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I have a Cingular 8525 that is almost great. The signal strength is consistently at no less than 3bars but usually at 4 bars; but when I try to make a call, sometimes it goes through, other times it reads operation failed...which in the latter case is immediately followed by the signal completely disappearing and searching. It will reconnect and then allow me to place calls immediately afterwards. I also have been receiving alot of voicemails with no missed/received calls, as well as a lot of people saying that my phone rings and rings. (I of course do not receive all of my calls). This is really irritating....I've tried different roms (WM5/WM6) as well as at least half a dozen different radio roms also. I got the phone off of ebay it says that it is unlocked (could this have something to do with it?) B/c I got it off of ebay it interferes with the cingular warranty. ANY helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Cingy 8525 from eBay...
The fact that you received the phone from eBay has nothing to do with your issues... I am not the most knowledgeable person here, but I have had my fair share of bad reception... Have you tried flashing the Cingy Rom? It comes with the stock 1.40 radio... I have a TyTn that I received off of eBay with Cingy service and I have had the best performance with the 1.40 radio.. Of course, it also has to do with your location, etc... You haven't mentioned which roms you have tried and what problems you have experienced other than failing radio strength and missed calls... Granted, that is enough... Post your info from the device information applet in your 8525 and give us more information about your 8525... maybe then, some of the more senior and smarter peeps can help you out...
Or, you can always use the link in my signature to do a more thorough search of the forum... your answer is bound to be here somewhere...
Thanks for the quick reply. From my understanding by me purchasing on ebay it has something to do with a the warranty (should I want to go through an exchange through cingular).
(I knew I was forgetting something) My device information is as follows:
(currently WM5, I just wanted to see if it would help at all)
Rom Version : 1.34.502.1
Rom Date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.40.30.00
Protocol version: 32.73.7020.16H
As far as the roms go, I have no other issues besides the radio. But I've tried, the latest 2 Cingular stocks as of today, Custel 2.5/2.0, Black 3.0 and 2, LVSW 3.3, the all have their own pro's/con's but thats another issue. I'd throw whatever works on here if I can get a properly working radio.
I have searched and seen other forums regarding this issue, but none have released a solution. Radios 1.34 and 1.40 work best, but the problem is still there unfortunately.
Hmmmm... Okay, well the radio rom is the important part... have you tried the 1.41 radio? I see that you are running a lower version of the Cingy Official Released Rom.... Currently at 2.5 something I think... if you search for Radio Rom 1.41 you should be able to find it... At this point, I would think that it may be a combination of items, but am sure that if one radio sux, then try another one... just be careful... since you are already flashing roms, I guess I don't have to tell you that...
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Yeah I tried 1.41, didnt work too well for me. I am comfortable flashing, my old siemens sx66 has been flashed more than bourbon st. I did try to latest cingular official, (which is where I got the 1.40 radio from).
afaik 140.30.00 is the cingular tuned radio ROM. it should work best. As far as ROM's go, it should not really influence the phone functions. imo, lvsw latest ROM is as stable as they get anyway.
Try setting your network type to GSM only, and set the band to your local frequency. what you describe often happens when the phone switches between GSM & WCDMA.
Ill try it, im guessing it (gsm selection) can be done through settings? Does this occur even if the phone is in the same room while it occurs?
Good point, I would not have thought of that since I leave mine on Auto all of the time... I had forgotten that I had similar issues with the 1.38 radio...
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Ill try it, im guessing it (gsm selection) can be done through settings? Does this occur even if the phone is in the same room while it occurs?
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start>settings>phone>band
I have that same issue with my reception in Memphis, Tennessee. It only happens once or twice a day though. The way it was explained to me by Cingular is that "yes you do have great reception. But when the phone tries to call, there is not enough bandwidth to complete the call." The gist of the matter was that too many other people were clogging up the airwaves. Not sure if that was bull**** or not, but that is what I was told.
I just know that it will happen between 3 and 5 pm, when more people are on the phone while driving home. I think they put more towers up as it hasn;t happened in the past week or so.
Also, the warranty is given with the PHONE not to the BUYER. The warranty should be good no matter where you bought it or who you bought it from. That is for factory warranties, not extra warranties or service agreements.
Hope this helps,
Jim
The most common cause of this problem is that fact that you are in Edge and not 3G.. The problem is most likely being caused by the fact that a data connection while in Edge is connected, this can cause dialing issues and phone calls not being recieved.. This problem has gotten better with the latest cingy rom and 1.40 radio that is packaged with it.. what you are experiencing is normal, or has been for me in the cingy/att world, it has happened with both the hermes and wizard..
All great suggestions, I did notice the occurence has dropped when I turned off my data connection. However, even with selecting GSM only and the other suggestions, I unfortunately still experience this problem. I guess my concern now shifts to is this a problem with my phone or not. By that I mean, would swapping phones have any effect on this occurence. (Anybody in the Charleston, WV area?...yea right) NEways, I have 3 cell phones in my family talk plan, and this 8525 is my 3rd or 4th phone on this one line in the last 12 months, I did not experience this with ANY of my other phones, so I know that it is not an issue regarding bottlenecked towers...which I have experienced before in another state.
Just an FYI. My first 8525 exhibited this same behaviour. I found NO solution to it and had to do the exchange via Cing which unfourtunately is not an option here...
Hard resets, radios, nothing fixed the issue. It steadily degraded and I had to do the return.
Now on a side note I did drop the phone once. It was about a 10 inch fall onto our concrete garage floor. The phone showed no damage AT ALL, but shortly there after the radio started acting up. It seem that perhaps the SIM did not sit tightly in the holder and as the phone was used the cover pushed on the battery which might have push on the SIM.
Take a look at how tight the SIM card is making contact. If it is loose and can wiggle freely you may want to try to tighten it up a bit VERY carefully!!!!
Sorry I can't offer a more permanent fix or precise problem!!
Just an update, I never could get the problem fixed (as I had expected). Luckily, however, I was able to keep calling Cingulars warranty department and got ahold of someone who did agree that the warranty follows the phone irrespective of where I got it. Luckily the person who told me that I couldnt do am xchange didn't note in on the system, so that prevented future reps being "tainted". So I am currently running Black Dymond very happily on my now working 8525. Thanks to all for the suggestions, maybe someone buying from eBay later will take heed to be sure to get a phone under warranty and to be persistent! =) Did I mention VERY happily running wm6?
Hey everyone, I looked around and didn't find anyone having my particular problem, but If I put this in the wrong place, or someone has already solved it, just let me know. Don't want to waste your time!
I got my DINC the day they came out in stores...the first one my local store sold in fact. It was working great, but I hated the bloatware and the fact that the Bluetooth stack was not up to date...couldn't connect with a new hands free speaker phone I just bought (Parrot mini-kit slim). I had occasional random reboots, but not too many. Once or twice a week maybe.
So when the unrevoked one-click came out I tried it. Worked great.
Then I started trying ROMs. With everything I've tried I get random reboots...a lot of them. Sometimes it reboots once and works fine for a couple hours. Other times, it will loop until I do a battery pull. When it loops it will sometimes make it all the way to the lock screen, sometimes it will only make it to the boot animation, and sometimes it won't get past the white HTC screen.
I've used a couple different nightly builds of CM6, with and without google apps. I've used Skyraider 1.8 and 1.9 with and without sense. I've tried "touch of photons". Same results and activity on all of them.
Last night I gave up and downgraded to unrooted 2.1 with sense...factory fresh. I reformatted my SD card with the phone, reformatted the phone storage, and I've done factory resets. It still isn't working right.
At this point, I'd be happy to get it back to pre-Unrevoked and just wait for the official OTA Froyo which is supposed to come out soon. Rooting and using a stable rom is fine with me too. I just need a phone that works consistently.
Any ideas? I'm pretty desperate.
sounds like you needed to return it and get a new one since it was doing random reboots from the day you bought it.
have you used any of the hydra kernels to try and OC it, the 1.15 OC would cause mine to reboot. a good stable rom that i tried was JagerRom, 1.7.4 is without sense, and chocolate is with sense. don't try the OTA one because that is for people who updated to the OTA leak and im going to assume you aren't one of thoes people. haha
http://incredibleroms.com/roms/jager/
hope this helps
Thanks Stroupified...
The weird thing is that the reboot issue wasn't that big of a deal before I rooted and started flashing roms. It happened, but not enough to be a problem.
Does the camera and camcorder work on Jager?
Does anyone know if there is something that could have gotten messed up with unrevoked or the roms I tried?
Is there another downgrade method I can use? I just installed the PB31IMG.zip you can find in a few places out there...is there a known reliable source for the downgrade zip?
If I can avoid fighting with Verizon on this I'd like to. I'm obviously outside my 30 days, and I don't want to wait a week or 2 or three or more for a new incredible (if I can convince them to get me one). I'm not even sure warranty or Asurion will do anything with this kind of a problem either...I fear I'm stuck with a $500 reboot roulette machine.
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i have gone through 4 incredibles.
they all exhibited the same rebooting issues... completely stock with NO installed apps.
I have also tested the phones with 2 different batteries and with different sd cards and no sd cards installed.
I had done factory resets.
I get a ****ty cell connection where i live, -100 to -96 db.
Its looking more like a tower issue..
I also have had a reboot issue. I rooted the phone the day I got it and installed a senseless rom. It worked perfect the 1st day then started into a downward spiral of reboots till it went into a full boot loop. I did a nandroid back up of the original rom. No real issues since. Im still rooted and have only had one random reboot in about a week that I know of. I know the first issue was because of the rom but what causes the random reboots. Is it aloss of signal? Im a noob so Im just trying to get some insight.
Im on #2
I got my 2nd Incredible on Friday. Prior one would just get hotter and hotter (possibly due to signal issues) until it would enter a reboot loop. Hoping # 2 fares better.
johnsquared said:
Thanks Stroupified...
The weird thing is that the reboot issue wasn't that big of a deal before I rooted and started flashing roms. It happened, but not enough to be a problem.
Does the camera and camcorder work on Jager?
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ya everything works in jager. but from what everyone else is saying it seems like it could be the signal (or lack there of) that's causing the reboots. have you tried the hybrid prl? it uses the verizon and altell towers instead of just the verizon ones. i haven't tried it because im in cali and there aren't any altell towers near me, but if your stuck with the phone you might as well give it a shot if you live in the supported areas. good luck man.
Link to PRL thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723829
If you don't have problems with signal don't bother with the hybrid prl... it kills your data speeds because it switches you from Verizon data network to Sprints data in most areas. I know in the Carolinas phones randomly reboot a lot because thats Alltel country and phones don't work properly without the hybrid. But down south its mostly Verizon. Out west Texas/Ok is mostly Alltel.
But man honestly - I have the same issue on custom roms. My stock Sense rom does fine though. Sometimes I'll be on a custom rom typing a text and the keyboard just freezes and its over. lol nandroid time to me - I can't take the reboots but hate not having the features of newer software.
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i have tried the hybrid prl and it did not help my rebooting issues.
i have also tried switching to the the cdma codec to -b the higher quality compression... with no luck in fixing the reboots.
I have also made sure there was not an issue with an app causing it, i have tested mine with a clean / factory reset with absolutely no apps installed.
I have had 100% good luck with the leaked ota update, the one upped the camera to 720p recording as well as a hand full of other fixes, and not once did my incredible reboot or crash.
I'm pretty confident that htc has fixed this issue for me, once they drop the 2.2 update that everybody seems to be speculating will be released in a handful of weeks.
Thanks for the input everyone, and I'm sorry others are having the same problem.
I went by my local Verizon store (actual Verizon store, not a 3rd part dealer) and told them my phone was rebooting repeatedly. They didn't even touch my phone...I was out of there in 5 minutes with a FedEx 2nd Day Air confirmation number for a new handset. And my wallet is intact also. I'm rarely impressed by Verizon's customer service, but this time...man... Between the new handset and the impending 2.2 update, I hope to be in good shape.
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johnsquared said:
Thanks for the input everyone, and I'm sorry others are having the same problem.
I went by my local Verizon store (actual Verizon store, not a 3rd part dealer) and told them my phone was rebooting repeatedly. They didn't even touch my phone...I was out of there in 5 minutes with a FedEx 2nd Day Air confirmation number for a new handset. And my wallet is intact also. I'm rarely impressed by Verizon's customer service, but this time...man... Between the new handset and the impending 2.2 update, I hope to be in good shape.
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Same EXACT thing happened with me and telesales. No scripts, no hard reset, no task killer; NOTHING. Said "my phone gets hot and reboots" and they said (last Thurs), let's get you a replacement overnight so you can try the new one out of the weekend. No muss, no fuss. Got here 10:30AM the next day, and my evil super-heating 4-to-13-reboot-try prone phone is going back.
sprintrjm said:
i have gone through 4 incredibles.
they all exhibited the same rebooting issues... completely stock with NO installed apps.
I have also tested the phones with 2 different batteries and with different sd cards and no sd cards installed.
I had done factory resets.
I get a ****ty cell connection where i live, -100 to -96 db.
Its looking more like a tower issue..
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I don't believe towers/signal would have any effect on shutting down or booting. Basically once you're on a current PRL, you really shouldn't even have to update it. Unless you're having that poor service deal where an Alltell/Vzw hybrid would benefit you.
I love nearly everything about my Verizon G'Nex, except for the fact that it sucks as a telephone. Voice quality is mediocre, at best, when the phone actually works. Meanwhile, my mic will typically mute itself in mid-conversation leading to "can you hear me?" and "you're hard to hear!" exchanges.
I have tried multiple ROM's and Radio's, including the latest stable CM and the latest stable AOKP. Each flash was clean, as I don't like taking chances with a dirty flash.
I have tried the app "SoundAbout," and the Wired Headset Detection setting is on "IGNORE Plug In/Out Detection (helps if phone is sending invalid plug in/out signals that shut off the speaker/mic)."
I have searched high and low on messageboards (XDA, Androidforums, etc.) to find a solution with no success. It seems that the problem either disappeared for most people and/or people have moved onto other phones. Literally, most threads and posts are from late 2011/early2012.
Issue happens whether I am home, away at work, or in a random parking lot somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, I don't think it is location-related, but rather, is hardware related.
I have 4G turned off.
Does ANYONE know if a fix exists?
On another related note, I am considering picking up a used SGIII from Swappa. I have to go the Used route since I want to keep my Unlimited Data Plan for as long as humanly possible. Does the SGIII have the same mic mute issues? Are there any other poweruser used phones that I should consider?
Comp625 said:
I love nearly everything about my Verizon G'Nex, except for the fact that it sucks as a telephone. Voice quality is mediocre, at best, when the phone actually works. Meanwhile, my mic will typically mute itself in mid-conversation leading to "can you hear me?" and "you're hard to hear!" exchanges.
I have tried multiple ROM's and Radio's, including the latest stable CM and the latest stable AOKP. Each flash was clean, as I don't like taking chances with a dirty flash.
I have tried the app "SoundAbout," and the Wired Headset Detection setting is on "IGNORE Plug In/Out Detection (helps if phone is sending invalid plug in/out signals that shut off the speaker/mic)."
I have searched high and low on messageboards (XDA, Androidforums, etc.) to find a solution with no success. It seems that the problem either disappeared for most people and/or people have moved onto other phones. Literally, most threads and posts are from late 2011/early2012.
Issue happens whether I am home, away at work, or in a random parking lot somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, I don't think it is location-related, but rather, is hardware related.
I have 4G turned off.
Does ANYONE know if a fix exists?
On another related note, I am considering picking up a used SGIII from Swappa. I have to go the Used route since I want to keep my Unlimited Data Plan for as long as humanly possible. Does the SGIII have the same mic mute issues? Are there any other poweruser used phones that I should consider?
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No one, eh?
I had the problem when my Nexus was on 4.0. When I was updated to 4.2 (stock) the problem went away.
I'm assuming it had more to do with the radio updates then then ROM update.
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I'm on the latest CM which is 4.2.2, and it uses the latest radios, too.
The only other thing I can think of is that my headphone jack might be triggered due to tiny pieces of lint. However, the "SoundAbout" app should be ignoring the jack to begin with.
(Trust me, I'd rather keep the G'Nex rather than spending $300-$400 on a used SGS3, but that seems like the only option considering I can't hold phone conversations anymore).
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I'm having to struggle to find which phone has working volte with lineage. Each model has to be looked up individually and the rom thread found. Sometimes they don't even say. Considering the cutoff on all major US carriers it would be really nice to have a list. Let's start one.
What phone do you have running with lineage where your phone recieves and places calls over VOLTE.
This is going to be a critically important question over the course of the next year; it could mean the end of custom and Linux based ROMs on smartphones if it isn't addressed.
Hello,
I´ve looked at the search, but couldnt really find anything, so before I brick it, Im sorry to disturb you guys.
Storytime:
Im from germany, had a note 10+ (975F) since july last year, was very happy with it and had its settings tailored to my liking.
that one broke, fell down, display 50% dead, touch impaired, the likes. fortunately enough i have an insurance for it, and they sent me a new one yesterday,
Was very happy, didnt think anything bad up until i tried to set it up like the old one.
Cause that one registers in the info screen as N975F/DS, which is apparently the international dual sim version.
and the software is just bloody atrocious.
my google news feed has been replaced with the worst samsung **** (samsung free) with no optiuon to turn it back, all the text is so fricking small, and even after scaling it up, all the apps just do what they want, some way too big, some way too small. in short- for me it is simply not workable, but an expensive paperweight at that point.
So long story short, can I just take the EU N975F Firmware and flash it to an N975F/DS version or will I brick it with that? if that doesent work, can i get said functionality back with a different build? if not will N975 ROMs like Lineage work on a N975F/DS or will that brick it too?
Help greatly appreciated, its been quite some time since i last flashed android phones, back in that day CyanogenMod was the hot **** xD
I have N975/DS, but I don't recognise your complaints. Is your N975/DS updated to latest official FW?
The firmware for N975 and N975/DS is one and the same. No need to flash...
Do not know what the version on your former N975 was (updated to the last or did you skip regular FW updates?) but be aware you cannot flash earlier firmware with lower BL-version than the current on your phone.
the last phone was updated to the latest update samsung gave me, didnt check at the time what that was, but the new one has vastly different software
Check out your CSC and flash the one according to your needs.
Software is the same for both models, so the difference may be on the region or the carrier of your firmware