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Bad Photos with stock camera? ( comparision)

I've noticed that the stock htc camera is bad for taking photos
when i had Acer liquid with acer stream camera photos quality was really good
now i'm asking: is a software issue or what? also liquid with stock camera was bad,but only changing the application,the quality was a lot better
any suggestion? which parameters do you use with desire ? ( like saturation,brightness,iso etc)
Attacched photos to see differences ( sorry aren't 100% the same but you can notice the difference)

Just to know (I have pretty the same problem).
Try to make a photo without the back cover.

mmm tried but didn't noticed difference...
you noticed difference without backcover??

Camera indeed sucks. So what other camera applications are available?
Retro Camera and FX Camera. Those are not really for replacement.

erto90 said:
mmm tried but didn't noticed difference...
you noticed difference without backcover??
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Yes, I can clearly see the difference with and without the cover. Especially when making videos but also with photos.

Would be great to port camera from other devices.. also the google camera ( source camera) is better as i saw.. is possibile to port to all roms?
the camera of acer stream is awesome with awesome settings,but don't know if will be possible to ort to desire..
You right! without back cover there is a very visible difference!
Why this and how to solve?

Here you can see the difference with and without the backcover. For me, it's because of the plastic used for the lens. It spoil out using the phone with time.
You can try to remove the plastic or replace the cover. I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)

Hurizen said:
I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)
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a friend of mine was at a clockmaker. He just drills out the plastic cover and glues a saphire-glass in, now its a scratch free and HQ camera cover. Costs are around 20 Euro including work (it lasts 10 Minutes). But you need and old-style clock-maker with its own repair-shop.

I like Vignette alot. Well worth the money, really professional-ish look & feel to it.

Hurizen said:
Here you can see the difference with and without the backcover. For me, it's because of the plastic used for the lens. It spoil out using the phone with time.
You can try to remove the plastic or replace the cover. I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)
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too difference! i think there will be a way to solve this problem,is inammissible for htc to made these things
someone has home-made solution working?

Or for 20 € I've found a battery cover replacement.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199270
But it's brown or silver . And it will get scratched in no time, like in the original one. Brian's solution is definitive.

Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)

Hurizen said:
Or for 20 € I've found a battery cover replacement.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199270
But it's brown or silver . And it will get scratched in no time, like in the original one. Brian's solution is definitive.
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aint that using the same plastic cover??
Mine aint scratched but I still notice a different without cover so replacing it with glass seems to be only option other then removing cover everytime you wanna take a pic/vid.

andycted said:
Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)
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Your pictures seem much more to what I am experiencing taking photos. Hardly(if any) difference cover on or off. I did notice there isn't a lot of color in your pictures.

Tbh, I don't think having a tiny smudge on the cover affects the quality that much as andycted demonstrated. The real limitation is that after all, its a phone camera.
Try using different camera app's with some image-enhancing effects. I recommend Vignette, try it out!

elvis56 said:
Your pictures seem much more to what I am experiencing taking photos. Hardly(if any) difference cover on or off. I did notice there isn't a lot of color in your pictures.
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I'm inside, in a very drab cloudly light coming from the window. Indeed the default settings for the camera (stock froyo) lack a bit of saturation, I forgot to set it to +1.
I remember noticying quite a lot of difference and thinking that since my protector is scratched, that was the cause. Turns out it was greasy on the outside, as well as the inside, as I remove the cover every other day to change battery
EDIT: I've added a couple of shots with +1 and +2 saturation and one where the autoflash went off

andycted said:
Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)
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For me, also your pics lacks of shaprness. You'll notice it better with hi-def images.

just bought Vignette to see, I think is great apllication and take better photos than stock camera
There are a lot of optimization and i really like it
try this out!

Hurizen said:
For me, also your pics lacks of shaprness. You'll notice it better with hi-def images.
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I didn't take the pain to change the settings, or to take great pics, it's a chair and a bottle ! it was just in order to compare lens on/off photos, in every day conditions and the difference isn't all that great. My lens is scratched too.
Stock camera is ugly to see, dodgy in some stuff, but has a ton of functionality. I can't, even remotely, be called a photographer, but I had some fun while going for a walk some minutes ago.
http://picasaweb.google.it/101504838761028525419/MarePesaroTemporale?feat=directlink
The sky was very grey and light quite dim, so I tried to play with exposure and saturation, burning the sky and pretty much everything else in the process. A couple shoots aren't bad though. Try to guess which are with and without lens cover hehe.

Oneplus x - Macro/Lens

Hello Guys.
Now that we have manual mode in camera , i think macro/lens should work just fine , i'v been digging in ebay and amazon to buy some nice lens but i was a bit confused , cause i couldn't afford buying an incompatible ones. Anyways.
I'd like to know if you guys could help choose nice lens/macro for X , i'd very much appre it , this thread can be helpful for other people who wants the same thing.

Any help?

Chegueva said:
Any help?
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I use the magnetic lens from Photojojo. I actually put the stick- on ring on my OEM OnePlus case, then stick whichever lens I'd like to use. I've got the wide angle, macro, fisheye, and telephoto. They work great. The macro lens is VERY amazing. It let's you get extremely close!
Hope this helps!
P.S. I'm not affiliated with photojojo. Just a happy customer.

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I use the magnetic lens from Photojojo. I actually put the stick- on ring on my OEM OnePlus case, then stick whichever lens I'd like to use. I've got the wide angle, macro, fisheye, and telephoto. They work great. The macro lens is VERY amazing. It let's you get extremely close!
Hope this helps!
P.S. I'm not affiliated with photojojo. Just a happy customer.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'll give 'em a try and update this thread for other users.
Also can you link me to Photojojo lens so i could buy them.

Chegueva said:
Thanks for the reply.
I'll give 'em a try and update this thread for other users.
Also can you link me to Photojojo lens so i could buy them.
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Here ya go: http://photojojo.com/awesomeness/cell-phone-lenses?a6nv
Enjoy!
Also, if you're into photography like me... I bought a cell phone tripod mount on Amazon for cheap & also a Bluetooth shutter trigger. Both are handy for macro shooting. Gets rid of the little movement out hands make - that totally ruin macro shots.

equi_design said:
Here ya go: http://photojojo.com/awesomeness/cell-phone-lenses?a6nv
Enjoy!
Also, if you're into photography like me... I bought a cell phone tripod mount on Amazon for cheap & also a Bluetooth shutter trigger. Both are handy for macro shooting. Gets rid of the little movement out hands make - that totally ruin macro shots.
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Nice , i'm gonna order one and see how good they are.
And yes i'm into photography , i already have the tripod mount , it helps a lot and i like it.

alternative view: superwide is super useless

Ok, perhaps an overstrong heading! But this is just my opinion - I actually don't find the superwide nearly as useful as I thought I would. First of all, the quality isn't great and secondly the distortion from it being such a small lens makes it interesting, but not particularly useful. It's especially bad if people are in the picture. I'm really interested to know where people have used it where it actually added some value.

ekerbuddyeker said:
Ok, perhaps an overstrong heading! But this is just my opinion - I actually don't find the superwide nearly as useful as I thought I would. First of all, the quality isn't great and secondly the distortion from it being such a small lens makes it interesting, but not particularly useful. It's especially bad if people are in the picture. I'm really interested to know where people have used it where it actually added some value.
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I wouldn't agree for main camera superwide, i managed to took some nice pics that i couldn't capture otherwise, quality is not the point here, but what you can capture with it.
BUT! my real question is, what is the freaking point of 2 cameras on front?They make almost no difference between each other..

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I wouldn't agree for main camera superwide, i managed to took some nice pics that i couldn't capture otherwise, quality is not the point here, but what you can capture with it.
BUT! my real question is, what is the freaking point of 2 cameras on front?They make almost no difference between each other..
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You can't actually use the second camera on the front it is just solely for depth information to the other sensor
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oneandroidnut said:
You can't actually use the second camera on the front it is just solely for depth information to the other sensor
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Then what does the switch does?It changes between 2 what if not cameras, and angle changes just a bit.

ivicask said:
Then what does the switch does?It changes between 2 what if not cameras, and angle changes just a bit.
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It crops it. All from one sensor cover the one up and try it. Still will switch between cropped and not
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It crops it. All from one sensor cover the one up and try it. Still will switch between cropped and not
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I see now, still i think that button it pointless, it does nothing, its minimum crop, can someone explain me actually the point of it?

ivicask said:
I see now, still i think that button it pointless, it does nothing, its minimum crop, can someone explain me actually the point of it?
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Not a clue should have had a wide angle selfie lense like the pixel 3 xl
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Ok, perhaps an overstrong heading! But this is just my opinion - I actually don't find the superwide nearly as useful as I thought I would. First of all, the quality isn't great and secondly the distortion from it being such a small lens makes it interesting, but not particularly useful. It's especially bad if people are in the picture. I'm really interested to know where people have used it where it actually added some value.
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Extremely useful when travelling and trying to take pictures of architecture. Most cities in the world are very dense and objects are large, with limited space to position yourself for a photo. Your only choice here is to carry an ultra-wide lens. Most of my pictures from my recent trip to Vienna were done in ultra-wide. Stick it into DxO ViewPoint and correct the geometry and you have fantastic photos.

For me, Its a useful option in the right situations...

It's useless until you need it. I thought it was the useless but when in a tight space where you need to capture more area in your photo, the wide angle is extremely useful. Happens a lot to me when I take photos for site inspections (construction job).

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It's useless until you need it. I thought it was the useless but when in a tight space where you need to capture more area in your photo, the wide angle is extremely useful. Happens a lot to me when I take photos for site inspections (construction job).
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Or taking a photo for a group of people and the space is somewhat tight you cant go so much backwards

Completely useful since I remember in my LG G6 u can capture interesting perspectives.

General Some initial photos - Hibicus Flowers

Here are some snaps I took early this morning, so light was low. EXIF has been stripped to remove location. I will post the exif later minus location, hmmm the photos have all lost detail uploading. Have linked below to my flickr photo album for Pixel 6 Pro, Post #9

This gives me hope. I like to take close-ups of insects. I'm pretty much a point & shoot type of photographer. Were there special settings for this photo?

wekebu said:
This gives me hope. I like to take close-ups of insects. I'm pretty much a point & shoot type of photographer. Were there special settings for this photo?
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No although I do turn on raw + jpg, but these were just the JPG no special settings just adjusting the zoom, was expecting more bokeh from the zoomed image

Here are a couple of shots full res and exif minus location uploaded to flickr
Pixel 6 Pro Snaps

if it had macro mode then you could got awesome macro shot of it

Nekromantik said:
if it had macro mode then you could got awesome macro shot of it
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Yeah I remember one of my old Pixels had Macro mode, but still wasn't as good as these. Better light would have helped a lot it was 5:30am

Really stunning shots. Thank you for posting them

wekebu said:
Really stunning shots. Thank you for posting them
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Thanks will take some later with better light, and maybe some astro tonight

@wekebu If your interested I have posted a few more shots into the my flickr account. A couple more of the same flower from earlier in better light and more macro style, unfortunately it was super windy so hard to get focus exactly right. One pixel RAW manually edited photo to compare with google auto one, some basic landscape shots at various settings.
Flickr photos can be found here Pixel Pro 6 Snaps

macro type shots

danw_oz said:
@wekebu If your interested I have posted a few more shots into the my flickr account. A couple more of the same flower from earlier in better light and more macro style, unfortunately it was super windy so hard to get focus exactly right. One pixel RAW manually edited photo to compare with google auto one, some basic landscape shots at various settings.
Flickr photos can be found here Pixel Pro 6 Snaps
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Very interested, but can't get there. My internet is Ubifi and we're going through a rough 'upgrade' to the service.

wekebu said:
Very interested, but can't get there. My internet is Ubifi and we're going through a rough 'upgrade' to the service.
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Well I hope that get sorted for you soon, I feel your pain, here in Australia these sort of things drag on and are extremely annoying.
Here are a couple more different Hibicus tree.

@danw_oz - last picture is with or without digital zoom? Looks good.

Looking good, I almost can smell the flowers scent!

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@danw_oz - last picture is with or without digital zoom? Looks good.
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None taken with digital zoom, just using the optical, that staymen one was 4x, and focusing as close as I could

Question Selfie stick for open Fold 3

Anyone found a selfie stick that opens large enough to take the Z Fold 3 when its opened?
I'm looking for one to attach to a tripod, so it must have teh standard screw hole in it.

Why? The inside cameral is so much worse that the outer one on the front or using any of the ones on the back?

Talderon said:
Why? The inside cameral is so much worse that the outer one on the front or using any of the ones on the back?
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You can take selfies with the ones on the back by using the front screen preview function, which requires the phone to be open in order to use it for selfies. I'm guessing that is the reason. Also, the pictures from the inside camera were vastly improved with the last update.

ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
You can take selfies with the ones on the back by using the front screen preview function, which requires the phone to be open in order to use it for selfies. I'm guessing that is the reason. Also, the pictures from the inside camera were vastly improved with the last update.
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Ok. I can see that. I really was just confused and wondering. Thanks!
I will have to check out the inner cam since it has had some work done on it.
Thanks!

Talderon said:
Ok. I can see that. I really was just confused and wondering. Thanks!
I will have to check out the inner cam since it has had some work done on it.
Thanks!
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Yeah, I used to hate selfies with the inner camera because even though the image looked good when it was live preview, the pics were crazy soft, fairly unusable, but now they are as sharp as the live preview. The phone is a bit awkward to hold far away for a more full-body pic if I'm trying to get my outfit in it (to send a guy, as I'm a girl), so I usually have to use both hands for that. I'm not a selfie stick type of person, but I can see why it would be helpful with this phone, although I don't know if the weight of the phone along with the size would make it hard to hold up and out, especially for more than a few seconds.

I'm going to mount my phone to a tripod. I've always done this with a selfie stick, as they usually have a extra hole for this

vinokirk said:
I'm going to mount my phone to a tripod. I've always done this with a selfie stick, as they usually have a extra hole for this
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I'm that case, you can just buy a tripod head made for tablets that adjusts to the size of the device. It cradles the device between two arms like a car phone holder does. I got one years ago for my first tablet as I'm a photographer and it had an app that connects to my camera so I can control the camera and have a bigger preview screen, as well as another app for focus stacking to control the camera/have a big preview on the tablet screen.