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Hello
i just got my desire and i have some questions regarding bluetooth use.
maybe im just not finding the right menus but im a little bit stuck
so first the setup and what i have done: i have a bluetooth gps receiver and im trying to connect it to my desire.
i searched, then paired
and after that i get paired but not connected.
a) so how do i connect ? tapping on it didnt do anything and holding got me a menu to unpair the device
b) after i connect how do i create a serial port ? as i understand serial port profile should be usable on android
c) is there a way to autoconnect ?
d) are there any special menus for bluetooth other than the settings menu ?
i'm coming from winmo and im a little bit stuck here
and related to that, is there even a navigation software that can make use of a bluetooth gps receiver ? it seems at least navigon has no option to change the source
thanks in advance
I've not tried with a gps receiver, but I have to ask, why? Is the built in gps no good?
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and related to that, is there even a navigation software that can make use of a bluetooth gps receiver ? it seems at least navigon has no option to change the source
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The currently available navigation software all use the Android system location services to get GPS information, and therefore do not have an option to connect to an external GPS unit.
I'm sure it a navigation solution developer could code their app to use external GPS if they so choose, as the APIs are there, but given that most Android devices have built in GPS they probably can't be bothered as it probably has limited appeal (though I do understand why some people might want it).
Regards,
Dave
hmm ok that answers some of my questions. thanks
what about the adding and connecting questions ?
Anyone know anything about this stereo -
http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bluetooth-hands-free-car-kits/parrot-asteroid
Even, where it can be bought, how much it is? What OS it runs for that matter?
well it says that it has Android embedded, so the OS is Android
it looks pretty interesting too...
as for when/where/how much, the site says "Coming soon in 2011", so I'm guessing that it is yet-to-be-offered and they may not have decided their MSRP yet.
William
First, I don't know if I can post links yet. Second, I'm too lazy to dig it up. They had an article on Androidpolice during CES that included a speaker from Parrot showcasing it. I think he said a Q2 release. I'll be getting this the second its released, regardless of price.
anyone have any more details on this? Q2 is all they're saying...
I want one now!!
For the European markets, they say May. Hopefully the beginning of May
Hope they didn't get a developer team from Motorola, then it's going to takes at least another year
next week
i was infomrmed dynamicsounds expected to be stocked next week
wonder if its worth getting
i am currently considering getting it as i need a car kit any way
apperantly they are avalible as of today at 289 euro in the netherlands
I have one
I currently have an Asteroid sitting on my desk here
When I find some time tonight I'll take it for a testdrive and let you guys know!
Excellent. Please let us know.
What apps are available at the moment?
Im hoping for Spotify and proper navigation once the sdk is released...
Yay, someone that has the Asteroid!
Please, let us now!
And, tell us how the music player works.
I want to hook a big memory card, or if there's room a 40GB laptop harddisk to the unit.
Also, streaming from Bluetooth from your phone. Btw, what kind of phone do you have?
(And hmm.. Gorinchem.. That's not that far from my weekly commute.. )
Asteroid
Been driving around with the Asteroid for a while now and it's a pretty neat radio but not perfect.
Building it into the car was a breeze. With the radio came all the needed cables, like a 3,5mm jack, iPod cable, USB cable for usb-sticks, GPS dongle and microphone for the carkit. All cables were pretty long so you should have no problem routing them to whatever place you want them in your car.
Soundquality is pretty good and there are plenty of connections for subwoofers and external amplifiers so it should suffice even for cars with loads of fat speakers.
Connecting my phone, an HTC Desire with CyanogenMod 7.1 (nightly build), was easy through bluetooth and streaming music over bluetooth went without problems. Answering phonecalls and navigating the menu is pretty easy.
A few problems I ran into though. To use internet on the radio (for google maps, internet radio, coyote speed camera alerts) you can either use a 3g USB dongle (which costs you at least 10€ a month where I live) or tether your phone through bluetooth (maybe usb works, haven't tried yet). To do this, your phone needs to support the bluetooth DUN profile which android lacks. Nokia phones should be no problem though. I've tried using 3rd party apps like PDANet but to no avail.
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
Please note, I have only used this radio for a short while and I might've missed some things! I think this is a very nice radio though and since it is the first model and only out for a week or so now I think there will be some updates from Parrot's side, perhaps expanding the capabilities of this device. The only major drawback is the lack of internet connectivity if you have an Android phone. This is not Parrot's fault though but rather Google's. I heard though that Honeycomb supports Bluetooth PAN and I think the Asteroid supports this for Internet tethering so i'm keeping my hopes up for Android Icecream to bring this feature to my phone.
Pro:
- Lots sources for music: Radio, USB stick, SD Card, iPod, 3.5mm Jack line-in
- Android with Google Maps
- Speed camera Alerts
- Large screen (for a single DIN radio unit)
- Lots of cables came with the Radio (With a Pioneer your need to buy overpriced iPod cables separately)
- Its a handsfree carkit, and Parrot knows how to make those by now
- Lots of tweaking possible with the sound
Con:
- Internet does not work with Android phones (yet)
- Lacks certain tweaking possibilities in the settings menu
Feel free to ask any questions
Thank you for the excellent review.
Those drawbacks are major issues,
but Im hoping Parrot will come up with some patches
soon.
The Asteroid is not on sale here yet, and it might take a while.
But I am going to Holland later this month..
Anyone know a place close to Schiphol that sell Parrot equipment?
I also have the Parrot Asteroid for a few days now. But I can't get thetering trough Bluetooth working on my HTC Desire Z (Android 2.2).
I used an app called "PdaNet" or something, with that I can enalbe "Dun - Dia-up Network". And I can make a connection with the parrort trough Settings > Network > Bluetooth. But as soon as I try to use an application that uses internet, it won't work and says I need a internet connection.
Anyone know how I can use DUN or PAN, because an Asteroid doesn't have WiFi and can't tether trough USB ??
Thanx!
RobertR21,
Android does currently not support PAN or DUN so using that is probably not possible without any 3rd party software. I tried PDAnet aswell but it did not work.
You might try connecting your phone to the 3G dongle port on your asteroid through USB, as android supports USB tethering, I have not tried this myself. I can verify though that DUN works, I tried it with my Nokia and it worked flawlessly.
I hear there's rumours on the Internets though that Android icecream is going to support PAN though, so maybe then we can use our android phones. Maybe before that time Parrot will find a solution.
Does anyone know which 3g USB dongles work with the Asteroid?
In my case: I have a Trekstor/Huawei MiFi which can also be used as a "Stick" - Will this work via USB? My Asteroid Device ships in (wish me luck) tomorrow. Pimpin' my Ride is planned at Saturday ;-)
ThX
Hi, I've got the this Parrot Asteriod also.
And For you guys I can use bluetooth internet though my old HTC Hero. I can do it also with other phones. but there is a trick for it.
First root your phone, this is absolutely nessasary.
Then download from the market 'Wireless Tether for root users'(it is a free app).
This one has internet tethering through bluetooth.
Go to menu and select bluetooth instead of wifi.
then go to access-control and eneble it.
Make the bluetooth visible in the tether program.
On the asteroid go to setting and then network and then bluetooth is will find your phone(again) and press the nice parrot butten and it connects.
then on your phone again give it authorization to use the tether and you have your internet.
One problem is that you have to connect manually every time. (your carkit does it automaticly) but not the internet. But at least you can then enjoy your live radio and google maps if you want to.
You only have to have the tether active and connect only through the radio other steps are not needed anymore after.
Internet through usb with your doesn't work, to bad.
One issue that I've encountered with this radio the front panel will become pretty hot after playing an half hour on a high volume. does anyone else have this problem also?
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available?
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market?
- What Android version is installed?
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?)
Greetings
karlv
Dysphoria said:
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
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For disablieng the traffic information go to tuner, select a radio station then press the menu button there you can edit if you want traffic information on or of.
text to speech, try the menu button in the app contacts you can change it there. I like that so I didn't look at it yet.
The most options regarding a app can be found in the app it self. try to look for tweaking option there.
karlv said:
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available? NO, not yet at least
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market? Special Parrot market, apps that are avaible can be found on the parrot site then put on usb stick and then install.
- What Android version is installed? Android 1.5
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?) No, maybe also later.
Greetings
karlv
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Everyone can correct me if I'm wrong
anyone already tried getting in touch with the radios file system?
I assume those usb ports only are usb hosts?
there's a new firmware out:
http://download.parrot.com/Parrot_Asteroid_soft_update/asteroid_update_fr_FR.plf
It's nearly 90 MB, so it looks as a complete android software build.
can we get this extracted? modders, come on
EDIT:
there exist some plftools for other Parrot Devices. Maybe they can be used to extract useful stuff out of the Asteroid firmware files...
Links:
http://embedded-software.blogspot.c...howComment=1311293537224#c8852365956008835373
http://sites.google.com/site/repurposelinux/df3120
EDIT2:
part of the firmware update file:
parrotparts=nand0:256K(Pbootloader),16M(Pmain_boot),4M(Pfactory),241408K(Psystem) console=ttyPA0,115200 loglevel=8 update
maybe it is possible to divide the plf file into parts and mount them somehow? (http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=478.0)
EDIT3:
Serial output of AR Drone Update, wich also uses plf update files and is based on linux:
http://kapejod.org/download/ardrone_install.txt
I have a new Fire Phone running the stock Fire OS 4.6.1, rooted and with Google Play Store Installed.
My vehicle is a 2007 Chrysler Town & Country with the UConnect feature built in. I have successfully paired my phone already.
The main issue is that I have to manually connect every time I get in the car. After I leave the car or the car is turned off, it disconnects as expected, just never reconnects automatically.
I just switched over from an iPhone 4 and this is a major inconvenience. WIth the iPhone it just worked. If I was on a call and got in the car, it would automatically switch over to bluetooth UConnect and come over the cars audio system.
Is there anyway to make this work properly? I have seen a couple apps in the Play Store that seem to state they can fix this, but I am a little weary of them. Like Bluetooth Auto Connect
Does anyone have any experience with this app or have any other general advice on this? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I did also check this thread with no real luck http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312576
drewb0y said:
I have a new Fire Phone running the stock Fire OS 4.6.1, rooted and with Google Play Store Installed.
My vehicle is a 2007 Chrysler Town & Country with the UConnect feature built in. I have successfully paired my phone already.
The main issue is that I have to manually connect every time I get in the car. After I leave the car or the car is turned off, it disconnects as expected, just never reconnects automatically.
I just switched over from an iPhone 4 and this is a major inconvenience. WIth the iPhone it just worked. If I was on a call and got in the car, it would automatically switch over to bluetooth UConnect and come over the cars audio system.
Is there anyway to make this work properly? I have seen a couple apps in the Play Store that seem to state they can fix this, but I am a little weary of them. Like Bluetooth Auto Connect
Does anyone have any experience with this app or have any other general advice on this? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I did also check this thread with no real luck http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312576
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Does your car have multiple ways to connect a device to the car's stereo via Bluetooth? According to this post, using the steering wheel/voice commands makes a difference versus using the stereo's dials. Another post mentioning the same issue and fix for other phones and cars: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6760095
So i deiced to get the 10" Joying rx3188 unit with android 5.1.1 that recently came on the market. So far I rooted it and got it set mostly how i want, but I discovered an issue with bluetooth. Basic phone pairing and functionality works properly and ive also paired my OBD2link MX unit with it as well for the torque app, which works fine as well. the issue i'm having is that other apps that would use bluetooth, think that bluetooth is disabled on the unit. when i try to have them use bluetooth, they ask if they can turn bluetooth on. Selecting yes hangs the app and i have to force end the app to stop it. Even if i go in to torque, it reads bluetooth as disabled even tough the app itself works fine otherwise.
It seems as if the OS is not properly flagging to apps that bluetooth is turned on as far as i can tell. Is there a workaround for this, or something i can do to signal to apps installed that bluetooth is indeed enabled on the HU?
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ive also paired my OBD2link MX unit with it as well for the torque app, which works fine as well.
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Even if i go in to torque, it reads bluetooth as disabled even tough the app itself works fine otherwise.
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Sorry i don't understand, Torque is working for you or not?
But, what's the "bluetooth name" of your device? Because to work properly i think it must be "OBD" or "OBD2", otherwise you have to search an Xposed module that can help you.
I'm having the exact same problem with the same unit also on Lollipop. I've notified the developer in the Forum post below and he is looking into it. This now makes a total of 3 people with the same problem.
http://forum.carjoying.com/thread-52.html
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the issue i'm having is that other apps that would use bluetooth
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what apps are you having problems with?
also, what car did you put it in? How does it look? 10 inch screen sounds awesome
I'm having two problems right now. The first is that I am unable to pair my Logitech k810 keyboard, and I am unable to connect to a Bluetooth dongle that is used by my radar detector / laser Jammer with an application called Alp connect. I've found quite a few bugs with this head unit and I'm reporting them all to the developer. It works okay my main concern is that it is quite sluggish and I think that is due to the one gigabyte of RAM and lollipop. I installed it in a 2011 Subaru Impreza
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The first is that I am unable to pair my Logitech k810 keyboarda
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I'm fully on board with the concept "your money your car, do what you want" but what do you use a keyboard for in the car?
Quite often I'm too lazy to unpack my laptop when I have to compose a lengthy email on the go so I prefer to do it with a keyboard rather than try to use the touch screen to bash out a couple paragraphs.
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Sorry i don't understand, Torque is working for you or not?
But, what's the "bluetooth name" of your device? Because to work properly i think it must be "OBD" or "OBD2", otherwise you have to search an Xposed module that can help you.
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Torque is working, but if you go to adapter status in torque i shows BT not enabled. And thats the issue, the BT status is off when apps check it. For torque, it does not try to turn on BT to function. other apps do, and when they do, they hang.
I need to somehow flag BT as on for other apps so they dont say they need to turn on BT to work.
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what apps are you having problems with?
also, what car did you put it in? How does it look? 10 inch screen sounds awesome
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apps like tablet talk, or obdlink or solostorm. all think BT is off, and try to turn it on when you want to use the BT obd2 adapter.
its in a Mazda MX-5.
sterod said:
Quite often I'm too lazy to unpack my laptop when I have to compose a lengthy email on the go so I prefer to do it with a keyboard rather than try to use the touch screen to bash out a couple paragraphs.
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If your objective is to solve the problem get a usb keyboard. They work. If your objective is to get bluetooth keyboards working you might have to wait a long time.
Well, I hope you are wrong as my previous NewsMy NU3001 head unit worked perfectly with it. I'm aware I can use a USB keyboard. In any case I'm happy the developer is willing to try and fix it. What is your source for claiming it will be a long time for it to be fixed?
Also to add to this, im also unable to pair my qstarx 10hz BT gps unit.
It may be helpful to post your Bluetooth concerns in the same thread as mine on the Joying Forum I linked to above so that the developer is aware it's not just me and may encourage him to work on this more quickly.
Just popped my head in over there. I was hoping that peeps here would know of a trick or flag for the OS to make all apps think BT is on. then they could get past the check and just access BT, kinda like what the torque app does.
Yeah if someone finds a way to do that I'd be interested to know how as well. Slightly off-topic did you try installing a custom recovery or the Xposed framework on this unit? I have tried and failed many different types of attempts to do it on this unit.
sterod said:
Well, I hope you are wrong as my previous NewsMy NU3001 head unit worked perfectly with it. I'm aware I can use a USB keyboard. In any case I'm happy the developer is willing to try and fix it. What is your source for claiming it will be a long time for it to be fixed?
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My source? Joying didn't write the software.
And what relevance does that have to the speed at which the issue can be resolved? It seems that you are just being defeating for no purpose. The developer is willing to help and he has expressed that desire in many Communications I've had with him so far. I prefer to be optimistic and that he has the right people to contact to resolve the issue
sterod said:
Yeah if someone finds a way to do that I'd be interested to know how as well. Slightly off-topic did you try installing a custom recovery or the Xposed framework on this unit? I have tried and failed many different types of attempts to do it on this unit.
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no. i just have it rooted so far with supersu installed. what feature in xposed could be used to help here?
None that I can think of I was just curious if you had been able to install Xposed. I am curious as to how you were able to install SuperSU, as I was only able to install King root.
sterod said:
And what relevance does that have to the speed at which the issue can be resolved? It seems that you are just being defeating for no purpose. The developer is willing to help and he has expressed that desire in many Communications I've had with him so far. I prefer to be optimistic and that he has the right people to contact to resolve the issue
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Generic_Android_Head_Unit/MCU_Explained
I am new to Poco. This is my second post. I have got Poco F3 5G, MIUI 12.5.1.
My car is Kia Stonic and it is approximately 3.5 years old.
By Bluetooth, I paired my Poco with my car without any problem. It even downloaded my contacts too.
But it just WILL NOT connect to my car when I turn the engine on.
So far I reset my car Bluetooth system, unpaired then re-paired on my telephone. It still will not connect to the car.
My old Moto G7 plus connects absolutely fine.
Hopefully you guys might have few suggestions.
Thank you.
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I am new to Poco. This is my second post. I have got Poco F3 5G, MIUI 12.5.1.
My car is Kia Stonic and it is approximately 3.5 years old.
By Bluetooth, I paired my Poco with my car without any problem. It even downloaded my contacts too.
But it just WILL NOT connect to my car when I turn the engine on.
So far I reset my car Bluetooth system, unpaired then re-paired on my telephone. It still will not connect to the car.
My old Moto G7 plus connects absolutely fine.
Hopefully you guys might have few suggestions.
Thank you.
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have you tried searching in settings for android auto, then tinkering with those settings?
oh, i was assuming you have an android auto enabled car... do you?
Failing that, not ideal, but you could try an auto connect app...
see here
Hello reg66, before answer you, I wanted to wait until the software update of my car done.
Unfortunately it didn't help.
The only way my POCO F3 5G connects to the car by USB cable via Android Auto. I suppose it is OK to connect by cable but every short journey I make I have to use this cable....very inconvenient.
It will be connected to my car even if I take the cable out until I turn the engine off.
As you have suggested I have tinkered with the settings of Android Auto but my efforts were to no avail.
On the other hand my old phone Moto G7 plus connects to the car as soon as I turn the engine on....Via Bluetooth.
So I suppose the culprit is my new phone.....Thank you.
ErgG said:
Hello reg66, before answer you, I wanted to wait until the software update of my car done.
Unfortunately it didn't help.
The only way my POCO F3 5G connects to the car by USB cable via Android Auto. I suppose it is OK to connect by cable but every short journey I make I have to use this cable....very inconvenient.
It will be connected to my car even if I take the cable out until I turn the engine off.
As you have suggested I have tinkered with the settings of Android Auto but my efforts were to no avail.
On the other hand my old phone Moto G7 plus connects to the car as soon as I turn the engine on....Via Bluetooth.
So I suppose the culprit is my new phone.....Thank you.
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What about using one of those auto connect apps I linked to.... So that when you're car is detected it auto connects and launches android auto...
Ohh yes, you have just reminded me....Any particular one you may like to recommend?
i have a sonata 2018 and i had the same problem when i tried to connect my tablet Huawei tab 10.1
any way i had to go inside the care screen setting and just randomly clicked something in my Bluetooth setting and it worked
in the link you will a way get inside the car setting and look for Bluetooth stuff
sorry for my bad english i hope i helped you
for just auto connect (let us know if your android auto launches successfully when connected) this one looks to have good reviews....
but i had a thought.... have you reached the maximum allowed registered devices in your Kia? Try deleting one/some of the connected devices in your Kia's bluetooth settings, that may then allow auto pairing of new devices
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for just auto connect (let us know if your android auto launches successfully when connected) this one looks to have good reviews....
but i had a thought.... have you reached the maximum allowed registered devices in your Kia? Try deleting one/some of the connected devices in your Kia's bluetooth settings, that may then allow auto pairing of new devices
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Thank you Reg. I'll have a look at that link.
I had already deleted the other devices anyway.
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i have a sonata 2018 and i had the same problem when i tried to connect my tablet Huawei tab 10.1
any way i had to go inside the care screen setting and just randomly clicked something in my Bluetooth setting and it worked
in the link you will a way get inside the car setting and look for Bluetooth stuff
sorry for my bad english i hope i helped you
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Thank you for trying to help me. Unfortunately your solution did not work in my KIa Stonic.