I'm currently on a 5G network. However I do not have the option to choose the 5G network as my preferred network. The same SIM when enter edin my Xiaomi 5G phone has the 5G option and is able to connect to a 5G network. I am using the US Unlocked Version of the Razr 5G overseas. Is there any codes, or setting, (or perhaps unlocking of the bootloader _that would allow the 5G setting to appear? //// For example when i enter my t-mobile US pre-paid sim the 5g option appears in the menu. I think there is a software element here blocking the option.
It may have to do with carrier preference wether to allow it or not. I am using the Google Fi e-sim and I watched options vanish after it was added, I can't turn off 5g, so I guess I'm stuck with that.
It's probably provisioning as a Sprint only device on Google fi with esim, you may have to get a physical SIM card to be able to use the T-Mobile network and 5G.
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It's probably provisioning as a Sprint only device on Google fi with esim, you may have to get a physical SIM card to be able to use the T-Mobile network and 5G.
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With Google fi it always defaults T-Mobile if it is not a Fi approved phone. I did find that going to *#*#4636#*#* then phone info and changing the network type would affect being on lte or 5g. Options with NR are 5g and without would be LTE or lower.
I own the european version of the Razr 5G. When I bought it a few days back (not new), it had only up to 4G available in the settings, on Android 10 (and not offering the option to update to Android 11). I tried to reinstall the software manually, which bricked it (only fastboot bootloader accessible, no system installed apparently). So I decided to unlock the bootloader (officially, so bye-bye warranty) to see if the problem could be solved this way. It didn't work better...
So I went to support.motorola.com as it was written on the screen and dowloaded the Rescue and Smart Assistant. That not only solved my brick problem, but also installed the latest Android 11 full firmware when I opted for the "Rescue" mode (about 3GB download).
All this to say that I not only have the latest Android 11 installed, but also the 5G option that appeared in the network settings now! Well, I might have lost official warranty now, but at least I learned some things doing it!
By the way, although I have the 5G preferred option set on, I still can't connect to it (what I can do with my cheap Realme 7 5G phone...) I think it is a known problem here in Europe, as a lot of "5G ready" phones have still to been granted access by the network carriers, or something like that. Well hopefully it will come with the next update.
Edit: I actually can connect to 5G network (guess n28 Band, because the speed is not too great), only compared to the Realme 7 5G phone I'm using daily, the quality of the signal is weaker with the Razr: 2 to 3 bars only, when I get full 5 bars with the Realme. So I guess it's got more to do with the Razr (5G only?) antenna location/quality.
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I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
Cashreedhar said:
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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That is very nice to hear. Does the phone work with other carriers once sim unlocked without changing the phone software? Does 5G work on other carriers too, if the bandwidths match? Thanks
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The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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I may not understand much details of these modems, however my understanding is that there are some 5G bands common between carriers.
Verizon holds 76% of total available 28GHz spectrum bands and and 48% 39GHz 5g spectrum bands.
At&T holds 40% of 39GHz bands and Tmobile holds 12% of 28GHz bands. If I'm not mistaken the modem in Note 10 5G model supports 600MHz which is new Tmobile band. So, if Note 10 modem supports those 2 5G bands on verizon, technically it should work on at&t and t-mobile too? Although these may work in different cities as of now
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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technically they wouldnt be blocking anything if they just dont include the antennae/functionailt.. its then up to the user to research and purchase if it suits their needs.
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After Verizon unlocked the phone, surprisingly 5G works with Tmobile without any modification. Of course not all the bands. Haven't had 5G signal so far and suddenly when I'm standing near a 5G antenna in downtown Manhattan, I had full signal
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
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nope.
the n976v only has vzw and gcf csc codes on it which both use the vzw sales code n network code.. changing carriers should work but on network as the csc should recognize this and load the correct apns n such but the bootani n vzw stuff is there to stay..
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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not odd.. its a vzw branded 5g device.. its hit or miss on other 5g networks.. they typically use different bands and frequencies and 5g variants dont contain full csc for other carriers like the non 5g devices
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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Where did you buy this phone? I had the same issue, when I changed the code to GCF from VZW. I had to send the phone back to Samsung, as the local samsung experience store couldn't even understand the problem. GCF is for Samsung diagnostic purposes only and they had to change the motherboard board on the phone in order to fix the issue. If your carrier 5g mmwave band is one of the band used by Verizon, you'll be able to use 5G with this phone. I was able to use 5G in NYC with TMOBILE, but not when I moved to a different state.
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Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I can relate the issue you're facing. I was using this phone with TMobile 5G in NYC, but when I moved to different state, I can't get the 5G reception. In order to understand this further, you need to understand the frequencies supported by TMobile and frequencies owned by Verizon. TMobile shares one of Verizon's mmwave band (only around 25%) and these antennas are limited to only few metro cities. Even if you live in one of those big cities, you need to stand close to the 5G antenna in order to get the 5G signal. I remember that I had to stand within 50ft from the antenna in order to get 5G signal (downtown Manhattan near Meridian Lane and Water st).
So I'm new to this. Ive got a Note10+ 5G from Verizon (SM-N976V). Ported over from Verizon to At&t. Works fine accept its on 4G LTE (no 5G... the Samsung S9+ went over to 5G no issues). I am told if I flash the phone to the unlocked firmware it should get rid of the Verizon "lock" and work. I have tried this as per help form Android Central however having no success flashing... I am not exactly that savvy with this stuff... Please help
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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You can network unlock it pretty easily even if the phone isn't paid off yet. Download setedit by 4a from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner
and change the setting "vzw_network_lock" from a 1 to a 0. You'll have to buy the expansion pack from 4a to have a foreground guardian that'll prevent it from going back to a 1.
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Good evening all,
I recently purchased an unlocked snapdragon S20 Ultra 5G and I am unable to get the Network Mode option under Mobile Network. Is there any way I can enable without having to wipe the phone?
I am currently on AT&T and in the LA area where 5G is available (I checked on the map)
Thank you!
xxxrichievxxx said:
Good evening all,
I recently purchased an unlocked snapdragon S20 Ultra 5G and I am unable to get the Network Mode option under Mobile Network. Is there any way I can enable without having to wipe the phone?
I am currently on AT&T and in the LA area where 5G is available (I checked on the map)
Thank you!
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Are you currently on ATE4?
In order for me to have wifi calling and 5G I had be running ATE6 U CSC from G988US.
Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/g988u-g988u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054133
Read thru it you'll see what to do
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Are you currently on ATE4?
In order for me to have wifi calling and 5G I had be running ATE6 U CSC from G988US.
Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/g988u-g988u1-firmware-links-flashing-t4054133
Read thru it you'll see what to do
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Thank you for your reply!
I went ahead and followed the tutorial again and no success..
I am getting 5Ge which is not true 5G just a little gimmick AT&T has pulled. Notice in the screen shot how it says LTE still.
And I still don't have the option to select the network mode.. Which leads me to believe that that is what is blocking 5G from happening.
I'm currently in the Modesto area which according to the AT&T website should be one of the few cities to have it here in California..
I'm beginning to think this Snapdragon version I purchased has the band locked for some reason...
I have found out why I wasn't receiving 5G, my AT&T plan had to be set up with AT&T Elite or AT&T Extra plan. Without that I wasn't able to access the 5G network. It's a little mind-boggling that we have to pay extra to access 5G.
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I have found out why I wasn't receiving 5G, my AT&T plan had to be set up with AT&T Elite or AT&T Extra plan. Without that I wasn't able to access the 5G network. It's a little mind-boggling that we have to pay extra to access 5G.
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Paying extra for 5G is pretty standard. Besides having faster download speeds, what advantage(s) do you have over 4G, receiving a text or email 3 seconds sooner? I'm holding off until networks are built out and Service Provider standards are defined. In the future when more 5G utilities are widely available it makes perfect sense but for now I can't justify spending more for a 5G Device and additional Service Provider fees.
I have the Samsung Factory Unlocked version of the S20+ (model SG-M986U1).* This means the phone is not carrier-specific, it works on all carriers (CDMA, GSM) and supports both millimeter wave (Verizon 5G Ultra Wide UW) AND lower frequency band 5G (usually called Sub 6).* The 5G UW super fast network is typically only available in highly populated areas (cities) because it that frequency signal doesn't travel very far and is easily blocked by buildings.* However you will notce the Verizon 5G coverage map shows 5G as being pretty widespread across the country.* Most of that is their Sub 6 5G Network which was launched in mid October 2020.* The 5G Sub 6 network, to my understanding, is using some of the same frequency bands as 4G so essentially it's really an amped up 4G signal using what is called Dynamic Signal Sharing (DSS)*(A lot of people don't understand all this.)*
I'm curious if there's anyone on the forums with a factory unlocked version of the S20 (typically the model number I think has a U at the end instead of VZW) can confirm if their phone shows a 5G icon when you are in sub 6 5G or does it show "LTE+"* I read somewhere the unlocked phones show LTE+ because technically that is what Sub 6 band 5G using DSS really is and 5G in that case is more of a marketing term.* Because different carriers use different terms for different networks, the factory unlocked phones can connect to all the different 5G networks but they can't accomodate all the different marketing terms.* I'd also be curious if when connected to the millimeter wave 5G in the cities if these factory unlocked phones show the "UW" designation which is bascially a Verizon marketing term, or if the phone just shows "5G".
There was also an article that talked about these phones needing a software update to use 5G and supposedly the updates were pushed out right after Verizon announced their Sub 6 5G network launch in mid October. But the author wasn't sure if the Factory Unlocked non-carrier specific models would receive the necessary update. Considering Verizon and Samsung just signed a 6.5 Billion Dollar agreement for SAMSUNG to further build out their 5G network, I would be very surprised if it were the case the factory unlocked models didn't get the update.
My S20+ model SG-M986U1 is showing Service Provider SW Ver. SAOMC_SM-G986U1_OYN-VZQ_QQ_0027 wondering if that's the 5G compatible version?
The other thing is a lot of people just swap SIM cards when they get a new phone. With 5G in most cases, if your SIM card was issued may months ago, you need to go into the carrier store and have them give you a new 5G compatible SIM card. I honestly can't remember if my phone was showing LTE or LTE+ before and after SIM card change. I tested the bandwidth after the change and in a strong signal area got 60mbit download but I didn't have a pre-SIM swap test in that area to compare to unfortunately.
Well I feel like I'm going in circles but now found a Reddit thread that confirms what I originally suspected.
The Factory Unlocked (model ending in U1) S20 phones apparently have not got the update from Samsung yet to allow sub 6 5G connection. But there is a hack in that you can change the carrier network code to ATT even though you are on Verizon and it enabled the N5 band which is what Verizon uses for their "Nationwide 5G" To do this you dial *#272*your IMEI number# Then select ATT and Install and change network code only. Phone will reboot and now you will see 5G UW symbol.
I tried the CSC change on my factory unlocked S20+. I ran three successive bandwidth tests on bandwidthplace.com before and after the change so 3 times on VZW and 3 times on ATT. As others have alluded to the LTE DSS Sub 6 Flavor of Verizon 5G is on average about the same speed as 4G LTE+. So I just turned it back to VZW and will wait for the update from Samsung. I'm surprised a month and a half later it still hasn't got the update to allow N5 band on Verizon.
I'm also wondering is the S20 always show 5G UW when connected to any 5G including sub 6 5G and not actual millimeter wave ultra wide 5G? Or is that just a side effect of "spoofing" the ATT carrier code when actually on a Verizon network IMEI?
Hello Jazee, this is my first response to anyone on xda, and I know that by now you probably have your answer I notice this is an old post. I have an unlocked Samsung s20 5g. And depending on where I am, it says 4g let, and when I'm closer to the city, or hold my leg right(I live in the country), my phone shows 5g. It's shown lte+ before. I think it depends on your carrier. Some I've noticed share 4 and 5g lte simultaneously depending on the current speed. As you mentioned earlier, 5g signal doesn't put up a big fight when it sees a tree or building. Anyways, that's my 2 bits worth, hope this helped. BTW, lte+, when I get that, it is pitiful. Nothing like either 4g lte or 5g lte.
I got my hands on a One+ 8T 5G and loved it. It was fast (on 5G in Canada) right out of the bat, smooth, snappy and bug free. I did root it, and debloated some T-Mobile stuff and had an opportunity to move on to One+ 9 Pro 5G LE2127 T-Mobile.
As a stock out of the box smartphone, the LE2127 is hit and miss. Most of what I didn't like I could fix and improve, some, I couldn't. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted the device, modified the policy restrictions and debloated. All of this improved the smartphone, but as an out of the box smartphone there is not a lot to improve upon if your NOT in Canada.
I was disappointed with the performance of the device on the 5G network. Yes, the handset would say that it connected to a 5G network, but many times it was a 4G LTE tower despite the handset showing the 5G icon. The truth was in the pudding, the connection speedtest on the 5G Network were on average 50% less than the comparable out of the box working One+ 8T 5G. And for what it's worth, I could not get the device to convert to the global LE2125 image (I tried a half dozen times, not wholeheartedly because I failed). What really irked me was the subpar service red tape mumbo jumbo that this device has if you are not in the USA. In Canada, it's a caveat buyer beware hate hate relationship.
I am now running a true global One+ 9 Pro LE2125 handset that you CAN unlock the bootloader without the 7 day wait period that you must endure with the LE2127. From there I refused to take the upgrade to Android 12, and I only modded the policy restrictions so as to access the 5G Network in Canada (therefore, not rooted, not bootloader unlocked). Once again, I was disappointed with the results and performance.
So I stumbled upon this... I decided that if I was going to unlock the bootloader, I would need to format and start all over again. So that is what I did, I decided to unlock the bootloader and set up my device and take all the updates. I can't say on the surface Android 12 is better than Android 11, but then I can't say I am experiencing any issues or bugs. From there, I then followed the guide and decided to root my device and install one of my favorite apps, Adaway.
To my dismay, I found out that I could not mod the policy restrictions because I could no longer access engineering mode. The following also did not work *#*#4636#*#*. And worse, the handset no longer showed 5G as an available option in the "Preferred network type" Aw [email protected]!
But, to my surprise, I did try 5G switch from the playstore and it worked (allowed me to choose NR and therefore my device accesses the 5G network type). But better than that, the actual performance on the 5G Network running Android 12 w/ 5G Switch is a lot faster than using the SAME handset on Android 11 w/ the Policy restriction mod on the 5G network. You might want to consider this route if 5G is important to you.
So far, I have not had the time to investigate whether or not you can access the engineering mode on Android 12 (so as to permanently mod the policy restriction file in order to access the 5G network), nor whether or not you can debloat some of the LE2125 global bloatware.
All this to say that I am more satisfied running this configuration (Android 12, bootloader unlocked, rooted, 5G Switch) on my device.
Cheers
Was wondering if anyone had any ideas on why I'm not seeing 5g with a global edition 13 Ultra on Verizon in the US? I know it's missing some of the bands and I'm fine with that experience, but checking cellmapper.net suggests the areas I've been should still have some 5g availability on compatible bands. I've checked that it's set to 5g preferred, SIM was in a iPhone 13 Pro and Zenfone 9 previously, both of which were getting 5g in these areas, and I've checked that it's set correctly for preferred network type under *#*#4636*# from the dialer.
APN settings are mostly greyed out from editing, I can pretty much only add a name to one for what's allowed. VZWINTERNET entry looks fine though, and everything else such as mms/sms/calls/LTE data area all fine.
Phone is unrooted and I'm trying to avoid tinkering too much, but can unlock BL if it's absolutely necessary. I've got a US Mobile (Verizon MVNO) sim that also is only showing LTE for data if I pop that in.
Not the end of the world as I often switch over to LTE instead as it's often more reliable for me, but curious if it's still something I can get working.
Which model(my phone/detailed info../model)and which rom(example:V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM)?
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Which model(my phone/detailed info../model)and which rom(example:V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM)?
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Model 2304FPN6DG, rom V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM
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Model 2304FPN6DG, rom V14.0.2.0.TMAMIXM
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You should have 5g with N77/78/5 bands, seems strange that the apn stays greyed out, maybe see with your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-13-ultra
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You should have 5g with N77/78/5 bands, seems strange that the apn stays greyed out, maybe see with your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-13-ultra
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Yeah that's what I was expecting for supported bands. Calling the carrier went about as well as I expected, "your Xiaomi device isn't compatible with the Verizon network, especially since it's missing Band 13. Do you have another device you can activate instead?". Looking around on Google, seems like carriers might be able to lock APN settings on a SIM, so that might be what's happening there, but not sure. Thanks for taking a look at it with me.
But B13 concerns 4g, anyway bands N77/78 have a low range and are mainly used in town.