Can it be put back to Nougat? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

I'm seeing these VERY nice device on ebay at price I can (barely) manage but...
Lord knows what version it'd be right? And I want nothiin' to do with this "A/B Partition", safetynet and all that needless hassle seems to show up AFTER Nougat... (?)
These are really cool device (The Camera ) but if impossible to get it back on Nougat (if an OTA has hozed it) I'd be throwing my money away...
I see the 7.x firmares on Lolinet, don't really need a "Custom" ROM (I see none for Nougat) long as I can get root and clean out the bloat and mess I'm a happy old granny
Thanks in Advance
VW

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My 1st time expericance with root/roms/RSD

Picked up my US (T-mo)Defy last month, it was running Eclair.
I've been reading as much as I could before I attempted to do anything that voids my warrenty. I couldn't wait for the US Froyo release...
So I rooted with SuperOneClick because z4root did not seem to work. Then I got clockwork installed. My first attempt was to install Jboogie3's "beta4Offical" thinking it would keep Eclair and just clean up this blur nonsense. But when I used clockwork recovery, it just hung. No worries, I've still got a working phone.
Next I attempted "JBoogie3 Deblur Honey" and that put me in a boot loop <that was a Oh ****! moment>. Since I could still get into stock recovery and bootloader, I was not too worried. I happen to have the T-mo OTA update.zip on my Defy, so I attempted to flash/install that...but I got the "status 7" error (I think b/c it was still rooted). Since I wanted my phone back that night, I went ahead and installed 3.4.2_145(Finland) .sbf (I think...it was late) with RSD Lite. Anyhow, it got me back up! I had saved my APN earlier, so things were working, but still stock.
Not leaving well enough alone, I figured "why the hell not" and rooted->clockwork and then recovered to "JBoogie3 Deblur Honey". That worked this time.
Happy as a clam now. I was worried about the "H" for my network, but I did speedtests and browsed around and I'm getting 800-100kbps and I can live with the "H"...like a sleeper!
I'm gonna continue to read and try new "roms" (I'm still wet behind the ears on the terms).
I also did it wrong when I tried to restore the orange recovery, and ended up flashing the orange sbf. But its working well and I'm happy as well.
i also own the phone from less than a month and i also messed up everything , install 3.4.2 before reading about non downgreadable....... rooted 3.4.2 finland installed clockwork , took a nandroid backup of 2,34 trying to restore to official 2.1 eclair version it restored and i was happy but no luck it got me on the bootloop....... now i am flashing to 3.42 but not finland ... its uk version hope it works and the phone dont dies.......
by the way my moto swimmed already but its fine ... its very cool to watch your phone at the bottom of water sparkling v ery tough on the outside hope i wont kill it from the inside
edit: installed the uk blur rom but it doesnt give the starting options (LANGUAGE) to change them... now its in german , and reset factory settings doesnt work pushing the button button but it dingoes nothing.... crap , reseting with system recovery also doest help resets but its in german again
Thanks for the report, im relatively new to the defy as well ( just over a week now ) and at some time i will probably start looking into the various roms+upgrades.
the only thing holding me back is the official 2.2 update is due soon ( apparently )
and im not sure if i would be able to return back to my current settings/ version 2.1 should i need to.
New to android, new to Moto-Defy
Fellow Defy users,
Greetings of peace!
I am noob here in the xda developers
First off, really don't want to spam threads.. So I chose to post my message here in this thread for a semi-short explanation of what I want to share.
I am new to the android phones (previously a symbian user), and I just got my new Motorola Defy - Black which I bought here in the Philippines.
I bought 2 models actually one for myself and one for my brother as he requested one as well.
To cut the chase..I just want to share some inputs.
To my shock, the phone has some mods already as I opened it.
**take note that the battery is sealed and all other stuffs are sealed when I got the phone*
It has adobe flash player 10 (not flash lite)
Super User
R. Explorer
ITFUNZ (which is all in chinese)
UC Browser
I believe this are the things needed to "root" your phone.
I heard it's better when your phone is rooted.
android version 2.2.1 Froyo
And the as of my brother's phone, no additional apps as mentioned above.
Android version 2.1 eclair
** Noticed that my camera is better than his and has slightly a different camera interface**
I heard that it's cooler to have a rooted android phone and I hope you can enlighten me with my curiosities.
1. My phone has a 3 day replacement warranty and 1 year Motorola service warranty, should I return the device since it's rooted? Or Should I keep it to save me of the hassle since I would like to root anyway in the future.
2. Prior to question 1, do I lose/void the Motorola warranty since it's already rooted the day I purchased it?
3. I know it’s possible to unroot my device, my concern is that the ITFUNZ and R.Explorer applications are in Chinese. How am I able to understand and access.. “just” in case I need access to these files
The seller told me that the models they’re selling are open to all network or factory unlocked which are processed already by their suppliers.
That’s true since my bro’s phone is opened to all network. Maybe mine was just special because it was already rooted.
Here are the details of my MOTO-DEFY (Setting>Applications>about)
**I hope some one can give me information on each item so I can get a head start working with my phone**
System Version
Version.34.0.117.MB525.Retail.en.GB
Model Number
MB525
Android version
2.2.1
Baseband version
EPU93_U_00.56.00
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9-g3c35cd0
[email protected]#1
Build number
ITFUNZ_DEFY_Eclipse_CN_Base_UK_SP1
Well that’s it for now. I’m just reading and reading more threads to feed my knowledge. (sometime reading to much information confuses already your understanding)
Thanks for reading my post and it will be highly appreciated for you masters out there to give a helping hand on how to maximize and enjoy our Moto-Defy.
-G

Questions from a noob...

Will we be able to get android 6 ( the one that nexus 6p will have )? Why is samsung pay sooo important? I mean android pay is the same thing and it will always work right? I bought the s6 on day one and have been waiting on some nice roms to root since then ( I know that there are a couple, but I want that LTE update to finish. I think it was bieng released in three or four sections). If I root now will I be able to get the latest updates as they come out? Or will I have to wait for the person making the rom to update that rom? Or do I have to do that flash to stock update then flash the rom back in everytime?
Kind of hard to read all your questions thrown together in a big paragraph like that, but i'll attempt to answer them.
Yes we'll probably get Android 6 Marshmallow.
Android Pay vs Samsung Pay http://www.androidcentral.com/whats-difference-between-android-pay-and-samsung-pay
Samsung pay most likely won't work if you trip Knox on your phone, but Android pay will.
if you root you won't get any more OTA updates, but if you unroot you can get them again.
wutake said:
Will we be able to get android 6 ( the one that nexus 6p will have )? Why is samsung pay sooo important? I mean android pay is the same thing and it will always work right? I bought the s6 on day one and have been waiting on some nice roms to root since then ( I know that there are a couple, but I want that LTE update to finish. I think it was bieng released in three or four sections). If I root now will I be able to get the latest updates as they come out? Or will I have to wait for the person making the rom to update that rom? Or do I have to do that flash to stock update then flash the rom back in everytime?
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to summarize android pay vs samsung pay: android pay is for paying with your phone ONLY at new card readers, and samsung pay works on essentially ALL card readers, even the old ones that you see at most stores.
I've also heard that neither app (here and here) will work going forward on rooted devices.
yotvb531 said:
to summarize android pay vs samsung pay: android pay is for paying with your phone ONLY at new card readers, and samsung pay works on essentially ALL card readers, even the old ones that you see at most stores.
I've also heard that neither app (here and here) will work going forward on rooted devices.
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The google engineer's explanation makes sense. However, from what i've tested all you have to do is unroot temporarily and set up android pay and then reroot and it still works. It's just during the install process that they check if you are rooted.

frequent phone call interruptions, Samsung GT-I9192, 4.4.2 (S4 min dual sim)

Hi,
I am sadly no mobile expert and need your kind support. Since over half a year I have 2 problems
very frequent phone call interruptions
much lower battery life time
My phone/sim provider in Germany are Vodafone and Congstar. But I do not think its related to them.
All the trouble started after a certain upgrade to newer versions of Android OS, but can't remember when this exactly started. Then the battery life went down significantly and I get those annoying interruptions in phone calls up to 3-4 times in a ~15 minute call. Its so bad .. What could you recommend to me ?
Is there a better image downloadable, maybe fallback to older version ?
Or is it possible to fallback to the version in ROM ? I fear side effects and unfixed system holes by this.
Thanks for any help !
BR
Moin,
I highly recommend you to switch to CyanogenMod. I took the switch to CM right after i bought my GT-I9195 and all I can say I've never expirenced such problems either on Vodafone nor O2. ATM I'm still at CM11 as this is rock stable and battery life is quite good, ~2-3 days depending on usage
Just follow this steps and you've got nothing to worry about.
1. install custom recovery
2. take a full backup of your current system + SD Card just for the case...
3. install CM11 for your phone + pico OpenGAPPS
4. flash the latest Modem EUR region for your phone right after
5. use it for a few days without any Custom kernel and a minimum of installed apps
6. if your not satisfied restore the backup from step 2.
Sounds simple...it is indeed.
Regards / Grüße
DonQ
DonQuichotte said:
Moin,
I highly recommend you to switch to CyanogenMod. I took the switch to CM right after i bought my GT-I9195 and all I can say I've never expirenced such problems either on Vodafone nor O2. ATM I'm still at CM11 as this is rock stable and battery life is quite good, ~2-3 days depending on usage
Just follow this steps and you've got nothing to worry about.
1. install custom recovery
2. take a full backup of your current system + SD Card just for the case...
3. install CM11 for your phone + pico OpenGAPPS
4. flash the latest Modem EUR region for your phone right after
5. use it for a few days without any Custom kernel and a minimum of installed apps
6. if your not satisfied restore the backup from step 2.
Sounds simple...it is indeed.
Regards / Grüße
DonQ
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1st of all you talk about your GT-I9195 model which is a normal S4 mini, but I have the DUAL SIM version.
Thanks but I want to stay with the normal SW train, I installed CM on a S3 1y ago and I didn't like the look and feel. So CM is not an option for me.
Besides my preferences, if I look at this article its nice to see, that there is progress for the DUAL SIM version but there are still known issues like stuttering problems and of you look down further the auther doesn't intend to create a CM official version out of it, so it looks more like a "hack" than something which is further supported by CM. Looks like an ALPHA SW and a one way road to me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790789
So .. other ideas ?!
Hello,
One point before flashing: your knox is 0x0 ? 1st flash result 0x1 and warranty lost.
Choice is to flash and try to solve this problem by yourself but lost the warranty or see with samsung support what they can do, but after 1st flash there is no coming back.
Kralisec said:
Hello,
One point before flashing: your knox is 0x0 ? 1st flash result 0x1 and warranty lost.
Choice is to flash and try to solve this problem by yourself but lost the warranty or see with samsung support what they can do, but after 1st flash there is no coming back.
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I have no clue about knox. I am using the smartphone with a private and a company SIM.
But there are is company deployed SW on the smartphone. Also e-mail is pure private.
I only use DUAL SIM for the purpose of being able to make company phone calls with the company SIM.
Is there no way to get rid of 4.4.2 ? I remember the phone has been sold with 4.2.x.
Is there no 4.2 stored somewhere on the phone which can be reactivated ? At least then I could check, wheter it runs more stable and whether battery life is then better. But in fact I have no Kies backup, as I hate this bloated software.
Knox information : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
more important: at the end, e-fuse part: "This information may be used by Samsung to deny warranty service"
Kralisec said:
Knox information : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
more important: at the end, e-fuse part: "This information may be used by Samsung to deny warranty service"
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Is somebody able to explain to me in easy words, what this all now means to me ?
Does this mean, I can't do a downgrade without loosing any kind of warranty ?
Should this be the case, I assume I am stuck n the 4.4.2 path and can only hope for vendor support (Samsung).
So shall I open a case with Samsung and hope that they fix the issue should it be a SW related issue ?
In short: if you flash using odin or heimdall for the 1st time you will loose your warranty.
Samsung update is merged inside rom, it's not something you can just uninstall.
I don't know if usual samsung tool let you downgrade to a previous version
(this time without knox issue since it's pure samsung way to update)

Looking for a little guidance

So I am still on the first root basically...in other words I Unlocked and rooted my PXL right away once it was available and haven't really touched it since as far as installing twrp or side loading updates since everything is still in the early stages of development. So anyway I want to update to the newest build with the lift to wake and double tap. I'm having a brain fart and can't really figure out where to start. I'm verizon on build NDE63P and I'm reading that I can't update to that build unless I'm coming from V. Basically what I'm looking for is for somebody to walk me through step by step where I should go to get to where I want to be. If twrp is still buggy I think I'd rather hold off til it's at least in beta. I just want to be on the newest build and retain root and bootloader unlocked. Anyone want to be kind enough to help I would much appreciate it. And download links would be a bonus. Thanks in advance

How can I get Nougat onto the N1?

Stupid question: How would I go about getting Nougat onto the Nokia N1? I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these tablets but would like to know first if there'd be a way of getting Android 7.0 on there. I'm a complete n00b when it comes to this stuff but I know if I want to do this I should get the Taiwan version of the tablet, which has Google Play Services, the Play Store, etc. Maybe even an unlocked bootloader.
I wasn't able to find a thread about Nougat on the N1. Forgive me if one existed somewhere.
The system maybe was EOS
End Of Service
I just run system update
But show cannot connect internet
Yikes, it seems I shouldn't get this tablet after all. Abandoned by both the OEM and community. I'll wait for something else I like. Thanks.

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