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So I know there are a couple of posts on here but I have found them a little hard to follow. I just got my captivate last sunday and on the stock 2.1 rogers rom I noticed that the battery life was very poor. Since then I am now running cog 3.01 i think and my battery life is now alot longer than before.
For the way I would like to use my phone It is still not enough for what would make me happy. my phone is unplugged at 6:00 am and when i get home by 5 it used to be dead but after "breaking in the battery" and the new rom i get home with about %15 percent battery.
I just bought a triple battery pack off of ebay for $10. these batteries are rated at 1500 mAh, the same as the battery that came with my phone. I am just wondering what I can expect from these batteries.
My plan is to drain two of them completely then leave them in my desk drawer(from what I have read if you plan on storing batteries they should be completely drained first) and use one of them plus my oem battery daily(until they start to lose performance). Again does anyone have any experience with a battery of the sort or any similar third party battery?
they are no where as good as samsung oem battery. even though it says 1500mah it is not or will drop drastically after a month or so of use...i've bought a lot of those batteries from ebay and they always like that even some other well known companies like Seidio do not compare with manufacture's batteries. the difference is usable capacity, oem batteries are around 95% compared to cheap chinese ones that are anywhere from 60-80%.
haha thanks that makes sense why they are so cheap, well i will probs by three new ones every months or so.
I have those ebay batteries. I bought the kit that comes with two batteries and an external charger for about $10.
The ebay battery is has about 60-70% of the power of the OEM battery. I have no real hard evidence just from using it for the past 2 months or so.
I am ok that it is does not last as long as OEM because it was only $10 and it came with the external charger. I love the external charger because it allows me to charge a spare battery while I keep one in my phone.
Saelee said:
I have those ebay batteries. I bought the kit that comes with two batteries and an external charger for about $10.
The ebay battery is has about 60-70% of the power of the OEM battery. I have no real hard evidence just from using it for the past 2 months or so.
I am ok that it is does not last as long as OEM because it was only $10 and it came with the external charger. I love the external charger because it allows me to charge a spare battery while I keep one in my phone.
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I bought the same ensemble, with essentially the same results excepting perhaps that one of my replacement batteries seems to underperform with about 40% of OEM battery life.
That said, for $10... they're very handy as backups. They'll easily give you a few more hours in a pinch, which is essentially just what I was looking for. I really have no complaints in that respect.
The best strategy for battery life I've found is to buy a handful of wall adapters and position them in places you spend a lot of time at, and to develop a habit of plugging in when you're not moving around.
Sad but true, but mediocre battery life is just kind of a way of life for these (and really all) high-performance Android devices. Excepting getting an outsized and expensive battery replacement like the Seidio 3500 mAh that all but prevents use with many accessories and cases, a couple wall chargers and a car charger are effective if mildly annoying means of managing it.
These generic Hong Kong replacements are entirely effective as emergency supplements, but you'll find yourself preferring the OEM cell still.
Yep I mean for $20 I have two charges and 4 batteries so if I need to go without power , even if not a 100% match for the oem power, it is still damn cheap.
I also got one of these from ebay.
I got the 2x 1500mah batteries + Battery Charger combo.
I must say I am impressed. They are the same quality as my OEM battery. Its so convenient. I never have to run to a charger anymore. Just keep the spare battery in my car or wherever and just pop it in and carry on with my daily business.
When I get home, I just re-charge all the batteries. The Battery Charger even has an LED Light that tells you when its finished. "RED: while charging" and "BLUE: when finished". Charging takes about roughly 3 hours, (just like OEM).
Edit: Been using this for about a month so far. With no problems.. Its the best feeling. My phone is never plugged in anymore. And, I don't have to "pinch the settings" to make my phone last.
IE. lowering brightness to 10%, turning sync off, turning wireless networks off, etc.
HIGHLY RECOMMEND!
only crappy thing is??? I plan to sell this phone soon, when the Galaxy S 2 comes out, if the specs are good enough.
fluidd said:
I also got one of these from ebay.
I got the 2x 1500mah batteries + Battery Charger combo.
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Would you mind posting the link or giving us the name of the exact vendor you ordered from?... I'm about to order the 2xbatteries and charger combo, but just want to make sure I get batteries that are half way decent. When I search on eBay I get about 20 vendors selling similar combos and given that in HK they're celebrating Chinese New Year... most won't fulfill orders until next week.
i wouldnt waste your money unless you just want an extra.
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SEIDIO 3000mAh 3.7v
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@ Amazon, comes with new battery cover
Works like a dream $56.00
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HELL NO i'm not spending $56 on a battery
(Personal opinion here, of course.)
I don't care about battery life. The battery on the Galaxy Nexus is removable. When my phone is dead, I swap out my battery for another one. Two batteries gets me through ANY day, regardless of usage patterns. Batteries are small and fit in men's and women's pockets easily. They fit in glove boxes, desk drawers, etc. They're portable, lightweight, compact, etc. You can take them almost anywhere.
I purchased the Samsung battery charger kit and haven't looked back. Instead of charging my phone and feeling tethered to my charger all day, I use my phone however I want and swap batteries in/out as I need to, and I only charge my phone overnight while sleeping now. The rest of the time, I only charge my batteries through the charging kit.
All these threads on battery calibration, battery life, etc. just seem unwarranted to me. I'm used to toting a charger around with me, so now I just bring my battery kit (usually it sits in my car, not needed) and if my battery dies, I swap in a fresh one and charge the spare with the kit. This way, I can have my phone on me all the time without worry. If I have no nearby electric outlet I can still take along the extra battery and charge both batteries later. I actually have 3 batteries, if I need them (I can't imagine ever using all 3 in a day).
I don't even use the extended battery. Why fatten up my phone, even if only by a little, if I don't need to do so?
This is food for thought, that's all. Does anyone else just use spare batteries and no longer worry (or even obsess, as I used to do with my Thunderbolt) over squeezing out every drop of battery life? To me, life is easier and better this way.
There's a name for the feeling of not being tethered to your charger all day. I call it freedom. It's awesome.
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I see where you are coming from.. What do you think of the battery cover? Is it difficult to work with when swapping batteries and will it last with such frequent use? How do you make sure that your spare battery is always ready (I guess you must be in the habit of always putting it on a charger)?
The battery cover is easy to remove. I ordered two spares when I ordered my battery kit (door covers are only $3 each) in case they wear out over time, which I doubt will happen. Many days I don't even swap batteries, as my phone typically lasts 10-12 hours on the regular battery anyway. I do charge my phone in the car (why not? my phone would just sit there otherwise) which is ~30-45 minutes a day, enough for an extra 20% charge mid-day which helps my battery hit the 10+ hour mark. And if it doesn't, I just swap for a new battery.
The spare is always ready because I always keep it in the charger kit so I can grab it when I'm in need. The kit has a light which turns green when the spare battery is charged to 100%. The light is red otherwise. It's quite handy.
At night I plug in both my phone and the charger kit using the Y cable charger that comes with the kit (allows 2 devices to charge simultaneously on one charger). In the morning, I have my phone and spare, both ready to go.
May I also say, I've impressed a few of my iPhone-using friends with my spare charger kit. They always say "I wish I could do that, but I don't have a removable battery." I lol every time (silently to myself...)
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I completely agree. That and who is really not near a charger ever all day? Maybe a few but hey that's what changeable batteries is for.
I see nothing wrong with improving what we have with calibration and optimization though...
Lol sounds like you are super jaded from using a thunderbolt.
IMHO your logic is flawed. Why not get good battery life on one or two batteries rather than mediocre battery life on two batteries.
You shouldn't have to carry around two batts just to get usability out of our device. Two batteries is for when you demand extra from your device.
Like when I went to New York I carried two batteries for my BB9700. Not because it was a battery hog but because I was GPSing and texting all day and didn't want to be stranded with a dead battery. I ended up using both batteries several times skipping charging both of them one night.
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edit: I get great battery life on this phone btw. I love it and am very happy with its performance.
I do the same thing. Have the extra battery with wall charger and just throw the spare in my pocket if I go anywhere. Like the OP stated I would much rather swap out the battery (if/when needed) and be able to use my phone like I want than worry about trying to conserve it all day.
I haven't had any problems with the battery cover and even if it did I can buy a new one from VZW for $3.25 with my discount ($4.99 retail) so it is a nonissue.
I honestly don't know why so few people do this. And I very rarely even end up using the spare battery, I just like knowing I have it if needed.
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Lithoss said:
I completely agree. That and who is really not near a charger ever all day? Maybe a few but hey that's what changeable batteries is for.
I see nothing wrong with improving what we have with calibration and optimization though...
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Agreed. I read that stuff to be informed, but no longer out of a crazy desire to extend my battery life because I can't live without doing otherwise. It's a nice change.
Again, I'm not saying anyone else has to or should do this. But it makes so much sense to me, and I like to share what works for me to help others who are looking for other options regarding battery life.
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sishgupta said:
Lol sounds like you are super jaded from using a thunderbolt.
IMHO your logic is flawed. Why not get good battery life on one or two batteries rather than mediocre battery life on two batteries.
You shouldn't have to carry around two batts just to get usability out of our device. Two batteries is for when you demand extra from your device.
Like when I went to New York I carried two batteries for my BB9700. Not because it was a battery hog but because I was GPSing and texting all day and didn't want to be stranded with a dead battery. I ended up using both batteries several times skipping charging both of them one night.
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edit: I get great battery life on this phone btw. I love it and am very happy with its performance.
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I'm a realistic type of guy. What I want from my phone and what I get from my phone are two different things. To believe they are the same is literally delusional, by definition. To complain about X Y or Z company not providing me with what I want is also a bit irrational if I know that, given today's technology's limitations, what I want might be asking a bit too much. We must work with what we have. I have spare batteries. I use them, liberally if I need to, and I don't mind doing so.
I don't expect a 4G phone to last all day while I play WWF, browse the web, text constantly, check and compose emails, take photos, transfer data, and make phone calls. To get 3-4 hours of screen on time on one battery is great (to me).
I think carrying an extra battery is being more responsible on my end for my own admitted usage of the phone, rather than complaining that the battery life "sucks" or hacking my phone to get an extra 20% battery life (although I'm not against this at all - it's just more work overall). Instead of blaming Verizon, Google, and/or Samsung, I'm taking ownership of the fact that I use my phone quite a lot, and I'm fine with carrying an extra battery or two. Instead of blaming others for the battery life of my own phone, I take responsibility for it and I provide my own solution. If anything, I'm speaking of personal responsibility. And in said responsibility I've found freedom from the dreaded phone charger. Again, it's a nice freedom to have.
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I agree completely with the OP. A second OEM battery and quality wall dock charger are my second accessory purchase with any of my smart phones. The first being a good case.
Having a 2nd or 3rd (or 4th!) battery and/or a charger around shouldn't be a requirement for using your device throughout the day. Sure if you use your phone hard then you're going to be used to having a charger nearby, but it shouldn't be a req if you're a normal user.
I don't think its unreasonable to expect a normal (12 hours) days use out of a device. FWIW most people are getting that (especially GSM users), and I don't think the battery issues are as widespread as people seem to think. There are "omg batterylife" threads in every new device forum.
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I don't think its unreasonable to expect a normal (12 hours) days use out of a device. FWIW most people are getting that (especially GSM users)
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For sure, I'm happy with this phones battery life (WAY better than the EVO 3D) but I like having the extra charged battery on hand for when I'm traveling.
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I completely agree. That and who is really not near a charger ever all day? Maybe a few but hey that's what changeable batteries is for.
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I often go a full day without seeing a charger. Sure I could carry one around and hunt for outlets throughout the day, but I don't think that should be a concern. Just want the phone to be reliable.
For what it's worth, I bought an external charger a couple phones back. Just plug in via USB to the phone if it's running low. Really useful when I'm on the train, for example, and I tether wifi for my Xoom. Gets me through the day in a pinch and I don't have to buy a new one with every phone (though I might buy a larger one now given the Galaxy Nexus' bigger battery).
Also, I usually plug the phone in while at my desk and always charge overnight. But I use the hell out of my phone
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I have to agree with Martonikaj I'm afraid. Its a phone, just because you CAN swap out the batteries doesn't mean you should HAVE to to get reasonable usage life.
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I disagree with the OP for having 2nd, 3rd batteries in order to use it properly based on user usage pattern.
First, define your usage pattern then try to optimize the battery to support that.
My usage pattern requires to have at least 3 and a half our screen time, and charge the phone once every two days, before I went to sleep (or during the night).
And this phone battery can do that without any problem ...
So, I don't need second battery ... and I am ordering the 2000mAH extended battery for GSM model. Having extra 250mAH is nice, it's a bonus for additional 30 minutes screen time! ... while still having the same look and thin device profile
Hey guys can someone recommend a good place to buy a second battery and charger if needed? Is it worth getting the extended battery and do I need to buy a different back cover if I purchase one? I am in Australia so was thinking eBay might be my best bet? Cheers
I do the same as the OP. I have three batteries that I rotate through. The OEM Samsung battery that came with the phone and two 1900mah batteries that I bought from eBay (which aren't too bad by the way) . I don't ever have to plug in my phone anymore because most of the time I have two fully charged batteries ready to go. I get on average between 12-15 hours on a single charge as it is with pretty good use, so I'm not worried about my phone dying, its just more convenient.
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Joshaldo said:
Hey guys can someone recommend a good place to buy a second battery and charger if needed? Is it worth getting the extended battery and do I need to buy a different back cover if I purchase one? I am in Australia so was thinking eBay might be my best bet? Cheers
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What about if there is going to be an official larger battery for it?
Just bought two off of eBay for $11, bargain. Hopefully they will do the job. Can keep one in the car and one at work, I should never run out of battery
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What about if there is going to be an official larger battery for it?
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I am pretty sure i saw an official Samsung extended battery 3000mah with battery door cover on eBay for the GSM version . I think it was around $35-$40.
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I just bought this phone and am thinking about keeping it long term (beyond two years) and am thinking of buying a battery now in case I'd like to replace it later on in life. It just seems like finding batteries now would be easier than a couple of years from now.
Anyone know where to find an OEM 3000mah battery?
Lithium Batteries need to be recharged regularly, if you put it in a drawer for a few years without charging you're in for a nasty surprise once you build it into your phone.
You ought to be really sure if you plan to replace this device's battery one day...
I mean, the whole disassembly process is a pain in the ass. I just recently f*cked the display trying to fix the buttons.
Why not invest in a good powerbank instead like Xiaomi's 10k Mah?
Use it to prolong your phone battery by not letting it drop too low and thus saving your phone battery from degrading faster
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kkn14 said:
Why not invest in a good powerbank instead like Xiaomi's 10k Mah?
Use it to prolong your phone battery by not letting it drop too low and thus saving your phone battery from degrading faster
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Have you guys heard about Motorola now supplying repair kits and parts? pretty awesome.
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Have you guys heard about Motorola now supplying repair kits and parts? pretty awesome.
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Yea, I heard Moto is giving iFixit some OEM replacement parts to sell to customers. Cool.
kkn14 said:
Why not invest in a good powerbank instead like Xiaomi's 10k Mah?
Use it to prolong your phone battery by not letting it drop too low and thus saving your phone battery from degrading faster
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Actually after 30 charges, you should pretty much let your battery drain before charging.
How about buying battery from iFixit?
i bought one with a bad esn from ebay for parts.
Is it morally reprehensible? probably.
Do i care? no
I usually do this for every phone i've ever owned for any real amount of time.
It would be useful if people stumbling upon this thread mention their country in the thread so that people who know the process and source can help better
I've been reading some great things about LG V20 batteries such as the "Perfine 4100mAh" and the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" mainly, not only because of the great battery improvement, but because it seems you don't have to sacrifice the original battery cover since the batteries might just fit without getting an extended battery cover. On the other hand, they seem to be Lithium Polymer batteries. I have the bad habit of leaving my LG V20 charging overnight as I always lose a good 8% battery life during the night if I don't. I've never had a problem with the OEM battery in terms of overheating or anything of that sort when leaving it charging.
Does anybody who has a Lithium Polymer battery on their LG V20 leave their phones charging overnight? I've heard it's a no-no with Lithium Polymer batteries, but they're definitely the future in terms of giving new life to the LG V20. I just want to know what to look for as it's not necessary and smart I'm sure to leave the phone charging for too long; however, that's what some people do.
Are those batteries a great improvement over a regular Lithium-Ion battery based on experience?
I have been using these batteries since last December, and when it comes to charging and heat, I haven't noticed anything that's different from the OEM batteries.
While I don't remember ever charging my phone overnight (my battery level doesn't get low until past the middle of the second day, and I mostly just swap batteries), I have charged the battery in the OEM external charger overnight several times before (you could do it outdoors first if you're scared), and it acted just like any other battery in there: the light turns green when charging is complete, and the heat stops.
As for how much better than the OEM batteries they are in terms of battery life, it's a significant step up. Plenty of people (including myself) have reported their findings on the V20 Subreddit.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the modern phones actually have these types of batteries inside them.
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I have been using these batteries since last December, and when it comes to charging and heat, I haven't noticed anything that's different from the OEM batteries.
While I don't remember ever charging my phone overnight (my battery level doesn't get low until past the middle of the second day, and I mostly just swap batteries), I have charged the battery in the OEM external charger overnight several times before (you could do it outdoors first if you're scared), and it acted just like any other battery in there: the light turns green when charging is complete, and the heat stops.
As for how much better than the OEM batteries they are in terms of battery life, it's a significant step up. Plenty of people (including myself) have reported their findings on the V20 Subreddit.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the modern phones actually have these types of batteries inside them.
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Okay, thanks for the feedback. I can barely make it through a day with moderate to low usage on my OEM battery. The question would be if the LG V20's charging effectiveness is just as good/effective as an external charger; I would assume the answer is yes. I can't imagine an external battery charger being smarter than a smart phone, but who knows. I would like to do what you do in terms of swapping batteries instead of charging the battery directly from my phone, but my phone case is annoying as heck to remove, and I drop everything so I really need a case at all times.
Any battery recommendations? or are the "Perfine 4100mAh" and the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" some good options like people say. Thanks again.
I actually use an Otterbox Defender as a case if you can believe that, although several plastic clips of the inner layer have broken off, so it's not hard at all to take apart nowadays.
I think all of those batteries should be pretty similar to each other (some of them could even come from the same source). I use the ones from MaxxxJuice which just happened to be the only ones available back in December. The one unique thing about these batteries is that they come with Samsung-branded plastic cases. The Perfine seems to be the most popular due to its cheaper price, but some people reported it being a tighter fit which led to some peeling off its brand sticker to make it fit. If you follow the Subreddit link above, you'll see my old thread on the MaxxxJuice batteries, and I put up some Amazon U.S. links to the other battery brands in there.
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I actually use an Otterbox Defender as a case if you can believe that, although several plastic clips of the inner layer have broken off, so it's not hard at all to take apart nowadays.
I think all of those batteries should be pretty similar to each other (some of them could even come from the same source). I use the ones from MaxxxJuice which just happened to be the only ones available back in December. The one unique thing about these batteries is that they come with Samsung-branded plastic cases. The Perfine seems to be the most popular due to its cheaper price, but some people reported it being a tighter fit which led to some peeling off its brand sticker to make it fit. If you follow the Subreddit link above, you'll see my old thread on the MaxxxJuice batteries, and I put up some Amazon U.S. links to the other battery brands in there.
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Thanks for everything. I think I'm going to give the MaxxxJuice batteries a go. I'll probably just order a pair and see how it goes. By all the reading I've been doing on that reddit link you pointed me to, it seems that the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" seems to be a better fit on the LG V20; however, the "Perfine 4100mAh" although being capable of holding just about the same capacity as the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" based on the reddit posts I read, seems to be a tighter fit around the fingerprint reader since it's a little thicker.
The MaxxxJuice battery seems to be the best of both worlds.
Merazomo said:
I've been reading some great things about LG V20 batteries such as the "Perfine 4100mAh" and the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" mainly, not only because of the great battery improvement, but because it seems you don't have to sacrifice the original battery cover since the batteries might just fit without getting an extended battery cover. On the other hand, they seem to be Lithium Polymer batteries. I have the bad habit of leaving my LG V20 charging overnight as I always lose a good 8% battery life during the night if I don't. I've never had a problem with the OEM battery in term of overheating or anything of that sort when leaving it charging.
Does anybody who has a Lithium Polymer battery on their LG V20 leave their phones charging overnight? I've heard it's a no-no with Lithium Polymer batteries, but they're definitely the future in terms of giving new life to the LG V20. I just want to know what to look for as it's not necessary and smart I'm sure to leave the phone charging for too long; however, that's what some people do.
Are those batteries a great improvement over a regular Lithium-Ion battery based on experience?
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I personally have never had an issue charging overnight. Once it reaches 100% it does a trickle charge, at least in the phone. Got the 4200 that was mentioned by CD. If you are rooted, I suggest the AKT mod. Helps alot for battery also. Best of the mods I have came across based for battery. However AKT is ment for 7.0 last I knew.
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I personally have never had an issue charging overnight. Once it reaches 100% it does a trickle charge, at least in the phone. Got the 4200 that was mentioned by CD. If you are rooted, I suggest the AKT mod. Helps alot for battery also. Best of the mods I have came across based for battery. However AKT is ment for 7.0 last I knew.
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Thanks. I'm rooted right now as I have the AT&T variant. The problem is that I'm on Oreo and learned to like it, and I plan on switching to Sprint very soon. As far as I know the Sprint variant can only be rooted if you're on Nougat but can never go back to stock once you root I believe. I wish there was a fully unlocked LG V20 like those iPhones and Galaxy phones that would also work with Sprint; the US996 has CDMA and GSM but won't work with Sprint either.
Just knowing that Lythium Polymer batteries also trickle charge is great for peace of mind though. Not that they're foolproof, but at least it's something.
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Thanks. I'm rooted right now as I have the AT&T variant. The problem is that I'm on Oreo and learned to like it, and I plan on switching to Sprint very soon. As far as I know the Sprint variant can only be rooted if you're on Nougat but can never go back to stock once you root I believe. I wish there was a fully unlocked LG V20 like those iPhones and Galaxy phones that would also work with Sprint; the US996 has CDMA and GSM but won't work with Sprint either.
Just knowing that Lythium Polymer batteries also trickle charge is great for peace of mind though. Not that they're foolproof, but at least it's something.
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A rootable Sprint V20 is very hard to find nowadays. It has to be on a security patch level date of May 1, 2017 (software version LS997ZV7) or earlier. So not only does it have to be on Nougat, but also on an older, earlier security update of it. Curiously enough, both Mysticblaze347 and I happen to be using this type of Sprint variant.
There is an older thread somewhere about going back to stock on the LS997 after root, so it is possible, but I'd say a rooted V20 stuck on stock Nougat still beats an unrooted one on stock Oreo by a mile, and you still have the option to go with LineageOS.
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A rootable Sprint V20 is very hard to find nowadays. It has to be on a security patch level date of May 1, 2017 (software version LS997ZV7) or earlier. So not only does it have to be on Nougat, but also on an older, earlier security update of it. Curiously enough, both Mysticblaze347 and I happen to be using this type of Sprint variant.
There is an older thread somewhere about going back to stock on the LS997 after root, so it is possible, but I'd say a rooted V20 stuck on stock Nougat still beats an unrooted one on stock Oreo by a mile, and you still have the option to go with LineageOS.
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I see. In any case, I think it might just be easier to switch to a cheaper GSM carrier and keep my phone the way it is; rooted. Even if it's on Oreo, I don't mind since I've used Google's "night sight" for pictures and it's pretty amazing. I don't want to go back to an unrooted phone without a swappable battery honestly. It's that important for me since I don't care about having the newest fastest phone anyway. All I care about is buying a new battery every now and then, and giving new life to my phone. I also like keeping full physical TWRP backups of my entire device as well as a Titanium Backup copy of all my apps, so root is a must like you said.
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C D said:
I have been using these batteries since last December, and when it comes to charging and heat, I haven't noticed anything that's different from the OEM batteries.
While I don't remember ever charging my phone overnight (my battery level doesn't get low until past the middle of the second day, and I mostly just swap batteries), I have charged the battery in the OEM external charger overnight several times before (you could do it outdoors first if you're scared), and it acted just like any other battery in there: the light turns green when charging is complete, and the heat stops.
As for how much better than the OEM batteries they are in terms of battery life, it's a significant step up. Plenty of people (including myself) have reported their findings on the V20 Subreddit.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the modern phones actually have these types of batteries inside them.
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I'm with you on pretty much everything you said! I bought 2 Perfine batteries and they're fantastic! I made a point of fully charging them in the phone first and then running them through around 4 full cycles (letting them drop to 5-10% - what would people recommend - letting it fully discharge or charge at a certain percentage?) before I started to switch between them and use the external charger. I was so impressed that I've bought 4 MORE! I plan to keep 2 or 3 of those in reserve as no doubt, they'll become hard to find later on.
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...fully charging them in the phone first and then running them through around 4 full cycles (letting them drop to 5-10% - what would people recommend - letting it fully discharge or charge at a certain percentage?)...
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Generally, they say you should run down the battery until the phone automatically shuts off (on LG stock it happens the moment 2% goes to 1%), then keep it charged for a couple more hours after reaching 100%, and do this cycle 3 or 4 times overall.
I have attached pics of the instruction sheets from my two separate MaxxxJuice battery purchases (colored sheet is old one, black & white is revised one and has more writing on the back, shown in the second photo).
Higher quality pics from my old Subreddit thread here:
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Merazomo said:
I've been reading some great things about LG V20 batteries such as the "Perfine 4100mAh" and the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" mainly, not only because of the great battery improvement, but because it seems you don't have to sacrifice the original battery cover since the batteries might just fit without getting an extended battery cover. On the other hand, they seem to be Lithium Polymer batteries. I have the bad habit of leaving my LG V20 charging overnight as I always lose a good 8% battery life during the night if I don't. I've never had a problem with the OEM battery in term of overheating or anything of that sort when leaving it charging.
Does anybody who has a Lithium Polymer battery on their LG V20 leave their phones charging overnight? I've heard it's a no-no with Lithium Polymer batteries, but they're definitely the future in terms of giving new life to the LG V20. I just want to know what to look for as it's not necessary and smart I'm sure to leave the phone charging for too long; however, that's what some people do.
Are those batteries a great improvement over a regular Lithium-Ion battery based on experience?
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I leave mine charge overnight in my phone. It is always cool to the touch in the morning.
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I leave mine charge overnight in my phone. It is always cool to the touch in the morning.
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Good. It seems there should be no difference between the 2 battery types in terms of danger if I ever forget to unplug it at night. I ordered 2 maxxxjuice batteries yesterday. Hopefully I won't have to charge as often as I do now.
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After about a week of charging and discharging, setting and resetting AccuBattery Pro, I can see that at least for now the MaxxxJuice battery is the real deal. It is a tight fit and a marginal gap is felt around the fingerprint reader, I don't know how much better or worst it is compared to the "Perfine 4100mAh" and the "SHENMZ 4200mAh" batteries; however, it doesn't get in the way of the fingerprint reader function which was one of my main concerns. I'm very picky about those types of imperfections compared to the original design; however, the little gap is almost nonexistent as everything else is pretty much a stock fit.
As of 8/29/19, this battery still seems to be good. I don't know what the shelf life situation is like with that company, but as of 8/29/19 there is still life left for the LG V20.
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Generally, they say you should run down the battery until the phone automatically shuts off (on LG stock it happens the moment 2% goes to 1%), then keep it charged for a couple more hours after reaching 100%, and do this cycle 3 or 4 times overall.
I have attached pics of the instruction sheets from my two separate MaxxxJuice battery purchases (colored sheet is old one, black & white is revised one and has more writing on the back, shown in the second photo).
Higher quality pics from my old Subreddit thread here:
https://postimg.cc/wtC5w6Zm
https://postimg.cc/vxzW85Br
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been using the SHENMZ 4200mAh for 6 months or so. I charge it over night. normally I use 'battery charge limiter' app to stop charging @ 85%. but not always.
been working very well. kept my stock battery for a back up.
kaluna00 said:
been using the SHENMZ 4200mAh for 6 months or so. I charge it over night. normally I use 'battery charge limiter' app to stop charging @ 85%. but not always.
been working very well. kept my stock battery for a back up.
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I am using this same battery for almost a year. I usually can't kill it in a day, which I definitely could the stock batteries, but I still charge it all night almost every night, and it seems about as good as it was when I got it. I usually end the day at about 30 to 50% at 9:30 it 10pm.
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I'm also looking for a new battery in 2021. I didn't want to start a new thread since there seems to be quite a few out there. It's just my hypothesis, but seems like either the V20's hardware circuitry was inefficiently designed and has a leak and/or there is some proprietary things running in the background be it on the stock rom or in the firmware (telemetry is often there).
Whatever it is, I noticed that the V20 seems to drain even when powered off or on airplane mode, abnormally faster than other devices. I am running on the stock rom.
Lithium Ion and Lithium Polymer batteries usually have protection circuitry built in, but sometimes it's hard to trust that built in protection, especially from non-accredited 3rd party batteries.
Also, LG Chem used to be an amazing battery manufacturer (they still are in many regards, as long as they made it), but all the "OEM" LG batteries I see(including the ones mine came with) are made in China (LG is South Korean)... so I'm not sure if LG contracted(which they have done in the past) the batteries for the V20, or the factory in China is just not up to par with QC(Nothing wrong with the Chinese factory, just saying since it's not the original plant in Korea, things just aren't as set up as the original, etc.).
Any how, anyone have good success with an aftermarket battery? I looked at Shenmz's 4400mah(around there) battery and see lots of mixed reviews. But it would be great to hear from someone on here who might have some long term experience with the product... most product reviews are from people who only used it for a few weeks.
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I'm also looking for a new battery in 2021. I didn't want to start a new thread since there seems to be quite a few out there. It's just my hypothesis, but seems like either the V20's hardware circuitry was inefficiently designed and has a leak and/or there is some proprietary things running in the background be it on the stock rom or in the firmware (telemetry is often there).
Whatever it is, I noticed that the V20 seems to drain even when powered off or on airplane mode, abnormally faster than other devices. I am running on the stock rom.
Lithium Ion and Lithium Polymer batteries usually have protection circuitry built in, but sometimes it's hard to trust that built in protection, especially from non-accredited 3rd party batteries.
Also, LG Chem used to be an amazing battery manufacturer (they still are in many regards, as long as they made it), but all the "OEM" LG batteries I see(including the ones mine came with) are made in China (LG is South Korean)... so I'm not sure if LG contracted(which they have done in the past) the batteries for the V20, or the factory in China is just not up to par with QC(Nothing wrong with the Chinese factory, just saying since it's not the original plant in Korea, things just aren't as set up as the original, etc.).
Any how, anyone have good success with an aftermarket battery? I looked at Shenmz's 4400mah(around there) battery and see lots of mixed reviews. But it would be great to hear from someone on here who might have some long term experience with the product... most product reviews are from people who only used it for a few weeks.
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Shenmz is pretty much the best/ most trusted 3rd party battery you can get. The 5380's on ebay are ultra fake, 2300 is what they really are. I have a few Shenmz 4380's and they are legit.
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Shenmz is pretty much the best/ most trusted 3rd party battery you can get. The 5380's on ebay are ultra fake, 2300 is what they really are. I have a few Shenmz 4380's and they are legit.
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Thanks for the feedback. Out of Curiosity, where did you purchase your Shenmz from? Ebay as well?
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Thanks for the feedback. Out of Curiosity, where did you purchase your Shenmz from? Ebay as well?
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Yeah...only real few brands on ebay
Got 2 new batteries and I want to keep them for a while, so I have a few questions:
1. Is the OEM fast-charge charger and cable okay to use every day, or will it degrade the battery faster than a slower/regular speed charger/cable?
2. Since I have 2 batteries now, which is the best way to charge them both up? charge 1 in the phone, then swap and charge the other in the phone? Or buy a battery charger (and if so, which one)?
3. Any other helps regarding the chargers and/or cables?Thank you for your help.
Faster charging will always generate more heat and put more stress on the battery, so slower charging would be better for a battery's lifespan, but I don't think you'll see a huge difference within two years.
By far the fastest way to keep going is having the second battery charged in an external battery charger and then swap when the other battery gets low, followed by charging the low battery in the external charger. Doing it this way also puts the least wear-and-tear on the phone's charging port since you'll rarely use it. I use LG's OEM external battery charging cradle (BCK-5200), but it may be hard to find nowadays. There's currently a used one up for sale in an auction by an American seller on eBay, and there are new ones from a South Korean seller for a higher fixed price. I wouldn't pay more than $25 for one. As for charging time, for me, it takes about 4 hours to charge my MaxxxJuice 4100 mAh batteries from ~5–10% to full. External chargers do not fast-charge, so you'll never put too much stress on the battery that way. Of course, swapping may not be for everyone as it may be inconvenient to take a case off and put it back on.
Unlike the older microUSB cables, bad USB Type-C cables that are not built to certain specifications can draw higher currents and destroy the devices they are charging. A few years ago, a Google engineer reviewed lots of USB-C cables on Amazon to give his view on those. If you need a third-party cable, make sure you get one from a reputable source with good reviews. My preferred USB cable is Anker's Powerline+ due to their extra strength/thickness, and I don't need much flexibility/twistability in my cables. Also, I like how the USB-C end connector is made of one single piece where you don't see any connecting lines around the middle (you can see an example here).
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As long as there is a supply of extra batteries around and you can afford to buy them when the time comes, then you shouldn't worry much about how you charge your phone. In my opinion, that is one of the main selling points of having a hand-removable battery. I imagine a paranoid person on a phone with a sealed battery would be trying to keep the battery level between 40 and 80% at all times. So really, the only thing to worry about is having a decent USB-C cable and making sure the phone's charging port is clean and not worn out.
In case you are really interested on my detailed charging habits and related things on my V20, I discussed them while reviewing my batteries a while back on the V20 Subreddit.
Thanks!
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Faster charging will always generate more heat and put more stress on the battery, so slower charging would be better for a battery's lifespan, but I don't think you'll see a huge difference within two years.
By far the fastest way to keep going is having the second battery charged in an external battery charger and then swap when the other battery gets low, followed by charging the low battery in the external charger. Doing it this way also puts the least wear-and-tear on the phone's charging port since you'll rarely use it. I use LG's OEM external battery charging cradle (BCK-5200), but it may be hard to find nowadays. There's currently a used one up for sale in an auction by an American seller on eBay, and there are new ones from a South Korean seller for a higher fixed price. I wouldn't pay more than $25 for one. As for charging time, for me, it takes about 4 hours to charge my MaxxxJuice 4100 mAh batteries from ~5–10% to full. External chargers do not fast-charge, so you'll never put too much stress on the battery that way. Of course, swapping may not be for everyone as it may be inconvenient to take a case off and put it back on.
Unlike the older microUSB cables, bad USB Type-C cables that are not built to certain specifications can draw higher currents and destroy the devices they are charging. A few years ago, a Google engineer reviewed lots of USB-C cables on Amazon to give his view on those. If you need a third-party cable, make sure you get one from a reputable source with good reviews. My preferred USB cable is Anker's Powerline+ due to their extra strength/thickness, and I don't need much flexibility/twistability in my cables. Also, I like how the USB-C end connector is made of one single piece where you don't see any connecting lines around the middle (you can see an example here).
Other thoughts:
As long as there is a supply of extra batteries around and you can afford to buy them when the time comes, then you shouldn't worry much about how you charge your phone. In my opinion, that is one of the main selling points of having a hand-removable battery. I imagine a paranoid person on a phone with a sealed battery would be trying to keep the battery level between 40 and 80% at all times. So really, the only thing to worry about is having a decent USB-C cable and making sure the phone's charging port is clean and not worn out.
In case you are really interested on my detailed charging habits and related things on my V20, I discussed them while reviewing my batteries a while back on the V20 Subreddit.
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On that Subreddit, you mentioned you cycled a couple batteries. Did you have to do the whole fully charge and fully drain thing each time you switched to the new battery, or just when you first bought the batteries?
Would like to know the answer to ^this^ as well.
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On that Subreddit, you mentioned you cycled a couple batteries. Did you have to do the whole fully charge and fully drain thing each time you switched to the new battery, or just when you first bought the batteries?
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Would like to know the answer to ^this^ as well.
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No, I only did the full cycle with the first battery three times, and that was it. The only reason to do that is for the Android software of the phone to get a better sense of your battery level. Of course, it won't be as accurate the longer you go swapping between batteries as undoubtedly they will differ a bit in capacity over time. But fully running down and then fully charging a battery isn't good for its lifespan if you do it too often. The only other times you'd have to really repeat the calibration is when switching to a battery with a different capacity or switching ROMs / doing a factory reset.
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No, I only did the full cycle with the first battery three times, and that was it. The only reason to do that is for the Android software of the phone to get a better sense of your battery level. Of course, it won't be as accurate the longer you go swapping between batteries as undoubtedly they will differ a bit in capacity over time. But fully running down and then fully charging a battery isn't good for its lifespan if you do it too often. The only other times you'd have to really repeat the calibration is when switching to a battery with a different capacity or switching ROMs / doing a factory reset.
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So, I got a 4000 Powerbear that I'm calibrating now.
I'm also getting a 4100 Perfine.
Are they close enough that I shouldn't have to recalibrate for the 4100?
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So, I got a 4000 Powerbear that I'm calibrating now.
I'm also getting a 4100 Perfine.
Are they close enough that I shouldn't have to recalibrate for the 4100?
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Most likely yes. I imagine most of these 4000–4300 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that started popping up this year are very similar, and some may just be rebranded from the same common factory source. Barring a defective battery, if the two batteries had a significant difference in capacity, you could see things like early shutdowns on the smaller capacity one or being stuck at a low percentage for an unusually long amount of time on the larger capacity one.
Great info.
So it looks like all other batteries on hand should not be put into rotation with the higher capacity batteries to avoid inaccurate readings in Android.
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Great info.
So it looks like all other batteries on hand should not be put into rotation with the higher capacity batteries to avoid inaccurate readings in Android.
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Pretty much this. I suppose one could try keeping separate copies of the batterystats.bin file from /data/system when rooted and swap them alongside the different batteries. But that sounds like too much of a pain to deal with, even if it works.
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Most likely yes. I imagine most of these 4000–4300 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that started popping up this year are very similar, and some may just be rebranded from the same common factory source. Barring a defective battery, if the two batteries had a significant difference in capacity, you could see things like early shutdowns on the smaller capacity one or being stuck at a low percentage for an unusually long amount of time on the larger capacity one.
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Great info.
So it looks like all other batteries on hand should not be put into rotation with the higher capacity batteries to avoid inaccurate readings in Android.
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Pretty much this. I suppose one could try keeping separate copies of the batterystats.bin file from /data/system when rooted and swap them alongside the different batteries. But that sounds like too much of a pain to deal with, even if it works.
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Just to add to this, I found your pics @C D for the charging instructions and there's a note about using 3200mah batteries along with the 4100mah batteries.
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Just to add to this, I found your pics @C D for the charging instructions and there's a note about using 3200mah batteries along with the 4100mah batteries.
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Does that mean that if you switch between the batteries, they'll both last as long as they should (the 4100 longer time than the orig. 3200), but the system's percent will be wrong?
My understanding is that if you calibrate the phone to recognize the full 4100mah and then use a 3200mah battery, it will shut down early (but still use the full 3200mah).
Correct. They are warning you that swapping between batteries of significantly different capacities will throw off the accuracy of the phone's battery percentage indicator at all times, especially at the high and low percent values (so an early shutdown can happen when the smaller capacity battery is used). Of course, this won't affect either battery's true capacity.
I'd pay good money for a system that can correctly handle different battery capacities of any amount, but we all know where the future of hand-removable batteries has been heading for the last 3–4 years.
Does anyone charge their phone ONLY to 80 % or so?
If so, what apps do you use to limit this? Any other tips/advice?
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Does anyone charge their phone ONLY to 80 % or so?
If so, what apps do you use to limit this? Any other tips/advice?
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I use AccuBattery and it has a notification sound that plays when you hit the target charge percentage, but it's still up to you to remove the phone from the charger or else it continues charging to 100%.
Since our phones have replaceable batteries, I haven't made any special effort to take care of them. I have a pair of May '17 OEM 3200 mAh batteries that are going to get switched out for a pair of new 4100+ mAh Li-Po batteries once I get my second V20 set up. Every charger I use is QuickCharge 3.0 certified except for USB on my PCs and my Pioneer Android Auto headunit USB connection in one car. The vast majority of the time, I charge via QC 3.0. Pretty much the only time I let the battery charge via PC USB is when I actually need to transfer files between the phone and computer.
Before my phone started having issues in the past month with a phantom power drain, I would let the phone charge from 30-40% to 80-90% and then remove it from the charger at night before going to sleep. In the last half year as the batteries have aged, I've let it get up to between 90-95% before unplugging. For the past month, I've been charging the phone four times a day from 40-100% to combat the power drain issue, but that comes with knowing that I don't care about these old batteries or the state of the firmware on this first V20 anymore.
As for when I swapped the two batteries I have, that entirely depended on when I actually ran one down so far that I needed a 0-100% battery swap, which could be months at a time and usually happened while on vacation or away from a charging source for a longer period of time than what my usual home/car/work routine allows.