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Which MI to get?

Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:

Mi5 has better camera for video (thanks to OIS) than Mi5s, otherwise they are very similar. Mi5 is longer out and thus has more chances for a custom rom. It does look like there will be some CM support (or whatever it is now called) for the Mi5s, there is one build here in the forum.
No idea about the 5s Plus.
Memory management is hard to say, but Android loves to have ram, so in general it's better to have more than less. Then again, this really depends on the ROM too.

domsch1988 said:
Hey everyone, I'm debating upgrading to xiaomi from my note 4. I could need some help deciding.
I don't really care which snapdragon it is. Both the 820 and 821 are a massive upgrade from my note and that's doing everything fine.
I'd like something smaller, but have no problem with 5,7" if there are benefits to it.
I'd like the opportunity for some kind of stockish rom. I don't flash daily anymore and am very familiar with miui since the original htc desire days. So miui is fine, but having the opportunity to go for lineage or aosp if i feel that way would be great.
So basically:
mi5s, mi5 or mi5s plus?
The mi5 64GB comes in at 277€
The mi5s 64GB is 307€
The mi5s Plus 64GB is 357€
Edit: I might also throw the Note 2 into the discussion. It's 200€ more expensive, but the bigger battery and the epic looks really are attractive.
My open questions: there is basically no development for the mi5s atm. Is there something to be expected? Is the mi5 still competitive or is it slowly eol? And for all options: Is the Ram upgrade to 4/6GB worth the price tag or is 3/4GB fine for you?
Any input to help me decide is greatly appreciated:good:
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If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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nelnel002 said:
If the screen doesn't bother you, I would buy the mi5.
: Better camera
Cm support
Deeper development here in XDA
PS: I have the mi5s plus 6gb 128 and I'm stuck in MIUI that I don't like very much. I going to continue to use my axon 7 until he has cm support
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Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331

I'm with @dabyd64.
Mi5s has better construction than Mi5 (Aluminum vs Ceramic).
Mi5s is a little heavier (around 15g) and around 1mm bigger at 3 axis (difficult to tell a diference side by side).
Mi5s and Google Pixel have the same camera sensor, one of best as today.
Mi5s take better photos and regarding video Mi5s have EIS (at 1080) that is working better than Mi5 with OIS.
It could be better if Xiaomi invest on image processing algoritm like google did on pixel mobile.
Right now, Mi5 has better comunity support because was released first, more users, and kernel sources already released by Xiaomi.
I doubt Mi5s will have better support than Mi5, but i'm pretty sure we get the major roms.
Mi5 has infrared and could work as a remote control, this is the unique feature loss on Mi5s.
For me, Mi5s all the way. I would avoid Mi5s plus, if you really want a proper dual camera implementation -> Huawei P9.
We have to understand that a dual camera solution is all about image processing. For me, Xiaomi implementation was a failure.
If you need 5.5" screen size i would go for oneplus 3t.
Mi Note 2 has an oled 5.7" curved screen with te same 1080 resolution, so lower pixel density.
I really hate curved screens, and it's a pain to protect those devices.
It has a bigger battery, but generally bigger screen more consume, on the other hand oled consume less than lcd, you have to analyse sot.
200€ more relatively to 300€ it's significative, i would say put 200€ aside for a new one later on.

Not OP, but I would like to say thanks to @BPSoft and the other people who answered this question, as I'm in the same boat right now. Want to upgrade from my Mi4, and considering Mi5 and Mi5s. But the price is too close.
Do you think it is worth waiting for Mi5s price to drop a little bit more before buying? I am not very keen on using it with MIUI8 (jury's out for future MIUI 9), so I would be waiting for a custom ROM (CM, AOSP, ...). What do you think?

Custom, somewhat stable, ROM could be a way off for the Mi 5s, as the kernel source hasn't been released yet. At least there is a global rom now for the Mi 5s, but I'm not sure if that can be bought preinstalled. Not a big thing, but maybe waiting one more week (until CES is over) might mean a tiny bit lower prices.

Mi5s is at its lowest price ever, though (about 265€ for me). So many decisions... but I think i'll go for it.
Even if not preinstalled you can always unlock bootloader and install the global ROM, corect?

This is correct. Actually, if you run the official China build, you can simply download the Recovery Rom to the phone, open the Updater app, select the rom and it will flash it. No unlock needed. Works also with some, but not all, "shop roms" (globalized non official builds).

I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.

domsch1988 said:
Currently the axon 7 is an option too.
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For a 5.5" screen size, i prefer Oneplus 3T, huge support here at XDA, 6GB Ram, SD821 instead of SD820, 64/128GB internal space, but without sd card support.
See here for a comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
Regarding photo quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8416&idPhone2=8067&idPhone3=7260
As you can see 20Mpx says nothing about picture quality :cyclops:
domsch1988 said:
But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm more optimistic, i expect "Mi6" release at March, like it was with Mi5. SD835 is expected. If i could, i would wait!

dabyd64 said:
Mi5 doesn't have better camera than mi5s!
The mi5 has OIS but apart of that nothing else is better. The MI5s camera makes much better photos.
In fact it's so fast that I almost never have to make a photo twice, I very rarely get a blurry picture.
I would get mi5s 64GB. The materials are much better.
CM is still WIP but when Xiaomi releases the kernel sources it will be a much better phone.
With the recent Stable Global rom it goes like butter, didn't notice any problems.
By the way, the MI5 is 257$, the 64GB mi5s is 288$ and the 128GB is 348$
Check there:
https://goldway.aliexpress.com/store/311331
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So it depends if you want OIS or faster capture. For my opinion cm development to mi5s Will take some time, soon we will have the mi6, so that's always the same thing , when we have some development there's another upgraded device that came out. We'll stay stock whit MIUI .
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domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I have axon 7 too and it's my daily driver, that's another league. QHD AMOLED,3250mah battery, not stock but almost whit some nice features, stereo speakers whit Dolby Atmos, nice camera I would say a little better than op3. nice materials and naugat to the end of January.
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What I really liked is the screen / size ratio, I think it's one of the 'smaller' phones which still has really good specs, decent screen and of course dual sim.

domsch1988 said:
I want to thank everyone who gave their opinions. It's much appreciated.
So, if its xiaomi, mi5s it's going to be.
Currently the axon 7 is an option too. But, i'm debating squeezing some life out of the note 4 and waiting for those sd835 phones to hit the market. Might be mid year, that those come. And sure enough xiaomi will have a new mi with this SoC. Then, either it's cheap enough or the mi5s will get even cheaper... decisions, decisions.
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I'm going to do the exact same, wait for SD835 and if i don't think it's worth it ill buy a cheaper mi5s

Xiaomi MI6 or Huawei P10?

I'm looking to buy new phone, now I have Redmi note 4 global edition, but I want smaller size phone. Headphone jack is not important for me.
I can get Xiaomi for about 436 $ and Huawei p10 for 500 $
I don't know what to buy.

check gsmarena for comparison hardware-wise. but i would get the p10 since they are nicer with kernel sources and its a better looking phone imo. i have the mi6 now...

consider the complain between these 2, P10 is better.
Ps. i have Mi6 , not so bad but not feel like top phone

Did anyone of you used P10 ? I'm little scared only for battery life, because miui is nicely optimised for battery consumption.

Robi959 said:
Did anyone of you used P10 ? I'm little scared only for battery life, because miui is nicely optimised for battery consumption.
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because p10 has better options for custom roms, you can flash a well-made one. You also avoid bloatware

Nouatik said:
because p10 has better options for custom roms, you can flash a well-made one. You also avoid bloatware
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P10 got custom rom? Are you serious? point me one custom rom please

As I can see there is just one custom rom xD
I will see because difference between these two phones is almost 100 €

saxmydix said:
P10 got custom rom? Are you serious? point me one custom rom please
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Robi959 said:
As I can see there is just one custom rom xD
I will see because difference between these two phones is almost 100 €
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Huawei recently released their source for kernel.
So roms should be on their way!
https://www.xda-developers.com/kernel-sources-released-for-the-huawei-mate-9-and-huawei-p10/
While we havent heard anything from Xiaomi and it has been about 6months since the release of the mi 6

Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.

NisseGurra said:
Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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all depends on the dev support, just look at honor 8 and 9.

Mi6 is better. I had P9 and huawei release kernel sources and what? One dev make lineage os which works worser than the worst custom rom on mi5. But EMUI is ok, like miui.

Had P10,overheating,bad battery life due to old CPU as well as GPU performance & throttling make Mi6 a clear winner here. Also there was no oleophobic coating and u risk getting a model with anciennt memory speeds(it's a lottery,i ended up with slow one).

NisseGurra said:
Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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Still, kirin phones don't have much dev love and popularity around developers as Snapdragon does. Xiaomi mi 6 will have by far better and more roms than any huawei phone.

The Honor 9 might be another option, since it's slightly cheaper than the P10, depending on where you are.
I have the Mi6 and love it. It's the best phone I've owned. It has the fastest SD processor, a great display, great sound, a great camera, fast charging, and a notification LED.
Since I was curious, I recently purchased a OnePlus 5. Even using the Google camera app, the OP5's photos weren't as good as the Mi6's. The Mi6's colours were far more natural and true to life, especially the skin tones and colours on trees. The OP5 felt huge, too.
The Honor 9 (and probably the P10) seems very similar to the Mi6, but it seems slightly inferior in every category. If you compare GSM Arena's reviews, the Honor's processor is slightly slower, battery charging takes longer, the battery is smaller, there's less RAM in the cheapest variant, there's no Gorilla Glass and the 1080P videos are inferior. MIUI seems to receive more updates than EMUI, too.

Yeah MIUI got more updates. Just one problem i have with MIUI, expandable notifications on lockscreen and in list, you can do it with two fingers but that's. Hope they will implement that in the future updates.

p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10

Codseus said:
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
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maybe camera but defiantly not battery!!!

Codseus said:
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
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Battery is laughable comparing to Mi6

Too many people not knowing what they re talking about are writing in this topic.
mi6 is a clear winner

P10 camera might be a little bit better... Might.
But nothing beats the Mi 6 with battery. Nothing.
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Should I buy or not?

Hi guys
I'll try to make this short. I lost my Redmi Note 5 Pro (which I loved) and now I need a new phone. I stumbled upon the Honor 7x while searching for an alternative. You should know that I never bought a Huawei phone, I only used high end devices from Samsung, OP, LG and recently been using Xiaomi phones. I had a very bad experience with the Redmi Note 4 with its MTK SoC, since I LOVE flashing custom ROMs and doing all sort of new stuff with my device (rooting, xposed, theming..etc).
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!

If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.

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If you're type of person who loves to flash mods like Gcam,ViperForAndroid.prefer having tons of ROMs, smooth Gaming Experience Then a big No. Considering Honor 7x on Oreo is treble enabled you can surely flash gsi and Openkirin gsi yet none of them having VOLTE. Development on Kirin Soc is just bare bones. Speaking of EMUI is pretty good if you prefer Customs Skins over stock android. Speaking of battery gives Average 6-7 SOT.
Suggestion: if you're in hurry then get zenfone max pro else wait for Mi max 3, Nokia X6 , Mi A2 they are launching soon in indian markets.
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Omg I love the Asus zenfone max pro! It seems such a great device for the price of less than 200$. But I can't seem to find it anywhere aside from flipkart or ebay (overpriced). I'm not an indian so I can't order it from flipkart. Do you know if it will be sold in the future on aliexpress or another international website?

OnePlus is the way to go. Get the 5T or the 6, both are very fine devices. Heck, even the OP3 (and 3T) are still good today.

If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.

TouchOdeath said:
If you like to tweak devices then this is for you. This phones hardware potential is ridiculous. The silicone is just a great piece of engineering and you can install some ROMS. Developers will make more because they know how good the hardware, not to mention the great price tag.
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You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?

Silvers91 said:
You mean sources for this device are now available for devs to create custom ROMs?
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I'm not sure if sources are available, but Huawei is normally pretty good at releasing such things.
According to this URL: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/open...Type=openSourceSoftware&pageSize=10&curPage=1
If you search 'BND', you'll see "7X,BND,EMUI5.1,Android7.0"
What I meant originally was, the Honor 7X is an INCREDIBLE phone at an incredible price, lots of customization/tweaking options. I personally have lineage OS beta 4 installed.
To answer some of your questions:
How is development doing for this device? Will I be able to easily unlock my bootloader, install TWRP and flash custom ROMs?
Also, how is battery life? and does the Kirin SoCs overheat and thermal throttle like MTK while gaming?
How is the overall smoothness of this phone (on official ROM)? No lags or some lags?
I'd really appreciate it if someone of you could provide some useful inputs based on your experience with this phone.
Thanks!
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1. I'm not a developer so I don't know, there are only a handful of custom OS you can download ATM.
2. Huawei provides you with a bootloader code to easily unlock the bootloader.
3. The trick with TWRP is you need to beable to install a TWRP that does decryption. Reason being is the Honor 7x, I don't know if its the entire phone.. it probably is... but I know for a fact some parts are encrypted, and you can't make a TWRP backup unless your TWRP can handle decryption. I tried to install a TWRP with decryption thats suppose to work for our phone, but I got some kind of error (I didn't write it down, but the error basically meant that it didn't work). The TWRP with decryption thats available was made for another Huawei phone thats suppose to work for the 7x. One thing you could try, would be to decrypt the phone, and then see if you can make a TWRP backup. Theres a few ways to do that: 1. TWRP>Format Data. 2. fastboot erase userdata 3. Theres probably a GUI way to do it in Settings>Security&Privacy>Encryption&Credentials>Encrypt Phone.
4. Battery life, Its way better than the Honor 5x. I haven't had my phone for very long, so I can't tell you the real world battery results. My battery menu says I have 7 days left of battery if that tells you anything. My Honor 5x got 4 days max, and this phone I know beats it... so my estimate is 5 days of battery for my usage. I'm pretty sure that Oreo has made improvements as far as battery. I looked at catlog in realtime, there wasn't hardly any activity going on unless you did something. On my Honor 5x there was always activity going on regardless.
5. I haven't played any games yet, So I don't know about SOC temps while under load. I've read on other posts that Kirin SOCS temps are good. Right now mines sitting at 29 celcius, which is excellent!
6. On official ROM, I only played with it for a short while, it seemed smooth. Now its not as smooth as iPhone, but I felt like it was just about as smooth as an android is gonna get.

Realme 6 pro Or Poco X2?[suggestion request]

Hey guys,
I have checked tons of youtube reviews and online reviews on the devices but for the first time in my life I am stuck to take one of these phones. I had mostly used bigger smart phones since the android era, like Sony Z ultra, Mi max etc .
I need to get one of these phones immediately, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR HONEST opinion.

I think Poco X2 is a better choice.
It has better screen (120Hz vs 90Hz) and much better community support (custom kernel, ROM, etc).
Especially for community support, Realme is still FAR BEHIND Xiaomi.
Realme 6 Pro still got no bootloader unlock while Poco X2 already had several custom ROM and kernel available right freaking now.
I'd stay away from realme if they still being a b*tch like this, that's how disappointed I am with my 6 pro.

angry_machine said:
I need to get one of these phones immediately, PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR HONEST opinion.
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If you want better cus rom support and a better primary sensor then X2. There isn't much of a difference. 120hz gives a tiny bit of more smoothness in scrolling other wise you'll be stuck on 60hz on most of the interface. This high refresh rate thing is a new gimmick just like quad camera where 2 of the sensors are useless (macro & depth). Atleast the 6pro has a telephoto lens. Also poco x2 with 120hz drains battery faster. 720G and 730G are mostly similar in terms of performance. Ad situation is a lot better on Realme as u will have to turn off one single toggle and all ads are gone.
I have used stock android most of life and I hated the idea of a custom skin but realme ui is good (after disabling a few coloros apps) and you will get used to the ui in 2-3 days and it feels a lot more smooth and polished, even though a few options are missing.
Normally the Pro versions have good cusrom support but realme didn't allow bl unlock yet, once they do there will be some roms on the way as sources are released already (I think, not completely sure).

Question Phone life?

Hi, I want to buy a poco f3 next year and I want to know if there are some bugs, like motherboard issues like poco x3 pro. How long does this phone can last ( Phone not battery)?

Rares6567 said:
Hi, I want to buy a poco f3 next year and I want to know if there are some bugs, like motherboard issues like poco x3 pro. How long does this phone can last ( Phone not battery)?
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next year
by the time it becomes next year, sd870 will only be good enough for candy crush
no bugs here, im pretty happy with the phone
only issue is the virtual proximity sensor, i used to cringe at first but then i got used to it

I'm pretty happy with my Poco F3. I installed a Custom ROM on it, but MIUI is also good.
The phone itself, yeah.. everything's cool. The camera is decent for me. Display awesome, 120 Hz OLED. Performance is excellent.
Battery.. depends on your OS, your apps etc, software-stuff ^^ but software-stuff can always be changed.
But MIUI isn't bad in terms of battery, it's normal.
Sound is very nice, especially with Dolby Atmos. You have 2 speakers, so stereo..
Yeah, no issues for me ^^

Also I don't think Poco F3 is "useless" next year. You will still be able to play demanding games, like Genshin Impact etc..
Only being able to play Candy Crush next year, that's a gross overstatement. The Snapdrapon 865+ can do much more than that, I'll tell you that. ^^
I play PlayStation 2 games on my phone. sm00th like butter
and if the price is right, next year. sure you can go for it. But keep Official OS-updates in mind, because Xiaomi will only provide updates for a certain period - At some point they will say: We don't provide OS-updates anymore for Poco F3, but then you can still get Updates through Custom ROMs.
Also keep other phone models in mind next year, maybe a better phone for same price next year? who knows.

Thanks for helping. I did a mistake, when I said next year I mean next month ( January *2023*)

Yup worth considering!
Altho, if I would buy a phone today, I would get a phone with a 5000 mAh battery instead of 4500 mAh, and maybe slightly slower processor, because I find myself not really using the Horse-power of Snapdragon 865+ very much... (yes I play a few games, but not much)
So I would trade bigger battery for slightly slower processor.
But that's just me. If you are a gamer, Poco F3 is excellent.
*However* Poco F3 has excellent Custom ROM-support, there are lots of very stable Android 13 Custom ROMs available.
Other phones may not have as many Custom ROMs available, it all depends on the popularity of the phone. And Poco F3 is very popular. And for best Custom ROM-support, better to get Qualcomm instead of Mediatek.

cyanGalaxy said:
Yup worth considering!
Altho, if I would buy a phone today, I would get a phone with a 5000 mAh battery instead of 4500 mAh, and maybe slightly slower processor, because I find myself not really using the Horse-power of Snapdragon 865+ very much... (yes I play a few games, but not much)
So I would trade bigger battery for slightly slower processor.
But that's just me. If you are a gamer, Poco F3 is excellent.
*However* Poco F3 has excellent Custom ROM-support, there are lots of very stable Android 13 Custom ROMs available.
Other phones may not have as many Custom ROMs available, it all depends on the popularity of the phone. And Poco F3 is very popular. And for best Custom ROM-support, better to get Qualcomm instead of Mediatek.
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What phone do you think it's good, battery and performance? First I wanted to buy a pixel 6a but idk if it's worth it.
And about custom roms on Poco f3 I don't I will install any bc I have an phone that was hard bricked and I don't to destroy the poco too , alse bc i don't know if it containd bugs or unfunctional apps

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What phone do you think it's good, battery and performance? First I wanted to buy a pixel 6a but idk if it's worth it.
And about custom roms on Poco f3 I don't I will install any bc I have an phone that was hard bricked and I don't to destroy the poco too , alse bc i don't know if it containd bugs or unfunctional apps
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Somewhere next year Poco F3 will get the last android update and after that about a year of security patches (every 3 months). Personal I wouldn't pick it if you plan to use stock ROM and value updates unless custom ROM is an option.
Custom ROM wise in my opinion it's a very good choice. LineageOS has at the time 3 maintainers for this device (as the only Xiaomi device). I expect the support to last at least a little. IMHO its really difficult to brick the device if you follow the installation manual to the letter.
Compared to Poco X3 pro I really enjoy the AMOLED that keeps the screen very readable in sunlight. I also like the colours and the dark mode but that's subjective.
From my experience Poco F3 tends to last on battery similarly to Poco X3 pro (which has 5.1 k mAh battery) in daily usage, possibly thanks to the amoled screen. Standby will be longer on the poco x3 pro though.
Performance wise its definitely a much better choice compared to pixel 6a that has tensor which is just much less energy efficient and has unstable performance during games.

Rares6567 said:
Hi, I want to buy a poco f3 next year and I want to know if there are some bugs, like motherboard issues like poco x3 pro. How long does this phone can last ( Phone not battery)?
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Poco F3 will be updating for a few more months by Xiaomi and I'll try to aggregate my best guess on it.
As far I remember from some Xiaomi's statement the Poco F3 will receive two full Android upgrades and four main MIUI also. Then Android 11 => 12 and 13 & MIUI 12 => 12.5, 13, 14 and 15.
If I'm right the F3 will be part of .DEV flavour until Q2/Q3 2023 (2 years) and then will receive the last MIUI 15 Stable build based on Android 13 with some occasional security updates by Xiaomi. Probably every 3 months.

wait for the poco F-27z seriously

870 888 8G1 8G1+ 8G2
870 is like 5 generation old now
if it were up to me i would get the 8G2, or atleast an 8G1 or the latest generation 7xxG if im on a budget

heybaybee said:
Somewhere next year Poco F3 will get the last android update and after that about a year of security patches (every 3 months). Personal I wouldn't pick it if you plan to use stock ROM and value updates unless custom ROM is an option.
Custom ROM wise in my opinion it's a very good choice. LineageOS has at the time 3 maintainers for this device (as the only Xiaomi device). I expect the support to last at least a little. IMHO its really difficult to brick the device if you follow the installation manual to the letter.
Compared to Poco X3 pro I really enjoy the AMOLED that keeps the screen very readable in sunlight. I also like the colours and the dark mode but that's subjective.
From my experience Poco F3 tends to last on battery similarly to Poco X3 pro (which has 5.1 k mAh battery) in daily usage, possibly thanks to the amoled screen. Standby will be longer on the poco x3 pro though.
Performance wise its definitely a much better choice compared to pixel 6a that has tensor which is just much less energy efficient and has unstable performance during games.
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Thanks. I guess I will buy a 10T pro

Rares6567 said:
What phone do you think it's good, battery and performance? First I wanted to buy a pixel 6a but idk if it's worth it.
And about custom roms on Poco f3 I don't I will install any bc I have an phone that was hard bricked and I don't to destroy the poco too , alse bc i don't know if it containd bugs or unfunctional apps
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Pixels have good camera, but the rest of the specs are mediocre for their price.
I hardbricked my Poco F3 once, but got it restored. I could perhaps help you get your hardbricked Xiaomi back to life, if you still have it.
About good battery & performance... I would pick something from Xiaomi again maybe, because they offer good hardware at cheap price (I don't like the brand but the hardware is good.)
I would probably pick some Redmi or Poco phone, but with 5000 mAh, and Snapdragon-processor. ^^
But.. Poco F3 *is* good, I can tell you that. I'm happy and I will keep my F3 for some years.
If my battery dies at some point, I can easily replace it, because I took my phone apart once already

cyanGalaxy said:
Pixels have good camera, but the rest of the specs are mediocre for their price.
I hardbricked my Poco F3 once, but got it restored. I could perhaps help you get your hardbricked Xiaomi back to life, if you still have it.
About good battery & performance... I would pick something from Xiaomi again maybe, because they offer good hardware at cheap price (I don't like the brand but the hardware is good.)
I would probably pick some Redmi or Poco phone, but with 5000 mAh, and Snapdragon-processor. ^^
But.. Poco F3 *is* good, I can tell you that. I'm happy and I will keep my F3 for some years.
If my battery dies at some point, I can easily replace it, because I took my phone apart once already
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Yea thanks, I think I will buy a Mi 10T Pro or simple

Rares6567 said:
Yea thanks, I think I will buy a Mi 10T Pro or simple
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Hi,
I love my F3, phone has been solid as a rock, yes the Proximity sensor was a bit tricky in the early days, I do miss wireless charging and a SD Card slot like my old LG G7 but you can't compare a Flagship to a mid/budget phone.
I got a great deal here in the UK, £50 off + 2 years Warranty, I`m not a fan of MIUI because i use a Samsung smartwatch as a trusted device but Miui only support xiaomi devices.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi73Piwo-37AhWUre0KHbuiBLsYABAIGgJkZw&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESbeD2xFPsiN4CLDsOMHJZuzbQVY0-rj-W1nqPQW3hLf9j5EI5ypwevdigfq24ibjmn6pTTPG_yhuHczmoNd7Oqt5xqIDtQYw2dZ6HjjH_vUJcY64FO1kmD_T6k5dVPP6opGULYqYpXjjPec2xKec&sig=AOD64_0xi3K3HBFIOyIih31mns8mKWITng&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwi8m-uwo-37AhUQhFwKHc17C7UQ9aACKAB6BAgGI looked long and hard before i chose the F3, i wanted good value with great custom rom support, i couldn't be happier.
In life, it`s not about saving money it`s about getting best value for your money, unless money is not a issue.
I hope you make the right choice for you

johnr64 said:
Hi,
I love my F3, phone has been solid as a rock, yes the Proximity sensor was a bit tricky in the early days, I do miss wireless charging and a SD Card slot like my old LG G7 but you can't compare a Flagship to a mid/budget phone.
I got a great deal here in the UK, £50 off + 2 years Warranty, I`m not a fan of MIUI because i use a Samsung smartwatch as a trusted device but Miui only support xiaomi devices.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwi73Piwo-37AhWUre0KHbuiBLsYABAIGgJkZw&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESbeD2xFPsiN4CLDsOMHJZuzbQVY0-rj-W1nqPQW3hLf9j5EI5ypwevdigfq24ibjmn6pTTPG_yhuHczmoNd7Oqt5xqIDtQYw2dZ6HjjH_vUJcY64FO1kmD_T6k5dVPP6opGULYqYpXjjPec2xKec&sig=AOD64_0xi3K3HBFIOyIih31mns8mKWITng&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwi8m-uwo-37AhUQhFwKHc17C7UQ9aACKAB6BAgGI looked long and hard before i chose the F3, i wanted good value with great custom rom support, i couldn't be happier.
In life, it`s not about saving money it`s about getting best value for your money, unless money is not a issue.
I hope you make the right choice for you
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Yes thanks for your opinion

3zozHashim said:
870 888 8G1 8G1+ 8G2
870 is like 5 generation old now
if it were up to me i would get the 8G2, or atleast an 8G1 or the latest generation 7xxG if im on a budget
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I'd dare to suggest to get at least 8G1+ or 8G2 as 888 and 8G1 are less energy efficient than the 870. They're only better in benchmarks testing temporary peak performance and they use much more energy for it.
In terms of energy efficiency:
8G1 < 888 < 870 < 8G1+ < 8G2

heybaybee said:
I'd dare to suggest to get at least 8G1+ or 8G2 as 888 and 8G1 are less energy efficient than the 870. They're only better in benchmarks testing temporary peak performance and they use much more energy for it.
In terms of energy efficiency:
8G1 < 888 < 870 < 8G1+ < 8G2
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Ok thanks!

I have the Poco F3 for almost a year now. I'm also very happy with it. As john64 said:
johnr64 said:
I love my F3, phone has been solid as a rock, yes the Proximity sensor was a bit tricky in the early days [...]
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I also feel the same. The lack of a true Proximity sensor is weird at best, but given the other benefits the F3 brings to the table (price, reliability, strong dev community, fast cpu/gpu), it's an acceptable trade-off.
All in all, it's a great phone, still worth its value.

henriquemaia said:
I have the Poco F3 for almost a year now. I'm also very happy with it. As john64 said:
I also feel the same. The lack of a true Proximity sensor is weird at best, but given the other benefits the F3 brings to the table (price, reliability, strong dev community, fast cpu/gpu), it's an acceptable trade-off.
All in all, it's a great phone, still worth its value.
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Thanks for your opinion, this helps me so much!