What are the benefits of rooting this device? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers

as i backup everything (WebView Bug) i started to think about rooting my device.
What are the benefits? Back in the days, rooting was necessary for me.
but since i own a note10+ i dont really miss anything.
is there any reason to root and install a cfw?

BlechBoX said:
as i backup everything (WebView Bug) i started to think about rooting my device.
What are the benefits? Back in the days, rooting was necessary for me.
but since i own a note10+ i dont really miss anything.
is there any reason to root and install a cfw?
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(sorry for my bad English, I'm using an online translator)
To be frank with any modern Android cell phone I don't see any real benefit to rooting a phone, I even dare to say that it generates the opposite.
Root access in Android/Linux is similar to administrator access in Windows UAC. Which means that you are gaining access to higher levels within the system and this means that in the same way that you have access, any app can have it (you can grant it) and this includes good apps as well as malware apps.
Root has benefits when it comes to modifying the system... But do you really need to modify your system or change it completely?
And this approach comes from the fact that most users use their phone for recreational purposes (chat, play a game, watch a movie, etc). That is, they have no reason to need more than what most OEM configs offer. Even many OEMs have security systems (like Knox) that are compromised by getting root access to your terminal.
Of course, this excludes developers, who have to root it for technical reasons, or simply users who want to try new things (new GSIs, kernels, etc.) Or even who want to learn more about how Android works. But unless you have these intentions, rooting it is unnecessary and exposes your phone to risks.

I don't see too many advantages to rooting it... just -don't- upgrade to Q!!!
I'm using PD MDM package disabler and Karma Firewall to lock mine down as well as to control it. For me the current configuration provides a fast, stable, predictable platform that fullfills its mission role completely... and I like the way it looks/runs.
Even though I'm running Pie and surf a lot I never had to do a forced reload due to a virus, malware, etc; it's fairly secure. Side loading introduces the opportunity for rootkits and other crap. Flashing poorly vetted firmware is an invitation for disaster... of all kinds.
No worries about bricking it or investing lots of time for rooting or the reconfiguration that would be necessary. I already spent the time needed to optimize my stock 10+; rooting would require many more hours with only a slight performance return. Rooting would also be detrimental in a number of ways that could easily cost more than just time... I'm still covered by the carrier insurance.
For me factory resets now, when needed, are fairly quick with no data loss. Rooting could help a little but not much but could also end up costing much more reload time then it takes me now.
I use the SD card as a data drive then back that up at least 3X. I can do a full restore with little or no internet connection and no PC in about 2 hours as long as the SD card data is intact.

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[Q] rooting my htc incredible

I own an HTC INCREDIBLE and I've been told to "root" my phone to get rid of all the bloatware. What is rooting and how do I do it? A lot of my apps and all of my music and all photos are saved to my mem card. There are some HTC apps I would actually like to keep. Also, is there anyway I could get swipe on my phone?
Yep - you can root your phone to get rid of bloatware and allow you to do all sorts of other things, basically, rooting the phone allows you to be the administrator of your phone, whereas now you just have a user account on it ... As for how to root, that's been done a lot of different ways and is explained in a number of places - you should read several how-tos so you'll have an idea of what you're getting yourself into (and whether you want to bother)... The contents of your memory card should be safe, but you should back them up anyway, since memory cards do fail during normal use. Simply rooting won't automatically remove any of your apps, so your good there, but it will give you the ability to remove apps, or even break (or even "brick") your phone, so take it easy and don't take any steps 'till you understand what you're about to do.
Here are some resources you can check out :
Ok, actually I'm not allowed to be helpful by posting links since I'm a new member, but google these terms: root droid incredible Jonamerica - that'll get you started...
As for swype the legit way to get it is to sign up for their beta (it's available on their website which I can't link you to) and go from there.
Thanks so much. I'll check it out!
Just a few newbie tips for you.
I'm new to all of this also.....rooting and flashing.
1. Read a lot before you do anything. Its not hard but readup first!
2. Be patient......2 or 3 times while I have rooted or flashed I have thought that maybe my phone is dead. Sometimes there is no visible indication that the phone is actually doing what you want it to do. Let it sit there and do its thing. DO NOT PANIC and pull the battery!
3. Backup backup backup backup BACKUP!
Have fun.....I am
wildland said:
Yep - you can root your phone to get rid of bloatware and allow you to do all sorts of other things, basically, rooting the phone allows you to be the administrator of your phone, whereas now you just have a user account on it ... As for how to root, that's been done a lot of different ways and is explained in a number of places - you should read several how-tos so you'll have an idea of what you're getting yourself into (and whether you want to bother)... The contents of your memory card should be safe, but you should back them up anyway, since memory cards do fail during normal use. Simply rooting won't automatically remove any of your apps, so your good there, but it will give you the ability to remove apps, or even break (or even "brick") your phone, so take it easy and don't take any steps 'till you understand what you're about to do.
Here are some resources you can check out :
Ok, actually I'm not allowed to be helpful by posting links since I'm a new member, but google these terms: root droid incredible Jonamerica - that'll get you started...
As for swype the legit way to get it is to sign up for their beta (it's available on their website which I can't link you to) and go from there.
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Thank you for this search link. Guide is very helpful, fills in alot of the blanks I've been having.
You're welcome.
There are numerous other guides and threads out there, so googling and reading is a good idea... I just researched it again since I rooted my wife's Inc. last night and since it has an SLCD screen I wanted to make sure that unrevoked had been updated to work with these screens - turns out it has and it worked fine. I actually had a scary moment when the phone wouldn't boot into recovery (five vibrations and a blank screen) but a google search and a battery pull saved me and so far so good since then - and I was able to uninstall verizon's backup assistant which was killing her battery every day.
Is that the only reason you rooted your wife's phone, was to remove some of the bloat? I might end up doing the same.
ramma2 said:
Is that the only reason you rooted your wife's phone, was to remove some of the bloat? I might end up doing the same.
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Yeah, that was the main reason - when she upgraded from her dumbphone, we used Backup Assistant to transfer her numbers over, but lately it's been hanging during sync and killing her battery (and/or it may be syncing over the poor 1x data connection rather than available wifi - not sure about that but it sounds like something Verizon would do (it would both be a bit more secure, and use more data they could bill us for)). Since Verizon in all their wisdom made it so you can't uninstall that app or disassociate it from your account, I figured the I'd use force and just root the phone - worked too, now her battery's lasting all day, no problem.
I also would recommend rooting to anyone concerned about certain apps wanting internet permissions - DroidWall is a great app allowing you to prevent apps from accessing the internet (or you can block just wifi or just 3g for a specific app, potentially allowing you to better manage your data usage).
make sure to read alot about what ur getting into.. And remember to always backup before you do anything (incase of errors/problems) you can always boot back to stock...happy rootin!
Check this out: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones.
That guide is specific to Cyanogenmod, and it's a little outdated, but it's a good starting point to learn what applications are required for the phone to run, and which applications are simply "extra."

[Q] Any chance a one-click-root solution will come soon that doesn't wipe memory?

Good evening all!
Question I have is simply when does everyone suspect a single-click Root might come along that doesn't wipe the phone's memory? I've already had to reset my phone once (because of Verizon) and hoping to not have to do it again for awhile (restoring 12k SMS takes awhile). I know many phones in the past have eventually gotten a one-click method that doesn't wipe the phone and wondering how feasible it is that we'll see one here in a short amount of time.
Thanks in advance, all! Keep up the good work.
Rooting doesn't wipe the device, the problem is that you have to unlock the device first, which will.
champers said:
Rooting doesn't wipe the device, the problem is that you have to unlock the device first, which will.
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Can I ask why? Many devices have had single-click roots that retained locked bootloaders. A reference would be my Atrix 4G. Motorola locked the bootloader fairly hard and I never unlocked mine, but I still managed to root the device using Z4Root, without a whipe. I downloaded the app, opened it, and clicked the "Root" button. I restarted the phone and the phone was rooted with SuperUser and BusyBox installed.
hotleadsingerguy said:
Can I ask why? Many devices have had single-click roots that retained locked bootloaders. A reference would be my Atrix 4G. Motorola locked the bootloader fairly hard and I never unlocked mine, but I still managed to root the device using Z4Root, without a whipe. I downloaded the app, opened it, and clicked the "Root" button. I restarted the phone and the phone was rooted with SuperUser and BusyBox installed.
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Those are usually hacks that take advantage of security flaws found in the OS or other software... the same way that malware authors find holes in Windows and write software to take advantage of it to exploit your computer. The bugs that allow you to root without unlocking are the same kind of bugs that has given Microsoft a bad reputation for security over the years, and naturally Google doesn't want security flaws in Android so they try to minimize them and fix any that are found.
A hole might be found in ICS eventually.
phazerorg said:
Those are usually hacks that take advantage of security flaws found in the OS or other software... the same way that malware authors find holes in Windows and write software to take advantage of it to exploit your computer. The bugs that allow you to root without unlocking are the same kind of bugs that has given Microsoft a bad reputation for security over the years, and naturally Google doesn't want security flaws in Android so they try to minimize them and fix any that are found.
A hole might be found in ICS eventually.
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I wasn't really asking about the ethical use of such things...just whether anyone could see it being feasibly possible in the near future. Then again, if anyone knows of a way to restore 12k SMS in 5 minutes I'm open to unlocking/rooting the old-fashioned way.
By the way, even the way unlocking/rooting is accomplished now is considered a "hack". Using ADB to unlock/root the phone isn't the way it's meant to be used. ADB stands for Android Debugging Bridge...it's meant to debug, not crack open the bootloader.
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I wasn't really asking about the ethical use of such things...just whether anyone could see it being feasibly possible in the near future. Then again, if anyone knows of a way to restore 12k SMS in 5 minutes I'm open to unlocking/rooting the old-fashioned way.
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Sorry about that, I didn't mean to imply any ethics here. I was just trying to answer the question about why there isn't a one-click root. I may have misinterpreted your "why?" question.
I don't see that happening any time soon. It's so effortless to unlock the bootloader that why would anyone waste their time trying to find a workaround.
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I don't see that happening any time soon. It's so effortless to unlock the bootloader that why would anyone waste their time trying to find a workaround.
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I wouldn't call re-configuring everything effortless lol I'd rather spend 45 minutes unlocking and rooting than spend 5 minutes doing it and another hour getting it set up...again. Restoring all of your stuff can be a pain if you don't have it empty. It downloads the apps but it doesn't set them up.
Have you tried restoring a massive number of text messages? I had to delete half of mine simply because it took well over an hour and a half to restore the first time and I had to reset the phone anyway. It's extremely time-consuming to have to clear out the phone. I'd say it was a strong 2 1/2 or 3 hours from start to finish yesterday to do it (and yes, there was a reason I couldn't unlock+root at the same time).

Little Help Please

Okay so very new obviously. Just rooted my gs3 sgh-t999 with help to an amazing guide by chainfire seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963806 extremely easy and as stated did it in about 30 seconds. now that this is done I may just be very new but i don't see a difference in admin access or to my phone.. i did see the red android and know i did it correctly but maybe i dont know what I should do now that it is rooted. can someone help me with what i should do now that its rooted, certain apps i need to get or things i need to do. Im sure you all hate these newbie posts but i really appreciate the help. thanks.
just curious, why did you root if you have no clue what to do with it?
look in the app drawer for SuperUser or SuperSU, you can go in the play store and search Root or SuperUser and look for apps that you might want, you can get apps to freeze or remove completely from your /system you can flash a custom recovery granting you permission to flash custom roms which can lead to severe Crack Flashing, or help find a rom that is completely perfect for you and the best thing you can ever imagine (phone wise)... read some more is what I'm saying.
Get root explorer, delete bloat. Or titanium backup to delete/freeze/backup.
mt3g said:
just curious, why did you root if you have no clue what to do with it?
look in the app drawer for SuperUser or SuperSU, you can go in the play store and search Root or SuperUser and look for apps that you might want, you can get apps to freeze or remove completely from your /system you can flash a custom recovery granting you permission to flash custom roms which can lead to severe Crack Flashing, or help find a rom that is completely perfect for you and the best thing you can ever imagine (phone wise)... read some more is what I'm saying.
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i got it because i want to bypass the stupid tmobile hotspot block on my unlimited 4g plan. also saw posts about being able to extend battery life. .. just wanted to know if there were some other really cool things i should be doing? also now that i am rooted should i never do a system update?
also i like being able to delete the stupid apps that tmobile forces you to have on your phone... tmobile tv and stuff like that
you know how easy is to re-root, I'm not even positive how that all works cause I've only been on a stock rom for a few months with the the G1 lol. I'm pretty sure you can still update it'll just wipe your root, SU. Honestly flash a custom stock Touchwiz rom that is debloated and has some tweaks, like tethering option.
Or if you don't want to get into flashing which may destroy your phone just use titanium backup to freeze or delete bloat. Then maybe you can get a battery voltage control app for your battery.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
well not sure if you exactly know what "rooting" really means.
think of rooting as "unlocking". when you buy a phone from anywhere (let's just take the SGH-T999 for example), the phone isn't actually yours yet. not entirely. sure you paid the money for it, sure it's in your possession, so to most, the phone is yours. but the phone is still locked to, for example, T-Mobile, you can't use it on any other carrier. and the phone is also locked to Samsung, like say, the bootloader. think of it this way: on computers, YOU, or someone else is the administrator of it: you choose what happens to the computer. in this case, Samsung/T-Mobile is the administrator of your device, you are just the user. i guess the iPhone would be a better example. we all know how locked down that is. think of your Android phone that way, locked down by both the Carrier and the Company. now when you root the device, you are doing much more than just "jailbreaking" like on the iPhone. by rooting, you are allowing yourself full administrator access to everything on your device. the Carrier and the Company now have no way to stop you from doing what you want to do with your device (well...there's the warranty stuff i guess...). but point is, with root, you have full power and full access to yours, it is now your phone. completely.
but with such power, also comes responsibility and danger. you need to realize that everything you do after obtaining root, has the possibility of you ending up with a bricked (dead) device. that is why i don't suggest "noobies" play around with root. it is very dangerous and very serious. you must know what you are doing.
i suggest you read as much as you can about rooting and such, rooting and hacking can be fun (trust me), but it can also lead to great consequences as well.
good luck.
saranhai said:
well not sure if you exactly know what "rooting" really means.
think of rooting as "unlocking". when you buy a phone from anywhere (let's just take the SGH-T999 for example), the phone isn't actually yours yet. not entirely. sure you paid the money for it, sure it's in your possession, so to most, the phone is yours. but the phone is still locked to, for example, T-Mobile, you can't use it on any other carrier. and the phone is also locked to Samsung, like say, the bootloader. think of it this way: on computers, YOU, or someone else is the administrator of it: you choose what happens to the computer. in this case, Samsung/T-Mobile is the administrator of your device, you are just the user. i guess the iPhone would be a better example. we all know how locked down that is. think of your Android phone that way, locked down by both the Carrier and the Company. now when you root the device, you are doing much more than just "jailbreaking" like on the iPhone. by rooting, you are allowing yourself full administrator access to everything on your device. the Carrier and the Company now have no way to stop you from doing what you want to do with your device (well...there's the warranty stuff i guess...). but point is, with root, you have full power and full access to yours, it is now your phone. completely.
but with such power, also comes responsibility and danger. you need to realize that everything you do after obtaining root, has the possibility of you ending up with a bricked (dead) device. that is why i don't suggest "noobies" play around with root. it is very dangerous and very serious. you must know what you are doing.
i suggest you read as much as you can about rooting and such, rooting and hacking can be fun (trust me), but it can also lead to great consequences as well.
good luck.
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thanks... i guess its too late for me to go back now lol i dont plan on doing anything too crazy, just delete some bloat , back up and hopefully try and bypass this wifi hotspot block tmobile has put on my unlimited 4g. which i still havent been able to figure out... UA spoofers dont seem to work but for some reason when i connect USB the tether does work fine as or now, just not the wifi hotspot which i need for PS3 and Ipad

[Q] Non-rooted S3 questions

So I feel like I know my way around rooting and putting custom roms on android devices. I've done it multiple times and love the features doing those two bring to your device. I recently received a GS3 from my employer and this will be my main device for work and personal use. But the company I work for has an application that is installed on every phone with company information on it so that the app can do things like wipe the device remotely if the phone is lost/stolen for obvious security reasons. But this application also restricts side loading apks and root users on the devices as well.
The application is Maas360:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fiberlink.maas360.android.control.samsung&hl=en
I actually work with the helpdesk of the company, and we have what Maas360 calls 'security policies' that include the settings restrictions for each of the devices with android or iOS... some of the restrictions set in place are like I said with not be able to side load apks, no root users, must have a screen lock with pattern or pin (depending of which security policy is applied), along with other little things.
1.) Is there a way to get the Samsung bloatware off the device by flashing a Stock, non-root custom rom?
2.) Is possible to side load apps with Maas360 installed? The usual setting of 'Allow the installation of non-Google market apps' is grayed out and unchangeable currently...
If there are any other suggestions, those would be great as well. I just want my device to have the flexibility and openness of what a true Android device should have. Thanks
Typically employers put software like that not just for security measures of lost or stolen, but also to prevent their employees from doing exactly what you are wanting to do. As such, you are essentially asking people here to potentially help break your company's policy and bypass security measures they have installed. As far as I am concerned, you are on your own.
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Minimal work required to get back my bluetooth tethering? XT1635-02 OTA Nougat

I have determined that I at least will need to unlock my bootloader which I am already loathing since that means everything on my phone will get reset. We also don't even have signed firmware for this device. I don't care about root, but I also don't use any of this pay nonsense. I do play a certain game that will moan about my phone being modified though. I was already looking at the nougat thread regarding root and passing everything but I'm not interested in magisk and the headache that comes with having to deal with safetynet updates.
Far as I understand:
1. Get TWRP, can I get away with just booting it and not actually flashing?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-unofficial-twrp-moto-z-play-t3495629
2. I guess tomparr's zimage kernel zip found here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767134479 is required since the system is going to be changed for what I want to do
3. Steps somewhere a long the lines of this http://www.theandroidsoul.com/enable-tethering-nougat-alongside-android-pay/
a. Add the net.tethering.noprovisioning=true line
b. Open Terminal emulator on your device and issue the following commands one-by-one:​su
settings put global tether_dun_required 0
exit​
If I am understanding anything wrong or anyone wants to point me at anything else to read that would be great.
[rant] What an annoying experience this has been, before a few hours ago I praised motorola(lenovo) for what an amazing phone this was, that is until I got that ridiculous update pushed to my phone. Yes, it is definitely snappier and more responsive, but I'm not giving up functionality because the developer of the dammed OS caved into pressure from carriers. I bought an unlocked phone an no carrier has any right to restrict any of my phones features just because they think they can. I work in an office where login into the wif is a thing and I will have multiple devices with me sometimes, so I used to just bluetooth tether the other devices from my main phone and not have to deal with mutliple logins, there are also times when out and about where my gf's signal isn't great and she will use my data to be able to keep using her phone. DAMMIT THIS IS FRUSTRATING.... [/rant]

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