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I'm hoping someone who has the Ambilight or Lightpack setup on their TV will root a Fire TV and test running Prismatik. Prismatik communicates with lightpack leds to let them know what color to change to match on-screen content. The android beta requires root access to screen grab. The big questions for me are:
1) Will rooting the FireTV disable any of its features (i.e. Amazon Instant Video)?
2) How does the lightpack connect to the FireTV (or OUYA for that matter)? It hooks to the PC via USB.
I imagine that it will work similarly to the way it works with the OUYA but I'd like to see someone else make it work before I buy one. I am an Amazon Prime customer and I love the idea of the Fire TV but I would like to be able to retire the laptop that is running Prismatik before introducing another box.
Fellow Lightpack owner here, seconding the OP. This looks like it has so much potential.
Not really..
If you already have a HTPC( which i guess you do - because lightpack) there's a work around for this..
If this ends up working without any negatives I'm buying this ASAP. Looks great!
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If you already have a HTPC( which i guess you do - because lightpack) there's a work around for this..
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I don't have a HTPC but I've got an old laptop hooked up for that purpose. I am currently running everything through it via the workaround but I'd like to get the laptop out of the equation and just simplify with the Fire TV running XBMC, if it'll work.
I received my FireTV and can't seem to get the Lightpack to be detected. I tried on my Ouya and I am noticing that the popup screen that occurs when Pristmatik detects the Lightpack isn't happening on my FireTV; searching for a work around.
Is it possible to use the fire tv bluetooth gamepad controller to connect to pc as a controller and play pc games using the controller support ?
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Is it possible to use the fire tv bluetooth gamepad controller to connect to pc as a controller and play pc games using the controller support ?
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In theory - yes. It's a bluetooth controller, so unless they did weird protocol stuff like Sony did with the Dualshock 3 it should at least connect. Whether or not your PC sees it as a game controller or not is dependent on whether or not drivers exist for it or if it can use some form of "generic" bluetooth gamepad drivers, if those exist. If there are no drivers then someone will have to write them, though this is not a terribly difficult thing to do, since the drivers just have to read the inputs from the BT stack, then translate them to Xinput calls - pretty simple stuff. Note that I did not say EASY, just simple - an experienced coder/tinkerer could probably make them quickly, but a person lacking knowledge of how to deal with a bluetooth stack or the Direct X interface would have to learn those first.
Do some googling in case someone else has already tackled this subject elsewhere, and if not then consider putting up a bounty for them - as I said, it's quick money for an experienced programmer.
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In theory - yes. It's a bluetooth controller, so unless they did weird protocol stuff like Sony did with the Dualshock 3 it should at least connect. Whether or not your PC sees it as a game controller or not is dependent on whether or not drivers exist for it or if it can use some form of "generic" bluetooth gamepad drivers, if those exist. If there are no drivers then someone will have to write them, though this is not a terribly difficult thing to do, since the drivers just have to read the inputs from the BT stack, then translate them to Xinput calls - pretty simple stuff. Note that I did not say EASY, just simple - an experienced coder/tinkerer could probably make them quickly, but a person lacking knowledge of how to deal with a bluetooth stack or the Direct X interface would have to learn those first.
Do some googling in case someone else has already tackled this subject elsewhere, and if not then consider putting up a bounty for them - as I said, it's quick money for an experienced programmer.
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Well...
The pc does not detect the game controller as anything. Thats the issue. Is there a way around this ?
Thanks for the reply though, quite informative.
so mine was detected as "amazon fire game controller". within windows it is possible to calibrate it. but no game recognized it as a usable controller.
windows 8 pro 64bit
cheers
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Well...
The pc does not detect the game controller as anything. Thats the issue. Is there a way around this ?
Thanks for the reply though, quite informative.
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so mine was detected as "amazon fire game controller". within windows it is possible to calibrate it. but no game recognized it as a usable controller.
windows 8 pro 64bit
cheers
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I wasn't able to get Windows 7 to recognize my AGC. probably because I have some crappy CSR Bluetooth usb receive that I don't even have software for. TBH, I don't think I've ever connected anything to it though, but I don't have a lot of Bluetooth stuff.
seems L2+R2 doesnt work. no game actually recognize this as a legit controller...
any ideas?
try to use xpadder?
mystykally said:
seems L2+R2 doesnt work. no game actually recognize this as a legit controller...
any ideas?
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I can use the controller with a n64 emulator (project64). The emulator recognize the controller and i also can play games. Just L2 and R2 dont work at all.
try x360ce, its an xinput emulator so it should be detected as an xbox360 controller in most games.
Mine is recognised by my PC via a bluetooth USB adapter, but apparently you need some sort of serial code to connect them together which Iam unable to find. Also, the L1 and L2 triggers don't work on any bluetooth platform, except from the Fire TV.
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How did you open the game control calibrator?
What does that mean?
illuminerdi said:
In theory - yes. It's a bluetooth controller, so unless they did weird protocol stuff like Sony did with the Dualshock 3 it should at least connect. Whether or not your PC sees it as a game controller or not is dependent on whether or not drivers exist for it or if it can use some form of "generic" bluetooth gamepad drivers, if those exist. If there are no drivers then someone will have to write them, though this is not a terribly difficult thing to do, since the drivers just have to read the inputs from the BT stack, then translate them to Xinput calls - pretty simple stuff. Note that I did not say EASY, just simple - an experienced coder/tinkerer could probably make them quickly, but a person lacking knowledge of how to deal with a bluetooth stack or the Direct X interface would have to learn those first.
Do some googling in case someone else has already tackled this subject elsewhere, and if not then consider putting up a bounty for them - as I said, it's quick money for an experienced programmer.
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So can I pair the fire tv controller with my pc using bluetooth or do I need a receiver like with Xbox 360.
Work around for Fire TV Game controller to PC.
You will need the following Apps.
You will also require your phone and Fire TV to be on the same network as your PC.
1, mouse toggle for fire TV ( or any wireless mouse ) (instruction on google play)
2, Droidjoy free (droidjoy pro if you want L2 R2), (instruction on google play)
3, Octopus ( it's on google play, allows overlay controls for droudjoy/all touch games ) (instruction on google play)
4, Easy fire tools ( Also on google play ).
Firstly install Droidjoy on your phone and follow their instructions and YouTube video on how to connect and make your PC think it's a Xbox controller. Once connected try your game of choice and see if you like ( I found Tomb Raider: Underworld has minimal lag time (ms) plays great but Prince of Persia: The forgotten Sands is slightly more but still highly playable. If your happy move to next step.
Step 1
Install all the other apps on your phone and use the Fire TV Tools app to push/install them to your Fire Tv.
Step 2
Open mouse toggle and start the app.
Step 3
Open the octopus app and choose droidjoy app to open. Then select customize, then select Template Standard.
Step 4
Use mouse toggle in mouse mode to click on the octopus icon and overlay the buttons on the Droidjoy App. The back button can be used here but will become redundant for going back on the fire TV ( you will have to use the home button to exit the app ). Recommend setting the back button after all the following steps are done.
Step 5
Close the app by pressing the home button if you have programmed the back button, now reopen Octopus app and select Droudjoy, goto setting and click auto connect to server, press back ( or use mouse toggle in mouse mode ) now click connect you will have to use mouse toggle to click on your PC Server for the first time. Once connected select your template in the game pad section.
Step 6
Try the game controller on your PC it should work perfectly, you are now using your Fire TV as a relay to your PC, some lagging can be caused by having your Bluetooth set to on on your PC.
If you haven't already assign the back button on octopus and if need push Droidjoy pro to you Fire TV if your happy and need L2 & R2.
Good Luck and fun gaming.
If you havnt brought a Fire TV game controller yet Don't, purchase a Xbox one controller v2 ( your PC will need Bluetooth or a separate bluetooth dongle)
Has anybody else had any luck pairing a PS4 controller with the Amazon Fire TV Stick? I saw that with the Amazon Fire TV you hold share and power, and you can then pair them. On the Stick everything seems to go about the same, except then it says 'Unable to pair' when you select Wireless Controller.
Hey i'm having the same problem. I don't have the Fire TV but have read something similar to what you said. If you figure out a method plz let me know.
Same here
Having the same issue here. Can't seem to figure it out;
Any updates guys?
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Any updates guys?
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I also tried with the settings apk. My problem was that the controller would not even show up in the Settings.apk Bluetooth menu. On the other hand, it showed up in the Bluetooth controllers options but did not connect.
Other people have had success connecting the Ouya controller thus I think its not that they don't want ANY 3rd party controllers, its just that the Bluetooth driver and/or hardware they're using is different than the Fire TV. Which is really sad because the ONLY reason I bought the Fire TV stick was because I read PS4 controller works out of the box with FireTV.
Same issue for me and I'm really bummed. Any other things to try besides the settings.apk? I have a feeling this is a cut cost hardware issue.
same issue
I have just spoken with amazon and according to them the PS4 controller is not compatible. I too saw an youtube video where someone was able to pair it, if anyone has a solution to this issue please let me know, I really don't want to wait for the playpad pro that is optimazied for amazon since its back ordered
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
BOBdotEXE said:
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
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(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
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Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
binary01 said:
Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
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I don't believe so, the ds4 acts as a generic bluetooth controller,
the ds3/sixaxis dose not.
but feel free to try, I do not have any with me at the time, so I can not check.
have there been any updates to this? the Settings.apk is not working for me, it closes out when I attempt attach a bluetooth controller. I am trying to connect my ps4 controller through bluetooth for a lag free experience. So far after connecting it I get a ton of lag on the controller.
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
MrWolfman said:
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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my lag isnt that bad at all tbh, i can play sonic 1 no problems, i can play nintendo emulator no problems, i think the lag may be due to the distance from the stick to the controller, my distance is about 2 metres from the stick maybe just over, if you live in a BIG house with over 5 metre distance then yes there would obviously be lag
If you need an alternative controller I have a thread for that Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
I haven't managed to get the ds4 paired via Bluetooth as yet but whilst trying I connected it to a powered usb hub which is connected to the stick which is rooted and has OTG enabled.
It worked immediately wired.
As soon as I pulled the cable though the stick rebooted. But if your desperate, rooted and have an OTG cable you can connect your ds4 to you fire stick.
FYI My old wired xbox 360 (afterglow) didn't work when that was connected.
Hello all. Sorry to bump this ancient thread but its the first google result when looking for help. So i had problems using my ps4 controller on my firetv myself as it appears amazon has cut support for game controllers on firetv. Lucky enough there is an easy fix.
Simply download and install Easy Fire Tools onto a smartphone.
Easy Fire Tools - Apps on Google Play
Install your favorite apps on FireTv and other android devices
play.google.com
Then download and install Bluetooth Pair
Bluetooth Pair - Apps on Google Play
Bluetooth pairing - automated. Simply turn on Bluetooth and connect!
play.google.com
Then just sideload Bluetooth Pair app to firetv and use it to connect to game controller.
This method works to where you dont need to pair the remote every time you want to use with firetv. Simply turn on and it will connect.
Cheers!
I'm having the same issue. Although I do not own a Fire TV, I have read something that sounds similar to what you have described. Please let me know if you come up with a solution.
Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
Just get both lol. That's what I did
Fire stick is closer to a tablet than anything
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Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
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The way I see it, AFSTV is a tablet used for streaming. Chromecast needs more apps and a native browser; maybe chromecast II will be able to compete in the same league (if it ever shows up).
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Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
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4. Most US FTV's from Amazon, Staples, BestBuy, Radio Shack can still be rooted.
depakjan said:
Chromecast advantages
1. Cast anything from PC , especially streaming videos from browser tab.
2. Cast entire desktop, but mostly useless if you do not have proper internet connection.
Fire Tv advantages
1. Sideloading any android app
2. can work independently
Will fire tv ever get casting support for windows ? amazon cast plugin or something ... if it gets that i will easily ditch chromecast
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I have 2 of each, but hands down the Fire Stick is a better device with may more uses.
FS has MUCH MUCH(get the idea) better wifi.
The one thing I've found that the CC is better at is taking on a trip since you don't need the remote to get it connected on a new wifi. FS you MUST have remote so far as I can figure out.
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I have 2 of each, but hands down the Fire Stick is a better device with may more uses.
FS has MUCH MUCH(get the idea) better wifi.
The one thing I've found that the CC is better at is taking on a trip since you don't need the remote to get it connected on a new wifi. FS you MUST have remote so far as I can figure out.
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As far as taking it on a trip, if you stay in a hotel that requires you to accept the terms of service through a browser good luck connecting the chromecast.
I have both, and I never use my Chromecast. The only reason I could think of why I would use it is for my 2 movies in Google Play... The Fire Stick is just better in every way.
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As far as taking it on a trip, if you stay in a hotel that requires you to accept the terms of service through a browser good luck connecting the chromecast.
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yes neither works perfectly traveling, but having to bring remote just to get it to connect to phone sucks. The only thing chromecast did right was the private wifi setup with devices.
Both are good I'm leaning more to aftv just has more features.. But I also have chromecast connected as well it's good to have back up to send media to the tv with my phone
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As far as taking it on a trip, if you stay in a hotel that requires you to accept the terms of service through a browser good luck connecting the chromecast.
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Exactly. Although having just experienced this, you'll need to sideload a browser and some mouse mode (controller, mouse, phone mouse,etc) to actually navigate and accept terms.
What I do is tether to my phone and cast predownloaded movies using All cast.
Chromecast is great for basic stuff and used with a tablet. When using my phone, everything gets paused and occasionally locks up when getting calls and messages on my phone.
Fire TV stick is also a pretty good emulator player for retro gaming on the go.
Unless you need to stick with the small form factor or the budget doesn't allow, the correct answer if you can't decide between the two is to get a Nexus Player. If you are not in a hurry, wait until spring when I'm sure the market will be flooded with cheap Chinese Android TV boxes (Android TV version of Android, not just Android on a stick). Essentially the same as FireTV, but with Chromecast functionality built in.
If I had to choose between a Chomecast or AFTV stick I'd take AFTV stick every time.
Comes Down to Apps
You should research the App you know you want to use. I really just want a Chrome cast with a physical remote. I was excited when I grabbed a FireTV stick for $25. I was not excited that the Showtime Anytime app doesn't support on Dish on FireStickTV but does on Chrome cast?
I would tell you make a list of the apps you really want and see what platform has them.
thats what i did too
No brainer.. AFTV.
Maybe its just me, but i really dont have the urge to "cast" everything from various devices. A nice standalone box that can connect to networked drives on its own while having native streaming capability nicely beats a simple "casting" box...
If you have a miracast compatible computer, you can use that with the firetv.
Youtube on chromecast is good in "social" settings. Friends can queue up videos (eg. songs) to be played.
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If you have a miracast compatible computer, you can use that with the firetv.
Youtube on chromecast is good in "social" settings. Friends can queue up videos (eg. songs) to be played.
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I haven't seen 1 person post that Miracast works from a PC to the Fire TV.
See this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/miracast-t2954237/
After using both for a few weeks apiece, the fire stick with xbmc and a remote >>>>>>>>>>>> the chromecast.
It gets tiresome having to keep turning my phone etc and having some files need transcoding with the chromecast. The stick, since they updated the firmware and fixed the video quality problems, is almost perfect and I love that remote
The only thing chromecast has over the fire tv is the ease of use with the phone with the little cast button but I can live without that
As soon as the fire sticks go on sale again, I'm picking up another 3!
The AFS seems to be a more flexible platform. It's essentially a Android Stick computer. Will be even better when someone figures out how to root it. For the most part you can sideload the same working apps that work on other Android devices. That's pretty useful.
The Chromecast seems to be more of a one trick pony. The casting feature is interesting but why would you not want to just run apps directly to control it?
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I have both.
I bought the Chromecast last year. The biggest use I got out of it was binge watching to catch up on Game of Thrones via HBO Go app. Video was definitely grainy, lower quality than the On-Demand HD from Comcast. Since then, I've rarely used it. Having to start everything via the phone or pad, then "casting" feels clunky. Casting videos/movies from my PC browser was choppy at best.
The Fire TV Stick is pretty smooth. I like having the physical remote and looking at the TV when I do things (i.e. not having to use/look at the phone). YouTube works (although I'm not able to play Purchases). Plex works well, as does SPMC (XBMC fork). NBC Live Extra app seems to work ok, but I'll get a better feel for that tonight watching football. HBO Go isn't officially available for the FireTV STICK yet. On my Fire TV (box) I am disappointed that HBO Go and Showtime Go (I would be there are some other apps too) do not have the ability to sign in for Comcast/Xfinity customers like the apps on iOs and Android do. I do realize that is a COMCAST limit, but it still stinks.
As @alton987 said earlier, it important to know the apps you want to use, and what is available on a particular device.
I bought a Fire TV Stick the day before Thanksgiving at Best Buy for $24.99. I bought it primarily for Amazon Prime.
So far, it's been working perfectly. Along with Prime movies and tv, I'm also using Prime music, Netflix, Crackle and AllCast. All work perfectly except for Netflix. On Netflix, video freezes about 10-15 minutes before the end of the movie, audio continues. I have to back out and then resume. Only takes a few seconds but it's annoying. It's the only app that's giving me a problem.
I also sideloaded BS Player and ES File Explorer. I wanted to use them for playing movies stored on my PC. Both are working just fine. I have mine connected to my A/V receiver (Yamaha). Picture quality is excellent, as is audio through my system.
I'm VERY pleased with the stick, and will buy another one for a second tv.
I have no experience with the Chromecast so I can't comment on it.
But the Fire tv stick is, for me, a no brainer if you subscribe to Amazon Prime. Terrific add-on to my system.
Anyway to root Amazon fire TV 2 (2016) with Fire OS 5.2.2.0 , actually I want to use my ps3 controller and erase some system apps , but this new version cant be rooted with KingRoot like the others
Madness_logic said:
Anyway to root Amazon fire TV 2 (2016) with Fire OS 5.2.2.0 , actually I want to use my ps3 controller and erase some system apps , but this new version cant be rooted with KingRoot like the others
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You cant root it yet and even if you did and were wanting to pair a ps3 controller wirelessly you (as far as im aware and have tried alot of ways) cant connect it (six axis won't work with aftv2).
I was under the impression that 5.2.1.1 was the most up-to-date FireOS for the FireTV2, and that 5.2.2.0 was just the stock Firmware for the FireStick2.
That aside...
I'm not sure what the bottleneck with the Dualshock 3 actually is. If it's the FireTVs' Bluetooth, Lollipop, or what. But if there is a way to use it o. The FireTV2, then that way is lost on me.
I have no idea if it's true or not, but supposedly the Dualshock 4, would work. But, by that token, it would cost the same as an Amazon Controller, so why even bother? ��
Not that it is related but is there anyway to change how the audio search results come up on fire tv2 like on nvidia or roku where it gives you multiple options and not the stupid amazon only results? I thought maybe this can be achieved by root or something.
Thanks
I can only suspect that, that is hidden deep within the FireOS, and would probably require something akin to CyanogenMod to have fixed.
Something that could at least in theory happen on the AFTV1 (Qualcomm) Box, since Qualcomm are actually pretty decent about releasing Code. MediaTek (AFTV2), however... Not so much.
At this point I would hold more hope of just getting a Dualshock 3 working on the AFTV2, then to try and, replace Echo (Or whatever Amazon wish to call their Voice Search), with Ok Google Now. Or MicroSofts Cortana. Which AFAIK might also have an Android version.
Dualshock 3 uses a non-standard implementation of the Bluetooth spec, and also requires special drivers/dongle for the PC. Dualshock 4 has a bog-standard Bluetooth mode (which needs to be toggled, mind you), and so is much easier to use. For getting DS3 working, you need specialized drivers both on Android and on the PC.
Honestly, the Ds4 gamepad is worth it - its a lot better than any other controllers (inc the terrible XB1 ones, well thats a matter of opinion i guess) and is even better than using it on the PS4, as you can actually switch off the damn light