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android or iphone based rom for the vogue?

why doesn't anybody consider making a android based rom for the touch vogue? heck id even be up for a iphone cloned based rom, we need something different! the problem with most iphone themes are that they just mask windows, what we need is a true overall, complete system theme!
anybody up for the challenge?

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android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that

theoneownz said:
android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
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yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
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If it's so easy, why don't you do it
It's very difficult to do... nobody has figured out how yet.

i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root

Android is linux...
jnrbshp said:
i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
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Let Me start of By saying you have a great idea.. you probably know that android was developed by Google, Microsoft's current largest competitor. Las Week Google Announced That Th Chromium Project is working out so greatly that they plan on makeing a full on desktop replacement operating system based on the linux kernel. Currently The Only Other Operating System Google Has Made Is andriod, No let me explain why this is hard to set up on our phones. The Manufactuer Prudoced a ROM with a windows CE bootloader using thwe files NK.exe. for the boot process, for more info on this process google windows CE boot process. however the entire process is difrent in linux. In linux instead of having NK (CE loader) as part of the windows OS we have a seprate program called a bootloader, the two mos common ones are the LILO or LInux LOader and the GRUB or GRand Unified Boot loader niter of wich anyone knows how to get the HTC phone to recoginse without an external windows CE aplication. Running The Application Is The Abutal Process Of The Bootloader, The COnfigration file is simalar to the windows XP boot.ini. esentialy your copy of android is just another application.
To ths date no one has be able to figure out how to create a rom that can edit the factory bootloadre to male it use GRUB or LILO, however if you wanted to chose one or the other i'd develop it to run a mobile version of GRUB bcause then you can dual boot windows mobile as if you were on a PC .
hope this answered your questions as to why an android ROM isn't out there yet.
Honestly, if there was a version of android and chrome i would switch all my devices over to Google Linux right now, i'm tired of the microsoft way of computing, paying another $150 every two to five years.

in theory you can have both andriod and iphone
android is open source, you should be able to use it as a base foundation and skin it with an iphone interface

Android Development ?

I want to create my own android system. What tools do I need for that? What links for vehicles.
Thanks

Do not share one tools?

Perhaps you should ask this in one of the different android topics??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498
Maybe they can help you, or try the search function?

Android source is here:
http://source.android.com/download

GT-I9000 development limitations without Windows?

Hello
I've been trying to figure out (by googling a *lot*) what the limitations are for non-Windows developers with the GT-I9000. Samsung's SDK is Windows only, but maybe it's not the end of the road?
Some concrete questions:
* Do you need Windows to get an adb session?
* Do you need Windows to root the device?
* Do you need Windows to cross compile native code?
* Does the stock Android SDK from Google work?
* What do you actually loose without Samsung's SDK? E.g. the BONDI API's?
I really want to buy this shiny monster, but I also *never* again want to suffer Windows, and especially not for development.
Best regards / Klas

AFAIK there is no "Samsung SDK"
check this http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
the sdk is available for windows, osx & linux
hope this helps

My mistake, it's called "Bada SDK". And at least for the GT-I9000 it's for Windows only. Apparently the Bada Linux platform includes support for some novelty API's such as BONDI (to access e.g. device file system from web apps) and these have no support in the regular Android SDK.
I can live without these device specific API's, I just don't want to have to use the Bada SDK to do anything *else*.

Google's SDK is eclipse based and is available for windows, linux and osx like stated above. I'm running it in 64 bit ubuntu (lucid lynx) and have little problems doing so.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

How about just running Windows in VirtualBox for the neccessary parts.

Darkstriker said:
How about just running Windows in VirtualBox for the neccessary parts.
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I had much problems with trying this under mac os x.
VMware and VirtualBox dont show the i9000 as USB-Device...

My experiences with connecting USB devices to virtualized environments are also poor. Not that it matters much: I am curious what development capabilities you *loose* if you can't/won't use Windows -- not how to run the Bada SDK in a virtualized environment. No one seems to be overly concerned about this (a good sign so I'll go ahead and order the phone.

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My mistake, it's called "Bada SDK". And at least for the GT-I9000 it's for Windows only. Apparently the Bada Linux platform includes support for some novelty API's such as BONDI (to access e.g. device file system from web apps) and these have no support in the regular Android SDK.
I can live without these device specific API's, I just don't want to have to use the Bada SDK to do anything *else*.
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You don't need the Bada SDK at all, because Bada is a different platform used on other Samsung phones like the Samsung Wave S8500. It's not Android or related to Android, other than both (potentially, in Bada's case) being based on Linux.

the galaxy is running android os from google - the wave is running the bada os from samsung.
as such i think the OP has confused the above fact and thinks the galaxy is running bada hence referring to a "samsung sdk". galaxy s GT-I9000 runs google android, for which google has released a multi platform SDK

The poster may need to be aware that the descriptor for usb detection is broken for it currently, and has been for a little while. It's not really plug and go.
You'll need to follow the usual instructions to setup your android dev, then possibly compile a adb with support for the galaxy s. I hope I can be proven wrong for that though.

Superroach said:
The poster may need to be aware that the descriptor for usb detection is broken for it currently, and has been for a little while. It's not really plug and go.
You'll need to follow the usual instructions to setup your android dev, then possibly compile a adb with support for the galaxy s. I hope I can be proven wrong for that though.
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Compile abd, why? The old sdk does not see galaxy S but the latest one does. And if you have problems on linux with adb not seeing your phone try running adb with root user.

Thank you guys.
I havn't checked again, but I was under the impression that Bada is the underpinning of Android on I9000.
The only thing left to understand about the vendor's platforms underneath Android is why Google didn't set it all up with Debian packages. A common repo could keep vendor specific variants of components neatly isolated; Isolated and distributable without the fuss of trying to figure out what is compatible with what. I just want to run something like
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apt-get install android-gti9000-dev android-sdk --rootdir=$MY_CHOICE
on my workstation and have the SDK, device sources, other host tools, and IDE plugins installed to some working directory of my choice. That would be great

Ubuntu for Ascend P6

I notice Canonical's Ubuntu operating system is being developed to run on devices which currently run android:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
And would seem a new "experimental snapshot" of the software has been released for development and evaluation.
The link below contains the download and all instructions needed to flash a device with the software, and I was wondering if anyone with more insight into the subject than myself could advise whether we can expect to see Ubuntu come to the P6 soon or not?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
It looks promising to me...

0robreid0 said:
I notice Canonical's Ubuntu operating system is being developed to run on devices which currently run android:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
And would seem a new "experimental snapshot" of the software has been released for development and evaluation.
The link below contains the download and all instructions needed to flash a device with the software, and I was wondering if anyone with more insight into the subject than myself could advise whether we can expect to see Ubuntu come to the P6 soon or not?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
It looks promising to me...
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Our device doesn't have kernel which can support " device loop " . If have smone can build kernel with that function. We can run uBuntu or other backtrack, kali linux etc with linux deploy or linux installer complete.
Sry poor english.

Can anyone make a port?
There is a Guide on how to do it so can anyone?
Would be great!!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting

Windows 10 build 15035 for Surface RT

Windows 10 compiled for the original Surface RT devices has leaked.
Source: BetaWiki
It would be super cool if this community managed to create a working image for the OG RTs (de-bombed & with correct drivers). Anybody here who could share the leaked image with us?

Avonlady said:
Windows 10 compiled for the original Surface RT devices has leaked.
Source: BetaWiki
It would be super cool if this community managed to create a working image for the OG RTs (de-bombed & with correct drivers). Anybody here who could share the leaked image with us?
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Well, it hasn't exactly leaked yet. Do you have the actual file? I can add the correct drivers and remove the timebomb if I can get my hands on it

Unfortunately no, I don't have access to BetaArchive's FTP. But I would be shocked if nobody on this forum had... Fingers crossed it gets reuploaded soon.

Avonlady said:
Unfortunately no, I don't have access to BetaArchive's FTP. But I would be shocked if nobody on this forum had... Fingers crossed it gets reuploaded soon.
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Another thing we need to find out, does it require configuration to boot? Or is it just a bootable install image?

Well I manage to get the file. Its not iso its a zip. But I have honestly not Idea what to do with it, and I try in all inventive ways, LOL!. I could make a torrent file if any its interested on. With the compromise on do a tutorial later if some one manage to do anything with it.

Qiangong2 said:
Well, it hasn't exactly leaked yet. Do you have the actual file? I can add the correct drivers and remove the timebomb if I can get my hands on it
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To benefit the community and have more people working on this, Did you think you could do some quick howto on doing this. Or point us on the right learning path! Im so eager to learn this stuff!

hackinc2000 said:
To benefit the community and have more people working on this, Did you think you could do some quick howto on doing this. Or point us on the right learning path! Im so eager to learn this stuff!
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In the end, I won't know how exactly to fix the timebomb unless I can see the file itself. Replacing the drivers are just as easy as copy paste into the wim file.

Qiangong2 said:
In the end, I won't know how exactly to fix the timebomb unless I can see the file itself. Replacing the drivers are just as easy as copy paste into the wim file.
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PM you in a moment!

I've been trying to get this running on Surface 2, the way I've been trying with this is a dual boot with RT 8.1 and I've partitioned my device to allow roughly 12GB for the Windows 10 installation.
Unfortunately there is an issue with nvpep causing a BSOD that is beyond my abilities to solve, without nvpep nothing else will work. I don't have a Surface RT to test with but I read that this issue does not manifest on those devices, however it still won't work out of the box.
I've pieced together some information that might be of help if your trying to install that applies to RT and 2.
Make sure secureboot debug policy is applied and don't forget to enable testsigning and nointegritychecks. If you have Jailbreak killing updates installed its probably faster to factory reset your device.
You will need to replace sdbus.sys and ststor.sys in \Windows\system32\drivers\ with versions from RT 8.1.
You will need to edit the registry on build 15035 to disable UAC - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System - EnableLUA set value to 0.
Before booting 15035 you will need to create new directory on EFIESP in \EFI\Microsoft\Recovery and then create an empty BCD Store in that location.
If you don't add the Surface 2 drivers it will actually boot to the desktop but no devices will work (Pretty much every device requires nvpep up and running first), you can play around with it using a USB keyboard and mouse but its a little pointless at the moment.

Would it be possible to share the build with wider community, so more people can have a shot at getting it up and running? I know I would love to play around with it.

Avonlady said:
Would it be possible to share the build with wider community, so more people can have a shot at getting it up and running? I know I would love to play around with it.
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Please make no mistake on the significance of said leak. There is no other known more-recent ARM 32bit Windows 10 build available on the Internet. The driver hacking community could appreciate a more open leak very much (just look at what it did to the Lumia 950/XL hacking scene around gus33000).. Sites like uup dot rg-adguard dot net fail to list this build.

Avonlady said:
Would it be possible to share the build with wider community, so more people can have a shot at getting it up and running? I know I would love to play around with it.
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Found this on MDL (Mega.nz Download - I can't seem to post full URL's so remove the "_")
Code:
h_t_t_p_s:/_/mega.nz/#!mJ8BSABD!kgdXbJUTKDehFlAMJ9EXswgZs1gYvijeMEZjDNeBfqU

ChumpDrive said:
Found this on MDL (Mega.nz Download - I can't seem to post full URL's so remove the "_")
Code:
h_t_t_p_s:/_/mega.nz/#!mJ8BSABD!kgdXbJUTKDehFlAMJ9EXswgZs1gYvijeMEZjDNeBfqU
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I might try it.

Well, what about compatibility with the Lumia 2520? Do you think it would be possible to install Win10 or at least 10S on that one too? It runs 8.1RT, like the old surface RT...

mivas said:
Well, what about compatibility with the Lumia 2520? Do you think it would be possible to install Win10 or at least 10S on that one too? It runs 8.1RT, like the old surface RT...
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h-t-t-p-s-:-/-/-betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_10_build_15035

lxy3427 said:
h-t-t-p-s-:-/-/-betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_10_build_15035
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Thank you very much for the link.
Sadly, it says that it doesn't support Lumia 2520... It requires a driver...
I think I won't even ask for unreleased protos, like the Lumia 2020 ("Illusionist") etc

Here's a guide how to install this build on Lumia 1520: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ithome.com/0/468/534.htm

Avonlady said:
Here's a guide how to install this build on Lumia 1520: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ithome.com/0/468/534.htm
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Wow! Soo Nice! This makes me want to buy this phone... :good:

Can someone upload these files somewhere else from baidu?

Hello!
This is a guide to install Windows 10 ARM on Surface RT 1/2. https:_/_/_m_.ithome.com/html/469731.htm (remove all _ signs)
What do you think about this?