). Like using your phone blocking data on the second sim. I don't see why it's so technologically hard. 2g is soon to be gone evrywhere
I have tested Mi5Pro and it have first sim 2G/3G/4G and the second sim 2G/3G simultaneously (dual sim stand-by).
I have read in a review than OP3 also. I will receive mine next monday, i will test ...
thanks a lot. anyone else can confirm ?
I can confirm .. i have received my op3 yesteday and it is 2G/3G/4G on sim1 and 2G/3G on sim2 simultaneously. Sim2 is only for calls and messages.
Like OP2 and other phones, it is possible to swap sims and in this case, sim2 is 2G/3G/4G with data and sim1 only 2G/3G for calls and messages.
I confirm also that op3 is dual sim stand-by and not dual sim active.
Le_Matriciel said:
I can confirm .. i have received my op3 yesteday and it is 2G/3G/4G on sim1 and 2G/3G on sim2 simultaneously. Sim2 is only for calls and messages.
Like OP2 and other phones, it is possible to swap sims and in this case, sim2 is 2G/3G/4G with data and sim1 only 2G/3G for calls and messages.
I confirm also that op3 is dual sim stand-by and not dual sim active.
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So your SIM 1 is on 4G/LTE and SIM 2 can receive calls and text in 3G mode?
Yes but when call is made on SIM2, data on SIM1 is interrupted (dual stand-by)
Le_Matriciel said:
Yes but when call is made on SIM2, data on SIM1 is interrupted (dual stand-by)
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Is this by design? That seems like a very frustrating limitation. I would be okay with data services flipping over to SIM2 while on the phone there.
I also seem to have a problem of the OP3 kicking down from LTE to HSPA when I make a phone call.
Any ideas?
appletalk said:
Is this by design? That seems like a very frustrating limitation. I would be okay with data services flipping over to SIM2 while on the phone there.
I also seem to have a problem of the OP3 kicking down from LTE to HSPA when I make a phone call.
Any ideas?
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Yes, it is designed like this, like all dual sim except Asus ZenFone 2, Galaxy S4 Duo and few other models.
LTE networks has not "phone circuits" and call are made in 3G (phone connect in HSPA during call). This is for all LTE phones.
LTE calls are possible with VoLTE protocol witch is IP voice communications and not voice circuit.
For using VoLTE, the phone need compatible with this protocol AND operators needs to activate this functionality.
Le_Matriciel said:
Yes but when call is made on SIM2, data on SIM1 is interrupted (dual stand-by)
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While you are using data on SIM1, will an incoming call on SIM2 ring on the phone or will the call be treated as though the phone is off-network and be directed to voicemail?
rickhuizinga said:
While you are using data on SIM1, will an incoming call on SIM2 ring on the phone or will the call be treated as though the phone is off-network and be directed to voicemail?
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incoming call on SIM2 will ring.
Both the SIMS can receive calls no matter which of them are used for mobile data.
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spritey176 said:
So I've read in a few reviews it's a dual sim standby (both sims are in standby for a phone call) and both of them are capable of 3g/4g at the same time?
anyone know?
reason I ask is in my country the 2g bands are closed so can't use any other dual sim phone (all of them force second sim to be on 2g)
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It is dual sim standby and both the sims are in standby for a phone call. Both of them are capable of 4G/3G/2G but NOT at the same time. 4G can be used only in one sim slot at a time. It can be set by going to settings > SIM cards> Preferred SIM for Cellular data. Whichever SIM you choose here will have 4G option. It can be changed from settings>Cellular networks > your SIM card > Preferred network type. (4G or 3G or 2G). The other SIM can have either 3G or 2G but there is no option to choose it. The only way is to click on 'Network operators' option from Cellular networks menu and choose a 2G or 3G service. Hope it helps.
I get 4g on each sim but you have to pick one for data but both are 4g
So if I have 2 sims, one for calls with 6gb 4g and one for data with 15gb 4g, when I finish the 6gb on 1st sim I can switch the data to the other sim via software? Thanks
Your right you can
Important about dual active
Le_Matriciel said:
Yes, it is designed like this, like all dual sim except Asus ZenFone 2, Galaxy S4 Duo and few other models.
LTE networks has not "phone circuits" and call are made in 3G (phone connect in HSPA during call). This is for all LTE phones.
LTE calls are possible with VoLTE protocol witch is IP voice communications and not voice circuit.
For using VoLTE, the phone need compatible with this protocol AND operators needs to activate this functionality.
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This is true, but you can also add to the list of "Dual Active" phones all Huawei premium phones:
Mate 7, Mate 8, Honor 6, and probably Honor 7 and 8.
They all have DUAL ACTIVE SIM CARDS, which means that you can have a call on SIM-1 and get a waiting call on SIM-2, then you can answer the call and swap between the two active calls!! I even tried calling SIM-1 from SIM-2 and it was actually ringing!!
Also more importantly, when using data on SIM-1, you can make or receive a call on SIM-2 without interrupting data.
That's pretty amazing, but with a major drawback (at least for me, it is): 3G/4G service is only accessible on SIM-1 slot!! The SIM card in slot-2 will always be 2G and would never ever access 3G/4G networks
This is bad because I travel a lot, and I always need to be able to switch data from SIM-1 to SIM-2 and vice versa. The only option I have is to physically swap SIM cards between slots, which actually ruins the whole concept of having DUAL SIM mobile
My guess is that they are actually using two separate modems, each one is dedicated to one of the two SIM slots, and only one of them supports 3G/4G connectivity.
TheLoverMan said:
Your right you can
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so, you are saying that both sims are 3G/4G capable, but can be used for data one at a time, and can be switched anytime via settings ?
I have a questiĆ³n, so if a dual sim phone have 3g/4g capabilities on both sims, is there a way to make like a failover setup such as if sim1 looses data the phone switches to sim2 data automatically and viceversa?
I have problem in my one plus 3 network issues both SIM are not working properly both SIM search for network frequently when I switched data no network can anyone give solution I tried all rebooting, factory reset, searching network manually.

Dual SIM function

Hi, I'm curious to know how dual SIM works in this phone. If I have two 4g network sims, will the other get downgraded to 2g or 3g?
For example, the OnePlus Two pushes my call/text sim to 2g while my data sim is on 4g/LTE.
Both SIM will run in 4G but only one will receive data. (You could specific which one SIM 1 or SIM 2 to receive data without reboot the phone.)
As long as the one receiving data is on 4G, the other SIM is on 4G or not is not so relevant, I believe... (Not sure if both can work on VoLTE at the same time... No VoLTE here...)

Dual-Sim Internet Issue

I am from India and have two sim cards on my device.
Sim 1 - Jio which only works on the 4g spectrum and calls are over VoLTE.
Sim 2 - Vodafone which can work on 2g/3g/4g. Calls are not over VoLTE.
I have data packs on both the numbers.
In the settings when I switch my data subscription to Sim 2 i.e. Vodafone, the phone immediately enables 4g on Sim 2 thereby disabling Sim 1 because the Sim 1 only works on 4g.
I would have had no problem if the phone could just let me use my Vodafone Data on 3g but no, it forces the it to use it on 4g and therefore if I want to use data on my Sim 2 I can no longer user Sim 1.
Is there a work-around for this issue?

Zuk Z2 Plus Dual Sim - Data during calls on second sim feature Lineage OS 17.1

Hello all. I wonder if you can give me some clarity. The Zuk Z2 Plus is a Dual Sim Dual Standy phone. So my understanding after reading up on it is that only one sim can actually be active at any given moment when in use. So I have Sim 2 setup as my mobile data LTE connection and my Sim 1 is not being used for data.
Lineage OS has a feature where when I go into Sim 1 settings, it has a option "Data During Calls". Volte does not work on my phone, so that means when I get a call on Sim 2, the signal drops to 3G mode and data dies. But seeing that on Dual Standy phones when you are on a call on the one sim, the other one is also inactive because the phone only has one transceiver, the "Data During Calls" on Sim 1 wont work either, correct?

Question Dual Sim Stand By

Hello guys!
Recently I adquire a Rog phone 6.
And I have a question regarding the use of mobile data while incoming calls.
According to the specs, this model have dual sim stand by. Basically, I run sim 1 for calls and sim 2 for data, when an incoming call is entering into Sim 1, the data turns off.
I used to have a galaxy, and when this happens automatically switches to data Sim 1 for not loosing internet connection while on the call.
Sorry to bother you, and if it's a silly question!
But I'm new in this world!
There are 4 types of dual sim, DSDA, DSDS, DSDV and DSDA.
ROG is DSDS and your galaxy is DSDA.
DSDA is only option for data connection on sim2 while calling on sim1.

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