Hi,
I remember from owning an IPhone having to synchronise my ewallet (a password manager) files over the air from the desktop whilst the app was running on the phone. (I'll admit it was a minor annoyance).
Having moved to android and using a combination of dropbox and keepass, I don't really think about anymore - I just open dropbox and click the file and keepass opens up.
But, what about WP7? I realise that apps are only permitted to use their own storage. If I were to build a say, a keepass app for WP7, would I be back to building some desktop client software that allow syncing over the air whilst the app was running (like IPhone/ewallet), or hooking into any number of online sync services like Dropbox, Box.net, Pogoplug, etc, just to get the file some place the app can reach it.
I'm having trouble thinking of any other option given the lack of any common storage.
Thanks
If you did develop Keepass for WP7, you'd have your first customer here!
I'm actually tempted to try and port it myself, and I've come to the same conclusion as you regarding storage. The local KDB file would need to held in private storage and synchronised to an off-device copy, be that a desktop app or something like drop box.
A keepass app is one of the things I was considering. Not so sure about it now.
I'll have a look round for an elegant solution.
Well, isn't Skydrive the same as Dropbox? As I understood WP7 uses Skydrive to store your files 'in the cloud'; so why not put your Keepass file there?
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Well, isn't Skydrive the same as Dropbox? As I understood WP7 uses Skydrive to store your files 'in the cloud'; so why not put your Keepass file there?
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I'd not considered skydrive/mesh. I'll 'ave a look.
Thanks for the heads-up.
I'm thinking of writing a desktop synching app myself. That way any WP7 app could connect to it to import files from a PC.
I've thought about using skydrive myself, but it doesn't seem to offer a way to download the file directly.
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
Well, well, well...I guess if Microsoft wasn't going to step in and make SkyDrive play nice on WP7 (access through browser doesn't count if you cannot sync), then someone had to. I like where Send To WP7 is going. It is quite impressive indeed.
It's just a shame that Microsoft, who probably has more data centres than 98% of all corporations in the world, and is in the best position to promote cloud services ( like Windows Live ) is still lagging behind.
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
kapanak said:
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
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No APIs to let me do this, unfortunately.
karelj said:
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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I'm not so sure this is practical, you may as well just email a link, right? if you're talking about from the browser, using the bookmarklet for alternate phones is supported in all desktop browsers.
davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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Thank you for directly conversing with us Dave. I agree getting documents to the phone is the ideal usage of this application. Keep up the good work!
sayonical said:
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
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just set it up. The push notifications are instant!!!
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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Interesting stuff indeed. I for one, appreciate the work you are doing.
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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I've been trying out the desktop app with the local Wi-Fi method, and this seems to me the best way to get stuff to the phone. It's very quick too.
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
Even though it's only an early preview, the dekstop app is great. I like the integration with Windows 7; I have it pinned to my taskbar. Might be useful to have a "Start with Windows" option in there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the bugs like the lack of proper icons in the jumplist Tasks and the filenaming issue that causes PDFs to be unreadable from WP7. To be expected with a preview.
From a UI point of view, I think the "Set Transfer Destination" option should not be in the jumplist and should be in the main config window instead. It's not a menu item you would need ever access to again after you've set your dropbox settings.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
Great stuff, getting great use out of this app so far, and its usefulness will explode when copy and paste arrives to WP7 devices. Thanks!
A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
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Not likely, as I've been saying, the phone needs to be able to access a share via the web browser. As far as I know, Dropbox private folders won't do this. That's why I've included an option to mutate the name a bit, so someone can't just guess filenames in your public folder.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
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Note that the phone app has absolutely no support for the desktop app at this time, I will bring support for it in an update. Views are likely, I haven't decided what to do yet. I wouldn't expect that update for a couple of weeks though.
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A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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Thanks.
Send to WP7 Desktop
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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I can not download it in Germany
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Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I actually have this same problem on my device. I opened the same-named notification channel on a dev build, then I uninstalled that build while it had the channel open - now neither the marketplace build nor new dev builds will open the channel.
I don't know how you got into this situation, but my point is that I don't really know what I can do to help--I'm under the assumption that all I can do to fix my device is to do a master reset (so I'm waiting for the NoDo update). I'm hoping that this bug is fixed in the next update, but I don't know if it's even officially reported.
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I can not download it in Germany
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I've selected all possible countries, which I think includes Germany. I don't think there is anything else I can do for you--maybe I could post a link to the XAP and you could sideload it? My only issue with this is that I'll then have to maintain a secondary distribution channel, and will need to build some kind of updater.
you should be able to post a zune link and it should allow him to access it that way. no need to sideload.
The Zune:// link has always been on my product page.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/chrome-to-wp7/
yeah so i was thinking, every now and then i need to go over to my computer to do something i cant do on my phone.. and i gotta say i really dont like that.. my phone is just as poweful as a computer so why cant it work like one? so heres what im gonna try, ill list some apps, and you list some apps, things to make the phone more fully functional! the goal is to never NEED to use your computer to complete a task you should be able to do on your phone.
Adobe Flash Player 11
yeah this ones a biggy, while its not as perfect as using a desktop, it comes pretty close, and with enough fuss you can usually get the job done
aDownloader
i used to use tTottent, but this is much better. a GREAT bittorrent client, with built in searches to thepiratebay, and other torrent sites
ZArchive
for all those times you download a .zip or .rar or otherwise compressed file, and feel stuck.. you downloaded a file, album, etc on the road, and now you wanna open it.. i used to use Root Explorer but sadly it lacks the ability to open files with passwords.. which comes up a lot, ZArchive is a very clean, simple archive manager with password protected archive support, it has a very simple yet attractive UI. and it just works.
Opera Mobile
honestly i prefer Dolphin HD and Dolphin Mini, but nothing works as smoothly as Opera Mobile, theres less hangups, less 'this should work but it isnt.." situations as you often face on mobile browsers.. and it even downloads from weird file uploading sites like 2shared, or zshared, uploaded, hotfile, etc when others simply fail to do so without corruption, or thinking its finished after downloading 128kb (issues ive faced with Dolphin)
AdFree Android
if you use Chrome or Firefox, you might run an adblocker, handy little tool, it also works on apps as well as browsers.
Root Explorer
gives you a fully functional fire manager, you can browse, relocate, copy, and delete any files inside android, this means your SD card, your system files, apps or even that camera shutter sound file
Download All Files
as well as things SHOULD go, they dont always go according to plan, files fail to download, some apps only offer the option to stream, or preview when what you really wanna do is download. this app helps you save things you wish you could but are prevented to
alrighty folks, thats all i can think of for now.. does anyone else have anything useful they can throw out there? or better solutions than the ones ive given? remember were looking for staples, not just
Hey,
All apps are really usefull !
But there is only one app which makes problems.
You wrote "zArchive" is it this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.zdevs.zarchiver&hl=de ?
Cause this one won't open password locked archives every time i try it
For the full desktop experience one app is a must .
BSOD app make you think you are on windows .
jje
I'm trying to improve performance with a Seagate Wireless Plus and Microsoft Surface RT. The Wireless Plus can stream video and audio through an app on iDevices and Android (where it works very well). There is no app for Windows RT but files can be displayed using Internet Explorer. Selecting a file starts sending the file to the Surface RT but Surface waits until the file is fully downloaded before it starts playing. I'm using the default, Xbox Video app.
Is there a better solution?
Is there some way to force the video to start playing while the file is downloading?
Is there an app hidden somewhere that will work with the Wireless Plus?
Thank you
Questions 2 and 3 are both flat no's.
Question 1 though, if you can access the files in a file browser (ie, not internet explorer) which if the device isnt a pile of junk you should be able to, then browse to them in the file browser and open them from there. Windows will stream them fine in this way.
Sadly looking at the user guide for the wireless plus, seagate have shot themselves in the foot before rubbing salt in their wounds. They haven't allowed the device to function as a standard network storage device like they should have (which would have massively broadened the number of devices it would work with and increased the flexibility in its usage) and won't allow you to view it in that way.
Alternately, you could just use the USB cable......
It should actually be possible to write an app to do this, but I'm not aware of one that works. If there's a Windows desktop app that does the trick, it might be possible to port it, or something else that speaks the same protocol, to (jailbroken) RT devices.
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It should actually be possible to write an app to do this, but I'm not aware of one that works. If there's a Windows desktop app that does the trick, it might be possible to port it, or something else that speaks the same protocol, to (jailbroken) RT devices.
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Thanks for the note.
Are you volunteering?
The Wireless Plus has a samba server so I can see and open files with File Explorer. I was hoping for something a bit easier for someone who is not so technically proficient (as in the wife).
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Thanks for the note.
Are you volunteering?
The Wireless Plus has a samba server so I can see and open files with File Explorer. I was hoping for something a bit easier for someone who is not so technically proficient (as in the wife).
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big shortcut on the desktop, that usually works.
Although in my stepdads case I had to add a new shortcut to chrome, then go into properties and give it the internet explorer icon and put "INTERNET" as the shortcut text and leave it on the desktop in the very top left corner where he can find it. From there he was fine though. Just the chrome icon confused him somehow and since then he now seems to get the idea of different web browsers existing separately but the icon has stayed where it is. This is still the same person who also saves all of his files to the desktop and cant find them if they go anywhere else, such as his documents.....
Should cover the wife and if the samba server works properly you should simply be able to add a shortcut to it directly to whichever directory you need. I should think it should be fine like that.
When the Note 10 and Note 10+ were unveiled, they described OneDrive integration that would allow us to view our OneDrive pictures within the Gallery app itself. I'd like this as I find the OneDrive app itself to be lacking as a picture viewer. Plus, I'd assume that in the Gallery app, viewing the picture library would extend to being able to edit the pictures too, similar to how we can with local pictures.
Because I lean towards OneDrive, this was a pretty significant reason that I purchased the Note 10+, as I was on the fence between it and a couple other phones.
When I spoke to Samsung, they indicated that this feature was not available in Canada and had no ETA. But I've read a couple reviews of the phone where they indicated the feature wasn't there, but they admitted they might not be looking in the right place.
Because I'm located in Canada and was told this by Samsung, is there anyone in the US (or heck, Canada for that matter) that does have this integration? Is it just a setting I'm missing somewhere? I've also heard some rumblings that this might be unveiled in the fall, which I suppose would align with Android 10/OneUI 2.0 in fall/winter/spring?
That's all I have. Anyway, thought I'd run it past you guys 'n gals as you're all a lot more knowledgeable on this than I am.
Thanks so much!
Try with My Files app. Samsung file explorer
raul6 said:
Try with My Files app. Samsung file explorer
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Thanks, I'll experiment a little bit tonight. I followed your suggestion and now have my OneDrive integrated with My Files, though while it makes it easier to browse, it's not quite what I was expecting as the Gallery app still doesn't see them, though I'm at least able to tap in My Files and open in Gallery. My understanding (which could be completely out to lunch) was that Gallery would almost work the way Google Photos allows you to see and edit your files from Google's cloud storage. Again, I might be way out to lunch, and so if so, my bad.
So I was able to add my OneDrive account to the My Files app, and I can browse it there, but there is still no integration inside the Gallery app.
I did find this article on Samsung's Singapore web site that outlines how it's basically supposed to work:
https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/onedrive-service-for-samsung-galaxy-note10/
It looks like I might just have to wait for my carrier (I presume) to release the next Maintenance Release for my Note 10+. No idea when that will be... ugh.