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Hey guys.
2 weeks with the Note 10+, 256GB/12GB - Exynos. I keep seeing those wonderful SOT reports. 8 hours, 9 hours, 10 hours! I'm not even talking about those posting screenshots of 12-14 hours...
They all use WQHD. They all use Facebook. They even use youtube and netflix, on wi-fi and on mobile with more than 50% brightness, and they all get at worst 8 hours of Screen on time.
Little me, on the other hand, uses mostly whatsapp and text, reduce his brightness when possible, check for hungry apps all the time, yet even on Airplane mode, I barely get get to 0% with 5 hours of SOT.
What am I missing? What is the magic trick? Is it possible that I'm having some sort of a hardware failure? Bad luck?
Don't get me wrong, 5 hours of sot, compared to my dying and evil LG G4 is still amazing, but I just can't wrap my head around this difference between exactly the same devices, this huge difference.
Let there be light
and sot.
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
Don't worry mate, those 8,9,10 hours of SOT are for people who watch lots of Videos like YouTube etc on their device and seldom use camera or do gaming on their Phone. SOT is very subjective and differs from person to person. I get 5 to 6 hours of SOT myself and is pretty happy with it
As others said it's hard to compare, for example weak cell/wifi signal can discharge battery pretty fast even with screen off. After saying that, you should disable everything you can that you don't use. Also, forget SOT, see how much your phone discharges overnight when it's not in use. For example charge before sleep to 100%, wake up and see what's the charge after 6-8 hours of standby. If it's less than 94-92 %, then you may have rogue app than runs down your battery and finding it and fixing it may help you a lot.
Shtihi said:
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
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No, it is not
Anything over 5 hours is not that bad imo! However, i would expect that the note 10 plus should easily be hitting 6 hours minimum for the majority of users depending on there usage! I have literally only got my hands on my device today and after about 30 minutes use plus a software update it has dropped just 6%
my .2 cents , if your phone can last long enough for you to achieve what ever you want to do achieve in day and without you running behind a charger then you got yourself a keeper .
so don't worry about SOT , standby time ... use your phone to its fullest extent and enjoy it
vinumsv said:
my .2 cents , if your phone can last long enough for you to achieve what ever you want to do achieve in day and without you running behind a charger then you got yourself a keeper .
so don't worry about SOT , standby time ... use your phone to its fullest extent and enjoy it
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I can totally agree with that, but there's this little voice in my head (Well, there are plenty, but that's not our current burning issue), that's just keep telling me that it doesn't make sense that when both people use the exact same device, with almost the exact same settings, the difference will be so big...
EagleXDR said:
I can totally agree with that, but there's this little voice in my head (Well, there are plenty, but that's not our current burning issue), that's just keep telling me that it doesn't make sense that when both people use the exact same device, with almost the exact same settings, the difference will be so big...
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but main culprit would be Radios ... so are you using same mobil service provider and living same locality then we can worry if comparatively the battery is life lower.
Me too.onmy have 5 hrs max sot, but I play around 1 to 1.5 hr of Intense gaming.
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vinumsv said:
but main culprit would be Radios ... so are you using same mobil service provider and living same locality then we can worry if comparatively the battery is life lower.
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Living in a small country, compared to some people who use the same network in the same city (Maybe 5km from each other). Obviously, it's still not a purely scientific comparison, but it's something/
I used to wonder why there was a big difference between my battery performance and the ones I see on the net. Until I went to Taiwan for a vacation. My sucky battery phone then suddenly lasted the whole day. And that was with constant gps usage, constant checking, messaging, googling, etc.
I think the network strength and consistency is the biggest determinant of battery life given the same usage patterns. I live in the Philippines where the signal is not great which is probably why i get a lousy battery life compared to others.
However, the Note 10+ is giving me the best ever battery life ever. Out of all the phones I've owned, this is the only phone to actually surpass the 5 hour screen on time mark.
koppee1 said:
I used to wonder why there was a big difference between my battery performance and the ones I see on the net. Until I went to Taiwan for a vacation. My sucky battery phone then suddenly lasted the whole day. And that was with constant gps usage, constant checking, messaging, googling, etc.
I think the network strength and consistency is the biggest determinant of battery life given the same usage patterns. I live in the Philippines where the signal is not great which is probably why i get a lousy battery life compared to others.
However, the Note 10+ is giving me the best ever battery life ever. Out of all the phones I've owned, this is the only phone to actually surpass the 5 hour screen on time mark.
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Signal strength affecting battery life makes sense, I have heard that before, but I have tried going a full day with just Wi-Fi, airport mode and no sim installed, and I got just the same results, so I guess that in my case, it's not related (sadly).
During my normal daily use, at the end of day I end with SOT of 3 to 5 hrs and 65-45% battery left. So absolutely I can get 8-10 hrs and this is with highest screen resolution, 50% brightness, GPS, BT, NFC, AOD and Edge screen on. You may have rogue apps running in the background and using your battery, did you check under settings/device care/ battery what is using your power, even if it's not very accurate, could give you some hints.
I check it constantly, no rogue apps whatsoever. I even did a factory reset, installing only whatsapp and disabling some Samsung apps, yet I still can't reach more than 5 hours of SOT, in almost "lab clean" conditions. Honestly, it's driving me mad.
How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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Hmm... I believe I lost 5% last night. I'll check back tomorrow morning for a more accurate answer.
Shtihi said:
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
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pete4k said:
How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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Wtf I lose almost 10% on aod overnight
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The Exynos SoC is garbage.
I learned the hard way with the Galaxy S10+. I thought to myself: "I'll buy the Exynos version so I can have an unlocked bootloader and enjoy custom ROM's and all the good stuff!" Little did I know, it's tough to enjoy the good stuff with such crap battery life.
Snapdragon users of the S10+ were reporting amazing battery life, meanwhile I couldn't get 4 hours of SoT with very careful use. I decided not to make the same error with the Note 10+ and ordered it with a Snapdragon SoC. I can happily report 7-8 hours of SoT and it was only getting better. I'm back on the OnePlus 7 Pro because I may return the Note 10+ for the Galaxy Fold, but I am leaning towards keeping it because the camera is so damned good.
Either way, never buy an Exynos phone. I enjoyed my S8+ with the Exynos chipset, but made a grave error with the S10+. Avoid at all costs if you can. If you need the radio bands that only the Exynos version has - look into getting a battery case because you'll need it.
Good luck Exynos users
I watched an hour of youtube and drained 6%. Do you guys get this same amount of drain on your mate 20x watching an hour on yt?
Is this considered normal on this phone with a 5000 mah battery?
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Yeap brother, i even got like 9-10% battery drain... is it normal.. But now it depends on the battery as well and the charging cycles... If you don't charge correctly, you're going to damage the battery in time... Cheers
filip_pine said:
Yeap brother, i even got like 9-10% battery drain... is it normal.. But now it depends on the battery as well and the charging cycles... If you don't charge correctly, you're going to damage the battery in time... Cheers
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Hey filip,
Thats wack unfortunately. I installed the accubattery app and it read that my true capacity was 4,584 mAh, not the 5,000 mAh battery capacity. Is this normal??? I feel like taking this phone back and either buying another one or just staying with my samsung a70. Anyway I hope you can answer my question.
Firstly please dont use 3rd party app as it get incorrect readings and worse they are the battery eater.
Also, I used both mate20x and the new note 10 plus, about half an hour of youtube (I know its bad but its the way to keep a toddler busy), m20x will drop 6 - 8% while note 10 plus will drop 15%.
Mate 20x is really a beast..
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Also, I used both mate20x and the new note 10 plus, about half an hour of youtube (I know its bad but its the way to keep a toddler busy), m20x will drop 6 - 8% while note 10 plus will drop 15%.
Mate 20x is really a beast..
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Hey hippo1n2,
Wow.. on my mate 20x the batt drains 6% for watching 1 hour of yt.. I guess I'm ok then.
Hello everyone
I just purchased 256g 12gb ram snap 855 note 10 plus last month. But after the android 10 update my phone seems to have a bad battery life.
Its like 50 mins screen time and battery is at 82 percent.
Brightness is 50%ish fhd+ nothing in background only usual apps.
It seems.like going down by %1 every 2 or 4 minutes. I watched alot of reviews and it was not going down so fast.
Id Be glad if experienced people helps out. Im thinking to replace this.
I watched a lot of reviews too.
Unplugging the phone makes it loose like 3-4% in 2 minutes. Then i think with a common use you can get 1hr of SOT every 25%-30% with some basic tweaks.
I think the reviews are based on a battery starting from 100 to 0% without pausing the screen. You can get 10-11%/hr while the screen is on, which is pretty good depending of what you're doing.
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I watched a lot of reviews too.
Unplugging the phone makes it loose like 3-4% in 2 minutes. Then i think with a common use you can get 1hr of SOT every 25%-30% with some basic tweaks.
I think the reviews are based on a battery starting from 100 to 0% without pausing the screen. You can get 10-11%/hr while the screen is on, which is pretty good depending of what you're doing.
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Thanks for the reply,
Well people talk about having 8-10 hours of SOT so, this concerned me like hell. when i click battery options, it shows me that still learning patterns tho. Could it be as if it's just updated to Android 10?
Something is definitely wrong. You might want to factory reset it, and start from scratch. Hopefully that resolves it.
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Dont be stupid believing sot of 8-10 hrs.... Those video showing coz they never lock the screen. Normal user will turn on off the screen.. hence eventually will use more juice. If a phone can last u 6 hrs... U be more happy...
Hello
I just received my s20 plus for a week now and the battery life just like my old s7 edge after 4 years .. 3.5 to 4.5 SOT .
Is this normal ?
Same here mate, but this might improve with software updates.... At least I hope so
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Same here mate, but this might improve with software updates.... At least I hope so
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I hope.. i am afraid that the device has high power consumption design that with time should only get worse.
Give it 4 days to settle down. But yes it does drain faster than s10+. I knew that before pre-ordering but I thought Samsung would have figured something out...
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Guys this is completely normal for the phone to drain this fast, the phone is learning all your usage patterns in order to adjust the battery, use this time to go over the settings and tweak it to your liking. Also in the s10+ forum there is a battery optimisation post, go over there and apply it to your phone. Also maybe you are using the ultra high definition and 120hz, maybe start with that to tweak it.
Another thing is if you just restore the phone from a backup, this can bring corrupted settings that might be the culprits do factory reset and install all from zero without a backup.
''maybe you are using the ultra high definition and 120hz, maybe start with that to tweak it.''
thats physically IMPOSSIBLE now
I assume that you are using the exynos versions?
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I had 7 1/2 sot yesterday SD 120hz
Second day, 120Hz is lovely but damn, I'm at home connected to my WiFi and it's draining like crazy, I'm worried how is it gonna look when I go outdoors to the college and will be using LTE. I'm on Exynos
I'm getting 2 hours of SOT through my day (7 am to 10 pm)
It's been a week that I've been using the Exynos version @ 120Hz RR. Battery life is way worse than S10+ on similar settings, tweaks and usage pattern.
I have charged my phone for the 2nd time and i get +- 5 hours of sot. I use everything on the phone, 120hz etc. The battery is still in the learning pattern phase...getting same battery life as I got on my S10+. I get roughly 24 hours with one charge and 6 hours is included when I sleep...The battery will get better. With my S10+ I got 24-36 hours of battery time with +- 3-5 hours sot...depending on usage...So if I can get the same or a bit better I would be very happy
Virgo_Guy said:
It's been a week that I've been using the Exynos version @ 120Hz RR. Battery life is way worse than S10+ on similar settings, tweaks and usage pattern.
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True. Battery life is horrible. I don't want to use such a phone tbh
iamnotkurtcobain said:
True. Battery life is horrible. I don't want to use such a phone tbh
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I'm reading pretty bad about the Exynos Ultra as well in different but reliable sources. It's a pain to have a primary driver that dies mid-day on medium usage, that era of "unacceptable batterylife" on a flagship is believed to be over years back. I remember me behaving in an uncivilized? manner with the ones who tried to defend Exynos S9+ in every online forum when the culprit was the SoC itself to start with..
no wonder they didnt want to enable 120hz at 2K res - it would kill the battery in 1h probably
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I had 7 1/2 sot yesterday SD 120hz
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7.5hrs screen on time? How? First person I've heard that high.
I have the S20+ with the snapdragon processor. I think the battery life is very good, way better than my P4XL. I have 4 hours sot right now and have 60% left. I'm using 120 hz refresh rate. I believe it has gotten better over time, either from "settling" or updates, or maybe my imagination, haven't actually checked but some nights I go to bed after a day of light use and I'm shocked at the battery left. I unplug at 6am and at 10pm I've seen 80% battery left. That's minimal use like I said, not a typical day.
I think the battery life is quite alright, on par with my second phone (OnePlus 7 pro)
Exynos/12gb ram/120hz: stranded on 12%, so it would be around 7.5hours of SOT in full day.
Note: got the phone 3 days ago, it's still settling.View attachment 4977585
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I have the snapdragon version and the battery on this thing is a BEAST!
Going on 34 hours off the charger and 7 hours of sot. I have done nothing to conserve battery. Loads of apps/accounts syncing. I am super impressed. Way better then my s10+ was.
120hz on, about mid-brightness, I'm lasting all day use with my personal usage habits. Battery life is as good if not a bit better than on my Note 10+. Snapdragon here on T-Mobile. Mostly WiFi. But it's only been about a week of use.
Can't complain at all.
ETA: Also BT always on using with my Frontier watch and Galaxy Buds on occasion.
Flip 4 as well. Pretty amazing results here.
iPhone 13 Pro Max still king.
Impressive it'll mostly be the outer screen used, for me anyway. Wonder what the result would be then
Very nice to see. Interested to see what real world application battery life will be.
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Very nice to see. Interested to see what real world application battery life will be.
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I got the phone friday, and so far it seems quite a bit better than the 3 with my use. Looks like I'm getting 1 hour more SOT, and that is without android getting the time to "settle in". Will test more
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I got the phone friday, and so far it seems quite a bit better than the 3 with my use. Looks like I'm getting 1 hour more SOT, and that is without android getting the time to "settle in". Will test more
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Very nice, that is a descent improvement right from the start!
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Very nice, that is a descent improvement right from the start!
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It is! I normally get worse the first week or so, so it's looking promising
I'm pretty happy with my 6 hours and 24 minutes SOT. Im sure I can break 7 hours on that.
Something wrong with nova launcher? Surely it's eating too much battery
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Something wrong with nova launcher? Surely it's eating too much battery
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Yeah. Its a Beta version, so its a little buggy.
A 12 hours day out with lots of photos, Google Map usage, screen usage most max brightness. This is 1st full day usage after setup without any battery saving or de bloating, just removal of some preinstalled apps.
Im really surprised and impressed with how much better my SOT with the 4 vs my fold3. With the 3 i would be lucky to get 4.5 to 5hrs SOT and Im on only day 3 with the 4 and got 6hrs today and that will only go up.
Took it off the charger at 4:30am and didnt have to charge until 7pm...i never once could do that on my fold 3 always had to do a mid day top up.
Just this alone was worth the upgrade lol
Somehow Samsung has pulled a miracle. My fold4 gets much better battery life than the s22ultra I am trading in. I seriously have no idea how they did it.
Yep have to say I'm impressed, didn't expect much compared to the fold 3 but it's so much better!
The new chip is how it's doing it!
First day so far with moderate use off charger at 7AM, it's now 19:14 (just after 7pm) so a bit over 12 hours and I'm at 44% so that is doing pretty decent IMHO.
As it settles in and learns usage I'm sure it will get better.
My first day was bad. 3 plus screen on time and 11 hours of usage. Left with 11 percent. Similar to fold 3 battery life. I will let it settle down for a few more days before commenting. But not seeing what many reviewer are experiencing.
Day 2 still not ideal.
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Im really surprised and impressed with how much better my SOT with the 4 vs my fold3. With the 3 i would be lucky to get 4.5 to 5hrs SOT and Im on only day 3 with the 4 and got 6hrs today and that will only go up.
Took it off the charger at 4:30am and didnt have to charge until 7pm...i never once could do that on my fold 3 always had to do a mid day top up.
Just this alone was worth the upgrade lol
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That's quite a battery jump.
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Somehow Samsung has pulled a miracle. My fold4 gets much better battery life than the s22ultra I am trading in. I seriously have no idea how they did it.
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Thank the TSMC made SD8+ gen 1 primarily.