The Battery Drain Very fast Is This Normal ?
I'm on Official 12.0.8 Global
This forum feels dead before it even came to life. Im no android pro by any means. I don't have any such issue but, please provide more details. When did it happen? After first boot? How long does it last? Have you checked in battery statistics to check which apps drain battery the most? What are they? And also your miui version
debloat thats the only thing you can do for now
Just writing that the battery is somewhat draining fast, leaves very open why this could be or whether it is just interpretation.
For me battery feels extremely well on miui 12.0.4.0 RKQEUXM.
Such that I can use the phone for two days straight under light usage and charge somewhen on the third day.
Provide better info, like screenshots of the battery graph and app list where you see which app drained which percentage of the total.
Or use apps that analyze further, like better battery stats or such.
You can also compare usage to other phones with comparable battery capacity, etc.
This could give a clue.
But other than that, such statements are rather irritating and the best suggestions are just, provide more info or do something general like, yes, debloating.
Turn off miui optimizations in developer options.its effect on your battery drain.i try it for my self
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I Need Help My Batttery Sucks Balls .. Lol Sry but ive been using this epic rom on the newest modem and i mayb get 2 hrs or so on my phone .. which sucks .. how do i fix this ? the battery heats up sometimes while charging ... im sure its the both battery and rom idk?
Did you calibrate the battery? I had horrible battery issues on my hero and started calibrating battery with new roms and has been stellar can't link due to being on phone but search for battery calibration and you will find the post for proper calibration.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884684
calibrate battery thread :]
I've never calibrated my battery and I never will. The phone battery life varies. If your phone is getting hot and dying in two hours, you have a rogue process.
Manage the poorly written applications and you won't even think "battery calibrate" because you'll see upwards of 36 hours of use on your phone.
Realistically, I get about 12 hours of heavy to medium use out of my phone. I do not use any other third party apps to manage my phone except for Quick Info Pro and even that is not used for anything more than status review. I handle memory management through the built-in Manage Applications, services, etc. On weekends, when I'm not texting a lot, I have seen 40 hours without charging.
If you only have stock and never install anyone else's applications, you'll see a huge difference in how applications (poorly written ones) can affect your phone's battery life.
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Good info from othan, exactly what I tell customers who complain about battery life.
I have been searching as to what is the proper way to cycle charge so I can get the best battery life after installing new kernel and ROM.
However I seem to find different answers
One to drain in completely others say don't?
What do I do?
Unless someone links you to a peer reviewed research paper, you will be reading random anecdotes.
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Unless someone links you to a peer reviewed research paper, you will be reading random anecdotes.
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I wouldn't consider the manufacturer's suggested charging cycles to be "random anecdotes" even if they're not published in a peer reviewed journal.
"Completely draining" should not be practiced on a regular basis with lithium ion. You can't (or shouldn't be able to) reach an actual complete drain before the phone shuts down. If you could (or ever do) the battery would become useless to you as there is a point of low discharge where lithium ions can no longer be charged by a standard charger.
And while most of the time the shut down of the phone and the subsequent charger connection happens before this point - there have been plenty of people who have let their phones go till they shut down then go to charge their battery only to find it will no longer charge.
So every time there is a drain of your battery to the point your phone shuts off you get real close to that point where you will no longer be able to charge that battery (unless your one of those techno chemist electrical engineer types with all the appropriate tools and materials handy).
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And i know i've read somewhere about someone suggesting that people go through this arduous process of draining the battery to a point, charging it fully, draining it completely, and charging it fully again (or something crazy like that... i don't remember exactly) to make the phone detect the full capacity of the battery and avoid any "memory effect", and i believe that whole idea was even shot down by someone at Google who works on the Android OS as being a complete crock.
I really don't think there is any PROCESS that can be done to give you the optimal battery life, aside from what can be done to prevent apps from draining the battery constantly. Some people recommend having a fully charged battery, or having the phone plugged in when you wipe the phone and install a new ROM... i've rarely done that. I've even wiped and installed roms at like 40% battery life... sometimes a bit lower. But in my experience, battery life has more to do with the ROM being used than what you did to try to MAKE the battery life better.
Running a touchwiz-modded ROM like DrewGaren's Serenity and stuff, i'd generally be lucky to get a full day of battery life seemingly no matter how much or how little i used the phone. I'm not what i'd consider a heavy user.... haven't really used my phone much all day today, though it did spend a good portion of the day on the charger. But i'm running the latest build of Task & Ktoonsez AOKP ROM, and it's been on battery for 9.75 hours and is still at 85%... but that's only with 20 minutes of screen time.
Anyway.... all i can say is from my own personal experience, but i don't think there is really any definitive process one can follow to improve battery life beyond what the software itself will do anyway.
Whether or not it has any effect on actual battery performance i would say that running a 'full' cycle or two of drain and charge for android to learn the battery capacity. Probably doesn't have much affect on a stock battery but when i purchased my 4400mah battery it took a few cycles to get an accurate reading from the charge meter. It would drain down to the warning in what it was expecting the stock 2100mah to be dying and ran FF3 for atleast 2 hours non stop on 1-5% until the battery actually gave out. On top of that it couln't decided how much it really wanted to say was remaining, it would jump up and down a percent or two, obviously confused of what to do. Whether or not its necessary to run it to this point is debatable, but with android or myself not knowing how much charge was actually left in the battery i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3846897#post3846897
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone.htm
is it just me or is the kitkat ROM really sucks----battery pretty well?
I also notice that the CPU usage does not drop to 20 percent idle but when I used other ROM (JB based) it becomes 5 percent.
RAM usage is good but I think it hogs the CPU. I used cpuz on measuring the cpu usage
fafalafafa said:
is it just me or is the kitkat ROM really sucks----battery pretty well?
I also notice that the CPU usage does not drop to 20 percent idle but when I used other ROM (JB based) it becomes 5 percent.
RAM usage is good but I think it hogs the CPU. I used cpuz on measuring the cpu usage
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Where can I get the JB rom for OGP?
For me, Android was best at JB and went backwards with KK.
Yes, I've noticed absolutely horrible battery life with KK. KK just feels like it is several different parts all just thrown together.
The only reason I think is that theoretically JB uses more battery is that the system uses more voltage than the kitkat. however, what's less voltage use if the CPU is always busy and wakeups are just everywhere.
Hi guys, maybe you could post in some battery stats so we could know more about whats draining your battery in particular and suggest some fixes. I've actually experienced the opposite with kitkat-battery life for me improved. There was even an instance that I got the phone to last 30 hours, with 5 hours, 48 mins. screen. On another instance I got 15 hours life and 5 hours 25 mins screen on. I just lost the screenshots as I had to reflash stock when i was doing some G3 mods., but nevertheless i could post some new ones.
I value batter life was well and i'm curious to see how yours could be improved too..
blitzkriegger said:
Hi guys, maybe you could post in some battery stats so we could know more about whats draining your battery in particular and suggest some fixes. I've actually experienced the opposite with kitkat-battery life for me improved. There was even an instance that I got the phone to last 30 hours, with 5 hours, 48 mins. screen. On another instance I got 15 hours life and 5 hours 25 mins screen on. I just lost the screenshots as I had to reflash stock when i was doing some G3 mods., but nevertheless i could post some new ones.
I value batter life was well and i'm curious to see how yours could be improved too..
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What a battery life. 15 hours screen time?
how can we accurately measure? because I only use CPU-Z and installed DS battery saver to save power. right now it only used 2% of my battery during the night. (from 1:45 - 5:50am)
I see. can you tell me what app should I use to determine CPU usage of each app/service?
fafalafafa said:
What a battery life. 15 hours screen time?
how can we accurately measure? because I only use CPU-Z and installed DS battery saver to save power. right now it only used 2% of my battery during the night. (from 1:45 - 5:50am)
I see. can you tell me what app should I use to determine CPU usage of each app/service?
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No, my battery lasted 15 hours, and my screen-on time (total time i spent using the phone) was 5+ hours coz i basically used my phone then for gaming the whole day I suggest you download gsam battery monitor app (it also has a temperature_bat. Usage graph), as well as wakelock detector. Another alternative would be better battery stats. What you would need to observe would be the apps and wakelocks draining your battery both when you are using your phone, and also when its idle.
I also notice that battery capacity is 2A in which it should be 3.140A right?
this shows on kitKat but on jellybean, it's 3.140A again.
is there something wrong with the detection of battery capacity?
fafalafafa said:
I also notice that battery capacity is 2A in which it should be 3.140A right?
this shows on kitKat but on jellybean, it's 3.140A again.
is there something wrong with the detection of battery capacity?
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What happened was that in kitkat, the permisssions required to be able to access battery stat files changed. Thus, apps w/c could freely access the batter stats in JB cannot gain complete access in Kitkat. This is the case for some battery monitor apps w/c now have lesser accuracy in reporting battery. No worries though, as there are means to bypass this problem. If you have xposed you could install a module for this. Also, some apps like gsam battery monitor come with a separate root companion app. Once you install those batter stats will be accurate.
Here's a screenshot of my battery stats for today..might not be 5+ hrs of screen on as i did a lot of rebooting today (themed with g3 tweaksbox). Nevertheless, this is just to show that kitkat has the potential to provide good battery life. Also enclosed is a screenshot of one of the battery apps i use, gsam.
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
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Perry2547 said:
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Just so you know, first my cell radio and wifi were both on the whole time. Second, i was on auto brightness the whole time. Third, i played clash of clans as you see in there.
If you have not done this already, adjust your cpu to save your battery juice. Set the cpu governor to powersaver or interactive mode if you just using the phone to send msg and make calls. I let my phone run on msm-dvcs and when I'm not plug in. Check out ROM toolbox if you're rooted. Seriously folks, instead of complaint about how much the roms suck the juice, try these different ways to see they make any difference for you.
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Perry2547 said:
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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That's pretty much a tablet use. You want great battery buy a zero lemon battery, the bulk is worth it, I got 3 days with very heavy use
Perry2547 said:
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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I found a way to make my phone last a long time. I just turn my phone off and don't use it. I wish I would have though of this sooner.
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I barely got this tablet yesterday and already seeing fast battery drain. I don't have that much apps/games. I rooted it today in the afternoon but I don't think it will drain the battery.... What's the deal here?
This is my 10.1
geeshiet said:
I barely got this tablet yesterday and already seeing fast battery drain. I don't have that much apps/games. I rooted it today in the afternoon but I don't think it will drain the battery.... What's the deal here?
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There's always an initial drain that is rather fast due to the fact that the charging is not perfectly optimized, notably while it's new. Even though it says 100% it's most likely not the fact. On the other hand due to the large screen the screen uses a lot of power. When using Cyanogen for maybe 20-30 min/day I'm still at 97% the next morning w/o charging. But, I use a lot of mods and settings trying to optimize battery usage. Once you get used to the device and start experimenting with ROM's, settings, mods I'm sure you will find a way to optimize it to your flavor.
The tablet has to scan all directories for media.
Here are some really good tips. You can also shut off a lot of samsung bloatware. I have probably 50 things shut off along with below tips I get amazing battery life and never any lag. Not a fan of magazine touchwiz so using nova and couldn't be happier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782239
For a new device, you need to cycle the battery to about 10%, then fully charge, to set the battery meter "high" and "low" flags (some call this "calibrating the battery meter"), before you can expect the battery meter readings to be anywhere accurate.
I'm new to my Pixel 2 XL and have the 8.1 update and am seeing horrible battery life. Noticed others in here also experiencing this and wondered if any of you have some recommended settings for EX Kernel that can improve battery life? I only use the phone for notes, camera, calls, messages, etc... Daily use type of stuff. I don't play any games on my phone other than Hearthstone and it doesn't require much to be smooth and I watch some YouTube here and there but it also doesn't require much so anything I can do to get those 6 hour SoTs everyone raves about with this phone.
Standby is great, in use is just embarrassing.
Mine is opposite. It easy to get 6 or more hours SOT using the phone but the thing drops like 10% battery overnight even with battery and data saver on.
AndrasLOHF said:
Mine is opposite. It easy to get 6 or more hours SOT using the phone but the thing drops like 10% battery overnight even with battery and data saver on.
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Well that's not good. I would much rather deal with on drain than stand-by.
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Well that's not good. I would much rather deal with on drain than stand-by.
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A kernel will not stop a badly behaving app from drawing too much power, or not dozing when it is supposed to. You would be better served in using a battery drain app to find your wakelock/bad actors and deal with them. Beyond the information you can get from the improved Google battery applet, GSam and BBS are two apps that can help pinpoint the application or service causing excessive battery drain. It is not the kernel, and as flar2 states, the new chips are so efficient with power there is almost no room for improvement battery-wise. Most people leave it on the default settings, and use it for extra features and customization.
https://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/
I agree 100%, I just thought some settings adjustments with the kernel could do some good and maybe someone might have some ideas on what would help the in-use battery consumption. I'm currently clean flashed with only Google APPs and Nova Launcher installed along with EX Kernel and Magisk no modules. Battery drain only shows android system... Not a lot to tell me what it really is. Will try the apps you suggest